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Wednesday, March 1, 2017

Democratic response...

The early results from a CNN flash poll showed that nearly 80% of viewers had a positive reaction to the Trump speech last night, and 57% had a very positive reaction. 70% feel more optimistic about the country after viewing the speech. This falls somewhat short of where Obama's first congressional address was eight years ago, but was actually better than Obama's final state of the Union address..

The Democratic response was obviously made more difficult by what was quite obviously the best Trump speech he has given since announcing his intentions to run for President. I am sure they were expecting some lower hanging fruit to go after, but it wasn't to be. But let's go through some of it.

  • The literal response was given by a former governor in what appeared to be a small town cafe. It had a strange, almost surreal quality. Quite honestly, I wasn't exactly sure what the point was. Were they trying to play to the small town elderly white crowd? Possibly, but I am not sure how this would appeal to their base (who had to feel a bit troubled by the positive reaction to Trump)
  • Schumer and the Democrats demanded that Trump's speech was detached from reality. Trying to hit Trump on policy specifics, Schumer demanded that the speech would be forgotten, and that what people want is action. A funny thing for Schumer to say, when his stated intentions as Senate Minority leader is to try to oppose everything Trump does and bring action to a grinding halt.
  • The liberal media pundits were split between providing some faint praise, while simultaneously trying to argue (similar to Schumer) that his speech was a combination of distortions, bait and switch, and irrelevant pulls to emotion. Again, did everyone forget that our last President passed two laws in his first year, then spent seven years defending them with speeches. He was all talk and no action. Hard to make the argument "today" that speeches don't matter, when the ability to give a speech is what propelled Obama to two terms.
  • The fact checkers had a field day finding small irrelevant flaws or basically citing straw man attacks as a means to contradict what was said. For instance, the fact that many of the companies that have vowed to invest in jobs and production activities here in America may have had less to do with Donald Trump than might be implied, does not mean that these companies didn't made these commitments. The commitment (not who gets credit) is what matters. Moreover, fact checkers today seem to have difficulty staying on task. If Trump states something about statistic "A" - then it's not fact checking to counter with something about statistic "B".  You cannot counter (as a fact checker) a murder rate in a specific town with statistics about overall crime nationwide. You cannot agree that something is correct, but then argue it wrong by providing your own clarity to said truth. 

Overall, this was  big night for Trump and the Republicans and therefor a tough one for Democrats. For no other reason than it puts the Democrats on the defensive, rather than where they expected to be. I heard a lot about how Trump "became President" or how last night's speech "normalized" him. This is actually the "last" thing Democrats want to hear, as most of their strategy revolves around their ability to undermine and delegitimize President Trump. I am not even sure that they have a plan "B".


59 comments:

Loretta Russo said...

He did exactly what I wanted, and expressed yesterday.

He was precise, on message, showed compassion while remaining firm.

caliphate4vr said...

"The Democratic bench is so depleted they've turned to a 72-year-old former governor with absolutely no political future to give their prime-time response," Reed said a statement. "They literally have no rising up-and-comer to elevate. Out-of-power, leaderless, and in the midst of a raging ideological civil war, 2017 is truly a sad time to be a Democrat."

Oh, it's awful to be a small regional party, with no power, wandering in the wilderness. Wait that's not the R's.....

LMAO

KD, Dow Rockets up, 2,800 points since election, real wealth in 401k's, 457b and 529 plans said...

He was precise, on message, showed compassion while remaining firm. " Ette


The lame stream media is in full throat attacking him, Michelle Mooron was saying the Speech was pulled from Hitler.

What I like about the speech the most is he looked at the DEMS and told them how they need to do their jobs and work for ALL AMERICANS.

Americans that watch and their where one hell of a lot of them saw a guy that is for the people , for this country and for improvement of the lives of others.

rrb said...

Oh, it's awful to be a small regional party, with no power, wandering in the wilderness. Wait that's not the R's.....

LMAO
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yet another one of ol' rog's political prognostications turns to shit.

is anyone keeping track of how many failed predictions we're up to?

Roger Amick said...

All things considered, it was a definite improvement over most of his unhinged comments since he took office. His show business experience was evident in his delivery.

Most of the anti American people analysis media of the speech was fairly positive. He stuck to the canned speech for most of the time. Although he made some comments that were misleading, but nothing outrageous.

Most of the speech won't be remembered. The part of it was the widow of Ryan, who's look to heaven was deeply emotional. She brought me to tears. Yes, I'm an emotional human being.

But, and you knew that this was coming. His comment on the length of the applause was so typically of his need to be number one, was exhibited.

