The liberal left medis are doing backflips trying to portray Trump's wins with Ford and Carrier as something bad for the economy. Bloomberg's idiot editorial page is even arguing that Trump saving those jobs is the exact wrong approach while the TPP is the right one.
Trump is doing what Obama should have done in his first year.......focus on jobs.
Right now the Liberal leader is Pelosi, who by the way surpasses Clinton as the most powerful female politician in the US. At least with respect to a legitimate position.
I never really forgave Pelosi for her behavior in her trips to Iran and Syria, and she has been ineffective in shaping policy so it comes as a disappointment that she has retained her leadership position.
so it comes as a disappointment that she has retained her leadership position. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
disappointment???
i'm ecstatic.
and it certainly lays waste to roger's myth that liberals are smarter than conservatives.
Don't break out the bubbly yet, rrb, because it's dead certain that they'll have a strategy when they realize that drifting rudderless isn't working. Perhaps they still believe that Trump can't possibly get his way after assuming office, so they don't really need one. It should take maybe a week for reality to intrude - watch for some frantic scrambling come January.
Anonymous wphamilton said... Don't break out the bubbly yet, rrb, because it's dead certain that they'll have a strategy when they realize that drifting rudderless isn't working. Perhaps they still believe that Trump can't possibly get his way after assuming office, so they don't really need one. It should take maybe a week for reality to intrude - watch for some frantic scrambling come January. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
well wp, it appears that democrat options and paths to even a little bit of power are extremely limited.
allahpundit sums it up nicely:
"Just for fun, let me play devil’s advocate. Do House Democrats need a strategy? They’re the least powerful faction in the federal government. Chuck Schumer and his Senate Democrats at least have the filibuster (for now) to block Supreme Court appointments and bills they don’t like. Pelosi has nothing. She can’t set the House agenda, she can’t stop Paul Ryan and the GOP from passing whatever they like, and she doesn’t have enough seats to make Ryan particularly nervous about losing some Republican votes on any given proposal. She can’t even point to 2018 as a prime opportunity to take back the House. Democrats will probably pick up seats given that it’s a midterm election with someone from the other party in the White House, but Democrats were also probably going to take back the Senate this fall. Even if Team Blue does gain seats in the next Congress, they’d need to flip 25 or so to regain a majority, which is a tall order. They’re likely to be in the minority for Trump’s entire term as president. What “strategy” can anyone muster in that predicament?
One possibility, I guess, would be for Pelosi to huddle with Schumer, who has the only real Democratic leverage over policy right now, and come up with compromise proposals on policy matters where Ryan and McConnell are unlikely to be able to hold their caucuses together. If they can be proactive in promising the GOP some Democratic votes if they move a bit towards the center, it might make Republicans — Trump, especially — more inclined to buck the party line and make a deal."
The President Elect today, went to IndIana and took credit for keeping 1,000 jobs at the Carrier Mechanical HVAC factory. The truth is that he had no influence in this decision by Carrier. The state of Indiana gave the company a $700,000,000 tax break. But as usual, his speech, the first public appearance since November 8, was another campaign speech.
He didn't mention the tax breaks, or that another Carrier plant is closing, and the 700 jobs are going to, yes folks, Mexico. This speech was filled with the usual deceptive story telling.
Then, they flew on the Trump airliner, to Cincinnati Ohio. It was supposed to be a thank the Ohio, Presidential speech. But if you watch the speech on the YouTube video, you will see the usual "Lock her up" and build the wall.
If this is what we are looking at in the next four years, we will look like we lost our collective minds.
The state of Indiana gave the company a $700,000,000 tax break. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
you might want to check your math there, drama queen.
Carrier Will Receive $7 Million in Tax Breaks to Keep Jobs in Indiana
If this is what we are looking at in the next four years, we will look like we lost our collective minds. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
One extra zero made no difference. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
ok flash, how do you get from $7 MILL to $700 MILL with ONE extra zero???
The President Elect today, went to IndIana and took credit for keeping 1,000 jobs at the Carrier Mechanical HVAC factory. The truth is that he had no influence in this decision by Carrier. The state of Indiana gave the company a $7,000,000 tax break. But as usual, his speech, the first public appearance since November 8, was another campaign speech.
He didn't mention the tax breaks, or that another Carrier plant is closing, and the 700 jobs are going to, yes folks, Mexico. This speech was filled with the usual deceptive story telling.
Then, they flew on the Trump airliner, to Cincinnati Ohio. It was supposed to be a thank the Ohio, Presidential speech. But if you watch the speech on the YouTube video, you will see the usual "Lock her up" and build the wall.
If this is what we are looking at in the next four years, we will look like we lost our collective minds.
And you hated saving General Motors, that saved hundreds of thousand jobs. Compared to Carrier's break. It's cheap.
AMP - 9 hours ago - The deal means Carrier will still send an estimated 1,300 jobs to Mexico. Indiana state officials have agreed to give United Technologies Corp $7 million worth of tax breaks to encourage the company to keep at least 1,069 jobs at its Carrier unit in Indianapolis, Carrier and the state said on Thursday.
LANSING, Mich. — Supporters of President-elect Donald J. Trump have filed legal challenges in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan in a suddenly robust effort to stop the presidential election recount efforts there.
Trump didn’t stand up to Carrier,he offered it a bribe. But a thousand jobs in a huge economy; at the rate of one Carrier deal a week, it would take The President Elect to take 30 years to save as many jobs as President Obama did with the auto bailout that Trump hated. It would take him a 100 years to make up for the overall loss of manufacturing jobs just since 2000.
Yes the rest of the world is just amazed at how stupid we are.
The November jobs report looked pretty good on the surface except for one number that popped off the page: 95 million.
That's the number of Americans now counted as not in the labor force, a historic high that has confounded economists and policymakers. The total — 95.06 million to be more exact — has been rising consistently but surged by a gaudy 446,000 last month."
Yep, that is some kind of Legacy, Taking the labor Participation rate to a new historic Low.
" SNAP recipients totaled 33.5 million in 2009, the year the recession ended. In 2016, the number is at 45.3 million. The government shelled out $74 billion in benefits last year, about double the level of 2008."
Historic High people are having to stand in line for their next meal and every meal of the day.
Myballs said... So dopie acknowledges that the auto bailout wasn't obama.
Unlike you, I acknowledge facts. I don't seem to recall that I said it was Obama's baby. Why is it important to you that the fact is a fact???? Seems to me that you ignored the that you and others complained about Government Motors when obama finished the bailout. LOL. Try a little honesty instead of blaming me for accepting a fact. LOL.
Bush started the automobile bailout. But once Obama was President, the Republican party, that was never going to let him get credit for it. So they tried to block it. Remember ballsess, it was named Government Motors. And you whined incessantly about the bond holders got screwed.
Don't mess with a guy who has an almost photographic memory.
Trump may have ulterior motives for his jaw-dropping call to Taiwan Friday, considering his company is looking to build luxury hotels and resorts on the rogue Chinese providence, Shanghaiist reports.
Trump shocked political observers Friday, initiating the first US-Taiwanese presidential contact in over three decades. The move risked a major dispute with China, which considers Taiwan to be one of its providences. In 1979, the U.S. adopted a One China position, freezing diplomatic relations with Taiwan.
Report Advertisement Despite the historically frosty relations between the United States and Taiwan, Trump picked up the phone to peak with Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen, incensing Beijing according to geopolitical experts.
As it turns out, the head-scratching move by Trump may not be so surprising afterall. The Gothamist LLC publication Shanghaiist—which covers news and events in China—Trump is eyeing Taiwan as his next location for a series of luxury hotels and resorts.
In November, the mayor of Taoyuan, Taiwan confirmed to China Times that a representative from the Trump Organization visited the municipality in September. Reports indicate Trump’s son Eric Trump will visit Taiwan later this year to discuss “a large-scale urban development project aimed at capitalizing on Taoyuan’s status as a transport hub for East Asia.”
Questions about potential conflicts-of-interest have plagued Trump since the beginning of his transition in November. After an onslaught of criticism, the president-elect vowed to leave his “great business in order to fully focus on running the country.”
During his call with Ing-wen, Trump congratulated her on her recent election and “noted the close economic, political, and security ties” that exist between Taiwan and the United States.
"Friday on ABC’s “The View,” while discussing a Harvard University forum Thursday where top members of both the Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton presidential campaigns got into heated exchanges, co-host Joy Behar explained that Clinton supporters are being sore losers, saying, “We’re sore losers because it wasn’t won legitimately, as far as I’m concerned.”
Behar said, “Yes, we’re sore losers, because a lot of the reason he won is based on the racism, the Russian hacking, lies, continuous lying that went on, and the intrusion of the FBI at the last minute there. All of that seems to have basically distorted the whole election. So, yeah, we’re sore losers because it wasn’t won legitimately, as far as I’m concerned.”"
This might be worse on this Blogs Mutt then the Kerry in a landslide loss and the GORE WON combined with President Trump Saving 40,000 plus jobs already.
We don’t yet know terms of the public/private deal that was cut to make the company stay, but let’s hope every business is equally incentivized to keep Americans working in America. Foundational to our exceptional nation’s sacred private property rights, a business must have freedom to locate where it wishes. In a free market, if a business makes a mistake (including a marketing mistake that perhaps Carrier executives made), threatening to move elsewhere claiming efficiency’s sake, then the market’s invisible hand punishes. Thankfully, that same hand rewards, based on good business decisions.
But this time-tested truth assumes we’re operating on a level playing field. When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent. Meanwhile, the invisible hand that best orchestrates a free people’s free enterprise system gets amputated. Then, special interests creep in and manipulate markets. Republicans oppose this, remember? Instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? Because we know special interest crony capitalism is one big fail.
Politicians picking and choosing recipients of corporate welfare is railed against by fiscal conservatives, for it’s a hallmark of corruption. And socialism. The Obama Administration dealt in it in spades. Recall Solyndra, Stimulus boondoggles, and all their other taxpayer-subsidized anchors on our economy. A $20 trillion debt-ridden country can’t afford this sinfully stupid practice, so vigilantly guard against its continuance, or we’re doomed. Reaganites learned it is POLICY change that changes economic trajectory. Reagan’s successes were built on establishing a fiscal framework that invigorated our entire economy, revitalized growth and investment while decreasing spending, tax rates, over-reaching regulations, unemployment, and favoritism via individual subsidies. We need Reaganites in the new Administration.
However well meaning, burdensome federal government imposition is never the solution. Never. Not in our homes, not in our schools, not in churches, not in businesses. Gotta’ have faith the Trump team knows all this. And I’ll be the first to acknowledge concerns over a deal cut by leveraging taxpayer interests to make a manufacturer stay put are unfounded – once terms are made public.
But know that fundamentally, political intrusion using a stick or carrot to bribe or force one individual business to do what politicians insist, versus establishing policy incentivizing our ENTIRE ethical economic engine to roar back to life, isn’t the answer. Cajole only chosen ones on Main St or Wall St and watch lines stretch from Washington to Alaska full of businesses threatening to bail unless taxpayers pony up. The lines strangle competition and really, really, dispiritingly screw with workers’ lives. It’s beyond unacceptable, so let’s anticipate equal incentivizes and positive reform all across the field – to make the economy great again.
Tax incentives are traditional ways to attract and retain businesses in a state or city. It's reaching to call that crony capitalism.
We have bigger things to worry about. Whatever Trump did for Carrier, he might decide that it worked so well that he'll extend something similar to every large business in America.
Whatever Trump did for Carrier, he might decide that it worked so well that he'll extend something similar to every large business in America. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
indeed.
and we will refer to it as a reduction in the corporate tax rate.
currently at 35%, i'd like to see it get down to 15%.
money flows to where it is treated the best. if liberals could ever wrap their heads around that fundamental principle, we might be able to make some actual 'progress' around here.
If McCain had that number, you would have put him next to Saint Ronald of the Reagan on Mount Rushmore, South Dakota. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
not if he had to drive 90+ MILLION people out of the workforce to get there.
you see rog, this topic, like all others that would address your dear leader's legacy, is built on a mount everest of lies.
as i am usually wont to do, i take 0linsky's bullshit unemployment number of 4.6% and i double it. what i get is usually very close to the actual unemployment number - the U-6, which is standing at an embarrassingly high 9.3% for november.
