Ironically, the people condemning Donald Trump for talking about lewd treatment of women, are mostly the same people who defended Bill Clinton after it was exposed that he had a twelve year affair with a model/actress and engaged in similar activity with a a 22 year old intern (while President). How much more lewd can you be than shoving a cigar into the private areas of your intern to add to the taste when you smoke it?
To be clear, there is nobody who has come forward and accused Trump of rape, harassment, or any other type of transgression. If there was any infidelity it would have been of the consensual nature (which was the gold standard of acceptability when Clinton was having his affairs). After all, most of what Trump spoke about was the general concept that many women are willing to allow men with money and power to behave in ways that the rest of us mere mortals are not allowed to.
Like it or not... the genie is out of this bottle and past sexual indiscretion is likely going to be an ongoing topic of conversation. I find it almost without question that Trump (and surrogates) will respond in kind. In fact, people will now likely "expect" a proportional response in the coming days or weeks. I doubt very seriously whether or not marriage infidelity and sexual scandal is a debate that the Clintons want to engage in with anyone (even Donald Trump).
The ugliest campaign in history, just took an ugly turn for the worse.
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We've already heard from Juanita Broderick and Paula Jones...
...wonder if we'll hear from Monica about that well-placed cigar.
Ch says, "to be clear there is nobody who has come forward and accused Trump of rape, harassment, or any other type of transgression..."
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Please do not delete the following:
"...three times he’s been accused of rape or attempted rape, by three different women."
http://fusion.net/story/328522/donald-trump-accused-rape-sexual-assault/
I assumed the Clintons went nuclear because they has internal polling that wasn't as rosy as the media's polls.
It worked, fair or not Trump's locker room talk disqualified him while Bill history of rape and sexual harassment and Hillary's enabling behaviour does not.
Even if Trump does bring it up, the media will ignore insisting the beast must be slayed while letting to more dangerous beast become president.
*Have
There are more errors than just "have."
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But aside from grammar, Commensa seems to think the Clinton campaign decided when, where, and how to release the video.
That may not be the case.
Please do not delete the following:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/07/media/access-hollywood-donald-trump-tape/index.html
for talking about lewd treatment of women, are mostly the same people who defended Bill Clinton
Horse crap. Now you are rationalizing that Bill Clinton is responsible for trumps stupid words. Trump said clinton said worse things. Maybe so, but trump got caught on tape. Oh well. Maybe loretta wouldn't mind having her pussy grabbed, but that is her choice. Trump said it is an old tape and therefore irrelevant. Seems to me that bringing up the old clinton BS, is about as hypocritical as you can get. Your boy stepped on it and now you blame hillary for her husbands screwing around. And before you start your bs that she trashed the women herself, there is no proof of that actually happening.
Commonsense said...
I assumed the Clintons went nuclear
Clintons had nothing to do with the audio tape or his words.....
Please do not delete:
Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored
06/29/2016 | Updated Sep 29, 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html
Commensa seems to think the Clinton campaign decided when, where, and how to release the video.
That may not be the case.
You don't think so? Jeb Bush is now having that awkward conversation with his cousin about why the tape wasn't released in February when it could have done him and the rest of the Republican field some good.
Obviously Billy Bush knew the tape existed.
Now can we ever get back to the issues on the minds of both liberals and conservatives?
1, Jobs
2, Healthcare cost sky rocketing ( Cancellation notices are going out and 40 % plus policy increases are going out also all hit before the end of this month, owned completely by Democrats.)
3, Terrorism on the streets of the USA
NPR Gywenn the dumbass, went into full blown meltdown mode over Bill Clinton telling the truth about how ObamaCare is crushing this economy, killing jobs, and hurting the workers because of Higher Premiums.
Now thanks to Cali we find out that the rate hikes are being mailed out and so are the cancellations.
The Hack the worked with Obama/Hillary to put together ObimboCare was attempting to argue with Megan Kelly , she told him he is full of shit and that this is owned lock stock and barrel by the Dems.
She rocks.
Are you daft? You honestly think those guys would have been talking like that in the bus if they had known a mike was live? You really do have bats in your belfry.
James linking three stories about the same civil lawsuit might qualify as spam.
