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Monday, August 1, 2016

Weekly Trend

Here are the overall numbers from the previous three weeks
Pre-convention numbers. Post RNC numbers. Post DNC.
These are Monday to Monday to Monday.

End date Trump Hillary Spread Projected
07/18/16 38.90 42.60 3.70 Clinton +2.3
07/25/16 40.17 41.74 1.57 Clinton +0.4
08/01/16 39.60 42.39 2.78 Clinton +2.0

Now these are the same twenty three polls. None of these polls have been added, and none of them have been removed. Some were updated multiple times (only the last poll is used). A few were only updated after the RNC, while a couple were only updated during or after the DNC. Many were not updated at all making the overall movement less defined.

There were some big bounces both ways. A couple of polls moved significantly both directions. Because of the CBS and CNN polls, the Hillary Bounce looks bigger.  On the flip side both of the tracking polls moved much further in Trumps direction than they did in the Clinton direction. Even with the Reuters tracking poll changing methodology, Trump erased a double digit poll in the four way match up. The LA Times tracking poll literally polls the same people, so the only changes are specific people changing their minds. That poll started right around even, and currently sits at a four percent Trump lead. 

Trump also benefited from preconvention movement in the couple of weeks prior to the RNC, so it's possible that some of the bounces were helped by polls from late June being replaced by better polls from Trump. It's possible that this continues moving forward. Or perhaps there will be another shift and we will see similar polling numbers as we did in June. 

Either way... as I have stated for the past few weeks, none of this movement will matter at the end of the day. Give it another two or three weeks, and then look to see where we are at.

70 comments:

Indy Voter said...

I'd say look around the end of this week to see how the conventions and related events shifted opinion.

Ordinarily, I'd expect a couple of weeks' down time during the Olympics while both campaigns prepare for the stretch run, but I don't think Trump can stand staying out of the headlines for 17 days.

Commonsense said...

Somehow, I don't think the Olympics will be that much of a factor unless they become the real train wreak everyone fears.

Roger Amick said...

I was in Rio clear back when our esteemed host was, well young, 1974. The sewer system was nonexistent than, and from my friend who lives in Belo Horizonte says that it's not any better than it was then.

As a 22 year old kid from Rapid City South Dakota, string bikinis were shall I say, interesting. Oh my.

You still can't drink the water from the tap.

Roger Amick said...

When I flew out of the Rapid City airport November 15, it was 15 F. In Rio the main at the gate said it was 40 C. Hot and humid.

Roger Amick said...

CS, you have that right. Trump is compulsive, and will again and again, lash out and further reduce his chances to win the election.

Eugene Robinson posted a convincing argument that Trump is literally insane.

Roger Amick said...

RCP polling numbers show clearly that the Trump bounce has vanished.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

Clinton isn't as far ahead as Romney was four years ago. But Trump's response to anything negative about him, out comes the Tweets.

Commonsense said...

Well, I don't buy the insane part. That is just Liberal hyperbole.

And if you are going to start psychologically analysing presidential candidates, what do you make of the vindictive, paranoid, compulsive liar the Democrats just nominated?

Roger Amick said...

She's not perfect but in comparison to Trump, she's the most truthful politician on earth.

rrb said...

what do you make of the vindictive, paranoid, compulsive liar the Democrats just nominated?
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that's a feature, not a bug.

as glenn reynolds (instapundit) likes to point out - democrats are a criminal enterprise masquerading as a political party.

they lie, they cheat, they steal, they commit voter fraud, they line their pockets at the expense of the taxpayer, and in hillary's case, they get people killed to advance their political agenda's and careers.

to look at her is to stare into the face of pure evil.

C.H. Truth said...

I was peripheral to a conversation yesterday at work... regarding Donald Trump. After one of the people mentioned what a giant liar he was, I asked that person to tell me the biggest Donald Trump lie ever told. More in a playful manner like I wanted to hear the fish tale about his craziness.

