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| White House Spokesman says motive for attack is unclear. Says President is calling for more truck control laws. |
Two Americans among casualties:
A father and son from Texas and 10 children are among the 84 people murdered Thursday night when a terrorist plowed an explosives- and weapons-laden truck into a crowd of thousands gathered along a seaside promenade in Nice, France, to watch the city's Bastille Day fireworks.
The driver, who sources identified to Fox News as a 31-year-old Tunisian national, left a mile-long swath of carnage along the seaside walkway before police killed him in a shootout. French authorities did not hestitate to pronounce the attack, which began at 10:40 p.m. local time, an act of terrorism.
"Such a monstrosity," French President Francois Hollande said Friday morning. "France is deeply saddened, but it is also very strong. I can assure you we will always be stronger than the fanatics who are trying to attack us."
There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but two sources, including a U.S. counterterrorism source who collects and monitors jihadist social media, told Fox News that accounts linked to ISIS were “celebratory” and their followers were told to use the hashtag “Nice.”
The Junior Varsity team is at it again. In spite of the President's best attempt at convincing us otherwise, we are not actually defeating those bad men* who participate in these unlawful schemes**.
Everyone's thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of the victims, but at some point, condolences are simply not enough anymore. The evil forces of Islamic terror have declared war on western civilization. Pretending otherwise, is not a solution. Something has to be done, and more of the same status quo apathy is not the answer.
* Islamic Terrorists
** Acts of Terror
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Hillary finally put out a statement agreeing with Trump. Some kinda leader she is.
Newton Gingrich said that we should question every Muslim American, and if they believe in Sharia law, their citizenship should be repealed and that we deport them. Whether they are native born or not.
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=SNtGGFJOmYs
Gingrich: "We Should Frankly Test Every Person Here Who Is Of A Muslim Background, And If They Believe In Sharia, They Should Be Deported."
Roger - I don't agree with Newt on the specifics of his plan. But as an overall concept, you have to remember that any cohesive society (Country) has to share a certain amount of core values to remain cohesive.
Our core values do not include acts of terror, sharia law, or many other things that ISIS stands for.
It's interesting how "tolerant" the left is regarding people who want to kill Americans and believe western culture should be stomped out... in comparison to their lack of "tolerance" for say a Christian football coach who wants to perform a silent prayer at the end of a high school football game.
I simply am at a complete loss as to how you keep all of this intolerant tolerance straight.
And we're told to be reasonable, to be passive, to not judge. Well I just want to tell you tonight, everybody who watches this video, this is the fault of Western elites who lack the guts to do what is right, to do what is necessary, and to tell us the truth, and that starts with Barack Obama.
That's your solution CH?
Or the first amendment?
But we need to be fairly relentless about defining who our enemies are. Anybody who goes on a website favoring ISIS, or Al Qaeda, or other terrorist groups, that should be a felony, and they should go to jail. Any organization which hosts such a website should be engaged in a felony. It should be closed down immediately.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
"peaceably" does not apply to expressing an opinion according to Newt. Advocating violence can and has been prosecuted, but this is a very slippery slope slope. He's going over the edge.
Roger...
If our country can impose laws that says you cannot give a silent prayer at the end of a football game or that can force a Christian Baker to bake a cake for a same sex marriage.
and not be in violation of the first amendment.
You can certainly impose laws that prevent someone from spreading religious hate speech that promotes violence.
Ok, I'm at a loss too. But if we chip away at the first amendment, we are, as I said, that it's a very slippery slope.
I posted his entire remarks on the legendary legacy... blog.
He should never be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. And given his own comments, you presumptive nominee may be sliding down that path too.
We can and will defeat the terrorists. But we should not become no different than they are.
We have been sliding down the slippery slope of religious intolerance for quite some time, Roger...
I don't see how doing so to prevent acts of terror and other violence... is somehow worse than taking away Christian's basic rights to peacefully follow their religious beliefs.
