Monday, August 20, 2018

A little Reminder

The DOJ has actual guidelines to determine if certain actions made by government officials should be considered corrupt. When an action is considered to be dubious, then such action is required to have three basic elements to show it is not corrupt:

  • the action is ostensibly lawful 
  • the action is within the official's discretion
  • the action is possibly justified by non-corrupt reasons

This criteria was the overlying theme of the recent Justice department IG investigation of the FBI. In the cases were Horowitz was required to make a call, he fell back on whether or not the actions of the FBI were lawful, within official discretion, and whether there was a possible non-corrupt justification. Even in cases where he suggested there was plenty to be suspicious of, he allowed the guidelines to be the final arbitrator.  

As an employee of the DOJ, Special Counsel would be required to follow those guidelines in assessing any actions that the President makes, that might considered corrupt (or more specifically, the basis of an obstruction charge). In each situation, Mueller and gang would be required to answer those specific questions.

Example:
  • Was the action of the President firing James Comey ostensibly lawful? Absolutely. 
  • Was the action within the President's discretion? Certainly. 
  • Did the action have a possible justification that did not involve a corrupt reason? Yes, and Mueller's own boss wrote the recommendation for the non-corrupt reason to have him fired.

In each case of individual action, Special Counsel would be required to ask those same questions. If Special Counsel wants to conclude that obvious lawful actions that are well within the President's official discretion are "corrupt", then they must find that such action had "no possible justified non-corrupt reason". It cannot be a matter of opinion. It cannot be a matter of conjecture. It cannot even be a matter of preponderance of evidence.

Herein lies the rub. Those who defend Mueller, do so largely by making the argument that he is a straight shooter who follows the rules. But in order for Mueller to make the argument that many of his supporters would like him to make, would require him to bend DOJ rules... which would undermine the argument that he should be trusted (because he is a rule-follower).

But we all know that is a dishonest assessment of the Trump-hater argument. They defend Mueller because they hate Trump, and they will defend Mueller as long as he appears to be an opponent of the President. But make no mistake, this love for Mueller is fickle and could be fleeting.  If Mueller comes back with a report (similar to the one that Horowitz made about the FBI) where he implies that they may have been some bad decisions, but that it was all perfectly legal withing the guidelines, then you would see the left turn on Mueller, like a starving dog tearing into raw meat.

100 comments:

Anonymous said...




i would like to agree, but rosenstein wrote mueller's marching orders just broad enough and just vague enough that they would argue this falls outside of those basic elements. and remember, the goal here is NOT criminal prosecution.

mueller will be drafting a report, not an indictment, and that's key since this whole shitshow has never had criminality as it's focus. this is about impeachment; a political and not criminal remedy. the left doesn't want to actually prosecute trump for anything. they just want him gone. impeachment gets that done.

Anonymous said...

#Metoo , yep you too Pervert.
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caliphate4vr said...

NYT Columnist: Trump Is Part of an Axis of 'Thugs' Who ‘Would Certainly Like to’ Murder People

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Giuliani was on Meet the Press today with Chuck Todd. Truth is??

“They have taken 2-3 weeks to get back to us,” Giuliani said, “so what I have to tell you is, look, I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury. And when you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well that’s so silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth. He didn’t have a, a conversation —

Todd interrupted. “Truth is truth. I don’t mean to go like —

Giuliani leaped at that. “No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth. The President of the United States says, “I didn’t — ”
Todd couldn’t resist interrupting. “Truth isn’t truth? Mr. Mayor, do you realize, what, I, I, I–” Todd then admitted the exchange “is going to become a bad meme.”

Giuliani glumly admitted that possibility. “Don’t do, don’t do this to me.”

Todd concluded. “Don’t do truth isn’t truth to me.”

Myballs said...

Glumly admitted? Lol. More like sternly rebuked.

And ask the duke lacrosse team about truth telling vs a prosecutor deciding whose truth hr wants to accept.