AREN'T YOU PROUD OF YOUR PRESIDENT ELECT? DON'T YOU WISH EVERYBODY WAS? _____________
Ambassador Trump Steps in It Again
Donald Trump ruffled feathers earlier this week when he chatted with the president of Pakistan and pledged to, "play any role you want me to play to address and find solutions to the country's problems." He was at it again on Friday, when he placed a friendly phone call to President Tsai Ing-wen of Taiwan.
The problem here is that when the President of the United States calls Tsai Ing-wen, he is acknowledging that she exists. And if she exists, then the government of Taiwan exists, which is a view that the Chinese government most certainly does not share.
Well aware of this protocol, President Obama has never called Tsai, just as a string of presidents never got Yasser Arafat on the phone, or Abraham Lincoln never sent a telegram to Jefferson Davis.
In the span of a few days, then, Trump has stirred the pot for two of the world's biggest hotspots. Perhaps next he can challenge Kim Jong-un to a hand size contest, or can advise the Irish that England is really a "terrific" country to take orders from.
Kellyanne Conway was on Anderson Cooper's show, and insisted that Trump knows what he is doing. However, she could not explain what that might be, nor could she grasp the difference between, say, President-elect Obama placing a call to the leader of Argentina in 2008 and Trump calling Tsai.
In the absence of an explanation, then let's step in and fill the gap with a few theories:
Theory 1: He's an id-driven ignoramus: This is the theory that many Democrats likely ascribe to, and there may be some truth to it, inasmuch as Trump is clearly guided by gut instinct more than anything else. However, he has shown us time and again that there is some method to the madness, so it's probably time to stop underestimating him.
Theory 2: He thinks diplomacy is the same as business: Trump's approach to foreign affairs has been classic Dale Carnegie-style networking. You call people, flatter them a bit, ask how you can help them, and promise you'll talk again later. Once that seed has had a chance to grow into a tree, you hit them again with your sales pitch. The Donald is not entirely wrong about this, if this is indeed his thinking, but he's also not entirely right. China vs. Taiwan or India vs. Pakistan are not the same as McDonald's vs. Burger King or Pepsi vs. Coke.
Theory 3: He's running foreign affairs like he ran his campaign: Over and over during the campaign season, the pros told Trump he was doing it wrong. He ignored them, and was proven right. Now, it sure looks like he is at it again. And while it's true that the experts are wrong sometimes (see every pollster in the world, 2012-2016), he might do well to recall that they are not always wrong.
Theory 4: It's a conspiracy: Now, let's engage in some 9/11-truther level craziness. It's still believable that Trump never really wanted this job, and that he did everything to torpedo himself, and that he was a success nonetheless. Sort of a political version of the musical "The Producers" (where the main characters try to produce a guaranteed flop, staging a Nazi-themed musical, only to have it become a smashing success). Anyhow, maybe Trump is desperately trying to give the electors cause to vote against him, sparing him the presidency while still saving face, and allowing him to spend the rest of his life complaining, which he loves to do.
It may be that all four of these is right, or that none of them are. We may know more when (and if) Trump sees fit to share his vision, but we probably won't really know until a few years have passed. Here's hoping we learn without World War III getting underway. (Bates)
Other Indiana Companies Are Also Planning to Ship Jobs to Mexico
Using state tax incentives, Donald Trump managed to convince Carrier to save about 1,000 factory jobs in Indiana. It will be interesting to see how he goes about saving the jobs of other Indiana factory workers that are about to be shipped to Mexico or out of state. CNN has compiled a list of them:
United Technologies electronic controls plant in Huntington, IN (700 jobs)
Rexnord's bearing plant in Indianapolis (350 jobs)
Manitowoc Foodservice's plant in Sellersburg, IN that makes food and beverage equipment (84 jobs)
GE's appliance plant in Bloomington, IN (329 jobs)
Stanrail's plant making car parts in Gary, IN (100 jobs)
Paoli furniture factory in Orleans, IN (367 jobs)
Kellogg's plant in Seelyville, IN, which makes Cheez-It and Keebler snacks (150 jobs)
As every economist in the country who has weighed in on the Carrier deal has said, the president cannot intervene every time a company threatens to close a plant and build a new one in Mexico. He has to attack job loss at the macroeconomic level. That is Trump's challenge. If he fails, jobs will just continue moving south. (Tannenbaum) ____________ Why no. Messiah Trump will save the day, every single time.
Today in Schadenfreude: Russian Central Bank Hacked
After months (and years) of mucking around in the affairs of other nations, the Russians got a taste of their own medicine this week, when hackers attacked the Russian Central Bank and absconded with 2 billion rubles (about $31 million).
In addition, to add insult to injury, they spread false news stories on Twitter and on social media on the subject of how weak the Russian financial system is, and how it is likely to completely collapse.
Russian authorities say they shut down the hacking and the fake news before any serious damage could be done. Given that the rubles are long gone and the story has made the news across the world, we'd say that they are in error. (Bates)
Well aware of this protocol, President Obama has never called Tsai _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
true.
instead he chose to fellate the castro brothers and the iranian mullahs.
a quick chat with the president of taiwan looks mild and sane by comparison.
i'll give you assholes credit for one thing - when you embrace hypocrisy you go big.
Anonymous caliphate4vr said... Kerry: People can't tell 'what's real and what isn't' _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
kinda like 0linsky whining about fake news to the purveyor of a fake news rape story at the university of virginia.
"This is one of our chief challenges today, is to manage information and to do it in a way that average folks at home can know what's real and what isn't, what's true, what's false, and try to build consensus around a common set of understandings," Kerry said during the Mediterranean Dialogues Conference in Rome.
well lurch, perhaps you could have james taylor write you a song about say, our U-6 unemployment number. or the actual terms of the iran nuke deal. or the groober-ized ACA. or the GM bailout and how the bondholders got fucked. or the smidgens of corruption at the IRS. or the root cause of the benghazi terror attack.
just to name a few things that are quite 'real.' at least to those who've been fucked by them.
Jonathan Chait: “Consider how the world looked eight years ago.
The Republicans lost power amid having let Osama bin Laden and his followers escape in Afghanistan, launched a failed war on the basis of misleading intelligence, managed a scandal-ridden administration stuffed with hacks, handed off an economy plunging into the worst crisis since the Great Depression, and had its outgoing president’s approval ratings bottoming out in the 20s.
Barack Obama leaves office with a growing economy throwing off wage gains up and down the income ladder, and with a president whose approval rating has risen into the upper 50s.
Some conservative intellectuals tried to grapple with their party’s governing failure in the Bush years, but their mental exertions wound up having no bearing at all on the circumstances that brought their party back to power. Sometimes there is no moral, just a bunch of stuff that happens.”
“The party that needs to search its soul about whether it has the capacity to govern competently is not the one out of power. And what should concern Democrats is not whether they’ll get back in power BUT WHAT WILL BE LEFT OF THE COUNTRY WHEN THEY DO.”
Paul Krugman: “Donald Trump won the Electoral College (though not the popular vote) on the strength of overwhelming support from working-class whites, who feel left behind by a changing economy and society. And they’re about to get their reward — the same reward that, throughout Mr. Trump’s career, has come to everyone who trusted his good intentions. Think Trump University.”
“Yes, the white working class is about to be betrayed.”
“The evidence of that coming betrayal is obvious in the choice of an array of pro-corporate, anti-labor figures for key positions. In particular, the most important story of the week — seriously, people, stop focusing on Trump Twitter — was the selection of Tom Price, an ardent opponent of Obamacare and advocate of Medicare privatization, as secretary of health and human services. This choice probably means that the Affordable Care Act is doomed — and Mr. Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters will be among the biggest losers.”
Paul Krugman: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
is this the same paul krugman who told us the day after election day that the stock market would collapse and never recover?
and i quote: "If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."
So we are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight. I suppose we could get lucky somehow. But on economics, as on everything else, a terrible thing has just happened.
"he’s been hit with $65,000 in fines for improper use of campaign funds — money it sounds like he doesn’t have."
Wonder if he's thought of auctioning off his laptop with Huma's copy of the Clinton emails. Think of the bidding war between the Clinton Foundation, foreign governments, alt-right groups ...
Now that I think about it, imagine having that laptop for years, all this going on, and never thinking of cashing in. Or turning it over to the FBI for that matter. Imagine Huma, Clinton's trusted aid, knowing about it and never taking care of it. There must be drugs involved.
President Obama’s seven year quest to salvage the U.S. economy from the damage done to it by his predecessor George W. Bush has been an overwhelming success, according to the United States Treasury Department. Obama took over as President at a time when the economy, stock market and banking system had collapsed and were on the verge of throwing the nation into a depression due to Bush’s failed policies. But Obama’s initiatives prevented that from happening, and now the Treasury says he’s fully turned the economy around.
Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has confirmed what economists and those familiar with economic policy have already known: the U.S. economy has been growing at a steady rate for several quarters, private sector job growth is consistently high, the unemployment rate has been reduced all the way down to the five percent level which economists view as ideal, and the stock market has grown tremendously. This all occurred even as President Obama reduced the annual federal deficit by seventy-two percent. But the Secretary says there are still challenges ahead.
Lew points to the inequality between the wealthy and the working class, and business tax loopholes, as areas of concern; Obama has tried to tackle both but has faced republican opposition. But he says Social Security is in far better shape than most Americans believe. The Hill has more from the Treasury Secretary.
...his legacy will be bathrooms. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
no shit.
once trump finishes running 0linsky's legacy through a shredder, all skeets will be left with will be his final frontier of rest rooms for sexual predators and the chronically confused.
jimmy carter has got to be ecstatic that he lived to see this. he can go to his grave confident in the knowledge that he was not the biggest failure to ever occupy the oval office.
“What we’ve learned in 2016 is that the left loves poor people when they’re huddled in food banks, hungry, exhausted, desperately looking for dinner, but hates them when they cockily walk into polling stations and say ‘Fuck your status quo.'”
we will refer to it as a reduction in the corporate tax rate.
currently at 35%, i'd like to see it get down to 15%.
money flows to where it is treated the best. if liberals could ever wrap their heads around that fundamental principle, we might be able to make some actual 'progress' around here."
And drop the Obama punitive tax on money made by US Companies abroad and comes back to the USA< oh wait, 2.6 Trillion is sitting off shore because the earners of that cash do not want to simply hand a lot of it over. Enter President Elect Trump, a much lower rate on REPATRIOTED money and into banks, businesses and loans her at home, building the US Economy back from the burning train wreck that is Obamanomics will take two Terms.
Seen in allahpundit.....just as credible. LOL. Why don't you compose something just as profound as that instead of just posting others thoughts as your own. dayum, no wonder why you never finished ag school, too hard!!!
In the run up to the election, I don't recall the Mutt or YOU talking about the race would be declared by following the ROAD TO MOST VOTES, in the Real world it is the Race to 270, your gal failed.
California Clinton 8,581,312 Trump 4,393,409
the diff= 4,187,903
Opuim like all special kind of stupid liberal sissy's you too are losey at math,,, She won CA by 4,187,903. The Mutts nipping has been to whimper "Hillary won by 2.2 million votes.
So IF she won, by only 2.2 million votes, yet she left CA with a lead of over 4 million, she lost the other 56 states by a lot.
IF you can't get the point now, then you are too dumb for words, other then call you part of the Mutt's litter of special stupid pups.
Paul the special kind of stupid puppy:
"It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?" Morning of Mourning
November 9th , the very morning I moved 60 K into the market at the open investing in Trump's America and the SP 500 Vanguard fund.
Trump won with 57 % of the Electorial Votes,,, is that a landslide, I don't know and I don't care, the VICTORY is sweet because he Beat Hillary Obama Biden Polosie and others on the left.
The Mutt (aka HB) never learns, not in 12 years of attempting to educate him he is still a financial failure, he can't learn he is the poster boy of the special kind of stupid , she never looks past the headlines of economic news.
