tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post2789295350671930038..comments2024-01-02T04:15:58.292-06:00Comments on The Coldheartedtruth: Google fires the employee who criticized diversity policy... C.H. Truthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-35892934943116287282017-08-09T08:48:45.212-05:002017-08-09T08:48:45.212-05:00Within our time frame, say the last 40 years or so...Within our time frame, say the last 40 years or so, no I do not agree that his memo reflected mainstream views of psychology.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure that it would play well on "All in the Family" though.wphamiltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-66815040951796855662017-08-09T07:45:09.375-05:002017-08-09T07:45:09.375-05:00Whether the memo was accurate or inoffensive is no...Whether the memo was accurate or inoffensive is not the issue. <br /><br />Google has stated publically that it's a diverse company that encourages a "free exchange of ideas". <br /><br />However most of their employees feared that if they ever express a view outside the politically correct , SWJ, leftist culture of the company, they would be fired. <br /><br />And they were correct. Commonsensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611062965687173944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-59103927910551913632017-08-09T07:25:50.039-05:002017-08-09T07:25:50.039-05:00Anonymous Indy Voter said...
The memo didn't r...<br />Anonymous Indy Voter said...<br />The memo didn't read like a sociology paper. The author was far too willing to make sweeping generalizations about gender<br /><br />Like I said before, it read like a CH pos... lots of words, most of it BS...but our esteemed host defends the conservative view....opienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-82378140941745335222017-08-08T20:08:34.879-05:002017-08-08T20:08:34.879-05:00The memo didn't read like a sociology paper. ...The memo didn't read like a sociology paper. The author was far too willing to make sweeping generalizations about gender. That he (usually) qualified these in the following paragraph with statements that the generalization he had just made didn't apply to everyone of that gender, he kept piling on with more and more generalizations. And his conclusions only reinforced the generalizations, as I saw it.<br /><br />I'm not sure if the guy was secretly trying to get fired, as WP suggests, but he really doesn't know how (or want) to make arguments in a manner that promotes discussion.Indy Voternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-10436881612617377952017-08-08T17:05:38.126-05:002017-08-08T17:05:38.126-05:00Run that by your wife. We will send you flowers to...<b>Run that by your wife. We will send you flowers to your hospital room.</b><br /><br />Many of my wife's friends are what she calls "devs" who work in the tech industry. She was told at one time she had a career if she wanted to go to Microsoft and teach all of the anti-social males how to interact with women. How to dress around them, how to ask for dates, etc. <br /><br />She knows first hand that there is a certain "type" of person (mostly males) who seem to thrive in that specific industry. There is nothing offensive about it. <br /><br />You are also old enough to know that these stereotypes are ingrained into the culture of many people. Both historically and globally in 2017, this guy's opinion would be mainstream... and the opinion of google (and the gender equal society arguments) would be a very small minority view. <br /><br />C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-24953328176552942042017-08-08T17:03:40.424-05:002017-08-08T17:03:40.424-05:00Trump just gave praise to Mueller for being fair a...Trump just gave praise to Mueller for being fair and just look at this without right now take a look. Because it a Witch Hunt then he praises the guy, its online right now look for it. I'm busy. You don't want to know why.:-)Coldheartedtruth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441230118917524072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-80925618026118171382017-08-08T17:00:18.044-05:002017-08-08T17:00:18.044-05:00But I found it online, read it, and it really did ...<b>But I found it online, read it, and it really did promote demeaning gender stereotypes. </b><br /><br />But WP... I assume you are in my age bracket. You must understand that the opinions that this person expressed (right, wrong, or indifferent)... were at one time very mainstream opinions within the sociology and psychology realm. <br /><br />It seems (to me) that while they may appear to be demeaning... and they are certainly a stereotype, I wonder (out loud) how it is that these stereotypes existed and still exist in nearly every culture throughout history. There have always been both physical and emotional differences between the sexes.<br /><br />Just because those difference offend people today... or just because some want us to live in some genderless society... doesn't make the opinion obsolete (which is what is seemingly being argued here).<br /><br />____<br /><br />That being said, you probably are correct when you state that he may have been looking to be fired. Within all of what I would suggest was reasonable, he did push the limits with his manifest.<br /><br />I know people who have had the same issues working with Microsoft and other big tech industries (out in Seattle where I spend a great deal of time). They drive their employees hard and they expect them to fit into a particular box (even as they suggest differently). Of course, ironically nearly everyone I know in those industries are independent working, antisocial males (a couple who are autistic), who specifically got into the tech industry exactly for the reasons this guy states men flourish in the tech. C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-36293494958988544322017-08-08T16:59:59.164-05:002017-08-08T16:59:59.164-05:00This isn't a freedom of speech issue. An inter...This isn't a freedom of speech issue. An internal memo, saying that women are born unable to be engineers. Statements inside the company are not protected by the First Amendment rights.