Loretta said...

"Giuliani was on Meet the Press today with Chuck Todd. Truth is??"

Will you be spamming every thread FIVE more times today with this?

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Giuliani was on Meet the Press today with Chuck Todd. Truth is??



we've covered this, alky...


i see all the cool kids are getting a real kick out of this. 0linsky's man-gina made rudy look bad.

or did he?



Andrew McCarthy refuted the seemingly self-evident position advocated by Todd in his NR column “Of Course There Is Such a Thing as a ‘Perjury Trap.’” McCarthy diplomatically accounted for the likes of Todd: “Because some of the people making this nonsensical claim [i.e., that there is no ‘perjury trap’ if you just tell the truth] are very smart, let’s stipulate that the heated moment we find ourselves in is driven by politics, not law or logic.” That’s Todd.

McCarthy explains:

The theme the anti-Trump camp is pushing — again, a sweet-sounding political claim that defies real-world experience — is that an honest person has nothing to fear from a prosecutor. If you simply answer the questions truthfully, there is no possibility of a false-statements charge.

But see, for charging purposes, the witness who answers the questions does not get to decide whether they have been answered truthfully. That is up to the prosecutor who asks the questions. The honest person can make his best effort to provide truthful, accurate, and complete responses; but the interrogator’s evaluation, right or wrong, determines whether those responses warrant prosecution.


The interrogator making the evaluation — that would be Robert Mueller and his Democrat friends conducting the investigation. Should President Trump submit to an interrogation in which Mueller et al. pass judgment on Trump’s veracity? In the matter of “truth is not truth,” understood as intended, Giuliani is right and Todd is wrong.


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/08/the-todd-trap.php


rudy's right. when you have a dirty cop like mueller defining "truth" your odds of winning are exactly zero.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your favorite columnist tells the Coldheartedtruth about you. I have been seeing this unbelievable descent into the embracement of a dictatorship.



The real news of the past few weeks isn’t that Trump is a wannabe Mussolini who can’t even make the trains run on time. It’s the absence of any meaningful pushback from Congressional Republicans. Indeed, not only are they acquiescing in Trump’s corruption, his incitements to violence, and his abuse of power, up to and including using the power of office to punish critics, they’re increasingly vocal in cheering him on.

Make no mistake: if Republicans hold both houses of Congress this November, Trump will go full authoritarian, abusing institutions like the I.R.S., trying to jail opponents and journalists on, er, trumped-up charges, and more — and he’ll do it with full support from his party.

But why? Is Trumpocracy what Republicans always wanted?


It gets worse.

the path of least resistance is always to sign on for the next stage of degradation. “No evidence of collusion” becomes “collusion is no big deal” becomes “collusion is awesome — and let’s send John Brennan to jail.”

"Mueller, like a starving dog tearing into raw meat."

The President is the most dangerous in history.


The Slippery Slope of Complicity https://nyti.ms/2N2ZOx6

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The truth is what Trump says it is.

Unbelievable

Anonymous said...




krugman.

LOL.

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...
The truth is what Trump says it is.



no alky. the truth is what mueller says it is. and therein lies the problem.

mueller's a dirty cop. corrupt to the core. you don't place your future in the hands of a scumbag like that.

Anonymous said...

NYT Columnist: Trump Is Part of an Axis of 'Thugs' Who ‘Would Certainly Like to’ Murder People


when an asshat like katy tur thinks you're nuts, you've got a problem. and she knows nuts. her father is a tranny.

Anonymous said...



it looks like krugman is channeling his inner 0linsky with some psychological projection of his own:

Make no mistake: if Republicans hold both houses of Congress this November, Trump will go full authoritarian, abusing institutions like the I.R.S., trying to jail opponents and journalists on, er, trumped-up charges, and more — and he’ll do it with full support from his party.


skeets weaponized the IRS.

skeets took a good run at trying to jail journalists like james rosen and a crew at the AP.

and skeets did his pen and phone routine with the full support of congressional democrats.

good job alky.

