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Wednesday, March 8, 2017

Wikileaks confirms...

Paranoid Obama White House wanted to bug everything and everyone...


60 comments:

KD, Ette Great Heart Land Ditto's said...

Loretta Russo said...
More Obama's success....

"WikiLeaks publish 1000s of what they say are CIA documents"

Did the man do anything to protect ANYONE?



March 7, 2017 at 6:39 PM"

From another tread, spot on.


My answer was no, Obama did not protect and defend the USA, this is further proof.


Loretta Russo said...

Accusing Obama's intelligence apparatus and DOJ surveillance of Trump doesn't seem so farfetched, now does it....

opie said...

"Aint' Wikileaks Great!!!!!!!" Donald Trump President of the United States.

Commonsense said...

You're just shooting the messenger.

James said...

LOL Day after day it only becomes clearer that the Obama's were the real deal.

Loretta Russo said...

Just two black people, nothing special.

James said...

Ryan doesn't want you to know that his health care bill is just a huge tax cut of $600 billion for the super wealthy with far fewer resources to cover the poor and the sick, a feature that is so unpopular and objectionable that he is trying to keep it hidden from the public.

James said...

How can Trumpcare be saved, opposed as it is by the AARP, the House Freedom Caucus, GOP senators including Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, Heritage, the Club for Growth, tea party groups and even Breitbart News?

Loretta Russo said...

My mistake....

The Obama's are just two n@@@ars, according to James and Roger.

KD said...

Welcome Back Jane, where you been?

Loretta Russo said...

Mental hospital, he lost another job.

Commonsense said...

Ryan doesn't want you to know that his health care bill is just a huge tax cut of $600 billion for the super wealthy

Well James, that got to be the most stupid-ass statement you have ever made and that's saying something.

The "super wealthy" are getting no more of a tax cut with Ryan's proposal than they are getting now with Obamacare.

In fact the "super wealthy" can just pay the fine and self-insure with all the tax deductions that one gets from paying their own medical expenses.

But suppose they do play the game and buy insurance.

What's to stop them from creating a shell LLC, buying the insurance under the LLC, and then deducting 100% of the premium as a business expense.

So for the remote possibility that some rich guy might take advantage of the law you would deny middle and working class people the deductions and credits that their employers would get if they purchase the insurance.

Smart, real smart. Just another example of liberal logic.

KD said...

One of the statements was made by the community organizer and the left loved it , the other Was Made by Dr. Ben Carson and the left hated it, can you match the statement to the correct ni##er?

A:
"Our American journey, our success, would simply not be possible without the generations of immigrants who have come to our shores from every corner of the globe. We say it so often, we sometimes forget what it means — we are a nation of immigrants. Unless you are one of the first Americans, a Native American, we are all descended from folks who came from someplace else — whether they arrived on the Mayflower or on a slave ship, whether they came through Ellis Island or crossed the Rio Grande."


B:
“That’s what America is about. A land of dreams and opportunity,” Carson said. “There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they, too, had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”

KD, Deflect from stolen Secrets UNDER OBAMA the ass clown said...

"Most stupid-ass Statement"

Well, James is the queen of stupid. He acted as if something is being hidden, yet, he was able to find it out.

Loretta Russo said...

"What's to stop them from creating a shell LLC, buying the insurance under the LLC, and then deducting 100% of the premium as a business expense.

So for the remote possibility that some rich guy might take advantage of the law you would deny middle and working class people the deductions and credits that their employers would get if they purchase the insurance."

He isn't going to understand any of that, LOL.

opie said...

Commonsense said...
You're just shooting the messenger

He's the one who caused it. Accepting the wikileaks DNC stuff and saying he love wikileaks, emboldened the thieves to do more. The only messenger who shot be shot with a single bullet is you an him. Now you finally wake up an see Ryan's out for himself and his benefactors. Screwed again. Wait to you see the price hikes that are coming, remember you voted for him and his thieves. Idiot.

Commonsense said...

You mean as opposed to the price hikes that are here now?

Moron.

Loretta Russo said...

I'm still waiting for PNC's proof that Trump sent surrogates to riot in Sweden, LOL.

KD, At Least We get to Read it before they Vote said...

You mean as opposed to the price hikes that are here now?"


I am waiting for Obama to come thru with the $2,500 tax cut per year for my family, is it too late?

My Deductable has gone from $3,500 three years ago to $7,500 today and my premium from $550 a month to $750 a month.