<br /><br />Run that by your wife. We will send you flowers to your hospital room.<br /><br />My lovely Panamanian Queen would use a machete.Coldheartedtruth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441230118917524072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-51945993733175647472017-08-08T16:50:50.810-05:002017-08-08T16:50:50.810-05:00If you think this is not offensive, CH, you really...<b>If you think this is not offensive, CH, you really need help.</b><br /><br />It doesn't matter if you or I find it offensive or not. It's an opinion. One that up until very recently has been tied to mainstream sociology and psychology. There were many studies on the subject of gender specific strengths and weaknesses... what he is stating is actually what many of these studies (right wrong or indifferent) found to be factual. <br /><br />We can pretend all we want that there is no differences between the genders. If you made the same argument that men are taller and weigh more (with some overlap) would that be an offensive argument to make in spite of obviously being 100% true?<br /><br />Why does the argument that women are more cooperative, while men are more competitive... that women work better in social situation, where men work better independently... that women do not define themselves (or their success) by their careers as much as men do... have to be offensive?<br /><br />If you believe it to be wrong... then argue differently. But you refuse to even argue it. You simply demand that the entire argument go away because you are offended. <br /><br />What is it like to live in a constant state of emotional turmoil because the world is full of so many opinions that don't align with yours, Opie? I feel so bad for those of you who are so intolerant that those who disagree with you have to be punished and cast out. <br /> C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-37163656928920388232017-08-08T15:49:03.922-05:002017-08-08T15:49:03.922-05:00We always ask why we don’t see women in top leader...We always ask why we don’t see women in top leadership positions, but we never ask why we see so many men in these jobs. These positions often require long, stressful hours that may not be worth it if you want a balanced and fulfilling life.<br /><br />If you think this is not offensive, CH, you really need help.<br /><br />opienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-41435370571439512762017-08-08T15:35:29.879-05:002017-08-08T15:35:29.879-05:00Did you actually read the memo yourself?
It was ...Did you actually read the memo yourself? <br /><br />It was a pile shit, just like most or your threads...<br /><br />a male dominated field is also irrelevant.<br /><br />And so is your comment. The asshole got what he deserved, right wrong or irrelevant. If you were stupid enough to publish that piece where you ply your trade, my guess you would have been canned also. And any of your rationalization as to relevance, would be interesting discussion as HR walked you out. Can't fix idiocyopienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-35380050936311980522017-08-08T15:30:37.317-05:002017-08-08T15:30:37.317-05:00I dunno CH, I was prepared to entertain a perspect...I dunno CH, I was prepared to entertain a perspective like yours on Google firing the engineer who wrote the memo. But I found it online, read it, and it really did promote demeaning gender stereotypes. <br /><br />I think he was reacting to a corporate culture that he had difficulty tolerating, and he was asking, or demanding, to get fired. There is more than meets the eye here, but even on the surface of it I can't argue with Google firing him. And by the way, from what I've read previously about Google I wouldn't fit in either and I'd probably be miserable in their culture. Their emphasis on "diversity" is in fact surprising, given their reputation for a pervasive age bias, and the penchant for pitting employees against each other. It looks to me like this guy had enough, and his memo was a parting manifesto.wphamiltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-73202807353198352012017-08-08T15:13:38.823-05:002017-08-08T15:13:38.823-05:00Even cnn poll, taken after the ibd poll, has trump...Even cnn poll, taken after the ibd poll, has trump ad 38%. But leave it to James to post an older poll because he likes the lower number.Myballs seeing America become great againnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-76660644158680119492017-08-08T15:02:35.418-05:002017-08-08T15:02:35.418-05:00When you have nothing else, hang on to a poll. When you have nothing else, hang on to a poll. Commonsensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611062965687173944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-85220071236034524352017-08-08T14:47:51.559-05:002017-08-08T14:47:51.559-05:00You know what I like about polls, they seem to hav...You know what I like about polls, they seem to have great meaning to the losers.<br /><br />Yet, actual winning an election, no so much.<br /><br />If you find comfort in polling enjoy, I take comfort in winning elections.KD,noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-68659684131554877142017-08-08T14:42:27.765-05:002017-08-08T14:42:27.765-05:00Oh and just to piss off the losers known as the Th...Oh and just to piss off the losers known as the Three little Liberal Stooges, that JOLTS report is the highest in 12 years, so much for the lost years, very forgettable and President Trump is easily erasing them.<br /><br />You know those never wrong Intelligence guys of the USA just told us NK already has nukes, got them in the last 4 years, now their is a legacy , thanks Water Carrier Obimbo the trained monkey.KD, NK already has Nukes thanks to the do nothing Obamanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-35753714768307755022017-08-08T14:41:36.603-05:002017-08-08T14:41:36.603-05:00A new IBD/TIPP poll finds President Trump’s approv...A new IBD/TIPP poll finds President Trump’s approval rate at a dismal 32% to 59%.Pollsternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-53221100965825626572017-08-08T14:34:04.745-05:002017-08-08T14:34:04.745-05:00JOLTS Report, Joining in on this Humming Economy
