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Friday, March 10, 2017

Polling suggests that increase in Obamacare support nearly entirely from Democrats...



In other words, this bill is no more popular among Republicans than it has ever been. In fact, 90% of Trump voters have an unfavorable opinion of the law, while 90% of the Hillary voters now have a favorable view of the law.

This has nothing to do with any real change in the law as all the news regarding the law has continued to be bad. Even the most ardent supporters are starting to realize that the exchanges are headed for the dreaded "death spiral" if something isn't done. By next year large parts of the country will have zero insurers providing health care plans on the exchanges. Many other parts will continue to see only one single choice. Anyone suggesting that having zero or only one insurer competing on the exchange is not the result of the "death spiral" is being little more than dishonest.

The reality remains that the exchanges are basically a place where the Government subsidized both the seller and the buyer, and still nobody is happy. The sellers loose money, and the buyer receive a bad product. These exchanges were supposed to be an improvement over a system where 95% or more of insured were completely happy, and the Government had nothing to do with it.

This is nothing more than another knee jerk reaction by Democrats, who are suddenly upset that they lost another election and that all of these losses piling up will actually have real governing consequences. There is really fundamentally no "rational" reason to have changed your mind about the law. Unless you were a previous supporter who now opposes it.

Perhaps the GOP would have been wise to wait another year or so to watch the exchanges crumble even more before coming up with proposals to repeal and replace. While it may have caused unrest with many of the most vocal of Trump voters, it probably would make for more widespread support.

102 comments:

Roger Amick said...

Thank you President Barack Obama.

The pace of job creation remained robust in February as low unemployment drove up wages, evidence of continued health in the U.S. labor market that likely clears the way for the Federal Reserve to raise short-term interest rates next week.

Nonfarm payrolls rose by a seasonally adjusted 235,000 in February from the prior month, the Labor Department said Friday, and the unemployment rate ticked down to 4.7% as both workforce participation and employment rose. Economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal had expected 197,000 new jobs and a jobless rate of 4.7% in February.

The strong hiring “will erase any lingering doubts that the Fed might not hike interest rates next week,” said Paul Ashworth, chief U.S. economist at Capital Economics, in a note to clients.


The unusually warm winter may have boosted recent job gains; the weather-sensitive construction sector saw robust hiring the past two months. But more broadly, analysts see the potential for rising optimism to drive stronger economic growth.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-added-235-000-jobs-in-february-unemployment-rate-4-7-1489152730

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard.

Loretta Russo said...

"Perhaps the GOP would have been wise to wait another year or so to watch the exchanges crumble even more before coming up with proposals to repeal and replace."

That's exactly what Republicans should have done. We're always saving people who don't want to be saved.

Let it crumble. Let Pelosi suck on it.

Commonsense said...

Roger's nothing if not predictable.

The only question is whether he was going the mention the good news about the Trump recovery at all.

And if he did it was a forgone conclusion that he was somehow going to find a way to give Obama credit.

Loretta Russo said...

The drunkard never fails to disappoint.

Ch's original post about jobs...

"Wednesday, March 8, 2017
298,000 new jobs"

He's trolling AND spamming.

rrb said...

But more broadly, analysts see the potential for rising optimism to drive stronger economic growth.
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after 8 miserable years of a two-bit ACORN hack, how could americans NOT be optimistic?

only a delusional alcoholic could credit 0linsky with the latest job numbers.



Roger Amick said...

In January, Donald Trump’s first act as President was to order government agencies to avoid implementing, as much as is legally possible, what has become known as Obamacare.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/06/trumpcare-vs-obamacare

But Obamacare, it turns out, has done a lot of good. It guarantees that people with preëxisting health conditions cannot be rejected by insurers or charged more than others. It has reduced the number of uninsured people by twenty million. It has increased access to primary care, specialty care, surgery, medicines, and treatment for chronic conditions. Patients are less likely to skip needed care because of the cost. As a result, according to studies conducted at Harvard, the A.C.A. is saving tens of thousands of lives each year.


The ACA "ObamaCare" has increased access to primary care, specialty care, surgery, medicines, and treatment for chronic conditions.Patients are less likely to skip needed care because of the cost. As a result, according to studies conducted at Harvard, the A.C.A. is saving tens of thousands of lives each year.

It was Obamacare’s dramatic expansion of Medicaid, in participating states, to all Americans living near the official poverty line that produced the largest reductions in the uninsured.

This is an ideological position, not necessarily superior insurance coverage. Not only that, some Republican governments will be very reluctant to provide state health insurance plans, and are not necessarily going to keep the coverage of existing conditions and the ability to keep children up to the age of 26.

Most of the various sources, not always left wing sites, the AMA and AMA and most hospital associations are opposed to this plan. The underlying reason for this is to get rid of any or all entitlements. The numbers will be passed down to the states and the federal funding is far under the necessary funds to provide coverage to the older populations that have by nature, higher costs.

The Republicans claim that their plan will reduce the obligations of small businesses.
The net result of this will be the loss of insurance up to 10 million who will lose their insurance coverage. The for profit insurance companies are not going to be able to charge what they want, or get preexisting conditions or for their children. It will price millions out of the market, because the tax credits will in no way cover these programs.