C.H. Truth said...

mueller will be drafting a report, not an indictment, and that's key since this whole shitshow has never had criminality as it's focus.

As is the case with Horowitz and IG reports in general. To some degree, the more Mueller is writing a "report" for the A.G. and DOJ - the more those DOJ rules should control that report.

In the Manafort trial, the attorneys for the special counsel admitted to not following DOJ rules in their charges against Manafort... but stated that their rule breaking did not provide Manafort with any additional rights or expectations of not being charged. Judge reluctantly agreed.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger

The Giuliani Todd back and forth shows the difference between what an Attorney understands about the law (which is usually most everything) vs what a journalists understands (which is usually almost nothing).

The truth in a "perjury" or "false statement" charges is what the prosecution determines it should be. The classic example is the Flynn testimony. The FBI concluded that they believed Flynn believed he was telling the truth. But Mueller decided that even though Flynn supposedly providing "honest" testimony (as Flynn understood it) was not "the truth" - so he charged him.

Then threatened his family to get a plea.

Anonymous said...



As is the case with Horowitz and IG reports in general. To some degree, the more Mueller is writing a "report" for the A.G. and DOJ - the more those DOJ rules should control that report.


and there's the rub. when scooter libby got fucked, fitzgerald was in pursuit of an actual crime and filed the indictment which resulted in libby being wrongly convicted.

in this case, it's never even been in pursuit of a specific crime as mccarthy and others have argued that it should've been. rosenstein simply issued mueller a license to fish with the result being a report, not an indictment, and if the dems win the house - impeachment.

and btw, i don't think for a minute that any DOJ "rules" are controlling anything. the rulebook got tossed the day rosenstein gave mueller his fishing license.

Anonymous said...

Warren/Polosi/Cortez/Sanders/Obama

Have scored a Yuge Win.

Venezuela, congratulations.

C.H. Truth said...

and there's the rub. when scooter libby got fucked, fitzgerald was in pursuit of an actual crime and filed the indictment which resulted in libby being wrongly convicted.

Classic example.

The Scooter Libby case was he said/she said.... Fitzgerald considered the "truth" to be one thing, convinced a jury he was right... but in the end his key witness admitted she was wrong about what she thought the "truth" was at the time.

Scooter Libby became a convicted felon because the system allows a prosecutor to determine what the "truth" actually is... when in fact, he had no clue what the truth was.

Anonymous said...




web hubbell's fugly daughter just might run for office after all...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/20/chelsea-clinton-says-she-has-not-ruled-out-running-for-office?CMP=twt_gu

caliphate4vr said...

I thought Janet Reno was her dad...

Anonymous said...

Janet Reno was Hillary's long time back door lover.

Anonymous said...

.

LOL." RRB

Lordie ,

Anonymous said...

President Trump "Socialist Very Dangerous"

Yep.

Everyone know that truth.

Anonymous said...

Pontius Pilate: "What is truth?"


Rudy Giuliani: "Truth isn't truth."

Anonymous said...

Trump: A John Dean type Rat.
Dean: Well, I told the truth about Nixon as I said I would.




caliphate4vr said...

Go away pedo

You contribute nothing

OMG! Trump said...

OMG! Trump Didn’t Know How Long McGahn Spent with Mueller

“White House counsel Don McGahn’s 30 hours of conversations with special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has UNNERED President Trump, who didn’t know the full extent of McGahn’s discussions,” CNN reports.

“Trump was spending another weekend at his New Jersey golf club when The New York Times first reported McGahn’s cooperation with Mueller’s office… The President was unsettled by the notion that he didn’t know everything McGahn said to the special counsel during their interviews, the sources said. And while he had approved the cooperation, Trump did not know the conversations stretched for 30 HOURS or that his legal team DIDN'T conduct a full debriefing with McGahn after the fact.”

