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Saturday, May 13, 2017

Here is a question...

What would the "collusion" between the Russian Hackers and Trump campaign actually look like?

To me, there are only really three actual situations where one could offer some proof of collusion that would measure up to any standards of criminal behavior:
  1. That someone from the Trump campaign "helped" the Russians hack the Clinton emails. 
  2. That someone from the Trump campaign "payed" the Russians to hack the Clinton emails.
  3. That someone from the Trump campaign "knows" the true identify of the actual hackers. 
Otherwise, what exactly would the FBI, the Senate Intelligence, or the House Intelligence committees really be looking for?  

For anyone to prove collusion... the first thing that they would need to do is actually know (for sure) who the hackers are. Knowing that they are Russian or making an assumption that Putin must be directing them, does not in any manner, shape, or form rise to the level of knowing the identity of the hackers. You simply cannot prove any sort of collusion without actually knowing the identities of both of the alleged parties that are supposedly colluding.

Like moths drawn to light... Liberals are drawn to conspiracy theories

Moreover, it's very unlikely that any of the Trump people being mentioned as possible targets of the investigation would have the computer expertise to "assist" the high level hackers that got into the DNC and Clinton campaign servers. It also doesn't seem very plausible that these hackers would be paid by the Trump camp while simultaneously being directed by Putin (which is the official U.S. Intelligence stance at this point). 

So that leaves the possibility that someone within the Trump campaign has personal knowledge of the true identities of the hackers, possibly having some communications, and has not turned this information over to the authorities. This could be collusion in the sense of obstructing justice (or possibly an accessory) rather than anyone being an active participant. 

Reality: It appears like most of those on the unhinged left tossing around the allegations have not really reconciled what it is that they are exactly looking for.  They just know that they are hoping someone finds some "ties" (in the most generic term)... that even if they exist... probably don't prove anything even remotely close to actual criminal collusion. 

This is a classic case of someone engaging in some serious cognitive dissonance. They just "feel" like something must be there, and will continue to demand that the lack of evidence found so far is just more proof that we need to ramp up the investigations.

Either that, or the powers to be in the Democratic Party understand that their followers are not quite bright enough to look at this with their eyes open. They know that their supporters (much like a moth drawn to light) will reflexively become all discombobulated at the thought of more conspiracies by the ever evil (and certainly crazy) President Trump.

95 comments:

rrb said...

from "Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign":


"That strategy had been set within twenty-four hours of her concession speech. Mook and Podesta assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument."

https://www.amazon.com/Shattered-Inside-Hillary-Clintons-Campaign/dp/0553447084?tag=breitbart035-20



so the reality is that we are having to endure this bullshit because clinton and her supporters and the media needed an excuse to explain away her loss.


James said...

Senate Begins to Look at Trump’s Money Laundering ... er... Businesses

“A Treasury Department unit that specializes in combating money-laundering will share financial records with an expanding Senate probe into possible ties between Russia and President Trump and his associates,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), a member of the intelligence committee, said “that he is particularly interested in information about shell companies, money laundering and the use of property transfers that may be germane to the committee’s Trump investigation.”

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

James said...

If Ch's tortured logic in his lead article were the least bit convincing, the Republican controlled legislative branch of our government would slam the brakes on any Russian collusion investigations.

Why haven't they?

Loretta Russo said...

"so the reality is that we are having to endure this bullshit because clinton and her supporters and the media needed an excuse to explain away her loss."

Bingo.

Which is why the pedophile spends his time spamming every thread.

opie said...

Here's some opinion from a letter writer.... I tend to agree with letting him burn his own bridge down and the likes of CH with him since they all defend the constant lying and flip flops and his not getting anything done but total discord.

Trump is the single greatest impediment to the Republican agenda. If he isn't sucking the oxygen out of the room with scandal and over promising things he can't deliver he's flip flopping on major policy. A perfect storm is brewing. Our fantasy is to let Trump take down Republicans with him. It's just a water spout now. We're waiting for the hurricane.

Keep digging, the bottom is near.....

opie said...

Loretta the trash mouth Russo said...


Bingo.

Which is why the pedophile spends his time spamming every thread.

Wonder why anyone would allow this BS to continue.. Probably because she has her marine pussy whipped.

Loretta Russo said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

James said...

Manafort’s Bank Records Sought In Probe

“The Justice Department last month requested banking records of Paul Manafort as part of a widening of probes related to President Trump’s former campaign associates and whether they colluded with Russia in interfering with the 2016 election,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
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Rat must be wondering why they aren't investigating the Clintons instead. :-)

opie said...

I'm sure rooting that trump has tapes and they get subpoenaed. I would bet the outcome will be nixonian and show the world what a big baby he is. Gonna be fun!!!!

James said...

Will there be 18 minute gaps?

opie said...

Loretta the asshole Russo said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

No loretta, I count on you for being the idiot of the board to remind me what a dumb fucking injun you are. LOL!!!!

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta Russo said...

Great, this whore is back...

"MICHELLE OBAMA COMES OUT OF HIDING To Accuse President Trump Of “Not Caring About Your Kids” Wants Them To Eat “Crap”"

opie said...

Loretta the troll Russo said...
Spam by the pedo

May 13, 2017 at 8:02 AM
Blogger Loretta Russo said...
Great, this whore is back...