The fact that people have coverage under Obama Care and those who will lose their coverage are not going to continue to support Trump Care. most of them who will lose insurance voted for Trump. They won't be thrilled in 2018 elections if this pile of trash passes.

More from he New Yorker. That shows what will ha[[em to millions of Americans that you don't seem to care about, because the Magic (R) is there

Roger Amick said...

A requirement for people to maintain “continuous coverage”—to take an example supported by the new Secretary of Health and Human Services, Tom Price, and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan—would mean that people who lose their insurance temporarily, because they, say, change jobs or suffer a financial setback, would also lose their preëxisting-condition protections. For these people and for others left behind, Price and Ryan advocate state-run “high-risk pools.” But, in the thirty-five states that offered high-risk pools to the uninsurable before the A.C.A., inadequate funding delivered terrible coverage, with extremely high premiums and deductibles, and annual limits as low as seventy-five thousand dollars. Hardly anyone signed up.

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KD said...

Roger's nothing if not predictable.

The only question is whether he was going the mention the good news about the Trump recovery at all.

And if he did it was a forgone conclusion that he was somehow going to find a way to give Obama credit. "

Roger Krugman acts as if his past post from Nov 8th and the morning of the 9th do not exist.

Ole Rog was predicting with great confidence that the Economy and US Stocks were going to tank and the new recession was on its' way.


We love Ole Rog because he is so economically retarded.

He has been that way since BUSH SOARS

rrb said...

This is nothing more than another knee jerk reaction by Democrats, who are suddenly upset that they lost another election and that all of these losses piling up will actually have real governing consequences.
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and a completely dishonest knee-jerk at that. no rational, sane, clear thinking individual can suddenly approve of the ACA with a straight face knowing what we now know. the support is a LIE in yet another lame and transparent attempt to fuck with trump.

Roger Amick said...

Governance is forcing Republicans to confront the reality that repeal without replacement is untenable. In a stalemate, Congress would likely need to delay repeal and, to reassure skittish insurers, focus on small-scale repairs, such as affirming that subsidies will continue to be funded, and either enforcing the existing mandate or revising it so that more young and healthy people sign on. (For instance, healthy people could be charged an extra ten per cent on premiums if they forgo insurance for a year, the same as the penalty for elderly people who refuse Medicare Part B.) In addition, the states that sat out the Medicaid expansion in order to thwart President Obama would be free to join in under a Republican Administration, as many would like to. “Insurance for everybody,” Trump has vowed. A Trumpcare compromise could yet bring us a step closer to it


A requirement for people to maintain “continuous coverage”—to take an example supported by the new Secretary of Health and Human Services, Tom Price, and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan—would mean that people who lose their insurance temporarily, because they, say, change jobs or suffer a financial setback, would also lose their preëxisting-condition protections. For these people and for others left behind, Price and Ryan advocate state-run “high-risk pools.” But, in the thirty-five states that offered high-risk pools to the uninsurable before the A.C.A., inadequate funding delivered terrible coverage, with extremely high premiums and deductibles, and annual limits as low as seventy-five thousand dollars. Hardly anyone signed up.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard.

Roger Amick said...

Governance is forcing Republicans to confront the reality that repeal without replacement is untenable. In a stalemate, Congress would likely need to delay repeal and, to reassure skittish insurers, focus on small-scale repairs, such as affirming that subsidies will continue to be funded, and either enforcing the existing mandate or revising it so that more young and healthy people sign on. (For instance, healthy people could be charged an extra ten per cent on premiums if they forgo insurance for a year, the same as the penalty for elderly people who refuse Medicare Part B.) In addition, the states that sat out the Medicaid expansion in order to thwart President Obama would be free to join in under a Republican Administration, as many would like to. “Insurance for everybody,” Trump has vowed. A Trumpcare compromise could yet bring us a step closer to it.

But legislators have no time to waste. Insurers must decide by April whether to offer a plan for the exchanges in 2018, and at what price. That requires certainty about the future. Pitchforks have their uses, but crafting health-care policy calls for more delicate instruments. The basic functioning of the health-care system is at stake. So are American lives.

I don't know if this will pass. Given the depth of the divisions within the Republican party may stop it. The fact that Trump's weak approval makes it difficult for him to push the right wing, tea party types to go along. The Gallup daily has him at 42%, where it's been for his entire time in office.

rrb said...



hey rog,

you forgot the link:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/06/trumpcare-vs-obamacare

damn shame too, considering you left out the money quote:

Republicans claim that the program is in a death spiral. It isn’t; enrollment has held constant.



huh. so all we need to do is increase enrollment to keep the shitpile from collapsing?

thank you captain obvious.




rrb said...



"Governance is forcing Republicans to confront the reality that repeal without replacement is untenable."

https://www.facebook.com/newyorker/posts/10154511220823869

Roger Amick said...

As usual, instead of addressing the point I made, insults are all you are can handle.