. said...

*UNNERVED

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

There is no such thing as the truth according to Rudy Giuliani so help me Trump.

Caliphate4vr said...

Make America White again.

Anonymous said...

Roger, to stupid to understand what The Mayor Rudy said.

Roger only tells the truth when asked. Roger how often did or do you use the word "Niger"?

Anonymous said...

"OMG! Trump" = Coward Jane.

I don't read post by cowards.

Anonymous said...

Roger when getting "strange" from your current wife and married , did they know about each other?

not_a_dumbass said...

Total bullshit. That was the IG regarding alleged "partisan bias" NOT a "requirement" nor "actual guidelines" to determine corrupt intent.

Just because Andrew McCarthey reaches ever further for ever more stupid quasi-legal defenses, doesn't mean every moron should be repeating them. Not in public. Impress your wife and captive audience kids with your mansplaining skills but really, on the record? It's pathetic.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


POTUS on Russia Probe: "I could run it if I want"
Reuters conducted a wide-ranging interview with President Trump Monday, and the Russia investigation was part of the conversation.

“I can go in, and I could do whatever — I could run it if I want. But I decided to stay out,” he said. “I’m totally allowed to be involved if I wanted to be. So far, I haven’t chosen to be involved. I’ll stay out.”

Loretta said...

Triggered.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

From Spicer & Conway’s alternative facts to Sanders’ daily dissembling, we can now add Giuliani’s “truth isn’t truth” to the hall of shame. Nothing is more corrosive to democracy than the idea that there is no truth. And no one has told more falsehoods than the President himself.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Panic

Everybody wants to keep their Security Clearance, it’s worth great prestige and big dollars, even board seats, and that is why certain people are coming forward to protect Brennan. It certainly isn’t because of the good job he did! He is a political “hack.”

I hope John Brennan, the worst CIA Director in our country’s history, brings a lawsuit. It will then be very easy to get all of his records, texts, emails and documents to show not only the poor job he did, but how he was involved with the Mueller Rigged Witch Hunt. He won’t sue!

Where’s the Collusion? They made up a phony crime called Collusion, and when there was no Collusion they say there was Obstruction (of a phony crime that never existed). If you FIGHT BACK or say anything bad about the Rigged Witch Hunt, they scream Obstruction!

....looking for trouble. They are enjoying ruining people’s lives and REFUSE to look at the real corruption on the Democrat side - the lies, the firings, the deleted Emails and soooo much more! Mueller’s Angry Dems are looking to impact the election. They are a National Disgrace!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Disgraced and discredited Bob Mueller and his whole group of Angry Democrat Thugs spent over 30 hours with the White House Councel, only with my approval, for purposes of transparency. Anybody needing that much time when they know there is no Russian Collusion is just someone....

Study the late Joseph McCarthy, because we are now in period with Mueller and his gang that make Joseph McCarthy look like a baby! Rigged Witch Hunt!

Just watched former Intelligence Official Phillip Mudd become totally unglued and weird while debating wonderful @PARISDENNARD over Brennan’s Security Clearance. Dennard destroyed him but Mudd is in no mental condition to have such a Clearance. Should be REVOKED? @seanhannity

Anonymous said...

Actually agree with this post from Roger Amick.

Mueller is panicking.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Nixon White House is panic mode.

The White House staff has been trying to figure out how to distract attention away from the investigation. The White House counsel said a lot more about the President than they expected.

Its funny how much the tweets from the President are rewritten by Scott on his blog.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Muller is obviously not in panic mode. As usual we don't get leaks from the investigation. The President's panicked with almost a dozen tweets.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Giuliani went to Twitter to try and back off his stupid truth is dependent upon who is telling the truth.

Giuliani sought to clear the air.

"My statement was not meant as a pontification on moral theology but one referring to the situation where two people make precisely contradictory statements, the classic 'he said,she said' puzzle. Sometimes further inquiry can reveal the truth other times it doesn’t," Giuliani wrote on Twitter.