Sorry, but that's not generic to this topic.
Making a cake isn't mass murder.
Roger - the day you reevaluate how we are stamping out the rights of Christians to be Christian, and criticize that...
Is the day you can criticize Newt or anyone else for promoting the common sense concept the Sharia Law cannot coexist in our American culture, and those here trying to promote it (or promote terror) should be arrested or deported.
The liberal concept that it's okay to attack Christians around every corner, but we have to allow the Muslims to have free reign (even if it promotes violence)... is one that has no redeeming value or logical reasoning...
Your head is once again, up your ass... because you are following your Party, not your own common sense.
Making a cake isn't mass murder.
Gee Roger, you think?
Wouldn't it make more sense that if you had to violate someone's religious rights...
That you would prevent the 'mass murder' and allow the decision on the cake to the person?
Rather than your argument that it should be the other way around?
"JV Team"
When you begin from a position of such weakness, you have zero chance of really fighting (Killing) the enemy, hell, Crooked Hillary can't even bring herself to calling the enemy what they are ISIS Muslim Faith Murders.
She is not only Unsophisticated, she is also weak and really dumb.
Since Crooked Hillary is just the old ugly white version of feckles Obimba, nothing will change IF she, GOD forbid , Buys the Election.
No, advocating violence in a not crime. Acting on it is.
We regularly see people here advocating violence against Muslims. That's not a crime.
Notice the HB is attacking the USA, not the Murdering Muslims.
advocating violence in a not crime." HB
It is physically impossible to be that stupid.
Yes it is a crime, you idiot.
Try this one crime on for size .
""18 U.S. Code § 2101 - Riots ----
In that Law aka making it a crime it says:
"(2) to organize, promote, encourage, participate in"
You are a very low IQ man.
Actually Roger... promoting criminal activity is a crime if it meets three criteria.
1) Speaker is promoting imminent lawless action
2) The lawless action the speaker is promoting is likely to occur
3) Speaker intends to produce the action
So any website that is engaged in promoting or planning of any events that involve criminal activity can be held criminally liable just for the promotion.
The fact that such promotion or planning comes with religious undertones does not make it any different than any other free speech issue.
Interesting discussion. Reality intrudes. I am thinking about the religious issue. But I'm still having a problem with intolerance for religious reasons, being legal. It works both ways.
Roger - I am at a loss as to your "reasoning" that it's perfectly acceptable to tell Christians they can't prey or that they have to perform actions that are inconsistent with their religious beliefs.
While arguing that the promotion of Islamic terror acts... should be protected under the first amendment Religious freedom clause? And that trying to curb it would create a "slippery slope".
It would appear that your twisted logic is direct cause of having to follow a Party that quite frankly "does" care more about the rights of Black Lives Matters to shut down highways, and ISIS to engage in terror acts... than they do with allowing Christians to live do things like prey and follow peacefully follow their religious views.
So any website that is engaged in promoting or planning of any events that involve criminal activity can be held criminally liable just for the promotion.
I don't disagree. But the standard must be very high. It could be used to persecute a certain unmentionable poster. Later.
Ch talks of "taking away Christian's basic rights to peacefully follow their religious beliefs..."
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We did that when we repealed African slavery which numerous Southern Christians (and some in the North) defended as a God-approved, God-ordained institution,
citing scriptural precedents for that belief.
Scriptural examples,
"slaves be obedient to your masters"
--see Ephesians 6:5; 1 Peter 2:18; Colossians 3:22.
Has Gingrich's sharia law statement elevated him to new consideration for Veep?
Roger - I am at a loss as to your "reasoning" that it's perfectly acceptable to tell Christians they can't prey or that they have to perform actions that are inconsistent with their religious beliefs.
While arguing that the promotion of Islamic terror acts... should be protected under the first amendment Religious freedom clause? And that trying to curb it would create a "slippery slope".
Christians to explode themselves, drive trucks into gatherings, load their car up with petrol and drive into airports, fly planes into buildings....