I did my own comments that showed the weakness and danger to millions of Americans will lose their insurance, that Mr Trump said that he was going to get all of us covered, the details show that this law does not meet his promises. He hasn't kept one of them and he will probably not meet any of them.

rrb said...




pure fucking genius:


"(For instance, healthy people could be charged an extra ten per cent on premiums if they forgo insurance for a year, the same as the penalty for elderly people who refuse Medicare Part B.) "

so the answer is to prick those who already can't afford their deductibles and premiums and co-pays ANOTHER 10% and everything will be fine.



the dumb fuck who wrote this article my be a buddy of gruber.

Roger Amick said...

racist rodent bastard, that line was from the New Your Post link.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/06/trumpcare-vs-obamacare

Governance is forcing Republicans to confront the reality that repeal without replacement is untenable.

See it for yourself.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard

Roger Amick said...

Let me guess. Hot Air to get your quote.

Maybe he genius who told the President that the Obama administration wiretapped his campaign.

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...
As usual, instead of addressing the point I made, insults are all you are can handle.
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you didn't make a point. you posted some hackery from the new yorker.


look rog, you can polish this fucking turd until the cows come home, but at the end of the day you rely on one significant and unavoidable scenario to pay for this clusterfuck -

you need the young and healthy to pick up the tab for the sick and older. that's socialism straight up. and in the process, you so distort what used to be a free market, the result is people being saddled with insurance they neither want nor need, access to doctors and hospitals rationed and limited, and what used to be affordable insurance is now so unaffordable it's consuming an inordinate percentage of household incomes. folks who used to be able to upgrade the family car of take a disney vacation now have to forgo all that just some some government hacks can make themselves feel better. so you've had a negative impact on the greater economy by seizing what used to be disposable income.

nice job, asshole.

if government could competently administer a health care system our veterans would be in excellent health, and would wait minutes to hours instead of weeks to months for care. i wouldn't be seeing pictures of veterans collapsing on waiting room floors and i wouldn't be reading reports of veterans blowing their fucking brains out in VA hospital parking lots.

stop using new entitlement schemes funded by my tax dollars to buy votes. go get votes the old-fashioned way - EARN THEM.

Roger Amick said...

I read several main steam anti-American people sites, and the Post piece, which is accurate, despite your lies, as easy to read and I put in my own comments on what is going on. It is D.O.A.

You ignore that your President charged his predecessor with a felony. That is a crime, if it's untrue and Trump could spend 10 years in federal prison.

rrb said...

I did my own comments that showed the weakness and danger to millions of Americans will lose their insurance
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well then you've proven you're an idiot.

70% of those "millions of americans" are on the medicaid plan they were eligible for all along in the fucking first place.

rrb said...



new yorker vs. ny post, alky.

learn the difference.

Roger Amick said...

Your post is unreadable nonsense and is at the grade school level.

I could write better than you can when I was n 5th grade, and by 7th grade I was reading and writing at college level.

spouting "socialism" is non sense.

Grow up.

rrb said...

You ignore that your President charged his predecessor with a felony. That is a crime, if it's untrue and Trump could spend 10 years in federal prison.
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0linsky has been charged by trump with a felony?

really? officially charged? officially and LEGALLY charged?

no shit?

well link us up, gin blossom. this, i gotta read.

Roger Amick said...

Submit this to your sixth grade teacher and ask him or her what grade would you get. My guess is an F.

look rog, you can polish this fucking turd until the cows come home, but at the end of the day you rely on one significant and unavoidable scenario to pay for this clusterfuck -

you need the young and healthy to pick up the tab for the sick and older. that's socialism straight up. and in the process, you so distort what used to be a free market, the result is people being saddled with insurance they neither want nor need, access to doctors and hospitals rationed and limited, and what used to be affordable insurance is now so unaffordable it's consuming an inordinate percentage of household incomes. folks who used to be able to upgrade the family car of take a disney vacation now have to forgo all that just some some government hacks can make themselves feel better. so you've had a negative impact on the greater economy by seizing what used to be disposable income.

nice job, asshole.

Ridiculous nonsense and a hate filled diatribe. Look up diatribe, it's far above you level.

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...
Your post is unreadable nonsense and is at the grade school level.

I could write better than you can when I was n 5th grade, and by 7th grade I was reading and writing at college level.
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yeah, you keep bragging about that ability. and when you do show up here CH cleans your clock and i sweep up the mess. but hey, if you've got some "legend in your own mind" thing working then carry on. considering your shitpile of a life, a little diversion into fantasy land helps a failure like you make it through each day.

oh, and the fact that you did not refute a single point in my post?

duly noted, asshole.

rrb said...



oh, so now you've been reduced to copying and pasting MY posts?


LOL.

at this rate you'll be making opie look like a fucking genius by nightfall.

rrb said...



hey rog,

still waiting for a summary of those charges trump has brought against 0linsky.

kevin drum must've posted about them on mommy jones by now. i mean, the 'smoking gun' might even have a mug shot of 0linsky on their site at this point. was skeets actually arrested, or was it handled quietly considering his stature as an ex prez?

link us up, chief.

Roger Amick said...

To make a criminal case is almost impossible.

Suing for liable is more possible, but again very difficult to make a case.

Too bad. so he looks foolish,but not criminal.

Roger Amick said...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/analysis-does-obama-have-grounds-sue-trump-libel-n729376

I didn't look at Drum yet. He's on my bookmarks.