The person in question couldn't actually think of one of the top of his head. After a bit of fumbling they mentioned that Trump said that there was lots of criminals coming from Mexico and that he was obviously not telling the truth.

As exaggeration of the truth, I offered? Or are you suggesting that there is not a problem with criminal activity coming from Mexico?

No real reply.

Then I asked him if anyone could name any lies told by Hillary.

You could have heard a pin drop. I walked away.

Commonsense said...

I think the diffrence is that Trump lies about small inconsequential things while Clinton lies about critical, significant things (for example putting our national security at risk, lying to grieving families about what happen to their sons, etc).

And she continues to lie.

rrb said...

The person in question couldn't actually think of one of the top of his head.
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the same is true over the charges of racism. trump's not a racist. just a realist. but the media runs with the fable on behalf of the DNC and as we know - a lie makes it halfway around the world before the truth even gets its pants on.

mission accomplished.

opie' said...

No real reply.

Nothing like eavesdropping into others conversations to show how smart you are. I guess the BS about cruises father and lee harvey was just stretching the truth or that the Obama administration was supporting Al qaeda in iraq was said in jest. Too bad you think this is normal rhetoric, but it was your side in Nevada that booed that mother when she asked pence about Khan. Yep, you are on the side of stupid.

KD, Hillary 5 USA 0 said...

Alky

Grow the fuck up, so what IF CHT Deletes some of your post, you do it all the time to others.

opie' said...

Commonsense said...
I think the difference is that Trump lies about small inconsequential things


yeah sure, menstral child. Trump is certifiable, like you.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

opie' said...

And lets not forget, donnie was viciously attacked by the parents of a soldier KIA and that he sacrificed dearly to build his skyscraper in manhattan. Yep, you all are living jokes to the great manipulator donnie. LOL

Mr. Trump’s derision of the parents of Capt. Humayun Khan, a Muslim American who was awarded a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart after he was killed in Iraq by a suicide bomber, was deplorable and mystifying. Why would a presidential candidate mock the parents of a soldier who died in combat?

At last week’s Democratic convention, Captain Khan’s father, Khizr Khan, with his wife, Ghazala Khan, by his side, criticized Mr. Trump for proposing to ban Muslim immigration to the United States and accused him of having made no sacrifices for his country. Over the weekend, Mr. Trump implied that Mrs. Khan did not speak at the convention because her religion did not allow it, and he equated his “sacrifices” as a businessman to those of the grieving parents. On Monday, Mr. Trump kept at it, complaining on Twitter that Mr. Khan “viciously attacked” him.

Some Republicans, like the House speaker, Paul Ryan; the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell; and Senator Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire released statements defending the Khans. Yet they still refuse to back off their support for Mr. Trump.

From the NYT's

Few carry as much weight on military matters as Senator John McCain of Arizona, himself a decorated hero of the Vietnam War, who issued a statement Monday sharply criticizing Mr. Trump, saying, “It is time for Donald Trump to set the example for our country and the future of the Republican Party.”

It’s hard to imagine, a year into the campaign, that Mr. Trump could ever set such an example. The truth is, it’s time for Mr. McCain and other Republican leaders to set an example for their party by withdrawing support for Mr. Trump.

C.H. Truth said...

My favorite example of the pants on fire rating was back in 2011 when Trump told a crowd that CNN had just released a poll showing him tied with Barack Obama if he decided to run.

Polifact suggested that he lied because CNN had not commissioned a poll (they actually linked a Newsweek poll)... and that the Newsweek poll was an "outlier" of other polls showing him down.

The fact was that Newsweek had shown a poll showing Obama leading Trump in a hypothetical match up by 43-41 (within the margin of error).

From a technical standpoint. With the exception of Trump stating CNN "released" the poll, when they just wrote about it, what he said was entirely accurate. There was a poll that showed the two of them statistically (within moe) tied.

The fact that other polls stated something else, does not in fact change whether or not there was a poll released showing Trump and Obama statistically tied.