Giuliani often acts as a surrogate for the president, appearing on television in his capacity as Trump's lawyer to counter news reports about Mueller's probe. The president has long complained about the special counsel's investigation, branding it a "witch hunt" stacked with "angry Democrats," even though Mueller himself is a registered Republican.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, obviously Roger Amick is in panic mode.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Far from it unless my fear of seeing the country descends into a banana republic dictatorship matters.

His tweets were getting incresingly erratic.

Anonymous said...

Your comments have become unintelligible. Try taking a break before you have a breakdown.

Myballs said...

Because Mueller is registered republican, that means he didn't stack his team with trump hating democrats?

And Rudy is right. The duke lacrosse team told the truth and were called liars.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

That is completely false.

Loretta said...

"And Rudy is right. The duke lacrosse team told the truth and were called liars."

Completely TRUE.

No Duke lacrosse player committed any crime against the mentally imbalanced accuser, Crystal Mangum. The DNA evidence did not match any of the three players, but it showed that other men had been with Mangum in the week before the incident.


Loretta said...

Good job President Trump, every little bit helps.

"French energy giant Total officially pulls out of Iran

https://m.dw.com/en/french-energy-giant-total-officially-pulls-out-of-iran/a-45150849?xtref=http%253A%252F%252Fm.facebook.com%252F

Anonymous said...

ICE captured this Nazi and Pres. Trump Deported him back to Germany. Socialist Democrats are pssed off.

"MAINZ, Germany — The last known Nazi collaborator living in the U.S. was deported to Germany overnight.

Jakiw Palij, 95, had lived in New York City for decades. He served as a guard at a Nazi forced labor camp during the Second World War."

"Nazi collaborator Jakiw Palij is deported from U.S. to Germany
"I would never have received my visa if I told the truth. Everyone lied," the SS-trained guard told Justice Department investigators in 1993.
by Carlo Angerer / Aug.21.2018 / 9:29 AM ET / Updated 10:00 AM ET"

Anonymous said...

Good job President Trump, every little bit helps. " Ette

Yrs, obama gave that terrorist nation billions in freaking cash. AND allowed them access to world financial markets.

Pres. Trump is shutting off that access as well.

commie said...

Loretta said...
"And Rudy is right. The duke lacrosse team told the truth and were called liars."

and the truth set them free and the overzealous prosecutor took it up the ass......

commie said...

Yrs, obama gave that terrorist nation billions in freaking cash.

And busch invaded Iraq with thousands KIA, billions of freaking debt for our children.....idiot Keep slurping...the end is near!!!

commie said...

And our idiot in chief continues to push Putin is a friend...can't fix stupid!!


Microsoft shuts down Russian operation targeting U.S. political institutions
The technology giant said hackers created phony versions of websites meant to look like real sites used by the Senate and Washington nonprofit organizations. Among those targeted was a conservative think tank active in investigations of corruption in Russia, Microsoft said.

Anonymous said...

Denise how did your parole meeting go?

Obama did nothing to deport the Nazi for 8 years.

Trump got him deported back to Germany in 1 1/2 years.

Winning.

Iran was given new broad access to world financial system by Obama.

commie said...

May not be a record year statistically, but the heat continues around the world....and the deniers still think it is a hoax....correct menstral????

All-time record heat assaulted northern Europe, western Africa, portions of southern Asia, and California, helping make July 2018 the planet's fourth-warmest July since record keeping began in 1880, said NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) on Monday. NASA rated July 2018 as the third-warmest July on record, with the only warmer July months coming in 2016 and 2017. Occasional differences in rankings between NASA and NOAA arise mostly due to how they handle data-sparse regions such as the Arctic, where few surface weather stations exist.

Global ocean temperatures during July 2018 were the sixth warmest on record, and global land temperatures were the fifth warmest on record, according to NOAA. Global satellite-measured temperatures in July 2018 for the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere were the fourth warmest in the 40-year record, according to the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH) and RSS.

