tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post4466400124548112549..comments2024-01-02T04:15:58.292-06:00Comments on The Coldheartedtruth: Ex-NSA Head and Trump critic:C.H. Truthhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-36738780249047399152016-08-12T08:20:41.393-05:002016-08-12T08:20:41.393-05:00I too am convinced that Trump was not "seriou...I too am convinced that Trump was not "seriously" calling for an assassination attempt. But he sure was "jokingly" hinting at it. And so crossed a line.<br /><br />Anyone's whose Mother Tongue is English understands that.<br /><br />And as for what the Secret Service said to Trump/and/ or his campaign, they would of course not make public. <br /><br />But they DID state that they spoke to him/them about it.<br /><br />Wonder why. Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-19719685698094264432016-08-11T22:09:23.332-05:002016-08-11T22:09:23.332-05:00Or you don't understand political motivation J...Or you don't understand political motivation James.Commonsensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611062965687173944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-65824893365607480352016-08-11T19:00:09.471-05:002016-08-11T19:00:09.471-05:00Quite honestly James, I have not been, am not now,...Quite honestly James, I have not been, am not now, and never will be convinced by you or anyone that Trump was calling for an Assassination attempt.<br />_________________<br /><br />I guess the bailers-out on Trump understand simple English.Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-74257622242421208152016-08-11T17:50:37.714-05:002016-08-11T17:50:37.714-05:00
Quite honestly James, I have not been, am not now...<br />Quite honestly James, I have not been, am not now, and never will be convinced by you or anyone <br /><br />Just like science and GW. Sad CH, a shadow of your former self. opie'noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-32137123820575626512016-08-11T15:08:30.796-05:002016-08-11T15:08:30.796-05:00The whole idea that someone is responsible for the...The whole idea that someone is responsible for the thoughts in another's head fly's in the face of the constitution as well as 1500 years of English Common Law.<br /><br />For anyone to proposed such insanity, has to have TDS.Commonsensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01611062965687173944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-83985777152535486092016-08-11T13:24:26.515-05:002016-08-11T13:24:26.515-05:00James, according to Reuters, Federal sources say t...James, according to Reuters, Federal sources say that there was no formal discussions with the Trump campaign. Other sources(CNN) who have suggested as such, cannot provide any specific information as to who from the ss or Trump campaign was involved.<br /><br />Quite honestly James, I have not been, am not now, and never will be convinced by you or anyone that Trump was calling for an Assassination attempt. C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-4569066420221056172016-08-11T12:17:42.332-05:002016-08-11T12:17:42.332-05:00Why did the Secret Service speak to the Trump camp...Why did the Secret Service speak to the Trump campaign about his 2nd Amendment remark if if was so innocuous, Ch? Wp?Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-44330822156899900272016-08-11T12:08:26.663-05:002016-08-11T12:08:26.663-05:00Wp and Ch, you both KNOWINGLY distort what Trump a...Wp and Ch, you both KNOWINGLY distort what Trump actually said.<br /><br />Thank goodness a lot of Republicans had and have enough simple, common integrity to get upset by the obvious meaning of his words.Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-15009781000496544772016-08-11T10:57:59.093-05:002016-08-11T10:57:59.093-05:00James,
You keep quoting Trump as if reading the ...James, <br /><br />You keep quoting Trump as if reading the words again will change someone's opinion?<br /><br />If you read it a thousand times, would it change your opinion? If not, why would you assume it would change someone else's. <br /><br />Besides the fact that words on paper generally don't pick up context expression, or the demeaner of the person speaking, or the reaction of the crowd. <br /><br />For instance the transcript of Trump talking about the Russians and Hillary's emails looked one way. But it was different when you saw him say it and the press laughed. C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-60486979070847246642016-08-11T10:15:33.084-05:002016-08-11T10:15:33.084-05:00For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth sp...For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.<br /><br />What is in the heart James, of someone who speaks only lies and for her own benefit over others? Or who ridicules and demeans when he or she hears the truth?<br /><br />The answer to the question I asked you the other day is: the Devil is the father of lies. Who are his children?wphamiltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-40722474035461146532016-08-11T08:40:50.174-05:002016-08-11T08:40:50.174-05:00Wp says Trump's remark "wasn't rabble...Wp says Trump's remark "wasn't rabble rousing."<br />In that, Wp reveals that he (Wp) has a serious brain problem.Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-64620219800125045652016-08-11T07:55:00.162-05:002016-08-11T07:55:00.162-05:00If I were Wp, Ch, I might accuse you of being &quo...If I were Wp, Ch, I might accuse you of being "the Father of Lies."