You cease to be a fact checking organization when you stop checking the "facts" alone... and start weighing in with your opinion or deciding that certain claims need "context".

Reality is that one person's "context" is another person's "red herring". The difference is always a matter of opinion, and never a matter of fact. It has no business in objective fact checking.

KD, Lied about everything said...

Hillary lied about how her mother named her,,,, I mean really.

She lied to the Families of the Bengazi Murdered by ISIS Terrorist.

She Lied to the FBI, to the Press to every American.

She lied that she was "dead broke" when she left the WH.

She Lied to the IRS, IF she was "Dead Broke" then she lied on her tax forms. 2000 Tax return:


"We came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt."

— Hillary Clinton on Monday, June 9th, 2014 in an interview on ABC

Reported income for that Year Line 22 shows income at $357,629

KD said...

In the year she said she was dead broke she had a reported income from two sources not Bills pay.

1, Ordinary Dividends =$ 11,648

2, Capital Gains = $136,046

The only reason to report those as not ordinary INCOME is to reduce the rate they are taxed, see with all things Hillary, there are two sides of her face.

opie' said...

I truly believe the Republican congress purposely refused to help hoping it would destroy Obama.

It didn't but it may have destroyed the economy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/opinion/as-homes-and-cars-go-so-goes-the-economy.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-5&action=click&contentCollection=Opinion®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article

Commonsense said...

yeah sure, menstral child. Trump is certifiable, like you.

Thank you for proving my point.

BTW One of those "Pants on Fire" turned out to be true. Crime is rising in the cities.

For that and so many other reasons, nobody takes Politifact seriously anymore.

opie' said...


'Reality is that one person's "context""

That certainly applies to you with your constant making up others thoughts and trying to rationalize that trump is real and GW is a hoax.

C.H. Truth said...

Khan is an immigration attorney who got up in front of America and mocked a Presidential candidate because he disagrees with him on immigration.

The rest was all symbolism that was designed to exploit the weak minded and start controversy. I think it worked spectacularly. I give the Democrats props for their devious plan, at least in the short term.

I am just not naive enough to fall for it... and I don't have to answer to anyone for telling the truth.

Of course, the longer this guy hangs around, the less effective it is and the bigger chance there is that he could actually become a liability. There is such a thing as pushing things like this a little too hard.

opie' said...

Crime is rising in the cities

Not in the country, as trump implied in his words. Can't fix stupid, especially you. Just as GW is a hoax according to you, your opinion on politifact is noted as being a site that does not support what you want. LOL

C.H. Truth said...

If Khan was a true American, he would accept that his own freedom of speech allows others to disagree with him. Especially when he offers that freedom in front of millions at a political convention.

The fact that he demands that his opinions are beyond reproach because his son died in combat twelve years ago sort of makes him a coward. Easy to take the fight to someone, when you demand that they are not allowed to fight back.

Commonsense said...

Khan's 15 minutes of fame is just about at an end.

If Trump will let it go.

Commonsense said...

When Opie doesn't have an argument he resorts to personal attacks.

Please take it to the other blog Opie. Roger needs some page views.

C.H. Truth said...

Another claim that Polifact rated false:

The midyear violent crime survey released Monday by the Major Cities Chiefs Association shows 307 more homicides so far in 2016, according to data from 51 law enforcement agencies from some of the largest US cities.

In addition to a large increase in homicides, major cities in the US have experienced more than 1,000 more robberies, almost 2,000 more aggravated assaults and more than 600 non-fatal shootings in 2016 compared to this time last year. The only category of violent crime not reflecting an increase when compared to last year is rape.

The 316 homicides reported by the Chicago Police Department were by far the most of any law enforcement agency included in the survey, a 48% increase over last year.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/violent-crime-report-us-cities-homicides-rapes/


opie' said...


Khan is an immigration attorney who got up in front of America and mocked a Presidential candidate because he disagrees with him on immigration.