The Mutt ran in breathless to report that unemployment is reportedly at 4.6 , never mind that "some people gave up looking for work — about 226,000 left the labor force, and the participation rate declined to 62.7 "
95 million people of working age are unemployed. That is the worklessness of the state of Obama.
What happened to the middle income and low income earner, well , to find the facts of the report you have to read past the headlines and one finds this "Average hourly earnings declined by 3 cents ".
over 4 million, she lost the other 56 states by a lot.
A lot??? Brilliant commentary dirt farmer. BTW, obama had 332 electoral votes and no one claimed it as a landslide, especially mitch mcdonnell. lol go plant a potato.
It is true however, if you don't count California, Trump won the popular vote in the rest of the country. By a LOT. Clinton won California.
If the margin in CA actually meant anything, we'd just skip the election and award the Presidency to whatever Democrat was running. CA has a lot of influence, but the rest of the country chose Trump.
The Democrats need to accept that fact, and then they need to honestly determine "why" they failed in the Nation beyond California, and finally they need to change those things which led to Clinton's failure. Obsessing on the mythical "popular vote" leads only to more failures.
wp, I heard something today, that made a lot of sense.
Both parties suck.
The Democrats are too elitist and did not understand that how the rust belt voters are struggling, and Clinton didn't recognize the problem. Thousands who voted for Obama twice, voted for Trump because they believed that he cares for them. Clinton didn't address that.
The majority of Republicans are no racist. But the Republicans have attractive the bigot and racists. They need to separate themselves from them. Trump exploited them. They need to repudiate them.
wp, I heard something today, that made a lot of sense.
Both parties suck.
The Democrats are too elitist and did not understand that how the rust belt voters are struggling, and Clinton didn't recognize the problem. Thousands who voted for Obama twice, voted for Trump because they believed that he cares for them. Clinton didn't address that.
The majority of Republicans are no racist. But the Republicans have attractive the bigot and racists. They need to separate themselves from them. Trump exploited them. They need to repudiate them.
A phone call between Donald Trump and Taiwan's leader that risks damaging relations between the U.S. and China was pre-arranged, a top Taiwanese official told NBC News on Saturday...."Maintaining good relations with the United States is as important as maintaining good relations across the Taiwan Strait," Taiwanese presidential spokesman Alex Huang told NBC News. "Both are in line with Taiwan's national interest."
And this:
The call was planned in advance with knowledge of Trump’s transition team and was the right thing to do, said Stephen Yates, a former U.S. national security official who served under President George W. Bush. Yates denied multiple media reports that he arranged the call, while adding that it doesn’t make sense for the U.S. to be “stuck” in a pattern of acquiescing to China over Taiwan.
A phone call between Donald Trump and Taiwan's leader that risks damaging relations between the U.S. and China was pre-arranged, a top Taiwanese official told NBC News on Saturday...."Maintaining good relations with the United States is as important as maintaining good relations across the Taiwan Strait," Taiwanese presidential spokesman Alex Huang told NBC News. "Both are in line with Taiwan's national interest."
And this:
The call was planned in advance with knowledge of Trump’s transition team and was the right thing to do, said Stephen Yates, a former U.S. national security official who served under President George W. Bush. Yates denied multiple media reports that he arranged the call, while adding that it doesn’t make sense for the U.S. to be “stuck” in a pattern of acquiescing to China over Taiwan.
I'm talking about this year's presidential race specifically — and even more specifically, about the Clinton campaign's responsibility for flubbing an election that it should have won in a landslide. I don't care if the "fundamentals" favored the GOP. Trump was a fundamentals-defying opponent who should have landed flat on his face regardless of the baseline assumptions. I don't care if Clinton racks up a nearly 3 million vote lead in the popular tally by grabbing up gobs of electorally superfluous ballots in California. She lost the election because she failed to win where she needed to win and where Democrats had a long record of winning — the upper Midwest — as well as where they win when they're doing their jobs well (Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina). That's a sign of a campaign screw-up of monumental proportions.
Almost a month after Hillary Clinton's loss to Donald Trump, recriminations are still flying among liberals and Democrats.
At least one prominent Clinton loyalist has turned his fire on Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), arguing that the left-winger's challenge wounded the former secretary of State ahead of her general election campaign."
How cute this writer believes their is a difference between Democrat and Liberal.
Hillary won CA and lost votes after that, to lower her net vote count, what difference that makes at this point.
It was good to see the Mutt, Jane and Opuim express the want for Trump to be a two term President, because to do other wise would expose their hypocrisy again on yet another topic.
i-i-it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled … uh to every corner of the United States. Uh, I’ve now been in fifty … ss-seven? states. I think one left to go." Obimbo
They need to repudiate them. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
look at ALL of the election results, rog. national, state, local.
the GOP cleaned up, and the only people we need to repudiate are liberals and democrats.
RRB, The Mutt is too stupid, he calls on us to repudiate, but, leave out that the KKK is of his party, Wallace and Bird.
The Mutt also fails to put down the rioters and thugs of BlackLiesMatter and of Hillary Rent a mob at Trump Rallies.
SO for The Mutt to ever attempt to preach to us is laughable, just like his personal finance.
Trump won on one simple topic, the number one topic no matter you are white, black or brown, no matter if your a liberal, Indy or Conservative. Trump won on JOBS.
Jobs you know the very thing that keeps 95 million people out of the workforce that has given us a historic low in labor participation. The same people that gave up HOPE under Obama and have found HOPE with TRUMP.
LOL idiot......he won in a landslide in DC which is what the article was about.. You should actually read shit before looking dumber than you really are!!!! Keep posting, its sooooo much fun watch you being stupid. LOL Thanx for the laugh at your expense.
Blogger Roger Amick said... wp, I heard something today, that made a lot of sense. Both parties suck. The Democrats are too elitist
This much is true, and Clinton specifically pretty much set the standard for "elitist". I believe that her campaign failed Obama personally, and that a schism will develop between Clinton elitists and Obama progressives, and that she can no longer expect assistance, of any kind, from that quarter.
Trump is an anti-Party and there is still a lot of bad blood under the surface between he and the GOP elite. Our next President is a pig in a poke; we don't really know what he's up to. But I strongly suspect that he knew exactly what he was doing when taking that call from Taiwan, and in his conversation with Sharif from Pakistan for that matter. He is establishing a negotiating position with other Asian nations, and with India, respectively.
KD most of what we know about Trump politically, prior to this election, is contradictory. His prior candidacies all had the flavor of publicity stunts as did even this one initially.
We know that Trump is the self-styled "King of Debt" but would he translate that to the nation's budget? Does his distaste for taxes on his businesses translate to lower taxes for all businesses, now that he represents the tax collector? Who knows.
KD, IRA out of My Health Care, best news of the Day
said...
Well, our loser friend Opium and HB told us that the National Debt does not matter, having taken it from 10 Trillion to 21 Trillion in just 8 years, IF Trump on average takes it up a Trillion a year over his two terms then he wins.
How will it translate, first off , he does not have to have a budget passed in his first term, just keeping with the Obama standard.
Then he needs to drop the rates on working people , ALL working people, Drop the rates on investing People and then drop the corporate rates and then lastly drop the punish current rates on earning over seas, get part of that 2.6 Trillion Dollars that is off shore back working at home, I think his rate for Re- Patriotion of that money.
The doubling of the individual Federal personal deduction is going to be Yuge.
The IRS works for the President. Trump will need the revenue for his infrastructure projects and, I dunno, national resort hotels. So Trump now represents the tax collector.
I mean really, after 8 years of full on printing and spending are we now to believe the Budget and National Debt now matters?
Indeed it does. You may recall what I wrote here soon after Obama's election. I opined that after eight years I might support the Republicans for executive office and Congress, to reapply fiscal discipline. (Or maybe you don't, given the evident memory lapses of another writer here).
While I didn't wind up supporting the Republican candidate, I see no reason to move from my reasoning.
KD, I say take the National Debt to 25 trillion, same standards for ALL
said...
WP, no need to move from you opinion, OK.
But, looks like a double standard in my opinion.
Your support of anyone but Trump , yet you want him to impose fiscal austerity , that of which never happened with Obama , would not happen with Hillary. Any other vote was a throw away in the trash vote.
I see Hillary is going to stand with Stien of a Federal Level Law Suit seeing those gal pals can win with the people, go to the Federal Courts and go Judge Shopping.
Trump "stole" the Idea from Hillary, Dems in us house and senate will vote for it in droves.
"His call for a repatriation holiday of 10 percent for the more than a trillion dollars in corporate cash parked overseas is among the ideas getting the most chatter on Wall Street right now. It's also possible Hillary Clinton would propose a similar policy, with some conditions, analysts said.
"Given the upcoming elections, there is newfound hope that the presidential candidates would be willing to push for a tax holiday so as to bring back the funds, encouraging its use for capital spending and job creation. Donald Trump already has advocated that idea," Citi Research's Tobias Levkovich wrote in a note to clients Friday.
Strategas Research sees several other positive ramifications of corporate cash repatriation.
"The most efficient way to do that is to impose a one-time tax on the existing foreign profits overseas which will free up the cash for companies to use for dividends, share repurchases, M&A, capital expenditures, and to pay down debt," Strategas' Daniel Clifton"
I see it as having different priorities at different times, based on what I perceive to be the most pressing problems faced by the nation. We have a different economic environment now, with a number of consumer protections in place and other protections of our rights - which were pretty urgent at the time. National debt was an unfortunate byproduct, especially with the establish need to protect big business, big finance, or the wealthiest 1% depending on which side of the partisan divide. Now it may be possible to rein in the most wasteful or extravagant expenditures. So I don't see it as a double standard.
Regarding Stein filing in Federal court for the Pa recount: I haven't actually seen that filing in the news yet, but only Stein's claim that she's going to. I have only seen the vague "constitutional grounds" for the anticipated action. As we all know, that isn't enough. You need to base it on some right guaranteed by the Constitution (but not necessarily enumerated) such as "equal protection". Or else a ruling that the associated State Constitution has been abused, but Stein hasn't indicated that. I don't believe that it's been filed yet, and if it is eventually filed with such vague cause it will be universally seen as frivolous. All of this, plus the inevitable cost of a Federal lawsuit against the caliber of lawyers she will face makes me skeptical that it will happen.
Trump will need the revenue for his infrastructure projects
His plan is to have the companies who provide the infrastructure come up with their own financing and tax breaks. A true bait and switch with no commitment of funds from the trump admin.
Anonymous KD, IRA out of My Health Care, best news of the Day said... Well, our loser friend Opium and HB told us that the National Debt does not matter
LOL. Keep making stuff up, it makes you a non thinking republicon'......
Since the scheme relies on privatization for infrastructure projects that won't produce much revenue (as public infrastructure), it's pretty clear that the projects will ultimately be funded by tax revenue.
It's not as byzantine as it's made out though. Privatization with the concordant competition, along with tax breaks and incentives, are designed to make the work itself less expensive. The actual projects will be initiated and remain funded in the same way, at the same level of government, as they are now. Except costing less, leads to greater demand and there will be more projects.
In a way it's attractive, but begs two immediate questions. First, those tax breaks and incentives are debited somewhere, and fiscal discipline demands that some tax revenue offsets it. Second, there isn't any guarantee that it really will stimulate infrastructure building, because the contractor cost of doing business isn't necessarily the primary impediment. At best this can be one element of a broader plan.
I got sick and tired of the racist rodent posting at the top of the legacy blog, and all of them are nothing more than silly pictures. He's not capable of writing a coherent, grammatically correct, so we shall see how many hits the rrb legacy blog hits. It has 752 in the last week, the vast majority of them were on my posts, so want to bet he's going to get lucky to get 200 a week?
wp: But I strongly suspect that he knew exactly what he was doing when taking that call from Taiwan, and in his conversation with Sharif from Pakistan for that matter. He is establishing a negotiating position with other Asian nations, and with India, respectively.
I don't think Trump is capable of thinking with that much depth. He went on Twitter last night at 2; 00 AM bitching about SNL making fun of him, again.