The year-to-date period of January РJuly now ranks as the fourth warmest on record, and it is increasingly likely that the five warmest years on record globally will be 2014 through 2018. If an El Ni̱o develops later this year, as predicted, that will give 2019 a very good chance of joining the pack. Barring a massive volcanic eruption, global temperature seems to be headed in one direction, and it isn't downward.

commie said...

Obama did nothing to deport the Nazi for 8 years.

And trump said there were good nozi's....since you got fired....were you able to collect unemployment right away????

Anonymous said...

Denise admits, Obama did nothing to deport this known Nazi.

The rest of his normal spit.

The earth has been warming since the end of the last ice age.

commie said...

, Obama did nothing to deport this known Nazi.

Really asshole? Since you admitted you gor fired, what was the reason....posting on blogs at work????? IDIOT... KEEP
SLURPING!!!

n warming since the end of the last ice age.

Another lie, but so what.....asshole...

commie said...

Looks to me busch was the fuck up....but you blame obama like the trump chump you are...

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents implemented a 2004 deportation order against Jakiw Palij, who immigrated to the United States in 1949 and became a citizen in 1957 after concealing his Nazi background, the statement read.

Anonymous said...

Trump today will Erase more of the obimbo's restriction on our mines and energy producers.

commie said...

obimbo's restriction on our mines and energy producers.

And increase the rate of GW....brilliant strategy that you will slurp up...burn a tree for christ!!!! Glad you admitted to the reason I gave for your firing...... goofing off at work is you MO....LOLOLOL I also note you ignored NOC prices the past couple of days....why is that asshole????? going in the wrong direction for you to make asshole comments on....remember, you recommended Penney and said wages were increasing at an astonishing rate....Idiotr...

Anonymous said...

Total Company leave a 5 billion dollar deal.

Ette, this is a huge hit for Iran and Obama.

Anonymous said...

Denise, what do you do to reduce your massive impact on earth?

Anonymous said...

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents implemented a 2004 deportation order against Jakiw Palij, "

He sat there and obimbo the banana eater did nothing.

Democrats today would not have ICE as an organization in law enforcement. This Arrest would not happen if Dems get thier way.

Loretta said...

"Obama did nothing to deport the Nazi for 8 years.

Trump got him deported back to Germany in 1 1/2 years."

Speckless W did nothing for years, TOO.

Good riddance. FINALLY.

Loretta said...

"Democrats today would not have ICE as an organization in law enforcement. This Arrest would not happen if Dems get thier way."

TRUE.

Myballs said...

Wow.

Rand Paul just ripped into John Brennen big time.

Big networks won't cover it though.

Anonymous said...


Blogger Roger Amick said...

Muller is obviously not in panic mode. As usual we don't get leaks from the investigation.



i'm not surprised that you can't make the connection between the cessation of the leaks and a couple of dozen government scumbags getting fired or resigning.

Myballs said...

More good news...

In addition to pelosi refusing to step aside for new dems party leadership, now we have Hillary back out there doing fundraisers for the party. We will see more dems unhappy about this than repubs. She's like the house guest who won't leave.

Anonymous said...




now we have Hillary back out there doing fundraisers for the party.


let's just hope for her sake that there's a wheelchair ramp at every venue.

no wonder the alky is enthralled with her. they're both drunks who need ambulatory assistance.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

Far from it unless my fear of seeing the country descends into a banana republic dictatorship matters.

His tweets were getting incresingly erratic.



boy alky, in the land of psychological projectionists, you are their queen.

trump's tweets are trump's tweets, pal. increasingly erratic? not to those of us who don't view every day through the prism of TDS.

one thing's for sure... every tweet he sends triggers you into fucking coo-coo's nest mode.

trump's just being trump. you? he's driven you fucking insane.

oh, and banana republic? can you give at least one legitimate example of trump even coming close to leading us down that path?

just one, alky.