Another example of you putting words in someone else's mouth and the most proving you are drowning in trumps stupidity.

The rest was all symbolism that was designed to exploit the weak minded and start controversy. I think it worked spectacularly

Yep, trump is living rent free in you head, CH, and you don't even know it. LOLOL He got his ass kicked by regular people and didn't know how to control his temper! Sure makes me comfortable with him having the football, but you think that is normal which brings your sanity into question.

opie' said...

C.H. Truth said...
Another claim that Polifact rated false:

Another excuse for Trump alluding the nation's crime rate was growing when the reality was there were specific cities reporting increase while others were remaining steady or decrease. Thanx for your bias, CH. this is fun. LOL

C.H. Truth said...

Opie -
- Khan is an immigration attorney. That's a fact.
- He got up in front of America with the constitution and demanded that the GOP nominee for President hasn't read it. That is mocking.


And I absolutely knew that Trump would go after him. Just as he went after Cruz after the convention. Just as he has a history of fighting back against pretty much everyone that takes him on.

That may or may not play well... depending on your position.

Obviously you are someone who would rather our Presidents roll over and take their beatings from the fetal position, like our current President has on multiple occasions. You know drawing red lines, leading from behind, allowing the JV team to control large sections of the middle east while raping and pillaging Syrian towns and cities... oh and allowing Vladimir Putin to become the dominant political leader in the world.

But there are some that may want a President who doesn't allow people to walk all over them, and actually has a history and personality of fighting back and not taking crap from people. Some people are more concerned with pushing back than being "politically correct".

opie' said...

The homicide toll across the country — which reached a grim nadir in 1993 when more than 2,200 murders were counted in New York City — has declined in ebbs and flows for much of the last 20 years, noted Alfred Blumstein, a professor of urban systems and operations research at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh. Several U.S. cities – including Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Diego and Indianapolis – have experienced a decrease in the number of murders so far this year.

Blumstein said the current surge in murders in some big cities could amount to no more than a blip.

"It could be 2015 represents us hitting a plateau, and by the end of the year, nationally, we'll see that murder rates are flat or there is a slight bump up," Blumstein said.

But other experts say the surge in killings suggests that the United States may be nearing a floor in reducing its murder rate as the federal, state and local governments increasingly grapple with tighter budgets.

Again, CH, your selective data manipulation is most amusing. Above from USA today.

opie' said...

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/crime-2015-final-analysis

Crime in 2015: A Final Analysis
Ames Grawert, James Cullen
April 20, 2016


Overall crime rates in America’s 30 largest cities were nearly identical from 2014 to 2015, according to an analysis of final 2015 numbers. Crime declined over that time period by 0.1 percent. The data show that crime rates remain at historic lows nationally, despite recent upticks in a handful of cities.

The authors of this report looked at changes in crime and murder from 2014 to 2015, using data through Dec. 31, 2015, and examined economic factors in Chicago, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C., that could explain why murder rates are up in those cities. Of the 30 cities studied, the three areas accounted for more than half of the increase in murders last year.

Among the updated findings:
Crime overall in the 30 largest cities in 2015 remained the same as in 2014, decreasing by 0.1 percent. Two-thirds of cities saw drops in crime, which were offset mostly by an increase in Los Angeles (12.7 percent). Nationally, crime remains at all-time lows.

Violent crime rose slightly, by 3.1 percent. This result was primarily caused by increasing violence in Los Angeles (25.2 percent), Baltimore (19.2 percent), and Charlotte (15.9 percent). Notably, aggravated assaults in Los Angeles account for more than half of the national rise in violent crime.

The 2015 murder rate rose by 13.2* percent in the 30 largest cities, with 19 cities seeing increases and 6 decreases. However, in absolute terms, murder rates are so low that a small numerical increase can lead to a large percentage change.