More likely, we are going to be subject to impulsive, shallow and angry leadership. God help this great nation.
This is exactly what I was afraid of. You will probably embrace it given your tendency towards dictatorships, like Trump.
CNN Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror.
In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet.
"We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."
Some totalitarian governments do it
The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising.
Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about.
Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it.
Do you really think FDR would ever allow Axis Anne or Tokyo Rose to broadcast on the NBC radio network?
This is war. The only reason to allow ISIS internet access is to gather intelligence on it.
Otherwise, shut them down.
Does your warped sense of free speech allows ISIS to spread their hate propaganda on the internet but prevent conservatives to speak on university campuses?
I have been a proud support of you, since I saw your first speech at the Democratic national convention.
I am respectfully requesting that you take action on the Stranding Rock civil rights movement. I think that this will be seen as one of your many successful actions as our President. The Native Americans deserve to keep their sacred land.
Sincerely,
Roger L. Amick
Sent a few couple hours ago. They just directed that they explore an alternate route!!!!
NYTimes: Alternate Route for Dakota Pipeline to Be Explored This is a victory for the Native Americans and the country at large! He responded to my request?????😁😁😁😁😁😁
Some of us are old to enough remember how the Tea Party movement was disgusted by Obama saving the entire auto industry (1.5m jobs) in 2009 at a cost of $9bn. (Cost of Trump’s job savings: $7,000 per job. Cost of Obama’s job savings: $6,000 per job. That’s socialism for you.)😁😁😁😁😁😁
Comedian Stephen Colbert announced Thursday that he would fund every existing grant request South Carolina public school teachers have made on the education crowdfunding website DonorsChoose.org.
Colbert made the announcement on a live video feed Thursday at a surprise event at Alexander Elementary School in Greenville.
Colbert partnered with Share Fair Nation and ScanSource to fund nearly 1,000 projects for more than 800 teachers at over 375 schools, totaling $800,000.
There are certainly a lot of teachers in South Carolina celebrating this week. Thank you, Stephen Colbert! 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Roger Amick said... Some of us are old to enough remember how the Tea Party movement was disgusted by Obama saving the entire auto industry (1.5m jobs) in 2009 at a cost of $9bn. (Cost of Trump’s job savings: $7,000 per job. Cost of Obama’s job savings: $6,000 per job. That’s socialism for you.) __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
LIE.
the bailout cost $79.7B.
0linsky only managed to LOSE about $9.3B.
yeah, that's socialism for you. fail miserably and lie about success.
Toyota, FORD and Mazda and Nissian and others never took a dime of GOV'T money. The Mutt is attempting to make up his own facts and do a complete re-write of history.
What is next as Hillary continues to file lawsuits on the over with election, IF she keeps counting she can find many another vote for her, they have spent millions and found one for her.
The fact that Trump saved the very jobs at the very plant the effected the very people OBAMA said he was helpless to do anything about. And that these jobs are all union jobs is what has the liberals steamed. The Mutt's Math is off, it always is, $7,000 a year per job, ,nope, that is not the truth. But the truth never ever gets in the way.
The California congressman appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday and instead said the issue facing Democrats is simply a failure of communication.
DICKERSON: “The Democratic Party is in a moment of questioning about its identity. You were reelected to lead the Democrats in the House. What do you tell Democrats who want a new direction and then, go to you, what are you going to do differently?”
"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that despite Democrats losing the House, Senate, and almost two-thirds of state houses, the American people don't want a new direction.
The California congressman appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday and instead said the issue facing Democrats is simply a failure of communication.
DICKERSON: “The Democratic Party is in a moment of questioning about its identity. You were reelected to lead the Democrats in the House. What do you tell Democrats who want a new direction and then, go to you, what are you going to do differently?”
PELOSI: “Well, I don’t think people want a new direction. Our values unify us and our values are about supporting America’s working families. That’s one that everyone is in agreement on. What we want is a better connection of our message to working families in our country, and that clearly in the election showed that that message wasn’t coming through."
No dear, respectfully, the message did come thru loud and clear, you and your ideals failed. The nation is in a Recession (HB called the W years a Depression) in many parts of the Nation, you might want to look at the winning message and move to help that mandate .
AP On Monday, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said progress with the Chinese could be "undermined" by a flare-up over the sovereignty of Taiwan, the self-governing island the U.S. broke diplomatic ties with in 1979. That split was part of an agreement with China, which claims the island as its own territory, although the U.S. continues to sell Taiwan billions in military equipment and has other economic ties.
China:
China: The biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt had $1.22 trillion in bonds, notes and bills in July, down $22 billion from the prior month, in the biggest drop since 2013, according to U.S. Treasury Department data released Friday in Washington and previous figures compiled by Bloomberg.
The portfolio of Japan, the largest holder after China, rose $6.9 billion to $1.15 trillion. Saudi Arabia’s holdings of Treasuries declined for a sixth straight month, to $96.5 billion.
In short, China could wreak havoc if they called in our debt. Russia is a key trade partner with China. Who will the Russians stand with? And bashing on China’s controversial South China Sea bases? On Twitter? Donald Trump is pushing into uncharted and very dangerous waters with his Twitter account…..and he hasn’t even taken the oath of office yet. He may do more than wreck the U.S. economy. He may drag us into full-scale military confrontation.
On Twitter the Twitter in Chief claimed that the call to Taiwan months in advance. If he had done so, he would have known that the Chinese government could call in our debt, and if we did not comply, the US Dollar would become little more than the paper it's printed on. With the falling prices of crude oil, the Russian government, already facing serious economic problems, high unemployment, and perhaps if it gets worse, domestic descent. Putin isn't afraid to use force, he's done so in the past. But if the big money people who have supported him, may start to distance themselves from him. So the Putin/ Trump love affair might just move towards separation or divorce.
It's well known that my biggest problem with Trump is his willingness to lie and is able to get away with it. And that from reports inside the board room, the people there, speaking anonymously to reporters like Chuck Todd. He is perhaps the most respected journalist in the political field today, so his reports, that I posted yesterday were disturbing. He tends to go with his last impulse, that is not necessarily based on factual analysis, but his gut feelings.
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The liberal left medis are doing backflips trying to portray Trump's wins with Ford and Carrier as something bad for the economy. Bloomberg's idiot editorial page is even arguing that Trump saving those jobs is the exact wrong approach while the TPP is the right one.
Trump is doing what Obama should have done in his first year.......focus on jobs.
well, chuck schumer's administrative assistant, kirsten gillibrand, seems to be throwing her hat in the presidential ring for 2020.
Right now the Liberal leader is Pelosi, who by the way surpasses Clinton as the most powerful female politician in the US. At least with respect to a legitimate position.
I never really forgave Pelosi for her behavior in her trips to Iran and Syria, and she has been ineffective in shaping policy so it comes as a disappointment that she has retained her leadership position.
so it comes as a disappointment that she has retained her leadership position.
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disappointment???
i'm ecstatic.
and it certainly lays waste to roger's myth that liberals are smarter than conservatives.
intelligent people learn from their mistakes.
imbeciles repeat them.
“At the present time, I’ve got to say, we have no strategy and we have no plan,”
http://freebeacon.com/politics/rep-cleaver-democrats-have-no-strategy-no-plan/
excellent.
Don't break out the bubbly yet, rrb, because it's dead certain that they'll have a strategy when they realize that drifting rudderless isn't working. Perhaps they still believe that Trump can't possibly get his way after assuming office, so they don't really need one. It should take maybe a week for reality to intrude - watch for some frantic scrambling come January.
First Day Of Wisconsin Recount Nets Hillary One Vote
Anonymous wphamilton said...
Don't break out the bubbly yet, rrb, because it's dead certain that they'll have a strategy when they realize that drifting rudderless isn't working. Perhaps they still believe that Trump can't possibly get his way after assuming office, so they don't really need one. It should take maybe a week for reality to intrude - watch for some frantic scrambling come January.
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well wp, it appears that democrat options and paths to even a little bit of power are extremely limited.
allahpundit sums it up nicely:
"Just for fun, let me play devil’s advocate. Do House Democrats need a strategy? They’re the least powerful faction in the federal government. Chuck Schumer and his Senate Democrats at least have the filibuster (for now) to block Supreme Court appointments and bills they don’t like. Pelosi has nothing. She can’t set the House agenda, she can’t stop Paul Ryan and the GOP from passing whatever they like, and she doesn’t have enough seats to make Ryan particularly nervous about losing some Republican votes on any given proposal. She can’t even point to 2018 as a prime opportunity to take back the House. Democrats will probably pick up seats given that it’s a midterm election with someone from the other party in the White House, but Democrats were also probably going to take back the Senate this fall. Even if Team Blue does gain seats in the next Congress, they’d need to flip 25 or so to regain a majority, which is a tall order. They’re likely to be in the minority for Trump’s entire term as president. What “strategy” can anyone muster in that predicament?
One possibility, I guess, would be for Pelosi to huddle with Schumer, who has the only real Democratic leverage over policy right now, and come up with compromise proposals on policy matters where Ryan and McConnell are unlikely to be able to hold their caucuses together. If they can be proactive in promising the GOP some Democratic votes if they move a bit towards the center, it might make Republicans — Trump, especially — more inclined to buck the party line and make a deal."
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/01/dem-congressman-on-house-democrats-strategy-um-we-have-no-strategy-and-no-plan/
rrb must have hacked into your blog.
That is his style.
Are We Going To See This For Four Years?
The President Elect today, went to IndIana and took credit for keeping 1,000 jobs at the Carrier Mechanical HVAC factory. The truth is that he had no influence in this decision by Carrier. The state of Indiana gave the company a $700,000,000 tax break. But as usual, his speech, the first public appearance since November 8, was another campaign speech.
He didn't mention the tax breaks, or that another Carrier plant is closing, and the 700 jobs are going to, yes folks, Mexico. This speech was filled with the usual deceptive story telling.
Then, they flew on the Trump airliner, to Cincinnati Ohio. It was supposed to be a thank the Ohio, Presidential speech. But if you watch the speech on the YouTube video, you will see the usual "Lock her up" and build the wall.
If this is what we are looking at in the next four years, we will look like we lost our collective minds.
The state of Indiana gave the company a $700,000,000 tax break.
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you might want to check your math there, drama queen.
Carrier Will Receive $7 Million in Tax Breaks to Keep Jobs in Indiana
http://www.wsj.com/articles/indiana-gives-7-million-in-tax-breaks-to-keep-carrier-jobs-1480608461
If this is what we are looking at in the next four years, we will look like we lost our collective minds.
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HA!
you already have lost yours.
I'm fine. One extra zero made no difference.
You never had a mind from the second of your fertilization.
One extra zero made no difference.
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ok flash, how do you get from $7 MILL to $700 MILL with ONE extra zero???
2 extra 0's 'genius'
I know, I caught it
Are We Going To See This For Four Years?
The President Elect today, went to IndIana and took credit for keeping 1,000 jobs at the Carrier Mechanical HVAC factory. The truth is that he had no influence in this decision by Carrier. The state of Indiana gave the company a $7,000,000 tax break. But as usual, his speech, the first public appearance since November 8, was another campaign speech.
He didn't mention the tax breaks, or that another Carrier plant is closing, and the 700 jobs are going to, yes folks, Mexico. This speech was filled with the usual deceptive story telling.
Then, they flew on the Trump airliner, to Cincinnati Ohio. It was supposed to be a thank the Ohio, Presidential speech. But if you watch the speech on the YouTube video, you will see the usual "Lock her up" and build the wall.
If this is what we are looking at in the next four years, we will look like we lost our collective minds.
And you hated saving General Motors, that saved hundreds of thousand jobs. Compared to Carrier's break. It's cheap.
AMP - 9 hours ago - The deal means Carrier will still send an estimated 1,300 jobs to Mexico. Indiana state officials have agreed to give United Technologies Corp $7 million worth of tax breaks to encourage the company to keep at least 1,069 jobs at its Carrier unit in Indianapolis, Carrier and the state said on Thursday.