One of the hardest parts of being President, is reaching out to the families who lost a loved one. But, and you know it was coming, was his comment that the operation in Kenya was a success. Most of the experienced military comments were negative. For two reasons.

1: He had previously commented that the problems with the operation were Obama's fault. This time he said it was a success. It was NOT a success, they didn't get the target of the operation, and 13 civilians, including several children were killed.

2: He was having dinner when the call came in, he just said go, then continued his meal. The President of the United States, should be in the situation room, not enjoying a meal while American lives are at stake.

It will be lost behind the emotional aspects of his speech. But it should not be forgotten or forgiven.

rrb said...

The President of the United States, should be in the situation room, not enjoying a meal while American lives are at stake.
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uh huh.

yeah, you're the final word on how a president should conduct themselves and handle the duties of the office.

why don't you just shut the fuck up, alky.

your judgement and moral standing are in the same shape as your gin-soaked liver.

Roger Amick said...

I was logical, accurate and timely.

The usual racist rodent bigot comments were as predictable as the sun sets in the west.

I pity those close to you. The anger must exhibit itself in a dangerous manner.

Loretta Russo said...

SO, the President gets a call from generals in the field requesting the "go ahead" on a mission.....

...he's supposed to tell them, "hold on"?

That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works, drunkard.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
I was logical, accurate and timely.
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no, you were full of shit, as usual.

you're the last person who should be telling the president how he should be conducting himself in office, unless of course the goal is to get on the liver transplant list.

rrb said...

That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works, drunkard.
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he can't take his mind off of 0linsky's bin laden photo op in the situation room.

the dumb fuck thinks the prez is supposed to strike a pose for every mission.

rrb said...




hey alky, i think you might just be in luck. i hear oprah is considering a 2020 run.

your permanent democrat majority is just around the corner.

Commonsense said...

I was logical, accurate and timely.

Well Rog, if you were you wouldn't have given Barack Obama a pass for disappearing the night of the Benghazi attacks.

An attack we now know was a planned operation and not due to some internet video.

Donald Trump never lied to the widow of William Ryan Owens like Obama and Clinton lied to the relatives of those killed in the Benghazi attack.

But you think Trump "should not be forgotten or forgiven".

What a hypocrite you are.

KD, 80 Percent Liked Trump Speech said...

. Yes, I'm an emotional human being."

Yes you are emotional, like a pink dress wearing little girl.

rrb said...

Well Rog, if you were you wouldn't have given Barack Obama a pass for disappearing the night of the Benghazi attacks.

An attack we now know was a planned operation and not due to some internet video.

Donald Trump never lied to the widow of William Ryan Owens like Obama and Clinton lied to the relatives of those killed in the Benghazi attack.
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ouch.


hey rog, ya better put some ice on that.



KD, said...

I was logical, accurate and timely." HB

Really, you actually believe that your ill-logical gutter snipping is timely and accurate.


Better run now boy, your slip is showing.


The "8 Lost Years" are over, the carnage to the black family has been horrific.

More are on food stamps for their daily meal
less are employed
less own their homes
less are starting up business
less are female start ups


We have tracked this over the "8 lost years" there are more , but it was summed up by our good black friend Liberal and Yuge Obama in-bed PBS tv talk show host (still on the air and doing well , as well as the 1st Amendment) Travis Smiley:

"“
Megyn Kelly: On the subject of race, are we better off today that seven years ago?

Tavis Smiley: I’m not sure we are and I think ultimately the president missed a moment… On every leading economic issue, in the leading economic issues Black Americans have lost ground in every one of those leading categories. So in the last ten years it hasn’t been good for black folk. This is the president’s most loyal constituency that didn’t gain any ground in that period. "

The left loves Megyn Kelly , so this was a two-fer.

rrb said...



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Roger Amick said...

The Real Enemy of the People Is a President Who Opposes the Free Press

No president who takes seriously an oath to “preserve, protect and defend” the Constitution would say what Trump is saying.
By John NicholsTwitter

Roger Amick said...

No I didn't. He should have been in the room. But you have spent millions investigating Secretary Clinton, and got bupkiss

Loretta Russo said...

" He should have been in the room. "

LOL. What room, and where is that room?

Loretta Russo said...

"Well Rog, if you were you wouldn't have given Barack Obama a pass for disappearing the night of the Benghazi attacks."

James Foley, beheaded...

Obama: FORE!!!!

rrb said...



hey 'ette,

march is wymyn's history month. take a minute to celebrate then fire up the ol' hoveround and make me a sammich, ok?

;->

rrb said...

By John NicholsTwitter
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the fucking tool who writes for "the nation"?