Final data confirm that three cities (Baltimore, Chicago, and Washington, D.C.) account for more than half (244) of the national increase in murders. While this suggests cause for concern in some cities, murder rates vary widely from year to year, and there is little evidence of a national coming wave in violent crime. These serious increases seem to be localized, rather than part of a national pandemic, suggesting that community conditions remain the major factor. Notably, these three cities all seem to have falling populations, higher poverty rates, and higher unemployment than the national average. This implies that economic deterioration of these cities could be a contributor to murder increases.

opie' said...

Once again, CH, trump gave you just enough truth to fool you. LOLOL

I am very impressed with your tenacity to defend the indefensible.

C.H. Truth said...

Opie - violent crime went up in 2015 for the first time in years. That statistic is from the FBI and includes national statistics, not just city statistics.

But considering 80% of our population lives in urban areas, and the vast majority of your violent crimes actually take place in major cities... I would be willing to wager that the 2016 crime statistics from Major Cities will be fairly close to what we will see overall.

C.H. Truth said...

So Opie...

You cite a statistic stating that Violent crime rose slightly, by 3.1 percent. But that you still consider it inaccurate to claim that violent crime is rising?

The truth is that violent crime has been decreasing over the past 20 years or so... and we can come up with a ton of reasons that have nothing to do with current policies.

But isn't it interesting that in these major cities (many of which have been forced to go through "retraining") - the crime rates are (for the first time in 20 years) going up rather than going down?

In the cities like Baltimore where you had major rioting and accusations of police racism... violent crime is up nearly 20%... for many people that shows a pretty serious cause and effect.

opie' said...

C.H. Truth said...
Okie - violent crime went up in 2015 for the first time in years

Again, what does that have to do with what trump cherry picked?????

I'm enjoying your holier than thou lecture CH, yes it went up slightly in 2015 attributable to 2 cities with half coming from LA. I find it amusing that you are now an expert in crime and worrying about the leeches in urban areas.



Update to Crime in 2015: A Preliminary Analysis BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE | 1
Crime in 2015: A Final Analysis
By Ames Grawert and James Cullen
This analysis provides final crime data to update the report,
Crime in 2015: A Preliminary Analysis


The analysis examines crime in the 30 largest cities from 2014 to 2015, with 25 cities reporting data on murder through the end of 2015 and 22 reporting data on crime. Its findings:

Violent crime rose slightly, by 3.1 percent. This result was primarily caused by increasing violence in Los Angeles (25.2 percent), Baltimore (19.2 percent), and Charlotte (15.9 percent). Notably, aggravated assaults in Los Angeles account for more than half of the rise in violent crime in these cities. There is no evidence of a deviation from the historically low levels of violence the country has been experiencing

opie' said...

But that you still consider it inaccurate to claim that violent crime is rising?


Again, thanx again for misconstruing and putting words in my mouth. You really are a laughingstock, CH and are about as truthful as trump. LOL

C.H. Truth said...

Here is a quote from Trump

"Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s 50 largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years."

Even Polifact gave it a "half true" - which for Donald Trump means it was flat out correct statistic but that like everything else from Polifact they just didn't like his use of it.

They argue:

"The statement comes from a credible source -- calculations made by the Washington Post."

But

"experts caution against putting too much stock in short-term changes, since year-to-year data can be volatile for hard-to-discern reasons."

Which led them to conclude:

"The statement contains an element of truth but ignores facts that would give a different impression."


So, bottom line: According to Polifact - It would be more factually accurate to cite the statistic, but only along side the opinions of unnamed "experts" that Polifact neither references, quotes, or provides any credible sourcing for.

Yeah... got to love objectivity.

opie' said...


"Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s 50 largest cities.

Which implied all 50 cities, which is not supported by fact. Again, you bias is showing CH and you are looking rather small, just like trump. Thanx for proving my point again and again and again, that politfact was actually correct. LOL

Keep digging,this is fun.

opie' said...

I rest my case

how in Table 1B, the 2015 murder rate rose by 13.2 percent in the 30 largest cities, with 19 cities seeing increases and six decreases.