Don't forget to change the 99% lie on the legacy blog
lol
What are they afraid of?
LANSING, Mich. — Supporters of President-elect Donald J. Trump have filed legal challenges in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan in a suddenly robust effort to stop the presidential election recount efforts there.
Plagiarized spam
Plagiarized spam
Who says they're afraid of anything.
These farcical recounts show illegal collusion between the Clinton and Stein campaigns. Hillary will no longer be above the law.
Trump didn’t stand up to Carrier,he offered it a bribe. But a thousand jobs in a huge economy; at the rate of one Carrier deal a week, it would take The President Elect to take 30 years to save as many jobs as President Obama did with the auto bailout that Trump hated. It would take him a 100 years to make up for the overall loss of manufacturing jobs just since 2000.
Yes the rest of the world is just amazed at how stupid we are.
No twit, I wrote it myself. You can't write as well as I do.
That would be the auto bailout then President George Bush started in 2008.
Just like tbe way Obama tried to take credit for the victin iraq. You are so gullible.
Myballs said...
That would be the auto bailout then President George Bush started in 2008.
And you and your kind did nothing but complain about when obama took over. LOL
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
First Day Of Wisconsin Recount Nets Hillary One Vote
The longest journey starts with the first step. And please note, they did not find ANY illegal votes like the donnie said. LOL
So I see the blog Mutt has a new chew toy, Saved JOBS.
I think the thing that is upsetting to the Mutt is Obama wrote the jobs off and Trump put those union jobs back on the books.
200,000 people in November gave up looking for employment,,, that dropped the Labor Participation Rate dropped to a Historic Low.
So much work to be done to undo the Damage of the Little one that did nothing for the middle income earners or the poor in the USA.
Hillary internal polling showed that she is unlikable and most Dems see her as a "male"... lol, that has got to hurt. So reported Martha Raddick.
CNN Joking about Trump Plane crashing, darn now that is funny right?
The left is a group of the most intolerable Mutts.
We have a far better economic policies for the middle-class than the Republicans." The Mutt
Well, Mutt we asked you to give us that plan , like Hillary, you could not give us that plan, and that is why in part she lost.
So dopie acknowledges that the auto bailout wasn't obama.
Hb's head explodes
The November jobs report looked pretty good on the surface except for one number that popped off the page: 95 million.
That's the number of Americans now counted as not in the labor force, a historic high that has confounded economists and policymakers. The total — 95.06 million to be more exact — has been rising consistently but surged by a gaudy 446,000 last month."
Yep, that is some kind of Legacy, Taking the labor Participation rate to a new historic Low.
" SNAP recipients totaled 33.5 million in 2009, the year the recession ended. In 2016, the number is at 45.3 million. The government shelled out $74 billion in benefits last year, about double the level of 2008."
Historic High people are having to stand in line for their next meal and every meal of the day.
Myballs said...
So dopie acknowledges that the auto bailout wasn't obama.
Unlike you, I acknowledge facts. I don't seem to recall that I said it was Obama's baby. Why is it important to you that the fact is a fact???? Seems to me that you ignored the that you and others complained about Government Motors when obama finished the bailout. LOL. Try a little honesty instead of blaming me for accepting a fact. LOL.
4.6% unemployment rate. The standard that trump will now be measured.
Bush started the automobile bailout. But once Obama was President, the Republican party, that was never going to let him get credit for it. So they tried to block it. Remember ballsess, it was named Government Motors. And you whined incessantly about the bond holders got screwed.
Don't mess with a guy who has an almost photographic memory.
LOL, omg, not that has to be said just to attempt to be funny.
IF not, omg you are one Delusional Mutt.
Mutt, do I really need to point out your error in math again when it comes to the TRUMP WIN on the Carrier Deal?
Renewable energy projects cost US taxpayers $26 billion for only 2,300 permanent jobs, which is $11.5 million per job
California
Clinton 8,581,312
Trump 4,393,409
the diff= 4,187,903
The CA Mutt that posts here, told us that she won the election by 2.5 million vote (keep counting), yet, she won CA by 4 million votes.
The unemployment rate in November fell to a nine year low, of 4.6%, just before the Bush Depression.
If McCain had that number, you would have put him next to Saint Ronald of the Reagan on Mount Rushmore, South Dakota.
Trump may have ulterior motives for his jaw-dropping call to Taiwan Friday, considering his company is looking to build luxury hotels and resorts on the rogue Chinese providence, Shanghaiist reports.
Trump shocked political observers Friday, initiating the first US-Taiwanese presidential contact in over three decades. The move risked a major dispute with China, which considers Taiwan to be one of its providences. In 1979, the U.S. adopted a One China position, freezing diplomatic relations with Taiwan.
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Despite the historically frosty relations between the United States and Taiwan, Trump picked up the phone to peak with Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen, incensing Beijing according to geopolitical experts.
As it turns out, the head-scratching move by Trump may not be so surprising afterall. The Gothamist LLC publication Shanghaiist—which covers news and events in China—Trump is eyeing Taiwan as his next location for a series of luxury hotels and resorts.
In November, the mayor of Taoyuan, Taiwan confirmed to China Times that a representative from the Trump Organization visited the municipality in September. Reports indicate Trump’s son Eric Trump will visit Taiwan later this year to discuss “a large-scale urban development project aimed at capitalizing on Taoyuan’s status as a transport hub for East Asia.”
Questions about potential conflicts-of-interest have plagued Trump since the beginning of his transition in November. After an onslaught of criticism, the president-elect vowed to leave his “great business in order to fully focus on running the country.”
During his call with Ing-wen, Trump congratulated her on her recent election and “noted the close economic, political, and security ties” that exist between Taiwan and the United States.
[h/t @JuddLegum]
Four years the Trump conspiracy theories from Roger.
California
Clinton 8,581,312
Trump 4,393,409
the diff= 4,187,903
The Mutt tells us that she is winning by 2.5 plus million votes, what exactly is she winning, and if she wins what does she get for it?
Why is she only leading (whatever) by only a 2.5 spread, losing the votes outside of CA.
So in the opinion of the Mutt, She should be the next President because CA says so, lol, right.
The unemployment rate in November fell to a nine year low, of 4.6%"
ok, so what?
Trump tweeted later: "The President of Taiwan CALLED ME today to wish me congratulations on winning the Presidency. Thank you!"
Darn Mutt, never gets anything right.
Keep Clinton Counting, that is the way to go forward.
The Mutt,,, believes like this horses ass:
"Friday on ABC’s “The View,” while discussing a Harvard University forum Thursday where top members of both the Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton presidential campaigns got into heated exchanges, co-host Joy Behar explained that Clinton supporters are being sore losers, saying, “We’re sore losers because it wasn’t won legitimately, as far as I’m concerned.”
Behar said, “Yes, we’re sore losers, because a lot of the reason he won is based on the racism, the Russian hacking, lies, continuous lying that went on, and the intrusion of the FBI at the last minute there. All of that seems to have basically distorted the whole election. So, yeah, we’re sore losers because it wasn’t won legitimately, as far as I’m concerned.”"
This might be worse on this Blogs Mutt then the Kerry in a landslide loss and the GORE WON combined with President Trump Saving 40,000 plus jobs already.
Regarding the Carrier deal.
Crony Capitalism
We don’t yet know terms of the public/private deal that was cut to make the company stay, but let’s hope every business is equally incentivized to keep Americans working in America.
Foundational to our exceptional nation’s sacred private property rights, a business must have freedom to locate where it wishes. In a free market, if a business makes a mistake (including a marketing mistake that perhaps Carrier executives made), threatening to move elsewhere claiming efficiency’s sake, then the market’s invisible hand punishes. Thankfully, that same hand rewards, based on good business decisions.
But this time-tested truth assumes we’re operating on a level playing field.
When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent. Meanwhile, the invisible hand that best orchestrates a free people’s free enterprise system gets amputated. Then, special interests creep in and manipulate markets. Republicans oppose this, remember? Instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? Because we know special interest crony capitalism is one big fail.
Politicians picking and choosing recipients of corporate welfare is railed against by fiscal conservatives, for it’s a hallmark of corruption. And socialism. The Obama Administration dealt in it in spades. Recall Solyndra, Stimulus boondoggles, and all their other taxpayer-subsidized anchors on our economy. A $20 trillion debt-ridden country can’t afford this sinfully stupid practice, so vigilantly guard against its continuance, or we’re doomed.
Reaganites learned it is POLICY change that changes economic trajectory. Reagan’s successes were built on establishing a fiscal framework that invigorated our entire economy, revitalized growth and investment while decreasing spending, tax rates, over-reaching regulations, unemployment, and favoritism via individual subsidies. We need Reaganites in the new Administration.
However well meaning, burdensome federal government imposition is never the solution. Never. Not in our homes, not in our schools, not in churches, not in businesses.
Gotta’ have faith the Trump team knows all this. And I’ll be the first to acknowledge concerns over a deal cut by leveraging taxpayer interests to make a manufacturer stay put are unfounded – once terms are made public.
But know that fundamentally, political intrusion using a stick or carrot to bribe or force one individual business to do what politicians insist, versus establishing policy incentivizing our ENTIRE ethical economic engine to roar back to life, isn’t the answer. Cajole only chosen ones on Main St or Wall St and watch lines stretch from Washington to Alaska full of businesses threatening to bail unless taxpayers pony up. The lines strangle competition and really, really, dispiritingly screw with workers’ lives. It’s beyond unacceptable, so let’s anticipate equal incentivizes and positive reform all across the field – to make the economy great again.
Guess who?
-Sarah Palin
No one cares but you Mutt.
Rent Free living in your head.
What makes the Majority Party so Strong, those within the party can voice differing views and be heard.
The Mutt is a lockstep one thought Liberal.
Tax incentives are traditional ways to attract and retain businesses in a state or city. It's reaching to call that crony capitalism.
We have bigger things to worry about. Whatever Trump did for Carrier, he might decide that it worked so well that he'll extend something similar to every large business in America.
Whatever Trump did for Carrier, he might decide that it worked so well that he'll extend something similar to every large business in America.
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indeed.
and we will refer to it as a reduction in the corporate tax rate.
currently at 35%, i'd like to see it get down to 15%.
money flows to where it is treated the best. if liberals could ever wrap their heads around that fundamental principle, we might be able to make some actual 'progress' around here.
If McCain had that number, you would have put him next to Saint Ronald of the Reagan on Mount Rushmore, South Dakota.
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not if he had to drive 90+ MILLION people out of the workforce to get there.
you see rog, this topic, like all others that would address your dear leader's legacy, is built on a mount everest of lies.
as i am usually wont to do, i take 0linsky's bullshit unemployment number of 4.6% and i double it. what i get is usually very close to the actual unemployment number - the
U-6, which is standing at an embarrassingly high 9.3% for november.
AREN'T YOU PROUD OF YOUR PRESIDENT ELECT?
DON'T YOU WISH EVERYBODY WAS?
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Ambassador Trump Steps in It Again
Donald Trump ruffled feathers earlier this week when he chatted with the president of Pakistan and pledged to, "play any role you want me to play to address and find solutions to the country's problems." He was at it again on Friday, when he placed a friendly phone call to President Tsai Ing-wen of Taiwan.
The problem here is that when the President of the United States calls Tsai Ing-wen, he is acknowledging that she exists. And if she exists, then the government of Taiwan exists, which is a view that the Chinese government most certainly does not share.
Well aware of this protocol, President Obama has never called Tsai, just as a string of presidents never got Yasser Arafat on the phone, or Abraham Lincoln never sent a telegram to Jefferson Davis.
In the span of a few days, then, Trump has stirred the pot for two of the world's biggest hotspots. Perhaps next he can challenge Kim Jong-un to a hand size contest, or can advise the Irish that England is really a "terrific" country to take orders from.
Kellyanne Conway was on Anderson Cooper's show, and insisted that Trump knows what he is doing. However, she could not explain what that might be, nor could she grasp the difference between, say, President-elect Obama placing a call to the leader of Argentina in 2008 and Trump calling Tsai.