...JOLTS Report, Joining in on this Humming Economy<br /><br />"Job openings rose sharply in June, to 6.163 million from 5.702 million in May"<br /><br />Yep as more business profit they expand, needing more workers, welfare interlopers leave the Hammock for a paycheck, reducing the need to fund Welfare at Obama Levels and so it goes a new healthy economy.KD, Credit for this Economy goes to ---- The US Business Owners and worker beesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-42633737341801630662017-08-08T14:27:43.180-05:002017-08-08T14:27:43.180-05:00The small business optimism index rose 1.6 points ...The small business optimism index rose 1.6 points in July to 105.2"<br /><br />Racing past the lost years, erasing them one stat at a time.<br /><br /><br />What a dump HB admitted he lives in, but when called on it he dance, dodge attempted to restate but the damage was done, he lives, if that is what you can call it in a 1,100 sq ft "home", the US Average is 2,400 Square feet.<br /><br />Mr 1,100KD, So much Winning, but aint' no way tir'dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-48165642533696879832017-08-08T13:12:35.823-05:002017-08-08T13:12:35.823-05:00"Yep...the obama economy chugs on at levels y..."Yep...the obama economy chugs on at levels you all complained about 6 months ago...What changed????? LOLOL "<br /><br />Besides cutting unnecessary regulations right and left, enforcing border security, engaging companies to come back to America, to have a pro-business agenda, fighting against the Obamacare health insurance scam, and working on a fairer tax code I guess not much.<br /><br />ROFLMFAO !!!JAMES'S FUCKING DADDYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-52149518798788873702017-08-08T12:51:29.709-05:002017-08-08T12:51:29.709-05:00I am curious, Opie...
Did you actually read the m...I am curious, Opie...<br /><br />Did you actually read the memo yourself? <br /><br />I does little more than make an argument that has been made by many sociologists and others over the years. That there are genetic differences between men and women that tend to create differences in priorities and differences in their choice of work. <br /><br />Whether or not you agree that Women tend to be more social, are better working cooperatively, and tend to be more interested in life balance... while men tend to be more independent, competitive, and tend to favor the status of career success to other aspects of their lives... is irrelevant.<br /><br />Whether or not you agree that these differences tend to make technical jobs (such as computer coding and development) more of a male dominated field is also irrelevant.<br /><br />But it may be a 'better' explanation than the concept that there is some sort of inherent hiring discrimination against women that is creating the gap between men and women in the tech industry. There seems to be little evidence of any discrimination where there is a quite of bit of evidence that more men simply "choose" to train themselves in the technical field than women do. <br /><br />Bottom line is that one does not have to agree or disagree with this particular argument that there are genetic differences in social behavior between the sexes. But to pretend that it's not a legitimate argument (given that it historically has been accepted as a status quo fact) is a little hard to take seriously. <br /><br />Lastly - Just because someone take offense to the argument, doesn't mean that it's unacceptable to make. <br />C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-71989641357069662932017-08-08T12:32:37.914-05:002017-08-08T12:32:37.914-05:00O'Jane,,, here is my answer , you believe that...O'Jane,,, here is my answer , you believe that nothing has changed since President Trump has taken over, ok.KDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-52608498003066423972017-08-08T12:20:43.021-05:002017-08-08T12:20:43.021-05:00oretta said...
He keeps forgetting LOL LOL LOL LOL...oretta said...<br />He keeps forgetting LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL. <br /><br />Typical Russian commie.<br /><br />Bucket injin cunt lapper returns with her typical idiotic nothing to add post. Don't you get tired of the same inane post or are you expecting a different response. You really are fucking stupid and you give your race a bad name.....LOL Stupid assopienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-34731309711776774432017-08-08T12:11:11.473-05:002017-08-08T12:11:11.473-05:00He keeps forgetting LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LO...He keeps forgetting LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL. <br /><br />Typical Russian commie. Loretta https://www.blogger.com/profile/03888424844344384091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-44639546711507269752017-08-08T12:00:48.596-05:002017-08-08T12:00:48.596-05:00Wow Opie, all that hate and bile. Must suck to be ...Wow Opie, all that hate and bile. Must suck to be you. Commonsensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611062965687173944noreply@blogger.com