Thanx for the guano CH. I hope it is tasty

C.H. Truth said...

So Opie...

I enjoy your new logic. I guess we can apply the same reasoning towards Global Warming?

So the fact that it may be 0.01 degrees "warmer" this year than "last" year becomes irrelevant if there are parts of the planet where there is warming and parts where it is not?

Glad you clarified statistics for us.

I guess you just debunked the theory of global warming. Congratulations!!

opie' said...

The first of what I hope of many. Seems like one of Jebby's staff has switched parties and will vote for Hillary also. They are finally seeing the light, which has blinded our esteemed host.


Rep. Richard Hanna, R-N.Y., broke party ranks Tuesday and announced that he would vote for Hillary Clinton in November.

“While I disagree with her on many issues, I will vote for Mrs. Clinton,” he wrote in an op-ed on Syracuse.com.

There have been several high-profile critics of Donald Trump among Republican members of Congress, including some who said they would not vote for their own party’s nominee in the general election. However, Hanna is the first to say he would cast his ballot for Trump’s Democratic opponent.

In a separate interview with Syracuse.com, Hanna said his decision was motivated by Trump’s recent comments about a Muslim American family whose son heroically died in the Iraq War in 2004. The soldier’s father, Khizr Khan, passionately criticized Trump during last week’s Democratic National Convention. Trump pushed back in interviews and on Twitter, questioning why Khan’s wife was silent during the speech.

“I saw that and felt incensed,” Hanna told the outlet of Trump’s response. “I was stunned by the callousness of his comments.”

He added: “I think Trump is a national embarrassment. Is he really the guy you want to have the nuclear codes?”

opie' said...

I guess we can apply the same reasoning towards Global Warming?

Great duck CH!!!! LOL you still cannot say with certainty that 2014 wasn't the hottest year at the time. LOL, keep digging since you cannot defend your position anymore. And you cannot say with certainty that all 50 cities had increases in the homicide rate since the brennan center published report said 6 out of 30 went down. You lose again... LOL

Loretta Russo said...

"So the fact that it may be 0.01 degrees "warmer" this year than "last" year becomes irrelevant if there are parts of the planet where there is warming and parts where it is not?"

AND, there it is, lol.

C.H. Truth said...

Opie -

I am just asking you for some consistency.

Does an overall statistic have to show consistency in every specific subsection in order for it to be true overall? Obviously that was not something I ever learned in any of the statistics or math classes I took in college.

I would be curious, where you learned such a axiom?


KD, facts are hard on liberals said...

Hillary's Dead Broke status, shocking that she believes that is dead broke. $357,629 Income
$3,865 for that year they banked a Tax Return to boot.

and If your so freaking broke, why do you Pay the firm of Pell Rudman $3600 to do stock Trades and over seas investments.

From the web site of Hillary's Brokers:
" Pell Rudman Trust Company, N.A. is a leading manager of private wealth in
North America and abroad, serving prominent families and selected institutions
from its headquarters in Boston and regional offices in Atlanta, Baltimore,
Delaware, Denver and Washington, DC. The firm currently manages client assets
of approximately $7 billion."

Yep, Crooked Lying hillbilly

KD, Opium lives on the streets again said...

" 2014 wasn't the hottest year at the time. "


I have to agree with Odopium,,,, for the year 2014, it was the hottest temp for 2014.


opie' said...


I am just asking you for some consistency.

No you aren't. You just being partisan. when on the losing end. You cannot admit that trump was misleading in his statement that had a kernel of truth, which you as the good partisan applied to the universe. It is obvious to me that you were sleeping in class since you really abhor science and like to spin everything in your direction no matter what the truth is. The fact remains not every large city had an increase! And we haven't even addressed those that has no change. Seems to me you are missing the point, again.

opie' said...

Loretta Russo said...
"So the fact that it may be 0.01 degrees "warmer" this year than "last" year becomes irrelevant if there are parts of the planet where there is warming and parts where it is not?"