Anonymous said...

Comey cashed in on his insider information as did Brennan.

Personal enrichment at the cost of the Republic.

Brennan called Pres. Trump a "Traitor"

What is his version of the truth?

Anonymous said...

RRB, TY for exposing the bottom feeders Tweets.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Treasury showed what no president ever wants to admit: The deficit is spiking. The federal government’s red ink this year is already 21 percent above what it was in 2017, and there are few prospects that the bottom line will improve anytime soon.

Anonymous said...

Give us the spiking of Deficits by your banana eater vs President Trump.
All years Twit, no cherry pick'n.

Anonymous said...

Alky, in your own words.
"can you give at least one legitimate example of trump even coming close to leading us down that path?" RRB

Denise had to go eat his 2nd breakfast.

Anonymous said...

Roger you made a really solid case the Banana Eater left Pres. Trump. "A near recession".

Anonymous said...

Here Alky,

2009 $1,413
2010 $1,294
2011 $1,300
2012 $1,087


Anonymous said...




Blogger Roger Amick said...

Treasury showed what no president ever wants to admit: The deficit is spiking. The federal government’s red ink this year is already 21 percent above what it was in 2017, and there are few prospects that the bottom line will improve anytime soon.



you see?

this is why we need to elect a republican president every so often. so that the left notices our deficit and debt.

this is like being on safari, watching mutual of omaha's wild kingdom...

"and here we see the american liberal alcoholic in its natural habitat, emerging from 8 years of hibernation."


i have news for you alky, it's the spending side of the ledger that has fucked us. your great society, nanny state entitlements consume two-thirds of the budget. you guys really need to find a much cheaper method to buy votes. the current method is not sustainable. and raising taxes? fuck you. i'm not your fucking piggy bank.



commie said...

Denise had to go eat his 2nd breakfast.

And have you ever come close to telling the truth????? Mr. 4.6% wage growth???? Spiking deficits for the party that used to hate deficits is most amusing....the only conservative thing on your side is saying the word....so sad, your kids will now enjoy trump chump debt....and you slurp away....what about that reason for your permanent layoff????

commie said...

, it's the spending side of the ledger that has fucked us.

I now know why you flunked out of ag school.....yeah it has and the tax cuts for the elite.....are doing the rest...that's why we need D potus...A D was the last on to have a balanced budget.....

Anonymous said...




good catch, KD -

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/nazi-collaborator-jakiw-palij-arrested-new-york-deported-germany-n902441


hey alky,

if trump is literally hitler times infinity, why is he deporting nazi's that previous administrations allowed to live freely in the US?

i mean, if you're going to start your own banana republic, you need nazi's right?

Anonymous said...



Denise had to go eat his 2nd breakfast.

he must be in training for his next stroke.


Anonymous said...

I am one of the "Elite" my taxes are lower.

Dennis your team wants to raise my taxes.

I vote against your team.

Anonymous said...

President Trump is having to deal with the Dumping of debt from the US Federal Reserve of Debt collected during The Lost Years Endless QE.

Anonymous said...

RRB, slaying Socialist Dims.

"if trump is literally hitler times infinity, why is he deporting nazi's that previous administrations allowed to live freely in the US?

i mean, if you're going to start your own banana republic, you need nazi's right?"

Anonymous said...

Blogger KD said...
I am one of the "Elite" my taxes are lower.

Dennis your team wants to raise my taxes.



here in NY we have a ringside seat to a liberal governor doing everything in his power to help the .01% elite richie riches keep their beloved SALT deduction.

now why would an avowed liberal who is purportedly an enemy of the rich and an advocate for the poor take a stance like that?

perhaps he doesn't want to lose another million NY'ers to other states?