In the absence of an explanation, then let's step in and fill the gap with a few theories:
Theory 1: He's an id-driven ignoramus: This is the theory that many Democrats likely ascribe to, and there may be some truth to it, inasmuch as Trump is clearly guided by gut instinct more than anything else. However, he has shown us time and again that there is some method to the madness, so it's probably time to stop underestimating him.
Theory 2: He thinks diplomacy is the same as business: Trump's approach to foreign affairs has been classic Dale Carnegie-style networking. You call people, flatter them a bit, ask how you can help them, and promise you'll talk again later. Once that seed has had a chance to grow into a tree, you hit them again with your sales pitch. The Donald is not entirely wrong about this, if this is indeed his thinking, but he's also not entirely right. China vs. Taiwan or India vs. Pakistan are not the same as McDonald's vs. Burger King or Pepsi vs. Coke.
Theory 3: He's running foreign affairs like he ran his campaign: Over and over during the campaign season, the pros told Trump he was doing it wrong. He ignored them, and was proven right. Now, it sure looks like he is at it again. And while it's true that the experts are wrong sometimes (see every pollster in the world, 2012-2016), he might do well to recall that they are not always wrong.
Theory 4: It's a conspiracy: Now, let's engage in some 9/11-truther level craziness. It's still believable that Trump never really wanted this job, and that he did everything to torpedo himself, and that he was a success nonetheless. Sort of a political version of the musical "The Producers" (where the main characters try to produce a guaranteed flop, staging a Nazi-themed musical, only to have it become a smashing success). Anyhow, maybe Trump is desperately trying to give the electors cause to vote against him, sparing him the presidency while still saving face, and allowing him to spend the rest of his life complaining, which he loves to do.
It may be that all four of these is right, or that none of them are. We may know more when (and if) Trump sees fit to share his vision, but we probably won't really know until a few years have passed. Here's hoping we learn without World War III getting underway. (Bates)
THEORY 5: HE REALLY IS AN IGNORAMUS.
Other Indiana Companies Are Also Planning to Ship Jobs to Mexico
Using state tax incentives, Donald Trump managed to convince Carrier to save about 1,000 factory jobs in Indiana. It will be interesting to see how he goes about saving the jobs of other Indiana factory workers that are about to be shipped to Mexico or out of state. CNN has compiled a list of them:
United Technologies electronic controls plant in Huntington, IN (700 jobs)
Rexnord's bearing plant in Indianapolis (350 jobs)
Manitowoc Foodservice's plant in Sellersburg, IN that makes food and beverage equipment (84 jobs)
GE's appliance plant in Bloomington, IN (329 jobs)
Stanrail's plant making car parts in Gary, IN (100 jobs)
Paoli furniture factory in Orleans, IN (367 jobs)
Kellogg's plant in Seelyville, IN, which makes Cheez-It and Keebler snacks (150 jobs)
As every economist in the country who has weighed in on the Carrier deal has said, the president cannot intervene every time a company threatens to close a plant and build a new one in Mexico. He has to attack job loss at the macroeconomic level. That is Trump's challenge. If he fails, jobs will just continue moving south. (Tannenbaum)
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Why no. Messiah Trump will save the day, every single time.
Kerry: People can't tell 'what's real and what isn't'
So says the jackass that thinks he spent Christmas in Cambodia.
Seared into his memory
lol
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND
Today in Schadenfreude: Russian Central Bank Hacked
After months (and years) of mucking around in the affairs of other nations, the Russians got a taste of their own medicine this week, when hackers attacked the Russian Central Bank and absconded with 2 billion rubles (about $31 million).
In addition, to add insult to injury, they spread false news stories on Twitter and on social media on the subject of how weak the Russian financial system is, and how it is likely to completely collapse.
Russian authorities say they shut down the hacking and the fake news before any serious damage could be done. Given that the rubles are long gone and the story has made the news across the world, we'd say that they are in error. (Bates)
Well aware of this protocol, President Obama has never called Tsai
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true.
instead he chose to fellate the castro brothers and the iranian mullahs.
a quick chat with the president of taiwan looks mild and sane by comparison.
i'll give you assholes credit for one thing - when you embrace hypocrisy you go big.
Audacity
Out next month:
Audacity: How Barack Obama Defied His Critics and Created a Legacy That Will Prevail by Jonathan Chait.
“An unassailable case that, in the eyes of history, Barack Obama will be viewed as one of America’s best and most accomplished presidents.”
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Kerry: People can't tell 'what's real and what isn't'
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kinda like 0linsky whining about fake news to the purveyor of a fake news rape story at the university of virginia.
"This is one of our chief challenges today, is to manage information and to do it in a way that average folks at home can know what's real and what isn't, what's true, what's false, and try to build consensus around a common set of understandings," Kerry said during the Mediterranean Dialogues Conference in Rome.
well lurch, perhaps you could have james taylor write you a song about say, our U-6 unemployment number. or the actual terms of the iran nuke deal. or the groober-ized ACA. or the GM bailout and how the bondholders got fucked. or the smidgens of corruption at the IRS. or the root cause of the benghazi terror attack.
just to name a few things that are quite 'real.' at least to those who've been fucked by them.
Unassailable. A strong word.
Sometimes Stuff Just Happens
Jonathan Chait: “Consider how the world looked eight years ago.
The Republicans lost power amid having let Osama bin Laden and his followers escape in Afghanistan,
launched a failed war on the basis of misleading intelligence,
managed a scandal-ridden administration stuffed with hacks,
handed off an economy plunging into the worst crisis since the Great Depression,
and had its outgoing president’s approval ratings bottoming out in the 20s.
Barack Obama leaves office
with a growing economy throwing off wage gains up and down the income ladder,
and with a president whose approval rating has risen into the upper 50s.
Some conservative intellectuals tried to grapple with their party’s governing failure in the Bush years, but their mental exertions wound up having no bearing at all on the circumstances that brought their party back to power. Sometimes there is no moral, just a bunch of stuff that happens.”
“The party that needs to search its soul about whether it has the capacity to govern competently is not the one out of power. And what should concern Democrats is not whether they’ll get back in power BUT WHAT WILL BE LEFT OF THE COUNTRY WHEN THEY DO.”
The 57th State ℅EF™ @EF517_V2 20h20 hours ago
"Audacity: How Barack Obama Defied His Critics and Destroyed the Democrats." Out in January. Pre-order:
@jonathanchait
LOL.
when it comes to the epic devastation of the democrat party, here's hoping that 0linsky's legacy remains for a very, very long time.
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OH NO! SAY IT AIN'T SO!
Many Trump Voters Will Soon Feel Betrayed
Paul Krugman: “Donald Trump won the Electoral College (though not the popular vote) on the strength of overwhelming support from working-class whites, who feel left behind by a changing economy and society. And they’re about to get their reward — the same reward that, throughout Mr. Trump’s career, has come to everyone who trusted his good intentions. Think Trump University.”
“Yes, the white working class is about to be betrayed.”
“The evidence of that coming betrayal is obvious in the choice of an array of pro-corporate, anti-labor figures for key positions. In particular, the most important story of the week — seriously, people, stop focusing on Trump Twitter — was the selection of Tom Price, an ardent opponent of Obamacare and advocate of Medicare privatization, as secretary of health and human services. This choice probably means that the Affordable Care Act is doomed — and Mr. Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters will be among the biggest losers.”
Get lost pedo.
Plagiarized spam by the pedo.
Plagiarized spam by the pedo
"when it comes to the epic devastation of the democrat party, here's hoping that 0linsky's legacy remains for a very, very long time."
Considering the number of losses they've had...
...his legacy will be bathrooms.
MY BIGGEST LEGACY:
THE ELECTION OF DONALD TRUMP
A Republican Senate
A Republican House
A future right turn on the Supreme Court
As I predicted 8 years ago
That will really make America great again
Thanks minions, keep up the hard work
ROFLMAO !!!
Paul Krugman:
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is this the same paul krugman who told us the day after election day that the stock market would collapse and never recover?
and i quote: "If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never."
So we are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight. I suppose we could get lucky somehow. But on economics, as on everything else, a terrible thing has just happened.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout
hmmm...
my portfolio is up. terrible thing.
1000 carrier employees still have jobs. terrible thing.
"Thanks minions, keep up the hard work"
Lmao.
A lot of bitter, broken and DEVASTATED liberals on the blog today.
And yes, we will be treated to their infantile whining and other entertainment for the next four years.
LMAO
Carlos Danger too broke for sex rehab
Anonymous caliphate4vr said... LMAO
"he’s been hit with $65,000 in fines for improper use of campaign funds — money it sounds like he doesn’t have."
Wonder if he's thought of auctioning off his laptop with Huma's copy of the Clinton emails. Think of the bidding war between the Clinton Foundation, foreign governments, alt-right groups ...
Now that I think about it, imagine having that laptop for years, all this going on, and never thinking of cashing in. Or turning it over to the FBI for that matter. Imagine Huma, Clinton's trusted aid, knowing about it and never taking care of it. There must be drugs involved.
It's such bizarre behavior, I think drugs as well. Sexting while laying on a bed beside your child.
Unbelievable
One last point: if I were you, Daesh, I’d just lay down my arms right now, and slither off into the blowing sands. Cuz Mad Dog Mattis is coming after you, and he’ll be bringing Hell with him.
President Obama’s seven year quest to salvage the U.S. economy from the damage done to it by his predecessor George W. Bush has been an overwhelming success, according to the United States Treasury Department. Obama took over as President at a time when the economy, stock market and banking system had collapsed and were on the verge of throwing the nation into a depression due to Bush’s failed policies. But Obama’s initiatives prevented that from happening, and now the Treasury says he’s fully turned the economy around.
Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has confirmed what economists and those familiar with economic policy have already known: the U.S. economy has been growing at a steady rate for several quarters, private sector job growth is consistently high, the unemployment rate has been reduced all the way down to the five percent level which economists view as ideal, and the stock market has grown tremendously. This all occurred even as President Obama reduced the annual federal deficit by seventy-two percent. But the Secretary says there are still challenges ahead.
Lew points to the inequality between the wealthy and the working class, and business tax loopholes, as areas of concern; Obama has tried to tackle both but has faced republican opposition. But he says Social Security is in far better shape than most Americans believe. The Hill has more from the Treasury Secretary.
Political.com
Delusional. Most Americans know better.
That's why there will be a president Trump come January 20th.
"has been an overwhelming succes"
LOL
imagine that. jack lew says 0linsky's economy has been a overwhelming success.
LOL.
yet the 0linsky administration has come out against "fake news."
well make up your mind skeets.
Considering the number of losses they've had...
...his legacy will be bathrooms.
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no shit.
once trump finishes running 0linsky's legacy through a shredder, all skeets will be left with will be his final frontier of rest rooms for sexual predators and the chronically confused.
jimmy carter has got to be ecstatic that he lived to see this. he can go to his grave confident in the knowledge that he was not the biggest failure to ever occupy the oval office.
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“What we’ve learned in 2016 is that the left loves poor people when they’re huddled in food banks, hungry, exhausted, desperately looking for dinner, but hates them when they cockily walk into polling stations and say ‘Fuck your status quo.'”
h/t - glenn reynolds
we will refer to it as a reduction in the corporate tax rate.
currently at 35%, i'd like to see it get down to 15%.
money flows to where it is treated the best. if liberals could ever wrap their heads around that fundamental principle, we might be able to make some actual 'progress' around here."
And drop the Obama punitive tax on money made by US Companies abroad and comes back to the USA< oh wait, 2.6 Trillion is sitting off shore because the earners of that cash do not want to simply hand a lot of it over. Enter President Elect Trump, a much lower rate on REPATRIOTED money and into banks, businesses and loans her at home, building the US Economy back from the burning train wreck that is Obamanomics will take two Terms.
California
Clinton 8,581,312
Trump 4,393,409
the diff= 4,187,903
Yet, when all 56 other states are counted her lead drops, how can that be, the other 56 states should add to that count.
CA Mutt (aka HB) really thinks she won. Amazing a special kind of stupid is that Mutt.