Generally I make specific searches on Google.

Roger Amick said...

Nurses on healthcare’s front lines are the latest to join the parade of medical care providers opposing the Republican-led U.S. House of Representatives’ American Health Care Act, also known as Trumpcare.

The American Nurses Association joined a growing number of provider groups including the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association and the American Academy of Family Physicians attacking the House bill for its lack of coverage, financial details and transparency.

TrumpCare is D.O.A.

rrb said...



Analysis: Does Obama Have Grounds to Sue Trump for Libel?

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wait a minute, alky.

you said, and i quote:

"You ignore that your President charged his predecessor with a felony."

so where are those charges?

i'm not interested in some MSDNC pablum about whether trump hurt 0linsky's widdle feewings.

show us the record of the arrest and corresponding charges. or just shut the fuck up. your call.



and btw asshat, how are you guys coming along with those "charges" that trump colluded with the russians to "hack and steal the election?"

maybe trump has a slander case against granny the liar, 0linsky, podesta, wasserman schulttz, bernie, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the WaPo, the ny times...

rrb said...

TrumpCare is D.O.A.
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BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!

BOOM!!!!!!!111!!!

DEVASTATION!!!!!!!11!!!!1!

KD, President Trump Ends Drought in CA and Makes People Younger said...

63.0 rise in the US Labor Participation Rate in February, 2017

That is a big number, partly because the failed predictor of everything said the number had gone down under Obama, because of American getting older and retiring, and yet. Here the number is going up .

Did the USA all of a sudden under Trump get Younger and want to work?

How do you explain that rise HB?

Enlighten us.

Roger Amick said...

Every doctor's association is coming out against TrumpCare. The ACA provided coverage for 20 million, mostly on Medicade. The new plan will cut that, the states would have to pay for the coverage and they would ot have the money to cover about 10 million. "Hurry up and die" is your motto Jimmy.

KD, RRB puts Roger the Dogger on the clock said...

wait a minute, alky.

you said, and i quote:

"You ignore that your President charged his predecessor with a felony."

so where are those charges?" RRB


This should be so good. I am going to feed the feedlot calves and chickens, collect 2 dozen eggs as they are more productive under President Trump and yes they do lay those eggs, they don't have others doing it for them like President Fake Ingine Warren/Obama believe.

Roger Amick said...

The bill as is, will never get passed in the Senate. And more and more house members, in the states that will not be able to cover those dropped by Medicade. The Doctors group said that between 20% to 30% of their patients will not be able to afford coverage. They feel the same way with Planned Parenthood. Uninsured women have a very high rate of death from breast cancer.

Because we have medicare, my wife had a mammography provided by Kaiser Permanente every six months was diagnosed with a very early cancer in her right breast. She had day surgery and four weeks of radiation therapy at NO cost, gave her a 95% chance of it is stopped. You would sentence millions of women over 60 to death because you don't have an ounce of humanity. We have the Kaiser Permanente advanced coverage that costs us about $3,200 per year. We make more than most retirees. The max pay out is $4,4000. It saved her life.

Loretta Russo said...

Horseshit, drunkard.

Loretta Russo said...

" btw asshat, how are you guys coming along with those "charges" that trump colluded with the russians to "hack and steal the election?"

maybe trump has a slander case against granny the liar, 0linsky, podesta, wasserman schulttz, bernie, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the WaPo, the ny times..."

Ouch.

Loretta Russo said...

Planned parenthood doesn't do mammograms, drunkard.

KD said...

Because we have medicare, my wife had a mammography provided by Kaiser Permanente every six months was diagnosed with a very early cancer in her right breast. She had day surgery and four weeks of radiation therapy at NO cost, gave her a 95% chance of it is stopped. You would sentence millions of women over 60 to death because you don't have an ounce of humanity. We have the Kaiser Permanente advanced coverage that costs us about $3,200 per year. We make more than most retirees. The max pay out is $4,4000. It saved her life. "

This is a great summary of all that is wrong with the financial mind of Broke HB. '
Medicare, you paid in over $250,000 dollars over your life time and your wife then and now.
I do hope you are right about one thing HB, I hope TrumpCare fails.

From the facts we know now, I want and have asked my US Senator and US House Rep to vote against it and keep voting against it.

Until Obamacare collapses and it will.

KD, Facts win over HB's kind every time said...

Since HB said he makes so much more then the rest of us, you will have to adjust these numbers up , by A LOT, remember, HB thinks :

According to the institute's data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage — $44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into Social Security and Medicare and can be expected to take out $966,000 in benefits.Feb 1, 2013


www.politifact.com/truth-o.../medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/

"She had day surgery and four weeks of radiation therapy at NO cost"

Well, that why we love our Financial Retard, he thinks things are free after they as a couple paid in

caliphate4vr said...

Uninsured women have a very high rate of death from breast cancer.

still going to this old saw? Take this one o heart

rrb said...



"Step One: Repeal Obamacare. Put a stake through its heart and leave its head on a pike. So maybe the Democrats won’t vote for a replacement. Good. They’re the party of trough-gorging welfare cheats, not us. It’s their constituents who want the free stuff – yours are the sheep these bums shear. No Obamacare replacement is their problem. See how long the Dems can play the obstruction game with their freeloading voters screaming “Gimme!”