The left is gutless
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Newton Gingrich said that we should question every Muslim American, and if they believe in Sharia law, their citizenship should be repealed and that we deport them. Whether they are native born or not.
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how about internment camps?
now there's a concept democrats should be able to embrace since the concept originated with THEM.
you can judge us by our rhetoric rog. we'll judge YOU guys by your ACTIONS.
force a Christian Baker to bake a cake for a same sex marriage.
So baking a cake is a Cristian value? Its cake,not a ceremony.
James -
I am referring to people's rights to prey and decide which types of religious ceremonies they would like to participate in.
Neither Christianity or the United States create slavery. In fact, the United States was the first country to outlaw slave trading, and we freed the slaves 64 years before the League of Nations did. So, I would make the argument that the United States (acting as a Christian Nation at the time) was a leader in the abolition of slavery.
But either way, the argument that you could have a slave because of religion is no more or less stupid than the argument you can promote or plan acts of terror because of your religion.
Islamic terror acts are not protected by the first amendment rights. Neither us planning them or promoting them.
So baking a cake is a Cristian value? Its cake,not a ceremony.
Thank you for this brilliant statement.
Let us all know when you have a relevant point.
Newts comments throw red meat to the base r's. Do you honestly think this latest screed will be embrace by independents to come over to your side??? What will trump tweet about this plan? Will it become a plank at the convention like their latest statement that equal marriage rights should be abolished. Great plan for Christian extremists that want everyone to live like them. Sound familiar???
Let us all know when you have a relevant point.
Thanx for providing the words I used against you, CH. LOL Your comment is most amusing.
The left is gutless" Cali
Dangerously so, look at it this way if you will.
They talk about how well the Hillary/ObamaCare Act is working, you know the one that forces under penalty of law every legal American to spend money earned on something they don't need nor want.
But, they never ever address the massive Debt it adds to the 20 Trillion we are already running as a nation, it was only 10 Trillion when the ONE took office.
This Act by Hillary/Obama has weakened us as a nation, how does the adding of this unfunded mandate and terrorism tie together, well, rather then me saying it I will let this real Man Say it":
"The most significant threat to our national security is our debt," Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen
Note:
Jane , HB and now Opium all argue for Religious Freedom under the 1st Amendment for Muslims, but not for Christians or praying openly in Public Schools and at Public Sporting Events.
Odd how they twist to accomidate the enemy.
The West’s Annus Horribilis at the Hands of Islamists
The Paris attacks were in November 15. Easily forgotten is that that same week, Islamists killed Americans in Lebanon, Jordan, the West Bank and Mali.
The San Bernardino attack was December 2.
On New Year’s Day, ISIS rounded up and executed about 300 African migrants in Libya.
The Brussels Suicide Bombers struck March 22.
A car bomb went off in central Istanbul, June 7.
The Orlando attack occurred June 12.
The Istanbul airport attack was June 29. Not many people noticed that one of the people wanted in connection to that attack was once held in Guantanamo Bay and released to Russian authorities in 2004.
The Dhaka, Bangladesh attack was July 1.
And now, Nice, France:
A father and son from Texas and 10 children are among the 84 people murdered Thursday night when a terrorist plowed an explosives- and weapons-laden truck into a crowd of thousands gathered along a seaside promenade in Nice, France, to watch the city’s Bastille Day fireworks.
The driver, who sources identified to Fox News as a 31-year-old Tunisian national, left a mile-long swath of carnage along the seaside walkway before police killed him in a shootout. French authorities did not hesitate to pronounce the attack, which began at 10:40 p.m. local time, an act of terrorism.
“Such a monstrosity,” French President Francois Hollande said Friday morning. “France is deeply saddened, but it is also very strong. I can assure you we will always be stronger than the fanatics who are trying to attack us.”