Use this link to see what your State Does to keep or attract Businesses
CA Mutt (aka HB) really thinks she won. Amazing a special kind of stupid is that Mutt.
Whom had the most votes for the entire country, dirt farmer??????? I guess that means trump won in a landslide. LOLOLOL
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Seen in allahpundit.....just as credible. LOL. Why don't you compose something just as profound as that instead of just posting others thoughts as your own. dayum, no wonder why you never finished ag school, too hard!!!
Yet, when all 56 other states are counted her lead drops
Wrong idiot dirt farmer. Maybe you should visit the actual result instead of making crap up like the rest of the uneducated righties.
RRB Thanks, The Melt Down Of Krugman is worth the time to read
Opium when the Mutt farts you need a breath mint.
How won, I got this.
Trump 306
Hillary 232
In the run up to the election, I don't recall the Mutt or YOU talking about the race would be declared by following the ROAD TO MOST VOTES, in the Real world it is the Race to 270, your gal failed.
California
Clinton 8,581,312
Trump 4,393,409
the diff= 4,187,903
Opuim like all special kind of stupid liberal sissy's you too are losey at math,,, She won CA by 4,187,903. The Mutts nipping has been to whimper "Hillary won by 2.2 million votes.
So IF she won, by only 2.2 million votes, yet she left CA with a lead of over 4 million, she lost the other 56 states by a lot.
IF you can't get the point now, then you are too dumb for words, other then call you part of the Mutt's litter of special stupid pups.
Paul the special kind of stupid puppy:
"It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?" Morning of Mourning
November 9th , the very morning I moved 60 K into the market at the open investing in Trump's America and the SP 500 Vanguard fund.
Trump won with 57 % of the Electorial Votes,,, is that a landslide, I don't know and I don't care, the VICTORY is sweet because he Beat Hillary Obama Biden Polosie and others on the left.
The list was provided by hb the Mutt.
The Mutt (aka HB) never learns, not in 12 years of attempting to educate him he is still a financial failure, he can't learn he is the poster boy of the special kind of stupid , she never looks past the headlines of economic news.
The Mutt ran in breathless to report that unemployment is reportedly at 4.6 , never mind that "some people gave up looking for work — about 226,000 left the labor force, and the participation rate declined to 62.7 "
95 million people of working age are unemployed. That is the worklessness of the state of Obama.
What happened to the middle income and low income earner, well , to find the facts of the report you have to read past the headlines and one finds this "Average hourly earnings declined by 3 cents ".
Yep, that is a decline.
over 4 million, she lost the other 56 states by a lot.
A lot??? Brilliant commentary dirt farmer. BTW, obama had 332 electoral votes and no one claimed it as a landslide, especially mitch mcdonnell. lol go plant a potato.
56 states?
It is true however, if you don't count California, Trump won the popular vote in the rest of the country. By a LOT. Clinton won California.
If the margin in CA actually meant anything, we'd just skip the election and award the Presidency to whatever Democrat was running. CA has a lot of influence, but the rest of the country chose Trump.
The Democrats need to accept that fact, and then they need to honestly determine "why" they failed in the Nation beyond California, and finally they need to change those things which led to Clinton's failure. Obsessing on the mythical "popular vote" leads only to more failures.
wp, I heard something today, that made a lot of sense.
Both parties suck.
The Democrats are too elitist and did not understand that how the rust belt voters are struggling, and Clinton didn't recognize the problem. Thousands who voted for Obama twice, voted for Trump because they believed that he cares for them. Clinton didn't address that.
The majority of Republicans are no racist. But the Republicans have attractive the bigot and racists. They need to separate themselves from them. Trump exploited them. They need to repudiate them.
The diffrence being is the Racist and Bigots are confined to lunatic fringe of the Republican party.
While racist and bigots are elected chairmen of the Democrat National Committee.
Facts escape you.
wp, I heard something today, that made a lot of sense.
Both parties suck.
The Democrats are too elitist and did not understand that how the rust belt voters are struggling, and Clinton didn't recognize the problem. Thousands who voted for Obama twice, voted for Trump because they believed that he cares for them. Clinton didn't address that.
The majority of Republicans are no racist. But the Republicans have attractive the bigot and racists. They need to separate themselves from them. Trump exploited them. They need to repudiate them.
A phone call between Donald Trump and Taiwan's leader that risks damaging relations between the U.S. and China was pre-arranged, a top Taiwanese official told NBC News on Saturday...."Maintaining good relations with the United States is as important as maintaining good relations across the Taiwan Strait," Taiwanese presidential spokesman Alex Huang told NBC News. "Both are in line with Taiwan's national interest."
And this:
The call was planned in advance with knowledge of Trump’s transition team and was the right thing to do, said Stephen Yates, a former U.S. national security official who served under President George W. Bush. Yates denied multiple media reports that he arranged the call, while adding that it doesn’t make sense for the U.S. to be “stuck” in a pattern of acquiescing to China over Taiwan.
A phone call between Donald Trump and Taiwan's leader that risks damaging relations between the U.S. and China was pre-arranged, a top Taiwanese official told NBC News on Saturday...."Maintaining good relations with the United States is as important as maintaining good relations across the Taiwan Strait," Taiwanese presidential spokesman Alex Huang told NBC News. "Both are in line with Taiwan's national interest."
And this:
The call was planned in advance with knowledge of Trump’s transition team and was the right thing to do, said Stephen Yates, a former U.S. national security official who served under President George W. Bush. Yates denied multiple media reports that he arranged the call, while adding that it doesn’t make sense for the U.S. to be “stuck” in a pattern of acquiescing to China over Taiwan.
The real reason why Jennifer Palmieri was crying.
Hillary Clinton blew the most winnable election in modern American history. And it's her own fault.
I'm talking about this year's presidential race specifically — and even more specifically, about the Clinton campaign's responsibility for flubbing an election that it should have won in a landslide. I don't care if the "fundamentals" favored the GOP. Trump was a fundamentals-defying opponent who should have landed flat on his face regardless of the baseline assumptions. I don't care if Clinton racks up a nearly 3 million vote lead in the popular tally by grabbing up gobs of electorally superfluous ballots in California. She lost the election because she failed to win where she needed to win and where Democrats had a long record of winning — the upper Midwest — as well as where they win when they're doing their jobs well (Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina). That's a sign of a campaign screw-up of monumental proportions.
She may never work in politics again.
Almost a month after Hillary Clinton's loss to Donald Trump, recriminations are still flying among liberals and Democrats.
At least one prominent Clinton loyalist has turned his fire on Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), arguing that the left-winger's challenge wounded the former secretary of State ahead of her general election campaign."
How cute this writer believes their is a difference between Democrat and Liberal.
Hillary won CA and lost votes after that, to lower her net vote count, what difference that makes at this point.
It was good to see the Mutt, Jane and Opuim express the want for Trump to be a two term President, because to do other wise would expose their hypocrisy again on yet another topic.
They hope Trump Succeeds .
Anonymous wphamilton said...
56 states?"
i-i-it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we’ve traveled … uh to every corner of the United States. Uh, I’ve now been in fifty … ss-seven? states. I think one left to go." Obimbo
They need to repudiate them.
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look at ALL of the election results, rog. national, state, local.
the GOP cleaned up, and the only people we need to repudiate are liberals and democrats.
RRB, The Mutt is too stupid, he calls on us to repudiate, but, leave out that the KKK is of his party, Wallace and Bird.
The Mutt also fails to put down the rioters and thugs of BlackLiesMatter and of Hillary Rent a mob at Trump Rallies.
SO for The Mutt to ever attempt to preach to us is laughable, just like his personal finance.
Trump won on one simple topic, the number one topic no matter you are white, black or brown, no matter if your a liberal, Indy or Conservative. Trump won on JOBS.
Jobs you know the very thing that keeps 95 million people out of the workforce that has given us a historic low in labor participation. The same people that gave up HOPE under Obama and have found HOPE with TRUMP.
Opium, you said no one called Obama's 2012 win a landslide, you are as special as The Mutt in getting things wrong all of the time.
Election Results 2012: Obama wins in landslide"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/dc-election-results-2012-obama-wins-in-landslide-norton-easily-reelected-as-house-delegate/2012/11/07/c9b39dc8-239c-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html?utm_term=.e3fd80450996
Washington post said it was a landslide victory for Obimbo.
Next issue you want to be punched in the nutz over?
Election Results 2012: Obama wins in landslide"
LOL idiot......he won in a landslide in DC which is what the article was about.. You should actually read shit before looking dumber than you really are!!!! Keep posting, its sooooo much fun watch you being stupid. LOL Thanx for the laugh at your expense.
"Bush Depression" The Mutt
It is always a good laugh when the Mutt talks economics. He has no idea how much I wait for mistakes like the one above.
Blogger Roger Amick said... wp, I heard something today, that made a lot of sense. Both parties suck. The Democrats are too elitist
This much is true, and Clinton specifically pretty much set the standard for "elitist". I believe that her campaign failed Obama personally, and that a schism will develop between Clinton elitists and Obama progressives, and that she can no longer expect assistance, of any kind, from that quarter.
Trump is an anti-Party and there is still a lot of bad blood under the surface between he and the GOP elite. Our next President is a pig in a poke; we don't really know what he's up to. But I strongly suspect that he knew exactly what he was doing when taking that call from Taiwan, and in his conversation with Sharif from Pakistan for that matter. He is establishing a negotiating position with other Asian nations, and with India, respectively.
We have a far better economic policies for the middle-class than the Republicans" The Mutt
Posted 4 days ago, and still no answer.
Many of us asked the Mutt , exactly what where those "far better economic policies" of Hillary's?
And why did she not sell them to a point that she could WIN.
WP, for me I really don't see Trump as you do , much is in fact knowned about him.
For me it is policies on economics, policies on lower taxes and the US Supreme court.
KD most of what we know about Trump politically, prior to this election, is contradictory. His prior candidacies all had the flavor of publicity stunts as did even this one initially.
We know that Trump is the self-styled "King of Debt" but would he translate that to the nation's budget? Does his distaste for taxes on his businesses translate to lower taxes for all businesses, now that he represents the tax collector? Who knows.
Anonymous KD said...
"Bush Depression"
Finally a cogent post. LOL
Well, our loser friend Opium and HB told us that the National Debt does not matter, having taken it from 10 Trillion to 21 Trillion in just 8 years, IF Trump on average takes it up a Trillion a year over his two terms then he wins.
How will it translate, first off , he does not have to have a budget passed in his first term, just keeping with the Obama standard.
Then he needs to drop the rates on working people , ALL working people, Drop the rates on investing People and then drop the corporate rates and then lastly drop the punish current rates on earning over seas, get part of that 2.6 Trillion Dollars that is off shore back working at home, I think his rate for Re- Patriotion of that money.
The doubling of the individual Federal personal deduction is going to be Yuge.
now that he represents the tax collector?" Wp
What do you mean by that?
The IRS works for the President. Trump will need the revenue for his infrastructure projects and, I dunno, national resort hotels. So Trump now represents the tax collector.
national resort hotels " we already have those, their are many of them and they are really fantastic places.
Book today to stay in Federal Resorts
Yes they do, the IRS does in fact work for the US President. WP are you now concerned about spending and where the money is going to come from?
I mean really, after 8 years of full on printing and spending are we now to believe the Budget and National Debt now matters?
I mean really, after 8 years of full on printing and spending are we now to believe the Budget and National Debt now matters?
Indeed it does. You may recall what I wrote here soon after Obama's election. I opined that after eight years I might support the Republicans for executive office and Congress, to reapply fiscal discipline. (Or maybe you don't, given the evident memory lapses of another writer here).
While I didn't wind up supporting the Republican candidate, I see no reason to move from my reasoning.
WP, no need to move from you opinion, OK.
But, looks like a double standard in my opinion.
Your support of anyone but Trump , yet you want him to impose fiscal austerity , that of which never happened with Obama , would not happen with Hillary. Any other vote was a throw away in the trash vote.
I see Hillary is going to stand with Stien of a Federal Level Law Suit seeing those gal pals can win with the people, go to the Federal Courts and go Judge Shopping.