I assume the reason the New York Times or Washington Post didn't publish the story is that they didn't find it credible.
Or maybe they were holding it to release when it would do the most damage.
But now give us a source for Jeb and Billy having a conversation.
You can't. It's just something you made up.
And oh yes, if anyone had remembered that tape earlier, it would have been released in the primaries.
Commensa "assumes" far too much.
Read 1:38 more carefully.
Are you daft? You honestly think those guys would have been talking like that in the bus if they had known a mike was live?
It's likely Trump didn't know. If Billy Bush didn't know them I'm sure his producers told him after the fact.
It defies reasonable belief that Billy Bush didn't know the tape existed long before yesterday.
"James linking three stories about the same civil lawsuit might qualify as spam."
It's allowed here, too.
It's likely Trump didn't know.
And it's just as likely that those comments are the real trumps private life and he got caught because of his HUGE ego and big mouth. But, since he wasn't a politician at that time, you give him a pass. LOL
I would like to hear from Ch on this,
not the usual inane blather from Commensa
and SAVAGE-etta RUSSO-PUTIN.
Seriously, does this recording actually surprise ANYONE?
This is Trump. This is who Trump has always been.
I don't know what you want James. He wrote an entire post on the subject.
Or are you just narcissistic enough to demand your comments should be responded to other than the mockery and ridicule they deserved.
There is serious rebellion now going on in the RNC.
See Roger's thread "I Screwed Up."
Also, just look at what has been appearing on politicalwire.com all during today. (Scroll down and scroll up to see the articles as they appeared -- doomsday for the Trump campaign.)
Grab them by the pussy” is Trump’s “47 percent” moment, only so much worse.
No surprise at all. Being from the NE, I always thought his ego and behavior were just plain stupid for years!!!. I always though the way he treated Marla was just abominable. But he had the money and got away with his womanizing. Oh well
COMMENSA: He wrote an entire post on the subject.
In which he made one major error of fact. See 1:38 above.
We hear from Bill Clinton's rape victim.
Juanita Broaddrick @atensnut
How many times must it be said? Actions speak louder than words. DT said bad things!HRC threatened me after BC raped me.
Juanita Broaddrick @atensnut
Hillary calls Trump's remarks "horrific" while she lives with and protects a "Rapist". Her actions are horrific.
CH ALSO SAID THIS IN CLOSING:
Like it or not... the genie is out of this bottle and past sexual indiscretion is likely going to be an ongoing topic of conversation. I find it almost without question that Trump (and surrogates) will respond in kind. In fact, people will now likely "expect" a proportional response in the coming days or weeks. I doubt very seriously whether or not marriage infidelity and sexual scandal is a debate that the Clintons want to engage in with anyone (even Donald Trump).
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Au contraire, Ch. Trump's advisers (the ones he has left) have been pleading with him NOT to go there as it will only arouse angry sympathy for Hillary.
In which he made one major error of fact. See 1:38 above.
Actually you made the major error. CH is quite correct.
Filing under the pseudonym "Jane Doe" is not coming forward. It's hiding behind legal anonymity.
Stop trolling me.
This is Trump. This is who Trump has always been.
Well judging from the Republican response, they were shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in this establishment.
But there is a tape to bring it home and at least half the women who were undecided at this point are not likely to go for Trump.
Typical CS BS.
Commonsense said...
We hear from Bill Clinton's rape victim.
And are those words are from a deposition? Or is that the final story. He said, she said. Sorry, unless you got it on tape, all you have is an anthony watts moment. LOL How long did she wait tp make the claim???
I meant at 3:02
And it's just as likely that those comments are the real trumps private life
Gee Opie I'm just wondering how many of your private conversations and opinions you would enjoy being broadcast all over the country?
Well judging from the Republican response
Judging from your response, you think trump is an alter boy and you also think gays should not have rights and GW is a hoax.
What really matters now, unless Trump jumps (which he says he will not) is the coming debate.
the debate. The Debate. THE Debate. THE DEBATE. THE DEBATE!!!!
I'm just wondering how many of your private conversations and opinions you would enjoy being broadcast all over the country?
Would not bother me at all. I'm not running for even dog catcher and would never grab a pussy because I was rich and thought it was cool . But then again, your brain damage is catching up. menstral.