I really doubt that going back to a market based system can possibly more costly to my family.


opie said...

Commonsense said...
You mean as opposed to the price hikes that are here now?

One of the provisions discussed here before with CH was the elimination of maximum rates on those age 50 and above. IOW's you are really gonna be fucked. Enjoy, mensa boy!!! CH thought it was BS. Now, is time to pay for your vote. And I am laughing my ass off!!!!!

KD, Obama Knew said...

Obama knew before the election that surveillance was being done against Trump at his residence.

The liberals here , simple forgive Obama, after all Hillary needed to win at all cost.

KD, Was Obama too Stupid to Know what FBI and CIA were doing to Trump? said...

waiting for PNC's proof that Trump sent surrogates to riot in Sweden, LOL. " Ette


PNC is not at all bright.

Turns out Trump was right about Sweden.

He is right a lot .


Nice Having a real President again.

KD, Clinton Campaign still campaining said...

Former Sec. of State was asked about the arrest of the Son of her former VP pick Mike Pence.

Officially she had no comment, what a low life no back bone bleachbitch she is and always will be.

What was the son of the Former VP running mate arrest for exactly.

Rioting, Felony.

caliphate4vr said...

One of the provisions discussed here before with CH was the elimination of maximum rates on those age 50 and above.

Fatty that's not what was discussed. It was the expansion beyond the 3 to 1 rate band, probably to 5 to 1. Which means you can't charge 64 year more than 5 times the premium of a 21 year old. GA used to be 8 to 1, all Bumblecare did was jack the living hell out young people's premiums, which is why you don't have enough young people in the pool....As I predicted

KD said...

Correction, Meant to type Tim Kaines kid.

Sorry guys

KD, Insurance is not a Right said...

Cali we will be needing you more then ever to keep us up to date on the correct data about the Repeal of the worst domestic blunder in US history.

And the return to market forces.

KD said...

....As I predicted" Cali


Yes you did and so much more and you where right.

PNC said...

Still waiting for Gonorrhetta'a proof that she's not a left wing shill, considering she's consistently supported liberal policies for years and helped vote the Democrat Congress into office in 2006.

PNC said...

GayD is not at all conservative or patriotic.

Turns out Trump is a socialist pushing Obamacare-lite and furthering the damage Obama did to this nation.

But GayD doesn't care, because of ongoing fantasies of being Trump's future sodomy slave.

Loretta Russo said...

Leftwing, LOL!

ProudNutCruzie supporter still butt-hurt over Trump.

Probably has small hands....

Roger Amick said...

There is not a Damn thing in those leaks support Trump's claim. Nor do they claim that President Obama either knew about this, IF they are correct. Your assumptions are pulled from the same part of your body, when you, as usual, attempt to distract attention from the nut case in the White House.

Roger Amick said...

If you would look at the Kaiser Foundation web site, they have graphics that show how much those under 65, making $75,000 a year will have full health insurance, while the families making under $30,000 get shit. TrumpCare would be a lot worse than Obamacare.

KD, 8 Lost years said...

Former CIA Director said on pbs last night Obama Knew about the Leak in July 2016.

He did nothing during the 8 lost years to protect and defend the secrets of the USA.

Commonsense said...

So your argument is that since Obamacare is a piece of shit, we shouldn't change it.

What an intellectual giant you are.

KD, said...

1 %


99 % of what Obama failed to safe guard has yet to be released according to WikiLeaks and as we know from the Hillary Leaks, Wiki likes to trickle it out, and build to the best stuff they have.

KD, Run HalfOpium said...

HalfOpium is seeing the death of Obamacare, it was the wet dream of the left and she is in real pain.

He lets children he knows starve , rather then feeding them from his own wealth.

Roger Amick said...

Republicans slammed the TrumpCare pill of tax cuts for the top 1% through the House of Representatives last night, in an 18 hour marathon.

House Republicans this week unveiled their long-awaited bill replacing the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. Blandly titled the American Health Care Act—or as many have already taken to calling it, Trumpcare—the House GOP bill is effectively a concession that the right lacks a workable health care vision of its own: The program they offer would retain the fundamental structure of Obamacare, albeit with an ugly and regressive twist. While it would dramatically fail to achieve President Donald Trump’s stated goal of “insurance for everybody,” it would be strikingly successful in redistributing wealth to make the rich even richer.