AND, there it is, lol.

And again. Loretta's propensity for being stupid mirrors trumps inability to tell the truth. LOL idiot go back to the other site and add your nothing there.

Thanx for following me around like a rabid dog.

Loretta Russo said...

Not an original bone....

opie' said...

Trump is nutz with advisors like this jag off!!

A Donald Trump adviser who just weeks ago said Hillary Clinton should be executed for “treason” is now targeting Khizr Khan — spreading a crazed conspiracy theory that the Gold Star father is a “Muslim Brotherhood agent.”

Al Baldasaro, a New Hampshire state representative, on Monday tweeted a story from ShoeBat — an anti-Islamic conspiracy site — claiming Khan is secretly a Muslim Brotherhood cohort who is “working to bring Muslims into the United States” and “wanted to ‘trump’ Trump’s Muslim immigration policy of limiting Muslim immigration into the U.S.”

i'm sure loretta will buy into this story just like CH

opie' said...

Loretta Russo said...

It's easy with such an intellect like you. LOL Go away, little girl.

rrb said...

Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Opie -
- Khan is an immigration attorney. That's a fact.
- He got up in front of America with the constitution and demanded that the GOP nominee for President hasn't read it. That is mocking.
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khan is more committed to sharia law than he is to our constitution:

“The Shari’ah-was completed during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammed, in the Quran and Sunnah. This brings up an important fact which is generally overlooked, that the invariable and basic rules of Islamic Law are only those prescribed in the Shari’ah (Quran and Sunnah), which are few and limited,” Khan continues to write. “All other juridical works which have been written during more than thirteen centuries are very rich and indispensable, but they must always be subordinated to the Shari’ah and open to reconsideration by all Muslims.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/01/khizr-khan-has-previously-written-extensively-on-sharia-law/#ixzz4GBwvy74Y

“All other juridical works which have been written during more than thirteen centuries are very rich and indispensable, but they must always be subordinated to the Shari’ah and open to reconsideration by all Muslims.”


so in khan's world, the u.s. constitution takes a back seat to sharia law.

Loretta Russo said...

"so in khan's world, the u.s. constitution takes a back seat to sharia law"

Makes him a perfect liberal

rrb said...

Makes him a perfect liberal
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well, at least we know why he was given such a prominent speaking gig at the froot loop convention.

opie' said...

khan is more committed to sharia law than he is to our constitution:
Another F'ed Up opinion posted by the idiot rat and accepted for the non thinker excuse maker, Loretta. Khan knows more about this country than you so called Republicon's and has certainly had his life shattered from someone defending the constitution, something neither of you have ever done because the only thing you have ever sacrificed yourself is complaining like children on this little slice of heaven.

Dayum you 2 are running a contest who can be the dumbest fuck on this site. LOL

C.H. Truth said...

You cannot admit that trump was misleading in his statement that had a kernel of truth

Actually his statement was 100% the truth. The only people being "misleading" are the ones who don't like the statistic.

opie' said...

Actually his statement was 100% the truth.

Your erroneous opinion is once again noted and your spin about samples is just that, spin. Keep digging and show me the data that all 50 cities had increases in homicides or 2014 was not the warmest year at the time. Idiot.

C.H. Truth said...

Well Opie nobody is claiming that:

"all the cities" show more crime

or

"all parts of the planet" show more warming.


Rather both make a claim that overall statistics show a trend in one direction:


Since you clearly embrace the second argument... that the planet is warming in spite of parts of it having cooler temperatures. Then surely you would have to use that same logic when it comes to crime.



Your argument is a little like saying you cannot say that Obama got more overall votes than Romney, because he didn't win every state.

opie' said...


"Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s 50 largest cities.


"all the cities" show more crime

Glad to see you are editing my words before using them. Me thinks you left a key statistic out CH. You are as honest as hillary with your BS!!! Its no use trying to fix you CH, you are broke beyond fixing with the way you make shit up while homicides seems to have disappeared from your desperate post. Oh well keep digging

rrb said...