"Also, just look at what has been appearing on politicalwire.com all during today. (Scroll down and scroll up to see the articles as they appeared -- doomsday for the Trump campaign.)"
See?
Spamming is allowed.
Menstral child thinks this is acceptable behavior for a POTUS. Idiot. I'm sure your simple wife thinks his actions are just fine. LOL
Earlier this week, Donald Trump tried to explain away his long history of outrageously misogynist comments by saying, “A lot of that was done for the purpose of entertainment.” It was obvious at the time that this was not true, and now we have conclusive proof. The Washington Post’s indefatigable David Fahrenthold has obtained a 2005 recording of Trump talking about women with Access Hollywood’s Billy Bush on a hot mic. In it, he boasts of how, when he sees a beautiful woman, he likes to start kissing her without preliminaries. “I don’t even wait,” Trump, said, as Bush eggs him on. “And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy.” This is how Trump talks privately, which is at once shocking and entirely unsurprising.
Spamming is allowed.
Especially yours, loretta. see above.
And are those words are from a deposition? Or is that the final story. He said, she said. Sorry, unless you got it on tape
I imagine it's on tape:
Broaddrick says she pushed Clinton away and told him she was married and not interested, but he persisted. As recounted in the NBC interview:[3]
Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip … He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him ‘No,’ that I didn’t want this to happen but he wouldn’t listen to me. … It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to ‘Please stop.’ And that’s when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip. … When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says ‘You better get some ice on that.’ And he turned and went out the door.”
When asked if there was any way Clinton could have thought it was consensual, Broaddrick said “No, not with what I told him and with how I tried to push him away. It was not consensual.”[3]
"We hear from Bill Clinton's rape victim."
Paula Jones, too.
I imagine it's on tape:
I was talking about what you claimed what hillary did. All you have is what she claims and IMHO that and a dollar can get you a cup of coffee. BTW, nice rip off from wikipedia. a source you normally hold in contempt. LOL
PLAGERISM!!! a la loretta.
Would not bother me at all. I'm not running for even dog catcher and would never grab a pussy
Sure Opie you're not bother at all.
As I'm sure you've had precious little opportunity to grab any pussy.
But don't worry, there's alway pie.
Paula Jones, too.
The peanut gallery arrives. Maybe you would like to have your pussy rubbed by trump without permission. But he's rich and a D in R clothing made in china. LOL
As I'm sure you've had precious little opportunity to grab any pussy.
I've had my fair share, but I never went anywhere without consent. Sorry numnutz, that's the MO of the guy you support and what I do or did has nothing to do with your own idiocy.
Stop trolling me.
In an election in which no individual outrage seems to matter, it’s possible that this one might. It’s not just that we have further evidence of what sort of person Trump is. Trump’s words sounded an awful lot like cavalier boasts about sexual assault. They’re particularly disturbing when you consider that Jill Harth, the makeup artist who accused Trump of attempted rape in a 1997 lawsuit, said that Trump grabbed her sexually. Ivanka Trump defended her father by insisting that the man she knows is “not a groper.” Now we know that Trump himself says otherwise. It is thus not just legitimate but imperative that journalists ask Trump what he meant by “Grab them by the pussy.” Luckily, there is a debate on Sunday.
From slate.
FROM OPIE.....
"The peanut gallery arrives. Maybe you would like to have your pussy rubbed by trump without permission. But he's rich and a D in R clothing made in china. LOL"
Just another trash blog.
Loretta Russo said...
Stop trolling me.
The go away. Its fun twisting you around especially now with your candidate screwing the pooch. But. you go service him, it is all he really knows.....pussy. Melodia is now pissed at him, and you are not. LOL
I've had my fair share, but I never went anywhere without consent. Sorry numnutz, that's the MO of the guy you support
I never supported Bill Clinton in my life. You on the other hand, did.
just another trash blog.
Yep.. you certainly took care of that, dumb ass.
I never supported Bill Clinton in my life
How is that relevant to your support of pussy rubbing trump?
White trash sewage.
You troll me,...
"The peanut gallery arrives. Maybe you would like to have your pussy rubbed by trump without permission. But he's rich and a D in R clothing made in china. LOL"
Pure white trash.