THAT john nichols?

LOL.

Loretta Russo said...

"march is wymyn's history month. take a minute to celebrate then fire up the ol' hoveround and make me a sammich, ok?"

A ham sammich?

rrb said...

He should have been in the room.
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he was in the room. the dining room. having dinner.

fortunately for all of us trump has surrounded himself with extremely competent military leadership. he approves a mission and expects it to be carried out with a high degree of precision. he fulfilled his duty as C in C, and he let his military personnel do their job.

your ass ache is that trump delivered a SUPERB speech last night. he had democrats standing and applauding. you're just desperate to pick nits because you're a desperate, petty "man" in the grips of stage 4 TDS.

that much is evident by your willingness to trot out a shitheel like john nichols.

piss off, alky.

"trump WON," and "the election is over."




rrb said...

A ham sammich?
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i'll have what president trump is having. while he approves the next mission from anywhere BUT the situation room.

who knew that the alky was an armchair general too, eh?

KD, Dow WOW said...

But you have spent millions investigating Secretary Clinton, and got bupkiss" HyperBolic

Really, again, you miss so much ,,,, is it President Hillary Clinton?


Ette, HAM is the perfect choice, anti-Muslim .


RRB have you looked at what President Trump is doing to damage Mexico, well, lets just say the Paso is dropping faster then the no - botox face of Nanci PoLOSEY.

LOL, fun , winning, anyone tired of it yet?

Wait, 80 percent looked upon the President in a favorable lite, yet the HyperBolic crowd of 20 % believe the 1st Amendment is dying, yet, those that state that are too stupid to realize they are using the 1st Amendment at the time they are saying it.

HB, HINT it is going to RAIN.

KD, US Press Discovered the US President Last night said...

White Women Wearing White Shirts and Dresses, looked like the Dems returning to their "ROOTS" , just missing the hoods.


"I aint' no way tir'd" Hillary negro voice

Loretta Russo said...

"i'll have what president trump is having. while he approves the next mission from anywhere BUT the situation room."

A BIG juicy steak for you!!!

Only the finest while you're NOT in the "room".....

rrb said...

A BIG juicy steak for you!!!
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awesome, thanks! please wrap it in bacon in case there's a moose-limb lurking nearby.

LOL.

rrb said...




https://cached-assets.patriotpost.us/images/2017-03-01-746d346c_large.jpg


democrats - all they're missing are the hoods.

rrb said...



The early television news reviews of the Trump presidency are in and they are not good — not even on Fox News.

This is based on a new analysis by Media Tenor, an international, independent media research firm. Trained analysts examined 370 news stories about Donald Trump on the “NBC Nightly News,” “CBS Evening News” and Fox News “Special Report” between Jan. 20 and Feb. 17.

Why focus on these outlets? Although the audience for the evening national newscasts has shrunk, they consistently draw well over 20 million viewers and shape the political discourse on social media, local television news and elsewhere. Television news remains a highly important source of information among the citizens most likely to vote. Fox News has an especially devoted following among conservatives.

Here is what this analysis found. Only 3 percent of the reports about Trump that aired on NBC and CBS were positive, while 43 percent were negative and 54 percent were neutral.

On “Special Report,” the Fox News program that most closely resembles the evening network news, 25 percent of the reports about Trump were negative, compared with 12 percent positive and the remainder neutral. In other words, even the conservative-leaning Fox News featured twice as much bad press as good press.

The networks differed in their emphases. Fox News focused on personnel decisions in the new White House, and coverage of that issue area was more positive than negative by a ratio of 2 to 1. Another bright spot for Trump was Fox’s coverage of economic news: There was mostly positive coverage of the new president’s initiatives that are intended to strengthen the international competitiveness of U.S. business.

CBS and NBC focused more on Trump’s immigration policy and whether he was respecting U.S. constitutional norms such as separation of powers. Most of these news reports were far more negative than positive. But CBS and NBC coverage of Trump’s international diplomacy was more positive than negative, but there were fewer stories on that topic than on others.

Of course, the news media’s role as a monitor of government usually leads to at least some negative news. But the negative coverage of Trump seems unusual. Our previous research in “The Global President” found that President Barack Obama received much less negative coverage than Trump has received at the start of their respective presidencies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/02/28/news-coverage-of-trump-is-really-really-negative-even-on-fox-news/?dg&utm_term=.77dc2026b9db


the last thingy is called a link, alky.

required when you lift some info from another source.

rrb said...

A former Hillary Clinton volunteer drew swift condemnation -- and lost his job -- after mocking the widow of a fallen Navy SEAL who was honored by the president during his congressional address Tuesday night.