Step Two: Stop trying to plan everything. We can do it ourselves. Lift the regulations and let us buy whatever coverage we want from whatever state we want. Operate under the general principle that every American adult is expected to pay for his own healthcare. Most importantly, stop trying to ameliorate the consequences of bad decisions. If you want to have fewer bad decisions, the very best way to achieve that lofty goal is to let bad things happen to stupid people.

Done. There’s your health care reform."

--Kurt Schlichter

opie said...


still going to this old saw? Take this one o heart

Still just being stupid? Paul??? Maybe you can link us up to prove that statement wrong instead of just saying it is. Chuckle.

Cue some more brilliance from Ga.

KD, End the Nanny State, let them move to CA Free Health care For ALL said...

Exactly, no fucking around, get it done, or do nothing.

KD, WOW DOW said...

"Maybe you can link us up"

Uninsured women have a very high rate of death from breast cancer." HB
HB made the statement, ok we will wait for HB to link us up.

How are you investments doing?

opie said...

How many times has loretta used the word spam on this thread? Very impressive, troll. Idiot

KD said...

Why does HB and others believe it is my financial duty to provide Health Insurance to others (outside of my family) ?

How many do you pay for HB, I mean why not be the one to blaze the trail and do what you want of others.

Commonsense said...

How many times has loretta used the word spam on this thread?

About as many times you have spam this thread.

caliphate4vr said...

?? Maybe you can link us up to prove that statement wrong instead of just saying it is. Chuckle.


Here ya go fatty

SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS
High socioeconomic status (SES) is most often defined by high income and/or high education level.

High SES has been linked to an increased risk of breast cancer [238-245].

This increased risk is not due to the higher SES (higher income and/or higher education level) itself, but rather to differences in risk factors found in women of different education and income levels [238-245].

For example, compared to women of lower SES, women of higher SES are more likely to:

Drink alcohol
Have fewer children
Have their first child at a later age
Use birth control pills
Use menopausal hormone therapy (postmenopausal hormones)

Each of these factors increases the risk of breast cancer [238-245].


LMAO and again fatty does Roger need you to be his protector? Or is this just you waddling in wanting attention?

Commonsense said...

Every doctor's association is coming out against TrumpCare.

You mean every association that just happen to support Obamacare.

I don't know who they are actually representing. Certainly not any of the doctors I go to.

To a man (and in one case a women) they hate Obamacare. They do more paperwork for less reimbursement than commercial insurance.

Right now my area has five hospitals but only one that accepts medicaid patients. Less than half the local providers accept medicaid patients.

That's HB's dream for the future of healthcare. It's a nightmare foe everybody else.

Commonsense said...

BTW HB's insurance plan is a Medicare plus plan. If Obamacare was repealed tomorrow it would not affect him.

Think we should tell him? Or let him stew in his own fears.

opie said...

Here ya go fatty

Proves nothing other than your bias against blacks. All true, didn't answer the question, did it now drunkard????? Nice try, though. Chuckle.

opie said...

About as many times you have spam this thread

Good one, menstral child. You are just too quick for a reply.

caliphate4vr said...

Fatty you are very retarded. I just proved a low socioeconomic status has no bearing on breast cancer as the liver claimed. How you managed to put race in that, is beyond me. Actually it's not, when a rightie blows up a stupid lefties talking point the race card is all you have.

But you're nothing but a fucking stupid troll, it's all you have

I'll be out living this weekend, you hang around and troll, it's quite a pathetic existence you have

opie said...

For the retards of the right, especially pauline.

15 Million Fewer People Might Have Health Insurance Under The GOP's Obamacare Replacement


Matthew Herper , FORBES STAFF

https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2017/03/07/15-million-people-could-lose-health-insurance-under-the-gops-obamacare-replacement/#2ee601b95f16

Commonsense said...

Troll-Bots use random associations that seldom makes sense.

That's how you know they're troll-bots.

opie said...

I just proved a low socioeconomic status has no bearing on breast cancer as the liver claims

Drunkard, you interpreted what you wanted. Sorry, you did not answer or will you ever answer the actual question because you aren't smart enough. Game, set, match again. CHUCKLE

Commonsense said...

Or alternative headline; 15-million people are freed from the burden of Obamacare.

caliphate4vr said...

Might

Look the word up fatty

Fucking high dumbass

Oh I took your challenge and shoved it down your throats, like you shovel pies in

Later loser

opie said...

Commonsense said...
Troll-Bots use random associations that seldom makes sense.
That's how you know they're troll-bots.

Get ready to be screwed, menstral boy.... you are the age group that trump care will cost the most. Funny beyond words as you worry about troll-bots......Idiot.

Myballs said...

Roger trying to credit obama for the job growth is just dumb, even for him. Trump's deregulating and manufacturing focus has been missing for eight years.

KD, Opium got Skooled said...

Balls, you are correct.

Look at the cliff drop off of illegals attempting to come into the USA, a 40 percent decrease in the month of February alone, why, Enforcing the Law.

Commonsense said...