Anonymous said...




hey alky,

liberals have re-named your vag -


For the purposes of this guide, we’ll refer to the vagina as the “front hole” instead of solely using the medical term “vagina.” This is gender-inclusive language that’s considerate of the fact that some trans people don’t identify with the labels the medical community attaches to their genitals.

https://www.healthline.com/health/lgbtqia-safe-sex-guide#sexual-orientation


commie said...

I am one of the "Elite" my taxes are lower.

HORSESHIT!!!!!! Is being stupid all you got????

And yes.....everyone should pay their fair share, especially leeches like you who add nothing to society as a whole because they are too fucking lazy to find a real job .....asshole

commie said...

here in NY we have a ringside seat to a liberal governor...

there ya go....whatever you think rectum.....how successful has he been with SALT?.....I know my LI resident sister does nothing but complain about him,......Her property taxes are 16k a year for a 2k ranch even in retirement don't do squat for NY state taxes.....


he US Federal Reserve of Debt collected during The Lost Years Endless QE.

Yeah, driven by the income reduction from the busch depression....

Anonymous said...




Monday, August 20, 2018

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, a hopeful for the Democratic Party’s 2020 presidential nomination, said recently, “We’re not going to make America great again. It was never that great.” One-in-five Democrats agree, but a sizable majority of all voters thinks he was off-base.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 67% of Likely U.S. Voters disagree with Cuomo’s statement. Seventeen percent (17%) agree, while just as many (16%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/august_2018/67_disagree_with_cuomo_about_america_s_greatness


Anonymous said...




As jurors deliberate the fate of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, it’s a bit of a letdown for Trump critics that Manafort wasn’t charged with anything having to do with alleged Russia collusion in the 2016 presidential campaign. So what’s his prosecution all about?

To understand, it helps to know a bit more about the murky universe in which Manafort and his closest colleagues operated.

It’s illegal for foreigners to directly give money to U.S. politicians and political parties. But there’s a legal way around that. Believe it or not, foreigners — even Russian President Vladimir Putin or North Korean President Kim Jong Un — are permitted to pay big money to hire well-connected U.S. public relations firms, law firms and lobbyists to act as their “foreign agents.” From Afghanistan to Zimbabwe, more than 15,000 foreign entities have hired thousands of Americans to do just that.

[...]

In the end, if Manafort’s primary alleged crime was acting as a foreign agent, his real issue was failing to register sooner. If he’d done so, he’d arguably be much like thousands of other U.S. foreign agents paid to influence our politicians and public opinion in a way that’s perfectly legal.

Whether it should be is open to debate.



http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/402660-What-crime-did-Manafort-allegedly-commit%3F



un-fucking-real.

manafort is facing 300+ years in prison because mueller is desperate for a scalp.


Anonymous said...




trump is such a fucking racist...

African American business owners are on the rise. According to the Minority 2018 Small Business Trends survey, the number of black-owned small businesses in the U.S. increased by a staggering 400% in a year-over-year time period from 2017 to 2018.

http://www.blackenterprise.com/black-business-ownership-400-year/

Anonymous said...

Dennis agreed. Ok. Next issue.

US Federal Reserve of Debt collected during The Lost Years Endless QE.

"Yeah" Dennis Parolee

Anonymous said...

This is what the Socialist Party of Polosi/Schumer/Cortez fear.
Cool find RRB

"African American business owners are on the rise. According to the Minority 2018 Small Business Trends survey, the number of black-owned small businesses in the U.S. increased by a staggering 400% in a year-over-year time period from 2017 to 2018."

commie said...

KD said...
Dennis agreed. Ok. Next issue.

What are you smoking asshole...The only thing I agree with you is that you are a lazy fucking loser who got fired because of goofing off at work....goat fucker....

Anonymous said...

Lol, actually:
Dennis agreed. Ok. Next issue.

US Federal Reserve of Debt collected during The Lost Years Endless QE.

"Yeah" Dennis Parolee

Anonymous said...

I almost missed this "truth" from Lard Denise.

"busch depression"

Historically wrong.