<br /><br />Desperately searching for a way out of the fact that my simple logic demolishes your lack of logic, you misquote me. <br /><br />You say I referred to Trump's "veiled insinuation" when that is not what I said. <br /><br />I referred to his "not so veiled insinuation."<br /><br />Obviously the man did not say, "Take your guns, you 2nd Amendment loving folks, and go and shoot Hillary." <br /><br />Even he is not crazy enough for that. <br /><br />But what he DID say is this<br />(and the parts below in brackets are more than implied:<br /><br />TRUMP: <br />“If she GETS [ELECTED AND GETS] TO PICK HER JUDGES [AS PRESIDENT], NOTHING YOU CAN DO FOLKS. Although [FOR] the second amendment people [with all your guns], MAYBE THERE IS [SOMETHING YOU CAN DO]."<br /><br />And then, as if realizing he has gone too far, he adds, "I don't know" as of this not so veiled threat should not be taken too seriously.<br /><br />The indignant response from both Democrats and Republicans and Independents and everyone escept his most fanatic supporters == the indignant reponse to his offhand remark is exactly what it should be.<br /><br />Even to joke about the assassination of a potential President is beyond the pale, beyond anything that should be said.<br /><br />This man is in no way fit to be President. He is in no way presidential timber, as even you and Wp know.<br /><br />Of course, if he still wants to get into politics after his defeat (or withdrawal), he could still be an excellent Grand Klavern of the Ku Klux Klan.<br />Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-45241932961465894732016-08-10T18:24:39.828-05:002016-08-10T18:24:39.828-05:00James....
So in your first paragraph you offer th...James....<br /><br />So in your first paragraph you offer that the only explanation was a "veiled insinuation" regarding assassination.<br /><br />Then in your response to WP you offer that a completely different explanation of a more obvious joke might be reasonable. <br /><br />You contradict yourself in one comment. C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-60164589521522512902016-08-10T17:22:48.625-05:002016-08-10T17:22:48.625-05:00I repeat what I said above. There is really no ot...I repeat what I said above. There is really no other reasonable interpretation for Trump's words.<br /><br />So much for Ch.<br />____________<br /><br />As for Wp, I'm willing to grant that in a way Trump didn't mean it as a serious encouragement to shoot Hillary. He meant it as SORT OF a joke.<br /><br />But the point of much of the outraged response is precisely this: THAT'S not something ANYone should joke about, not even Trump. Despite all his crassness and insensitivity, even he should know that.<br /><br />What if, in the near future, Hillary WERE to be assassinated? <br /><br /><br />Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-86258537502063835872016-08-10T16:16:01.080-05:002016-08-10T16:16:01.080-05:00Problem Roger,
That's not my quote. Even if i...<br />Problem Roger,<br /><br />That's not my quote. Even if it was, what sane person would describe this as going nuts. C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-83748879265103967592016-08-10T16:03:36.703-05:002016-08-10T16:03:36.703-05:00"We all remember that Robert Kennedy was kill..."We all remember that Robert Kennedy was killed last June in California."<br /><br />Next CH, the RNC has been losing staff because of Donald Trump. In recent months, deputy press secretary James Hewitt, spokesman Fred Brown, director of Hispanic media Ruth Guerra, and research analysts Lars Trautman and Colin Spence have all left the RNC with Trump as one of the reasons for their resignations, according to sources familiar with their decisions. At least three other staff members have also left the RNC with opposition to Trump as a contributing factor.Coldheartedtruth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441230118917524072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-697707008867625302016-08-10T15:59:02.100-05:002016-08-10T15:59:02.100-05:00This wasn't incitement to a shooting, obviousl...This wasn't incitement to a shooting, obviously. It wasn't clever, but it wasn't rabble-rousing either.wphamiltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-39068496866854625052016-08-10T15:56:52.302-05:002016-08-10T15:56:52.302-05:00It's weird how people get frightened when some...It's weird how people get frightened when someone mentions "Second Amendment people." I think it's more about the basic idea of people owning guns.<br /><br />Actually the hue and cry is a slur on gun-owners. As if just mentioning them as a group is to incite them to trigger-happy mayhem. Consider, would you have the same reaction if he suggested that Labor Union people do something about her? The Sierra Club? Why not, since they own guns just like everyone else, and probably aren't as level-headed as most "2nd Amendment people" are. So it's just the idea that Trump is trying to stir up people who like guns, not that he's calling for an assassination, and it's an insult to law abiding citizens.<br /><br />What did Trump really mean, God only knows. He thought it was funny before, talking about shooting someone in the street, so maybe he thought that a double-entendre was funny. At least to stir up the liberals, and that always good for a laugh from his crowd. But inciting a shooting - that's just being silly.wphamiltonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-44391282027098510602016-08-10T15:27:15.401-05:002016-08-10T15:27:15.401-05:00I don't know James...