Pure white trash.
White trash sewage.
That's exactly the guy you support for POTUS. Nice going loretta, can you defend his comments about your privates??? I think not.
I don't talk to trolls.
I was talking about what you claimed what hillary did.
A day later she wrote: “I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me. I am now 73 it never goes away.”
And Paula Jones, who sued Mr. Clinton for sexual harassment, winning an $850,000 out-of-court settlement to drop the case, said earlier this month that Mrs. Clinton enabled her husband in his abuse.
“Well, she stood by her man, all right. And she allowed her husband to abuse women, to harass women, possibly other things that he did wrong to women. And she allowed it to happen. As a matter of fact, she would go out and she would try to discredit these women, including me,” Ms. Jones told Breitbart Radio.
All of Bill Clinton's victims said the same thing. Hillary Clinton tried to silence them either through blackmail or character assassination.
And she has plenty experience destroying rape victims:
In the 1980s as a young lawyer in Arkansas, Hillary Clinton took a case in which she represented a man accused of raping a 12-year-old girl.
In the interview obtained by the Washington Free Beacon Hillary Clinton discussed the case with Arkansas journalist Roy Reed:
“Do you remember that case where I represented that guy? It was a fascinating case. […] The guy was accused of raping a 12-year-old girl. Of course he claimed that he didn’t. All this stuff. He took a lie detector test. I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs (laughter).”
Hilary goes on to describe how the man got off by taking a plea deal with time served in county jail.
Here’s the audio:
After several decades the victim in that rape case is speaking out.
Kathy Shelton says, “Hillary Clinton is NOT for women and children.”
The Daily Mail reported:
A child rape victim says she cannot forgive Hillary Clinton for defending her rapist in court 40 years ago, saying the Democratic presidential candidate attacked her credibility despite knowing that her assailant was guilty – and later laughed about it in a taped interview.
Kathy Shelton was just 12 years old when a 41-year-old drifter raped her on the side of a desolate Arkansas road in 1975.
Now, four decades later, she has agreed to be named and pictured for the first time in this Daily Mail Online exclusive because she is furious that her rapist’s defense attorney – Hillary Clinton – has been portraying herself as a lifelong advocate of women and girls on the campaign trail.
‘It’s put a lot of anger back in me,’ said Shelton, now 54, in an exclusive interview at her Springdale, Arkansas, home in August. ‘Every time I see [Clinton] on TV I just want to reach in there and grab her, but I can’t do that.’
In 1975, Clinton served as the defense lawyer for Thomas Alfred Taylor, a 41-year-old factory worker accused of raping Shelton after luring her to his car.
Taylor pleaded down to ‘unlawful fondling of a minor’ and served less than a year in prison after Clinton was able to block the admission of forensic evidence that linked her client to the crime.
In a lengthy interview with the Daily Mail Online, Shelton said Clinton is ‘lying’ when she claims to be a lifelong defender of women and girls.
All allegations, menstral child. In a court of law, your evidence would be tossed out with you. Sorry you wasted so much time to find such credible sources like the washington times and the daily mail and caller. Guano. Nice try.
"The Hag has called us bimbos,sluts,trailer trash,whores,skanks. From one woman to her rapist's victims.When will u resign from ur campaign?"
Kathleen Willey
About time... Mc Cain withdraws endorsement 1 year after being called no hero because he was a POW. Wow, a whole year to realize what an ass trump is. Says something about the demeanor of John to support such a prick for the good of the party, I wonder what loretta's excuse is.? She must enjoy being groped by strangers.
Kathleen Willey
Another example of she said without proof of the actual words. Another toss it in the trash.
Stolen from James. Gee Loretta, I guess you like wallowing with pigs.
TRUMP: “My daughter is beautiful, Ivanka.”
STERN: “By the way, your daughter.”
TRUMP: “She’s beautiful.”
STERN: “Can I say this? A piece of ass.”
TRUMP: “Yeah.”
Stop trolling me
Loretta Russo said...
Stop trolling me
Why, it is too much fun twerking your bigoted support of the horses ass trump . Like I asked before, defend what trump as said about grabbing women because he can. You don't have the smarts to do it.
If you don't like it, go away with pauline, the salesman.