Khizr Khan, the Muslim Gold Star father that Democrats and their allies media wide have been using to hammer GOP presidential nominee Donald J. Trump, has deleted his law firm’s website from the Internet.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/02/khizr-khan-deletes-law-firm-website-proving-financially-benefits-pay-play-muslim-migration/


it's almost like he has something to hide.......




C.H. Truth said...

Opie - the statement:

"The number of homicides in the country's 50 largest cities rose nearly 17 percent last year, the greatest increase in lethal violence in a quarter century"

Came from the Washington Post - not Donald Trump. So you would be accusing the Washington Post of citing statistics incorrectly.

C.H. Truth said...

But of course, having a math degree, with statistics being one of my areas of concentration. I would never look at such a statement number of homicides in the country's 50 largest cities rose nearly 17 percent and just assume that each of those 50 cities all rose by nearly 17 percent.

See, I would never in a million years (nor would any statistician) believe for a second that each city would have the same exact rise in crime rates. Everyone with basic remedial mathematical skills would assume that the totals from all 50 cities would be added up and that you would draw your conclusion from that bulk. That would mean that some would be higher than 17% and some would be lower than 17% - but that as a whole, when averaged out... it would be nearly 17 percent.

Otherwise, you could never use any sort of bulk statistical analysis... if you maintained that "each" of the data points had to be exactly the same. I guess Opie got his mathematical skills from someone who doesn't understand the concept of a "mean" average.

C.H. Truth said...

By Opie's standards... that would definitely disqualify any and all of the data collected by global warming scientists, since their specific data points would not all be the same.

Some would show more warming. Some would show less warming. Some would show cooling. So according to Opie, for them to add it up, use a mean to determine overall temperatures of the earth would be dishonest... because "not all" of the places on earth would have had that same change.

And Opie doesn't believe using a "mean" to calculate multiple data points is "honest".

opie' said...

So you would be accusing the Washington Post of citing statistics incorrectly."


Which is incorrect. According to brennan.org. 6 of the largest cities had decreases and those with no change were not mentioned. You don't have to be a math major to be able to read and than make shit up like you do especially concerning GW another subject you have no expertise on with your sick interpretation how the global temps are measured. But why would you let ignorance get in the way of your opinion . LOL

opie' said...

n) believe for a second that each city would have the same exact rise in crime rates"

More made up crap that proves nothing other than your extreme bias.

opie' said...

Trump said, "Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s 50 largest cities. That’s the largest increase in 25 years."

The statement comes from a credible source -- calculations made by the Washington Post. However, in painting a bleak picture, Trump cherry-picks the Post’s overall findings -- and makes mistakes criminologists warn about.

The Post article acknowledged that FBI data found a smaller increase in recent years, with contradictory results for many cities. And experts caution against putting too much stock in short-term changes, since year-to-year data can be volatile for hard-to-discern reasons.

Lost in Trump’s formulation is that, overall, violent crime has been falling consistently for about a quarter century. The statement contains an element of truth but ignores facts that would give a different impression, so we rate his claim Half True.


Yep, Ch defends another half truth. LOL

opie' said...

I guess Opie got his mathematical skills from someone who doesn't understand the concept of a "mean" average.

I guess CH gets his rocks off by making shit up. Seems all you ever have is putting your opinion in others words. Another sign of a weak mind and even weaker candidate. LOL

wphamilton said...

If it's so important to use the mean, CHT. then why the focus only on a single year?

Yes, the mean increased for homicides in major cities over the last year, but after a decade of drawing down. Whatever inferences we may make from that increase, it's not what Trump wants to make of it. Murders were down to a 51 year low in 2014. https://mises.org/blog/fbi-us-homicide-rate-51-year-low

As usual Trump is banking on the ignorance of the US voter for his argument, which is, as always, derived from the base emotions. Win some, lose some, but you can't defend this one CHT.