Trump "stole" the Idea from Hillary, Dems in us house and senate will vote for it in droves.
"His call for a repatriation holiday of 10 percent for the more than a trillion dollars in corporate cash parked overseas is among the ideas getting the most chatter on Wall Street right now. It's also possible Hillary Clinton would propose a similar policy, with some conditions, analysts said.
"Given the upcoming elections, there is newfound hope that the presidential candidates would be willing to push for a tax holiday so as to bring back the funds, encouraging its use for capital spending and job creation. Donald Trump already has advocated that idea," Citi Research's Tobias Levkovich wrote in a note to clients Friday.
Strategas Research sees several other positive ramifications of corporate cash repatriation.
"The most efficient way to do that is to impose a one-time tax on the existing foreign profits overseas which will free up the cash for companies to use for dividends, share repurchases, M&A, capital expenditures, and to pay down debt," Strategas' Daniel Clifton"
A Yuge Bi-partisan win.
I see it as having different priorities at different times, based on what I perceive to be the most pressing problems faced by the nation. We have a different economic environment now, with a number of consumer protections in place and other protections of our rights - which were pretty urgent at the time. National debt was an unfortunate byproduct, especially with the establish need to protect big business, big finance, or the wealthiest 1% depending on which side of the partisan divide. Now it may be possible to rein in the most wasteful or extravagant expenditures. So I don't see it as a double standard.
Regarding Stein filing in Federal court for the Pa recount: I haven't actually seen that filing in the news yet, but only Stein's claim that she's going to. I have only seen the vague "constitutional grounds" for the anticipated action. As we all know, that isn't enough. You need to base it on some right guaranteed by the Constitution (but not necessarily enumerated) such as "equal protection". Or else a ruling that the associated State Constitution has been abused, but Stein hasn't indicated that. I don't believe that it's been filed yet, and if it is eventually filed with such vague cause it will be universally seen as frivolous. All of this, plus the inevitable cost of a Federal lawsuit against the caliber of lawyers she will face makes me skeptical that it will happen.
Trump will need the revenue for his infrastructure projects
His plan is to have the companies who provide the infrastructure come up with their own financing and tax breaks. A true bait and switch with no commitment of funds from the trump admin.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelmoser/2016/11/27/how-to-fix-the-trump-infrastructure-plan/#4e16743d7f82
Anonymous KD, IRA out of My Health Care, best news of the Day said...
Well, our loser friend Opium and HB told us that the National Debt does not matter
LOL. Keep making stuff up, it makes you a non thinking republicon'......
Since the scheme relies on privatization for infrastructure projects that won't produce much revenue (as public infrastructure), it's pretty clear that the projects will ultimately be funded by tax revenue.
It's not as byzantine as it's made out though. Privatization with the concordant competition, along with tax breaks and incentives, are designed to make the work itself less expensive. The actual projects will be initiated and remain funded in the same way, at the same level of government, as they are now. Except costing less, leads to greater demand and there will be more projects.
In a way it's attractive, but begs two immediate questions. First, those tax breaks and incentives are debited somewhere, and fiscal discipline demands that some tax revenue offsets it. Second, there isn't any guarantee that it really will stimulate infrastructure building, because the contractor cost of doing business isn't necessarily the primary impediment. At best this can be one element of a broader plan.
I got sick and tired of the racist rodent posting at the top of the legacy blog, and all of them are nothing more than silly pictures. He's not capable of writing a coherent, grammatically correct, so we shall see how many hits the rrb legacy blog hits. It has 752 in the last week, the vast majority of them were on my posts, so want to bet he's going to get lucky to get 200 a week?
Good luck Jimmy Bigot Rodent.
wp: But I strongly suspect that he knew exactly what he was doing when taking that call from Taiwan, and in his conversation with Sharif from Pakistan for that matter. He is establishing a negotiating position with other Asian nations, and with India, respectively.
I don't think Trump is capable of thinking with that much depth. He went on Twitter last night at 2; 00 AM bitching about SNL making fun of him, again.
More likely, we are going to be subject to impulsive, shallow and angry leadership. God help this great nation.
You have a long history of misunderestimating.
This is exactly what I was afraid of. You will probably embrace it given your tendency towards dictatorships, like Trump.
CNN
Donald Trump has called for a shutdown of the Internet in certain areas to stop the spread of terror.
In a speech at the U.S.S. Yorktown in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Monday, Trump referenced the use by ISIS of social media as a recruitment tool. He recommended a discussion with Bill Gates to shut off parts of the Internet.
"We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."
Some totalitarian governments do it
The notion that the Internet could be shut off is not completely off base. North Korea does it. Some countries have been known to shut off Internet service to their citizens in times of crisis. Egypt restricted the Internet during the 2011 Arab Spring uprising.
Other countries block certain Internet services and sites. China is the most famous example, forbidding most social networking sites as well as websites that deal with subjects the government doesn't want its citizens to know about.
Most Western countries, including the United States, regulate the Internet very loosely. There are few restrictions about what American citizens can do and say on the Internet. Child pornography is one example of forbidden Internet activity in the United States -- Google is barred from linking to it, and websites cannot display images of it.
Do you really think FDR would ever allow Axis Anne or Tokyo Rose to broadcast on the NBC radio network?
This is war. The only reason to allow ISIS internet access is to gather intelligence on it.
Otherwise, shut them down.
Does your warped sense of free speech allows ISIS to spread their hate propaganda on the internet but prevent conservatives to speak on university campuses?
Hb, no one gives a shit what you think after all of your half assed predictions were once again so wrong.
Go back to your legacy page that no one reads anymore because of all of your spam threads.
He's just mad because everyone is suggesting that his staff set up parental controls on his internet connection.
Mr President,
I have been a proud support of you, since I saw your first speech at the Democratic national convention.
I am respectfully requesting that you take action on the Stranding Rock civil rights movement. I think that this will be seen as one of your many successful actions as our President. The Native Americans deserve to keep their sacred land.
Sincerely,
Roger L. Amick
Sent a few couple hours ago. They just directed that they explore an alternate route!!!!
wp, that's about a year ago. But your right. If they take away his Twitter account, he will be pissed!
Castratedballs, the legacy is the rrb blog. Just watch the visitors go to 100 maybe less.
NYTimes: Alternate Route for Dakota Pipeline to Be Explored This is a victory for the Native Americans and the country at large!
He responded to my request?????😁😁😁😁😁😁
Some of us are old to enough remember how the Tea Party movement was disgusted by Obama saving the entire auto industry (1.5m jobs) in 2009 at a cost of $9bn. (Cost of Trump’s job savings: $7,000 per job. Cost of Obama’s job savings: $6,000 per job. That’s socialism for you.)😁😁😁😁😁😁
Comedian Stephen Colbert announced Thursday that he would fund every existing grant request South Carolina public school teachers have made on the education crowdfunding website DonorsChoose.org.
Colbert made the announcement on a live video feed Thursday at a surprise event at Alexander Elementary School in Greenville.
Colbert partnered with Share Fair Nation and ScanSource to fund nearly 1,000 projects for more than 800 teachers at over 375 schools, totaling $800,000.
There are certainly a lot of teachers in South Carolina celebrating this week. Thank you, Stephen Colbert! 😁😁😁😁😁😁
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/stephen-colbert-help-fund-800000-grants-south-carolina-teachers
May, 2015
Old news.
The only old news is you. LOL
Roger Amick said...
Some of us are old to enough remember how the Tea Party movement was disgusted by Obama saving the entire auto industry (1.5m jobs) in 2009 at a cost of $9bn. (Cost of Trump’s job savings: $7,000 per job. Cost of Obama’s job savings: $6,000 per job. That’s socialism for you.)
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LIE.
the bailout cost $79.7B.
0linsky only managed to LOSE about $9.3B.
yeah, that's socialism for you. fail miserably and lie about success.
They just directed that they explore an alternate route!!!!"
Do tell us HB, how many miles of this pipeline actually travels on Indian Owned Land?
GM still owes the US Tax Payers.
Toyota, FORD and Mazda and Nissian and others never took a dime of GOV'T money. The Mutt is attempting to make up his own facts and do a complete re-write of history.
What is next as Hillary continues to file lawsuits on the over with election, IF she keeps counting she can find many another vote for her, they have spent millions and found one for her.
The fact that Trump saved the very jobs at the very plant the effected the very people OBAMA said he was helpless to do anything about. And that these jobs are all union jobs is what has the liberals steamed. The Mutt's Math is off, it always is, $7,000 a year per job, ,nope, that is not the truth. But the truth never ever gets in the way.
The California congressman appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday and instead said the issue facing Democrats is simply a failure of communication.
DICKERSON: “The Democratic Party is in a moment of questioning about its identity. You were reelected to lead the Democrats in the House. What do you tell Democrats who want a new direction and then, go to you, what are you going to do differently?”
"Embrace that SUCK" Nancy Botox .
A Special kind of Stupid.
"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that despite Democrats losing the House, Senate, and almost two-thirds of state houses, the American people don't want a new direction.
The California congressman appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation" Sunday and instead said the issue facing Democrats is simply a failure of communication.
DICKERSON: “The Democratic Party is in a moment of questioning about its identity. You were reelected to lead the Democrats in the House. What do you tell Democrats who want a new direction and then, go to you, what are you going to do differently?”
PELOSI: “Well, I don’t think people want a new direction. Our values unify us and our values are about supporting America’s working families. That’s one that everyone is in agreement on. What we want is a better connection of our message to working families in our country, and that clearly in the election showed that that message wasn’t coming through."
No dear, respectfully, the message did come thru loud and clear, you and your ideals failed. The nation is in a Recession (HB called the W years a Depression) in many parts of the Nation, you might want to look at the winning message and move to help that mandate .
Ben Carson for HUD Sec.
That is a very fine pick.
President Elect Trump has made it clear, he will take $1 a year in pay.
When will the very rich on the left leadership do the same?
There are certainly a lot of teachers in South Carolina celebrating this week. Thank you, Stephen Colbert
While donnie buys portraits of himself, wishes he had a purple heart, and claims a boy scout fee as supporting that group. LOL
Twitter President Elect.
AP On Monday, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said progress with the Chinese could be "undermined" by a flare-up over the sovereignty of Taiwan, the self-governing island the U.S. broke diplomatic ties with in 1979. That split was part of an agreement with China, which claims the island as its own territory, although the U.S. continues to sell Taiwan billions in military equipment and has other economic ties.
China:
China: The biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt had $1.22 trillion in bonds, notes and bills in July, down $22 billion from the prior month, in the biggest drop since 2013, according to U.S. Treasury Department data released Friday in Washington and previous figures compiled by Bloomberg.
The portfolio of Japan, the largest holder after China, rose $6.9 billion to $1.15 trillion. Saudi Arabia’s holdings of Treasuries declined for a sixth straight month, to $96.5 billion.
In short, China could wreak havoc if they called in our debt. Russia is a key trade partner with China. Who will the Russians stand with? And bashing on China’s controversial South China Sea bases? On Twitter? Donald Trump is pushing into uncharted and very dangerous waters with his Twitter account…..and he hasn’t even taken the oath of office yet. He may do more than wreck the U.S. economy. He may drag us into full-scale military confrontation.
On Twitter the Twitter in Chief claimed that the call to Taiwan months in advance. If he had done so, he would have known that the Chinese government could call in our debt, and if we did not comply, the US Dollar would become little more than the paper it's printed on. With the falling prices of crude oil, the Russian government, already facing serious economic problems, high unemployment, and perhaps if it gets worse, domestic descent. Putin isn't afraid to use force, he's done so in the past. But if the big money people who have supported him, may start to distance themselves from him. So the Putin/ Trump love affair might just move towards separation or divorce.
It's well known that my biggest problem with Trump is his willingness to lie and is able to get away with it. And that from reports inside the board room, the people there, speaking anonymously to reporters like Chuck Todd. He is perhaps the most respected journalist in the political field today, so his reports, that I posted yesterday were disturbing. He tends to go with his last impulse, that is not necessarily based on factual analysis, but his gut feelings.
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