Roger trying to credit obama for the job growth is just dumb

Oh I think Roger has yet to plumb the depths of his stupidity.

After all, we have nearly 4 to eight years of his TDS rantings to behold.

opie said...

Commonsense said...
Roger trying to credit obama for the job growth is just dumb


While you blamed Obama for Feb 09 651k job loss as obama's. You really are as stupid as I think. CHUCKLE. Remember .2% growth you claimed. Idiot. Thanx for playing.

opie said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Might
Look the word up fatty

And you are now anti an opinion piece from forbes, as source you used to embrace when they bashed the ACA with opinions which were as wrong as all of yours. Dayum, you really are as dumb as I thought. CHUCKLE!

Commonsense said...

Hey dipshit. I was quoting Balls. But over and above that your argument is just plain stupid.

Myballs said...

No I didn't blame Obama three weeks into his first term. I criticized him for the bogus shovel ready non stimulus that became a slush fund for liberal projects.

Roger Amick said...

Opie, it's been a fun day. Went with my Panamanian Queen and looked at some things for our patio. Let's put it this way, I need to make a sign for the new spa.

Clothing Optional Except For Roger

opie said...

. But over and above that your argument is just plain stupid.

Like your .2% growth, menstral boy, or busch left obama with a jobs market crashing at 651k in the month of february while trump takes credit for this years 230k growth, from that phony metric he bashed up until he liked the number????????

Roger Amick said...

We need to take away his remote control and smart phones to save us from World War Three.

His comments are in the style of a guy in a La-Z-Boy shouting at the television, except the guy in the La-Z-Boy has 26 million Twitter followers and controls a nuclear arsenal that could destroy the world many times over.

Fox News’s morning show flashes a graphic alleging that 122 released “Gitmo prisoners reengaged in terrorism.” Within an hour, Trump tweets from the White House: “122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!” (As The Post’s Jenna Johnson pointed out, 113 of the 122 were released during the George W. Bush administration.)


A “Fox & Friends” host calls for Trump to block federal funding to universities that try to “silence conservative voices,” after violent protests at the University of California at Berkeley over a speech by conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos. Half an hour later, Trump tweets: “If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view — NO FEDERAL FUNDS?”

Fox News’s “O’Reilly Factor” cites statistics about crime in Chicago. An hour later, Trump tweets the same statistics: “If Chicago doesn’t fix the horrible ‘carnage’ going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!”

Fox News labels Chelsea Manning an “ungrateful traitor” who had called President Barack Obama a “weak leader.” Fourteen minutes later, CNN’s Brian Stelter notes, Trump tweets: “Ungrateful TRAITOR Chelsea Manning, who should never have been released from prison, is now calling President Obama a weak leader. Terrible!”

Fox News’s Tucker Carlson airs a report alleging that Sweden has been trying to “cover up” an outburst of violence caused by Muslim immigrants. The next day, Trump tells a crowd in Florida: “You look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden? Who would believe this?”


Swedes have no idea what Trump is talking about; an international incident ensues.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-to-save-the-republic-from-world-war-iii-get-trump-to-watch-nashville/2017/03/10/3332055a-05ca-11e7-b1e9-a05d3c21f7cf_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.7db7ddd23be9

opie said...

Flynn the triple dipper and foreign agent working in the WH and no one cared!!!

Not only was he being paid by trump, he was being paid by turkey, and he was collecting his service pension. It's always about the money with republicon's until they have to give some to the treasurary. Then it's all mine !!!!!!!

Wonder how much federal donnie paid the last few years with the millions he made. Legal thievery the right loves to embrace and wish for the same results on their own menial labors. CHUCKLE

opie said...

KD Posted yesterday the donnie was correct about sweden. Just like the obama tapp that only donnie can find.

opie said...

Reality check for the goat farmer.....at least there is 1 honest broker in donnie' s world.....



The February jobs report that the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Friday was strong: 235,000 jobs were added — higher than the 200,000 expected by economists.

It was the first official report of President Donald Trump's tenure, since the survey week for January's report was before Inauguration Day.

According to Gary Cohn, the head of Trump's National Economic Council, there's no reason to credit Trump for the strong report.

During an interview with CNBC, Cohn said the report was "right exactly where it needed to be," but he also said that Trump's team wasn't the reason for the beat.

For one thing, Cohn said, the jobs that were promised by CEOs who have met with Trump haven't been created yet.

"Look, there's clearly a good February as part of the number. I'm not going to deny that," Cohn said. "But on the other hand, when you look at what we've been doing here at the White House and all of the CEOs that we've brought in — whether it be Exxon or Sprint or Intel — they've promised enormous amounts of jobs and job creation in the United States. Those hirings have not been done yet. Those are future hirings."

Thus the beat in the February report, according to Cohn, is on the back of the recovery from the past eight years under President Barack Obama.


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trumps-economic-advisor-admits-trump-161800538.html

Thanx for being stupid, again.

opie said...

The republicon' way.....when in doubt, cheat. It is what you all do best....followed by Obama did it. Dayum idiots, all of you.