It's not me, it's the rules established by CH.
You three liberals are too chicken shit to follow rules.
"This is all I have been looking for. Not 100 comments of insults back and forth. If someone wants to engage in that, they can do so over at the legacy blog"
CH
1,The Economy and Jobs
2,Obamacare Rates sky rocking and cancellation of policies
3,Terrorism on the streets of the USA, repeatedly
Hillary can't debate those issues nor can HB, Jane or Odopium.
I decry the personal insults and crude, lewd language employed here. But SAVAGE-etta and Opie won't stop it.
John McCain has now joined 19 other Republican senators who have either called for Trump to step down or stated they will not vote for him, or both.
Shut up name calling troll.
So much depends on the debate now.
And when does it take place?
My goodness, tomorrow night!
Trump will be off balance and petulant, I'll bet.
He does not do well when he is really up against it.
And he is really up against it. (see below)
The Bottom Could Drop Out for Trump
Nate Silver: “If Trump gets stuck at 40 percent of the vote, you could wind up with an outcome like Clinton 51 percent, Trump 40 percent, Gary Johnson 7 percent, Jill Stein and others 2 percent, or something of that nature. That is, a double-digit win for Clinton, which could potentially yield somewhere around 400 votes for her in the Electoral College, and make states as exotic as Texas and Alaska competitive.
“That outcome might seem far-fetched. But in an election with high uncertainty, it shouldn’t be. Even before the “hot mic” tape, our model gave Clinton a 5 to 6 percentage point lead, and the error in the forecast is roughly symmetric. The polls could move by 5 or 6 points toward Trump, giving him a narrow win, or — equally likely, per our model — they could move by 5 or 6 points toward Clinton, giving her a double-digit margin. To put it another way, a Clinton landslide is no more far-fetched than a Trump victory — and given the events of the past 24 hours, probably less so.”
I like this even better:
GOP Exodus Could Cause a Wave
Sam Wang: “The insta-consensus among commentators is that somehow this event is a cause of Trump’s electoral doom. I think the logic is backwards – to me, the growing obviousness of his doom created an environment for this story to blow up. The genuinely new development is the impact for downticket – in both the Senate and the House.”
“Until now I thought the House was likely to remain Republican. But the fact that swing district Congresswoman Barbara Comstock has fled for the exit is an early indicator. If Trump is enough of an anchor, Democrats have an outside chance. However, at a minimum they need to win the national popular vote by 6-8%.”
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Wonder if they just might?
Spammer
All allegations, menstral child. In a court of law, your evidence would be tossed out with you.
Well if that is your standard then Trump would not be in trouble.
Or is it just you double standard you're talking about.
And speaking of double standards almost all experts agree Comey had sufficient evidence to indict and bring to trial Hillary Clinton, Cheryl Mills, and Huma Abedin for violations of the espionage act.
Other people have been convicted with less evidence.
Well if that is your standard then Trump would not be in trouble.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! You got nothing but hearsay and opinion. And your comey comment is just that, as stupid as the above. LOLO
Well it's a damn sight better than
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! .
I decry the personal insults and crude,
Good for you, james. I'm having way to much fun seeing that she cannot defend trumps disregard for women and if I am not mistaken, loretta might be one. LOL
Commonsense said...
Well it's a damn sight better than
Awesome menstral. Maybe you can defend trumps remarks. And please, no hillary , bill or JFK did it first since that seems to be your whole argument.
To put it another way, a Clinton landslide is no more far-fetched than a Trump victory — and given the events of the past 24 hours, probably less so.
Nate Silver
You're nothing but a white trash troll, so no one is surprised.
Fter issuing a statement that he had “no defense” for the leaked audio released earlier today which contained Trump saying that he likes to have sex with married women and thinks that his fame makes it so that woman don’t mind if he gropes them, Mike Pence has most likely withdrawn from the Trump campaign.
Earlier today Mike Pence was supposed to attend a rally in Wisconsin, after Trump had been uninvited by the top Republican in the country Speaker Paul Ryan. Since then – even more tapes have been released, and as a result Mike Pence’s campaign schedule has been removed from the Trump campaign website, meaning, he has no plans on the books to campaign for Trump any further.
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