When a Presidential Can...I don't know James...<br /><br />When a Presidential Candidate asks for action from a political group... I generally believe they are referring to political activism, including donations and voting.<br /><br />And if "anyone" (much less some Trump critic) can make sense of everything Trump says in such a way that he/she believes it's not even open to other interpretation... I would offer that this person is bat shit crazy or smoking crack.C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-56776818184009045612016-08-10T14:51:29.221-05:002016-08-10T14:51:29.221-05:00"I don't know."
See how he was back..."I don't know." <br />See how he was backing away from it a little even as he said it?"<br /><br />No I don't. You must have never heard him speak in your life prior to that innocent statement, It is his way of speaking.<br /><br />Jane, can you tell us what was your take away when you learned as I did for the first time, both HER> and Biden threatened Obama??<br /><br /><br />KD, 1.7 Trillion in Savings Sheltered by Elite Investorsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-88719292603364746862016-08-10T14:42:50.767-05:002016-08-10T14:42:50.767-05:00Speaking of taking a reality check, Ch:
When Trum...Speaking of taking a reality check, Ch:<br /><br />When Trump said what he said, he was not talking about a candidate for President, but about someone who had already become President and thus could "pick" Supreme Court Justices (something a candidate cannot do.)<br /><br />Trump then speculated that there was something "2nd Amendment people" could do to stop her from picking such Justices.<br /><br />Assassination come to mind?<br /><br />I repeat, Trump was not calling for action at the ballot box to stop Clinton, because once she is President she can pick or appoint Supreme Court Justices -- and there is nothing 2nd Amendment people can do to stop her unless it is by exercising their 2nd Amendment right to bear arms and ... and do what?<br /><br />Yep. The words are clear.<br /><br />TRUMP: “If she GETS TO PICK HER JUDGES, NOTHING YOU CAN DO FOLKS. Although the second amendment people, MAYBE THERE IS, I don't know."<br /><br />"I don't know." <br />See how he was backing away from it a little even as he said it?<br /><br />Again, it is simple: <br /><br />When Trump spoke of Clinton "picking" judges, that was an obvious admission that she had already won the election! If she was selecting judges, she was the President, and mobilizing 2nd amendment right voters to the polls would be useless because THE ELECTION WAS OVER. <br /><br />What else could Trump possibly have been talking about except assassinating Clinton? <br /><br />Assassinating her pick of Justices?<br /><br />Brother!Honest, decent, truthful Rev.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08265071823922688094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-7869034535154218252016-08-10T14:42:44.718-05:002016-08-10T14:42:44.718-05:00Perfectly acceptable. Clinton brought up the RFK a...Perfectly acceptable. Clinton brought up the RFK assassination, you went nuts.'<br /><br />Actually, I did not know of HER> statement on RFK until your team talked about the statement made by Trump.<br /><br />Don't forget Biden issueing a threat not to mess with HIS> Berretta or Obama would have troubles.KDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-74717264541417362242016-08-10T14:39:21.104-05:002016-08-10T14:39:21.104-05:00Reality is that neither should be. If one is both ...Reality is that neither should be. If one is both honest and objective. <br /><br />But seriously Roger... where did you pull the Hillary JFK stuff from? You stated I went crazy over it, when I never so much as brought it up. C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-59081781366123313652016-08-10T14:34:09.283-05:002016-08-10T14:34:09.283-05:00Reality would tell you that Trump should never be ...Reality would tell you that Trump should never be President. Coldheartedtruth Tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10441230118917524072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5548360050548401665.post-45041522929229212942016-08-10T14:17:28.099-05:002016-08-10T14:17:28.099-05:00Roger... I never once wrote about, provided an opi...Roger... I never once wrote about, provided an opinion, or even brought up Hillary and the JFK assassination, much less went "nuts". <br /><br />You seriously need a reality check.C.H. Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424696045921160961noreply@blogger.com