Dan Grilo, who said in his Twitter profile that he was a former volunteer for both Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama, made the remarks after Trump paid tribute to Carryn Owens. She is the widow of U.S. Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens, who was killed in a counterterrorism raid in Yemen last month.

[...]

“Sorry, Owens' wife, you’re not helping yourself or your husband’s memory by standing there and clapping like an idiot. Trump just used you.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/01/former-clinton-volunteer-in-hot-water-after-swipe-at-widow-fallen-seal.html



stay classy, liberals.




KD, everyones Ins costs are UP YUGGLY said...

caliphate4vr said...
And for many people on the health care exchanges, federal subsidies are offsetting premium increases.

And the subsidies come from unicorns that shit skittles

Fucking idiots

10:09 AM"

From the Hyperbolic blog

KD, AFL-CIO on Trump Bandwagon said...

RRB the Hate, the open HATE is all liberals have.

SO may I stir the pot a bit. Remember I told you that UNIONS Love Trump.

HB said I was wrong, well, at that moment you know I am right, a little more proof.


Oh yeah, AFL-CIO President, not some step-n-fetch like our fake Carpenter.


“I think his change of tone,” Trumka said during an interview on the FOX Business Network, “signaled he’s about to start doing business rather than playing for the camera—that was a good sign.”

Trumka pointed out President Trump’s comments on illegal immigration and the three-decade long stagnate wage issue in America. Even though he would have preferred to hear more from Trump on this, he said he’s willing to partner with the White House to tackle these issues.

“Talking about trade the way he has, doing away with TPP was good, talking about redoing NAFTA is good… and will we partner with him? Absolutely,” he said. “Will we partner with him to try to rewrite the immigration rules of the country? Absolutely because those will help workers, it will decrease the imbalance between corporate America and workers.”

Trumka added he would also like see Trump follow up on his promises to boost the working class.

“[Workers] have been beat down for four decades…If you come from rural America or Appalachia, where I come from, workers just feel like they’ve been left behind.” He noted this was a big reason why Trump won the election."

Roger Amick said...

racist rodent bigot said that I lifted my comments were from a source.

As usual, he is wrong.

I wrote this actually twice, because I accidentally closed the window and lost it.

Roger Amick said...
All things considered, it was a definite improvement over most of his unhinged comments since he took office. His show business experience was evident in his delivery.

Most of the anti American people analysis media of the speech was fairly positive. He stuck to the canned speech for most of the time. Although he made some comments that were misleading, but nothing outrageous.

Most of the speech won't be remembered. The part of it was the widow of Ryan, who's look to heaven was deeply emotional. She brought me to tears. Yes, I'm an emotional human being.

But, and you knew that this was coming. His comment on the length of the applause was so typically of his need to be number one, was exhibited.

One of the hardest parts of being President, is reaching out to the families who lost a loved one. But, and you know it was coming, was his comment that the operation in Kenya was a success. Most of the experienced military comments were negative. For two reasons.

1: He had previously commented that the problems with the operation were Obama's fault. This time he said it was a success. It was NOT a success, they didn't get the target of the operation, and 13 civilians, including several children were killed.

2: He was having dinner when the call came in, he just said go, then continued his meal. The President of the United States, should be in the situation room, not enjoying a meal while American lives are at stake.

It will be lost behind the emotional aspects of his speech. But it should not be forgotten or forgiven.


I wrote it. Completely. Kiss my ass, jackoff.

Roger Amick said...


the last thingy is called a link, alky.

required when you lift some info from another source.

I didn't even check the papers. I was surprised that Chris Matthews somewhat positive for the speech.

I haven't been reading or watching television. I got an upgrade to my Dish Network to my hopper and Joie
the last thingy is called a link, alky.

required when you lift some info from another source.
s.

Sorry Jimmy, I can write at a level far over your head.

if i wanted to scribble like a fourth grade failure, i would have to get a lobotomy and remove the front of my brain, alky olinski.

PNC said...

Rrb:
"fortunately for all of us trump has surrounded himself with extremely competent military leadership. he approves a mission and expects it to be carried out with a high degree of precision. he fulfilled his duty as C in C, and he let his military personnel do their job."

Wrong. Princess Trump knowingly fast-tracked a mission that wasn't ready for prime time and lost a life because of his need to prove to the world that he has a dick.

PNC said...

Whoretta:
"LOL. What room, and where is that room?"

You know, the place where Trump does all of his most top secret work... the lobby at Mar-a-Lago.

PNC said...

GayD:
"RRB have you looked at what President Trump is doing to damage Mexico, well, lets just say the Paso is dropping faster then the no - botox face of Nanci Pelosi."