Federal judges find Texas gerrymandered maps on racial lines
PAUL J. WEBER,Associated Press 1 hour 14 minutes ago


AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Federal judges found more problems in Texas' voting rights laws, ruling that Republicans racially gerrymandered some congressional districts to weaken the growing electoral power of minorities, who former President Barack Obama set out to protect at the ballot box before leaving office.

The ruling late Friday by a three-judge panel in San Antonio gave Democrats hope of new, more favorably drawn maps that could turn over more seats in Congress in 2018. But the judges in their 2-1 decision didn't propose an immediate fix, and Texas could appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Republicans hold two of three congressional districts ruled newly invalid and were found to have been partly drawn with discriminatory intent. The GOP-controlled Texas Legislature approved the maps in 2011, the same year then-Gov. Rick Perry signed a voter ID law that ranks among the toughest in the U.S. Courts have since weakened that law, too.

KD, US People More Wealthy then at any time in History of the USA said...

Funny Shit and I reminds us that Hypocratcy is the bed rock of Liberals.

Minority Deranged Nancy Polosy want to READ the New Health Care bill BEFORE VOTING, why, why not just pass it and then find out what is in it?

President Trump Won the election and the Leftist here will never get over it, NEVER.

AG Sessions fires 46 Obama spies.

opie said...

To all you idiots who are going to be screwed by trump care......Good, enjoy it, I certainly am. Idiots.

The 60-year-old making $23,000 would get a $4,000 credit — less than under Obamacare. That would increase the annual premium to $5,191.

Also, premiums could go up for older adults because the GOP bill allows insurers to charge more as people age and become more susceptible to health problems.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-plan-less-generous-obamacare-older-americans-200230095--politics.html

Votes have consequences.

KD, Good Morning Opie and Roger Krugman said...

One question for Opie, who as we will take note, is now Mr Honest and will conduct himself to his self imposed High Standard.

"Gary D. Cohn (born August 27, 1960) is an American investment banker. He is the chief economic advisor to President Donald Trump and Director of the National Economic Council. He was formerly the president and chief operating officer of Goldman Sachs. "

Q, When do we as a Nation start to give credit to President Trump for job growth?

KD, "Crushing Cost" of ObimboCare said...

Late on Tuesday, Mr. Cohn, director of the National Economic Council advising President Trump, disclosed in a securities filing that he and his family members had received ownership that day of 940,908 shares of Goldman stock — a position valued at nearly $220 million. That award came in addition to a cash payout, announced the same day, amounting to about $65 million, leaving him with a total windfall of about $285 million.

Given that Mr. Cohn, 56, is required to divest his Goldman shares under federal ethics laws, “we took these actions to enable him to comply with the conflict of interest rules, just as we have done for people in the de Blasio administration,” said Jake Siewert, a company spokesman, referring to the office of Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York. Under a standing policy, Mr. Siewert added, Goldman allows departing employees who are entering government service to keep their stock."


Opie did you know this about your new Hero?

I am so glad you support him and will in the future , Right?


Loretta Russo said...

"AG Sessions fires 46 Obama spies."

It's about time.

opie said...

When do we as a Nation start to give credit to President Trump for job growth?

I'll give him as much credit as you gave Obama. Idiot

opie said...


Okie did you know this about your new Hero?

Now you define honesty as being a hero....seems he will be the last in donnie's group to be one. The rest just cover up the lies......Got tapp????? Idiot.

KD, Angel mom Crushed Polesy said...

Got Tapp?


Answer: Yes

_______________________________________________

Q, When do we as a Nation start to give credit to President Trump for job growth?


A: ((((((((((still waiting for Honest Opie ))))))))))) (I will not wait long, he just is not able to answer a question)))

opie said...

Suddenly, all idiots of the right including trump who bashed the past jobs reports are now declaring they are the best thing since sliced bread....Flip Flopping, the conservative way.....'

Rep. Kevin Brady, the Republican lawmaker who leads the House Ways and Means Committee, typically puts out a statement every month in reaction to the release of the jobs report.

For the past few years, those statements have suggested a trend of weak jobs growth, the result of poor tax and economic policy under the Obama administration.

On Friday, however, that seemed to change.

"This is a great report," Brady said in his statement on the report, the first released under President Donald Trump's tenure.

It continued: "The fact that hundreds of thousands more people found new jobs last month is a good sign that our economy is moving in the right direction. While we still have much more work to do, I’m optimistic that the actions that President Trump and House Republicans are taking will add to this momentum — creating more jobs, growing families’ paychecks, and improving the lives of all Americans."

The February jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the US economy added 235,000 jobs last month, higher than the 200,000 expected by economists but roughly in line with the trend from the last few years.

What was striking to some observers was the difference between Brady's statement Friday and his comment from just a year ago, when the economy added 242,000 jobs in the month of February of 2016. The discrepancy was first pointed out by the Huffington Post's Sam Stein.

The fact free zone that is trump

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/top-republican-leader-suddenly-changed-175611455.html

opie said...

When do we as a Nation start to give credit to President Trump for job growth?

When the nation says so, not a second before. BTW....you really are just a dumb fuck today, aren't you?????

KD said...

And so ends Opie's fake attempt at an honest discussion on the events and topics of the day.


Ette, GOT SNOW?