One site calculates that so far in 2016, there have been 1,268 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11,664 people were killed and 14,087 injured. Most of these attacks occur in Iraq, Syria, Somalia, and never make the news in the United States.
- Jim Geraghty
seems like ol' newt might have a point.
Do you honestly think this latest screed will be embrace by independents to come over to your side???
You mean, as opposed to your side... who seem more than eager to embrace black lives matter shutting down highways, justify cop killings, and want to defend the rights of Islamic terrorists to plan attacks through the internet?
The Party of illegal immigrants, black lives matters, criminal cop killers, and Islamic Extremists... pat yourself on the back for being inclusive.
List of Islamic Terror:
2016
This is part of the list of Islamic terror attacks maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com.
During this time period, there were 1268 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11664 people were killed and 14087 injured.
During this time period, there were 1268 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11664 people were killed and 14087 injured.
But none of them were Black people killed by a White Cop... so what difference does that make.
But none of them were Black people killed by a White Cop... so what difference does that make.
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this is true.
dear leader has his priorities and the jay-vee squad ain't one of them.
the argument that you could have a slave because of religion is...stupid
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Stupid or not, it was firmly defended in many a pulpit as a God-ordained, God-approved institution.
150 years ago. If you're going back that far, then you as a Democrat should own and be responsible for Slavery.
Slavery is your fault.
Slavery was the fault of both the British and the Americans who allowed it, including our founding fathers who crafted the Constitution so as to allow it.
It was America's "original sin" according to Obama.
No, as a Democrat and descendant of a slave owners, it's all your fault.
:-) I'm not a descendant of slave owners.
But I guess it's the "fault" of both the black and the white descendants of Thomas Jefferson, slave owner.
Actually - the only reason James wants to revisit what happened 200 years ago... is because he has to go that far back to justify what his Party is doing today.
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Actually - the only reason James wants to revisit what happened 200 years ago... is because he has to go that far back to justify what his Party is doing today.
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and he's awful quiet about re-visiting FDR's internment camps in like of newt's sharia comments.
democrats had no problem with locking japanese american's in cages in the name of national security back then, but can't handle the thought of kicking moose-limbs out of the country today in the name of national security.
hypocrisy. bedrock. liberalism.
Let's see now. Which of our Presidents first opened an investigation into whether the incarceration of Japanese Americans was justified or not?
A Republican or a Democratic one? Which?
Answer: Jimmy Carter.
Bataclan:
According to this testimony, Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said.
Elsewhere, the investigator says, women were sexually tortured, stabbed in the genitals, and their eyes were plucked out. People were decapitated.
http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-france-suppressed-news-of-gruesome-torture-at-bataclan-massacre/
but it's newt's comments on sharia that send the usual pearl-clutching suspects straight to the fainting couch.
James said...
Let's see now. Which of our Presidents first opened an investigation into whether the incarceration of Japanese Americans was justified or not?
A Republican or a Democratic one? Which?
Answer: Jimmy Carter.
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so what you're saying is that for once, a democrat decided to clean up their own mess.
whoopie.
The NY Times:
What We Don’t Know
• The motive for the attack, whether the truck driver had accomplices, or whether any radical Islamist organizations may have played a role.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/world/europe/nice-france-truck-attack-what-we-know.html
hmmm...
when gabby giffords was shot, abc news' brian ross had the shooting tagged to the tea party in about 15 minutes.
The only reason you get so upset is because the suppression of blacks and the suppression of women were at one time important parts of genuinely held religious beliefs on the part of some -- and these have been forcefully overthrown -- AGAINST their religious beliefs.
As for women, why, they were MEANT to be kept inferior: Says so right there in Genesis 3:16: "he shall rule over you."
So you see, biblically, women should never have been given the vote or the right to run for public office...(sarcasm)..
So James -
You seem to be trying awful hard to make a very compelling case that limiting religious freedom rights is the correct thing to do in certain situations.
So it seems we all agree that Roger is wrong to claim that people who advocate violence in the name of Islamic Sharia law should be protected under the First Amendment Religious rights.