Among Obamacare’s numerous provisions, the most well-known (and beneficial) were those that expanded coverage. Between the Medicaid expansion and subsidization of the private insurance industry (together with various insurance regulations and mandates), the law effectively reduced the number of uninsured by an estimated 20 million (albeit still leaving some 29 million uninsured as of 2015).

Trumpcare would take us in precisely in the opposite direction. For the private insurance market, the GOP plan follows Obamacare in subsidizing the purchase of health insurance plans for those who are otherwise uninsured. However, while Obamacare provides income-based premium subsidies that are tied to the price of the plan (such that those with lower income receive bigger subsidies), Trumpcare would provide flat subsidies—which it calls refundable tax credits—to all but high-income earners. Older recipients would receive twice the subsidies of younger recipients, but the subsidy otherwise wouldn’t be tied to the actual price of the plan, making insurance unaffordable for many.

Moreover, the GOP plan would also eliminate Obamacare’s cost-sharing subsidies that lower out-of-pocket medical costs for millions, leaving even more people with insurance that they can’t afford to use and worsening the epidemic of underinsurance. And whereas under Obamacare, the government penalizes you for being uninsured, under Trumpcare the penalty would instead be inflicted by insurers: Those who fail to maintain continuous coverage would have their premiums jacked up by 30%.

http://fortune.com/2017/03/09/gop-health-care-plan-healthcare-obamacare-trumpcare-medicaid-insurance/

Right and left are going calling this totally nuts.

It won't pass the Senate.

Roger Amick said...

Lying Republicans fuck the country at 2:00 AM attack on the United States.

Republicans are so hell-bent on repealing Obamacare even though that would cost 20 million Americans their health insurance haven’t been heeding the old investigator’s maxim to “follow the money.”

The path leads to the Affordable Care Act’s tax provisions, and the discovery that repeal would provide the wealthiest taxpayers with an immediate tax cut totaling $346 billion over 10 years. Every cent of that would go to taxpayers earning more than $200,000 a year ($250,000 for couples). As Nicholas Bagley of the University of Michigan observed a few days after the election, the imperative of handing their wealthy patrons a gift of this magnitude may well outweigh their solicitude for the mostly middle- and low-income constituents whose individual insurance plans would be at risk from repeal.

“However ambivalent Republicans may be about health reform,” he wrote, “they are not at all ambivalent about big tax cuts to the wealthy.”

Repeal and delay lights a fuse that’s attached to a bomb. No one should be surprised if it explodes.
— ..




That tax cut would result from repeal of two major ACA tax provisions aimed at the wealthy. But the figure only hints at the implications of Obamacare repeal on Americans’ incomes. According to a study released this week by the Tax Policy Center, a joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, Obamacare repeal would reduce the average incomes of Americans in the lowest 60% of income earners, mostly because of the loss of tax subsidies for insurance premiums. But it would give the incomes of those in the top 20% — and especially the top 1% — a significant boost. “In general,” the TPC found, “repealing the health reform law would, on average, cut taxes for the rich and raise them for low-income households.”


http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-obamacare-tax-cut-20161216-story.html As-


KD, Debate is Good, Liberals hate it said...

BakedAlky,,, you do know your team lost the election, you guy played the HATE THE RICH card and lost, we elected a Billionaire.

So IF you continue to show unrestrained wealth envy, well, just know I will continue to point it out.

Alky, you have to be a self joke.

You talking about ramming this bill, wtf is wrong with you?

We are having a open debate, unlike when Obama care was passed with no debate, in the night, without publishing the bill, recall your main PussyPolosi, have to pass it to find out what is in it.

We know what is going into this bill, yes , some of it is not exactly what we want, but ObamaCare is far worse, we know, we are living thru it.

So be a good little minority and be constructive , the Adults are in charge.

KD, Spamming Alky on overload said...

I see now , never mind, go ahead Alky, rant and spam.

I will check back later after 6 more of you cut n paste non-sense posting.

Commonsense said...
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Roger Amick said...

K'putz can't read. The reaction against it is almost unanimous.

Commonsense said...

Every cent of that would go to taxpayers earning more than $200,000 a year ($250,000 for couples).

A lie right off the bat. A repeal of the Medicare tax increase would benefit everybody receiving wages.

Repeal of the net investment tax would encourage more investment (and more jobs) in the United States.

Obamacare was built on the backs of the working poor.