I love the fake global warming, err, cooling, oh yeah the never fav flavor, climate change.

We do know this, we know these jobs will be put on the books of President Trump, they will be credited to his account and we do know those with new jobs vote for the party that is in power when they got employed.

We also know that the Labor Participation Rate rose . We also know that the trickle down effect of employment is that those people in their newly minted jobs pay taxes to local and state and federal coffers, that those people buy things.

The economics of it all will have President Trump having a much stronger GDP.

We know that The Bitter Clinger Janet Yelling will raise rates to hurt the US Economy, at least three times this year alone.

Look for each rate to come after good news in the US Economy. Each will be a 25 basis point rise or more.

you would think her best interest of the US, that is not what she stayed of for, her job is to hurt the US economy work for the DNC.

Commonsense said...

Suddenly, all idiots of the right including trump who bashed the past jobs reports are now declaring they are the best thing since sliced bread

Well Opie, for the first time in eight years the numbers show real tangible job growth rather than the pathetic numbers the Obama administration kept hyping.

You had :

100,000 more jobs than the initial estimate for a robust 298,000 jobs. More than enough to keep up with population growth.

Not only that, they were high paying, high quality jobs. Real wages went up.

Real unemployment went down from 9.4 to 9.2 meaning people are reentered the workforce.

Under Obama, the recovery was the worst recovery since WWII. It crippled along under the weight of Obamacare, taxes, mandates, and regulations.

Under Trump, the economy booms. Happy days are here again.

KD said...

The thing is Opie I have given Obama a lot of Credit.

I credit him with the following:

Lowest Rate of Minority Business Start ups
Lowest GDP Growth
Lowest Labor Participation Rates
Lowest Home Ownership
Adding 14 Trillion to the National Debt
Adding 13 Million more to electronic soup lines



KD said...

I am really glad to see the U6 posted here by one of US conservatives, because the "very retarded" Roger Krugman told us, err predicted that none of US conservatives would NOT post the U6 during the President Trump term. He said we "used it against" Obama. No we used truth.

Americans are Richer because of the Trump Effect and the rise in the US Stock Market and for those of US that took risk comes the reward.

KD, This is not Trumps Economy. said...

When the nation says so" Opie

So who is exactly that?

Remember I am not forcing you to post the things you do, I am just asking you to explain your points.

Thanks Opie.

How many years was Obama in office before he ever called it his economy, I recall there was an ongoing b.s. blame the other guy festival .

opie said...

When the nation says so" Opie

So who is exactly that?

LOL idiot....you phrased the question that way, not me......so answer it yourself.......

Well Opie, for the first time in eight years the numbers show real tangible job growth rather than the pathetic numbers the Obama administration kept hyping


this coming from the guy who said there was . 2% growth in busch's last quarter. BTW. the great growth of 237K was bested in the last year of obama, and according to trump, was a bs number. Now it is a great number....You need to open your eyes since you are bd'ing just like trump. Dayum

opie said...

In case you missed it menstral child.....

America's job market has made progress under Obama's watch. U.S. unemployment hit a high of 10% in October 2009 and is now at less than half that level. In December, the unemployment rate rose just a tad to 4.7% from 4.6% in November, the lowest rate since 2007.
The underemployment rate, which includes part-time workers who would like to work full time, also fell to 9.2%, its lowest point since 2008.
"By just about any measure, 2016 was a banner year for the job market," says Ian Siegel, co-founder of ZipRecruiter, a job recruitment site.
CNN wants to know: Is your town losing jobs?
In total, the economy has added 11.3 million jobs during Obama's presidency.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/06/news/economy/december-jobs-report-2016/index.html

KD, All Points Look Out,,, Where is BLM's, were they just a toy of the Dems? said...

She may only be 35 but it turns out that Ivanka Trump is running one of the highest-earning companies in the country.

The beautiful blonde secretly launched a skincare company last year and has kept quiet about her successful stint as CEO.' People Mag


clothing line Why does the left always target successful woman and blacks?

Ivanki Trump is not conservative, she is a liberal and worse a NY Liberal.

KD, Start Counting when you want said...

total, the economy has added 11.3 million jobs during Obama's presidency."


Nope

We have pitted that cherry countless times.

Come on Opie , your better then that.


This IS may Fav quote of the Obama 8 lost years:


Megyn Kelly: On the subject of race, are we better off today that seven years ago?

Tavis Smiley: I’m not sure we are and I think ultimately the president missed a moment… On every leading economic issue, in the leading economic issues Black Americans have lost ground in every one of those leading categories. So in the last ten years it hasn’t been good for black folk. This is the president’s most loyal constituency that didn’t gain any ground in that period. "


opie said...

Nope
We have pitted that cherry countless times.

And you're an idiot, countless times over. Sorry, you lose again.

opie said...

Ivanka is nothing more than white trash, like you, with a silver spoon stuck up her ass. lol

Commonsense said...

In case you missed it menstral child.....

America's job market has made progress under Obama's watch.


Well I guess I did miss it.

So did everybody else.

Which is why we have a President Trump.

opie said...

Well I guess I did miss it.
So did everybody else.

You can lead a republican' to water, but can't drown them.....too bad.