Welcome to the dark side, James...
DONALD TRUMP:
"I don't want any of them [persons of the Muslim faith] here. They are a dangerous element. There is no way to determine their loyalty... It makes no difference whether he is an American citizen, he is still a Muslim. American citizenship does not necessarily determine loyalty... But we must worry about the Muslims all the time until they are wiped off the map."
WAIT A MINUTE.
I got that last quote a little wrong. It was said not by The Donald but by Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, head of the Western Command, who questioned Japanese-American loyalty. DeWitt, administered the internment program and repeatedly told newspapers that "A Jap's a Jap." This is what he actually said:
DEWITT, TESTIFYING TO CONGRESS:
"I don't want any of them [persons of Japanese ancestry] here. They are a dangerous element. There is no way to determine their loyalty... It makes no difference whether he is an American citizen, he is still a Japanese. American citizenship does not necessarily determine loyalty... But we must worry about the Japanese all the time until he is wiped off the map."
Speaking of the dark side...
:-)
I am for laws absolutely FORBIDDING female "circumcision"* regardless of what religious beliefs may be put forward in defense of it.
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*that is to say, mutilation
So James...
So you believe that you can falsely assign a quote to someone who didn't make it... and prove any sort of point other than your own dishonesty?
So you believe that you can falsely assign a quote to someone who didn't make it... and prove any sort of point other than your own dishonesty?
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could it be that's he's auditioning to be a guest on MSDNC?
Circumcision is a topic?
Circumcision is a topic?
Apparently it's very similar to killing 80 plus people in the name of Islamic Jihadism.
The murderous driver was a loner. He had become radicalized from what he saw on the internet. This is a recurring problem, but deporting every Muslim is going to address this.
Most of the recent attacks were not part of an terrorist organization.
He had become radicalized from what he saw on the internet.
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so let's vaporize his source of inspiration.
turn the isis strongholds into the surface of the fucking moon.
CNN Chyron Fail: Suggests Muslim Male in France Was ‘Trump Rampage Survivor’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2016/07/15/cnn-chyron-fail-suggests-muslim-male-france-was-trump-rampage
Roger - Nobody is talking about deporting all Muslims.
The President (and Democrats in general) have (for years) wanted to deal with Terrorism as a police matter, not a military one.
So as a matter of fundamental police work 101 - you look into syndicates, organized crime, and you attempt to figure out which people are hanging around, having contact with other criminals.
Why would you expect the police to look for people with organized typical longstanding American crime ties, but not expect them to look for people with ties to organized Islamic crime ties?
Whether the solution is to deport them or arrest them or simply monitor them. You cannot claim that this is a police matter, and then not proactively deal with it as such.
Or to put it another way...
If your typical mafia group, started planning and engaging in mass killings of innocent people as a means to forward their crime syndicates... how aggressively would you expect the police to pursue any and all leads?
Would you suggest that such measures would be racist or bigoted because a bulk of the people being investigated are Sicilian?
Of course not. Think of Islamic terror as organized crime, not much different than the Mob.
Why would you expect the police to look for people with organized typical longstanding American crime ties, but not expect them to look for people with ties to organized Islamic crime ties?
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when the feds went after the mob in the 70's private clubs in NYC's little italy were bugged and placed under every method of surveillance we had available. time to dust off the RICO statutes and start treating islam in america the same way.
bug the mosques, the goat markets/brothels, and every other place they congregate.
You guys got a little weird here but the bottom line is this:
Sharia law has no place in the United States of America. Period. Anyone who seeks to impose Sharia on Americans, in any fashion other than legislation by our elected representatives (which isn't going to happen) is an enemy of the Constitution and of the American people.
Draw the line and don't cross - from either side - but we need the line and it needs to be defined, public and enforced.
WP... agreed.
Damn right, WP!
well said, wp.
what troubles me is that something so commonsensical could be so controversial.
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