Sure, let's piss of one of the few countries within shooting range of us, a country we need as a partner in curbing the drug trade.

Maybe we can get Mexico to pay for a Chinese ballistic missile silo in Baja if we tick them off enough.

Who would have thought Trump could piss off our nominal allies even faster than Obama did?

If it's a race to lose the goodwill of the rest of the planet, Trump certainly won that.

Thanks to Trump our number of allies and potential allies is shrinking faster than your gay erection when you see a woman.

PNC said...

GayD:
"Remember I told you that UNIONS Love Trump."

That's called a "hint", faggot-ass.

Since when has the President of the AFL-CIO ever had the nation's best interests in mind?

He's a fucking socialist, just like you.

PNC said...

HB:
"He was having dinner when the call came in, he just said go, then continued his meal."

Greenlighting critical anti-terror operations on an unsecured cell phone.

Might as well be uploading mission plans to a DNC server.

Sloppy is one thing. Sloppy with American lives is another. No wonder the intel community is holding back intelligence from him.

PNC said...

Trump makes a speech giving lip service to American jobs, buying American, and all that jazz.

Meanwhile Ivanka wears a dress that's made in France.

Hypocritical skank.

cowardly king obama said...


pop, POP, pop, pop, POP, POP, pop


ROFLMAO !!!!

Roger Amick said...

Sessions is exploding

Roger Amick said...

Then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) spoke twice last year with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Justice Department officials said, encounters he did not disclose when asked about possible contacts between members of President Trump’s campaign and representatives of Moscow during Sessions’s confirmation hearing to become attorney general.

One of the meetings was a private conversation between Sessions and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak that took place in September in the senator’s office, at the height of what U.S. intelligence officials say was a Russian cyber campaign to upend the U.S. presidential race.

....Officials said Sessions did not consider the conversations relevant to the lawmakers’ questions and did not remember in detail what he discussed with Kislyak.

That was Mike Flynn's initial answer too, wasn't it? That he "didn't remember" the details of a conversation from less than half a year ago.


Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the drunkard

Roger Amick said...

Go fuck yourself, twit. Sobriety Rocks.

No Alzheimer's is double the fun.

Sessions, the story is going viral.

CH will have an excuse tomorrow morning .

Like the sun rises in the east.

Loretta Russo said...

Poor broken down old drunkard.

Loretta Russo said...

"Meanwhile Ivanka wears a dress that's made in France."

Lying unhinged lunatic.

Loretta Russo said...

Reminder.....this is the unhinged lunatic aka PNC:

"PNC February 21, 2017 at 3:33 PM

I'm going to go on record: Trump (or one of his surrogates) paid to have provocateurs riot in Sweden. The timing is just too improbable otherwise.

Makes you wonder about a number of other proven right within days statements Trump has made about terrorism, immigration, etc.

You heard it here first."

LMAO!!!!!

rrb said...

Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111!!!!

never forget the landslide part, alky. that's your trademark.



Commonsense said...

Wrong. Princess Trump knowingly fast-tracked a mission that wasn't ready for prime time

Wrong the mission was meticulously planned and trained for and was ready to go before Trump took office.

All they were waiting for was a moonless night to execute it.

Giving the risk and potential benefits from the mission, any president would have given to go.

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Loretta Russo said...

I see that Valerie Jarrett will be living with Michele Obama....

A ménage à trois - kinky.

caliphate4vr said...

Moral Outrage Is Self-Serving, Say Psychologists
Perpetually raging about the world's injustices? You're probably overcompensating.

Loretta Russo said...

Hence, Roger's white guilt.

PNC said...

Whoretta:
"Lying unhinged lunatic."

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/03/01/glamour-elegance-ivanka-melania-brought-joint-address-bitter-libs-take-454069

Ivanka wore a fuchsia evening gown by French designer Roland Mouret Rawlings, while Melania opted for a sequined black suit from American designer Michael Kors.

Remember this is the trailer trash Whoretta who has no higher aspiration in life than being Donald Trump's jizz rag.

Loretta Russo said...

My mistake, loon.

Myballs said...

Valerie Jerrett moving in with the Obamas is proof that he is taking the historic and unprecedented step of undermining and sabotaging his successor. This is sn outrageous and selfish action.

KD, GM,,, PHC , HB and Opium great day said...

His Chicago is dying and on fire, does he care hell no, never has, that is what small selfish people do, move to where it is safe for them and their family, he is not down for any struggle.

Remember he hates wealth - unless it is his signed a 60 million dollar book deal. He should donate it all to the US Tax Payer.