Relief and even the promise of relief from Obamacare and other Obama era policies are already helping the working poor.

Witness the increase of over 100,000 jobs above projection for Feburary.

Liberal policies are bad for business, bad for the middle class, and bad for the poor.

Commonsense said...

Say goodbye to Obamacare Roger. It's going to go one way or the other.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Lying Republicans fuck the country at 2:00 AM attack on the United States.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

you know roger, you're right.

the entire shitpile is in a death spiral, poised to completely crater in the not-so-distant future.

so we should let it. let it crash, let it burn, let it die.

i'm with you on this one rog.

rrb said...




oh, and btw rog, this whole re-make of 0linsky-care is the brainchild of that nefarious plotmaster and foil of the left...

...mark levin.

caliphate4vr said...

Republicans are so hell-bent on repealing Obamacare even though that would cost 20 million Americans their health insurance haven’t been heeding the old investigator’s maxim to “follow the money.”

There's a fucking lie and I have proven it repeatedly.

70% of new Medicaid enrolleses were always eligible and I've fucking cut you off at your knees on this every time

KD, Good Morning Liberals, Breaking NEWS Hillary Clinton is not the President said...

70% of new Medicaid enrolleses were always eligible and I've fucking cut you off at your knees on this every time" Cali

yes you do, you once told HB he knew nothing , this is again making y our point.

caliphate4vr said...

They just lie with ease, it's second nature

KD, Tax Elimination lets the Earn keep Control of the Money said...

Roger, let me attempt to again educate you on the laws of taxes in the USA.


When one goes to work, earns money, it is taxed as a payroll tax .

When one earns money over a prescribed amount that money is taxed at the Federal Level Higher.

When the Federal income tax rate is dropped, the person earning the money keeps more.

You believe from what I read , that lowering taxes on earned income means that your Beloved big brother Federal Government, gives the earner even more money.

So say I earn 80 k a year, under your belief , after your beloved government lowers my taxes I now make 85 K a year.

Rog are you over 65 years old?

KD, ALky please stop lying, we fact check you, you are wrong and stupid said...

insurance, while the families making under $30,000 get shit."

I went to the web page, I know this is just piling on old sick tired financially broke Alky, but his statement is a lie.

opie said...

There's a fucking lie and I have proven it repeatedly.

The only thing you prove is your asshatery!!!!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/09/us/politics/who-is-really-affected-by-rising-obamacare-premiums.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Plus the ones most affected by the latest GOP circle jerk are those middle age white mid west voters. Good for them. BTW, you now own it and all the worms. FU pauline.

opie said...

"I LOVE WIKILEAKS" Donal Trump displaying hacked DNC e-mails. Paybacks are a bitch, aren't they!!!

KD, Economic Boom said...

So because it might benefit the hard working people in the Heart land it should not be done.

Good morning HalfOpium.

I can understand your anger at Trump's booming Economy and stock market as you went all in with Roger Krugman and bet against both the US Worker and the US Investor.

401 K statements/457 b statement/ 529 Statements come out at the end of this month, those with money in them and in the US Market are going to be very happy, mo money, mo money . mo money.

opie said...

From the other thread......still avoiding an uncomfortable answer, normal for liars like you, goat farmer.

KD said

Wait, HalfOpium stated that the US Stock Market and Job Market was crashin
Link goat farmer.....another stinking liar amongst us, the trump way.

caliphate4vr said...

The only thing you prove is your asshatery!!!!!!

You truly are that unoriginal

God it must suck to be you

lol

opie said...

ou truly are that unoriginal

God it must suck to be you

Wow pauline, you really impress me with your childlike rants. I'm just stealing from the rat, and it sure hit home judging by your response. Most amusing. How's your lake cabin coming????? LOL

caliphate4vr said...

Fatty that was no rant and you simply don't matter.

Make sure you get the last word. I know how much it matters to you.

LOL

opie said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Fatty that was no rant and you simply don't matter.
Make sure you get the last word. I know how much it matters to you.

And you are just a flaming asshole whose shit don't stink, like always and have trouble growing up.
Amen. LOLOL

Mitch the Jowls.... said...


Mitch McConnell’s surprising answer about whether Mexico will pay for the border wall
"Uh, no" was the Senate majority leader's blunt response when asked whether he believed that Mexico would foot the cost. That's the general feeling within the GOP political establishment, but something members will not usually say aloud.