While the whore of kansas once again show us why she is just a dumb, uneducated, republicon' . Sad how much time she spends trolling and adding no cogent thoughts, MO of all the trump sycophants .

LOLOLOL

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's America.....black thugs:

"It's becoming fairly commonplace for public acts of violence to occur when liberals don't get exactly what they want. We used to rely on free speech at town halls to debate our differences, but we're living in a post-Obama era now, where Soros paid thugs have been committing so many acts of violence occur that we almost expect it. Sadly, wherever there is a gathering of people with opposing political views, most Americans now expect to see violence take place…"

Loretta Russo said...

Another one of Obama's black thugs...this could be his son:

"A Florida teenager turned himself in to police after a video showing him dragging and throwing a woman into a pool was posted online, officials said.

The video was captured during a pool party Saturday at a residential community in North Lauderdale, the Broward County Sheriff's Office said."

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's disease ridden America....

"(CNN) - New hepatitis C virus infections in the United States nearly tripled between the years 2010 and 2015."

Loretta Russo said...

There's no telling what "favors" this slut preformed....

"BREAKING: Bangladesh Prime Minister Drops BOMBSHELL! Says Hillary Clinton Performed Dubious Favors For Clinton Foundation Donor"

My only question is, was Michelle Obama with her?

Loretta Russo said...

Figures. Probably Obama's real mother.....

"Obama, Clinton Ally Found Guilty of Fraud – Could Spend Life in Prison"

Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/obama-clinton-ally-democrat-guilty-life-prison/#ixzz4gxxcKGqX

opie said...

Loretta Russo said...
Figures. Probably Obama's real mother...

And how is that relevant to Trump? Just throwing stuff to see if it sticks, another sign of the weak minded who defend the liar in chief. And how much did donnie pay to absolve himself of Trump U????? LOLOLOL

Loretta Russo said...

Another whore.....should be in jail, eating pussy.

"If the Canadian Mounties always get their man, can the FBI make a case against Hillary Clinton? With the new interim leadership, will the FBI now refocus upon Hillary Clinton and all the things that former Director James Comey said she was guilty of? Remember his list of all the laws that Comey listed that she had violated and in the same breath said it was OK because she did not mean to? Never has the nation been so astounded. The FBI doesn't even have to investigate. They can just use Comey's list. Go for it!"

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's America....

"An illegal immigration activist who became a poster-child for the open borders lobby is now facing deportation to Mexico."

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Loretta Russo said...

Another Obama son.....

"Details of Chelsea Manning's early Army career have come out, and it proves that the traitor was a horrible serviceman from the beginning... this is beyond sickening."

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's legacy.....

"SURVEY: Black College Students Prove Dumbest"

http://theblacksphere.net/2017/05/students-boo-betsy-devos-during-speech-at-all-black-university/

Loretta Russo said...

Hypocrisy is the bedrock of liberalism, says the great one.....

"How is it that the chief instigator of the President Trump-Russia conspiracy, Virginia Democratic Senator Mark Warner, can actually have such an extensive paper trail showing millions of dollars that he made from Russian tech company?

Loretta Russo said...

The two-bit community organizer is still very busy...

"Sally Yates. Susan Rice. The Obama Administration. When will the shadow government be exposed and held accountable for jeopardizing our national security?"

james said...

Trump Retreats Into His Bubble

Trump Meltdown Sets Off Midterm Election Alarms

SO MUCH other good stuff at politicalwire.com

james said...

Inside the White House: Comey Damage Control and No Easy Way Out
--MSN

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's legacy...

"While shootings were down, murders in April were up compared to last year. In April 2016, there were 36 murders in Chicago. There were 45 murders in April 2017."

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's America.....black thugs:

"It's becoming fairly commonplace for public acts of violence to occur when liberals don't get exactly what they want. We used to rely on free speech at town halls to debate our differences, but we're living in a post-Obama era now, where Soros paid thugs have been committing so many acts of violence occur that we almost expect it. Sadly, wherever there is a gathering of people with opposing political views, most Americans now expect to see violence take place…"

Loretta Russo said...

Another one of Obama's black thugs...this could be his son:

"A Florida teenager turned himself in to police after a video showing him dragging and throwing a woman into a pool was posted online, officials said.

The video was captured during a pool party Saturday at a residential community in North Lauderdale, the Broward County Sheriff's Office said."

Loretta Russo said...

Obama's legacy continues...

"An outbreak of Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo that began April 22 has resulted in at least one death and possibly two others, according to the World Health Organization."

Loretta Russo said...

Too bad Obama was too stupid to address this.....these things don't happen overnight.

"Experts are calling it one of the biggest cyber attacks ever."

Loretta Russo said...

Too bad Obama was too stupid to address this.....these things don't happen overnight.

"Experts are calling it one of the biggest cyber attacks ever."

Loretta Russo said...

"Protesters demanded that Medgar Evers College cancel Hillary Clinton’s scheduled commencement address at the mostly Black Brooklyn institution, next month. The Clintons are a criminal family, said Dahoud Andre, of Komokoda, the Committee to Mobilize Against Dictatorship in Haiti. If Medgar Evers College honors the former secretary of state, it will be condoning “the crimes of the Clinton family, and Hillary Clinton, personally, against the people of Haiti and against Black youth, who she called ‘animals’ and ‘thugs’ who should be ‘brought to heel,’” said Andre.

Haiti"

Loretta Russo said...

"Barack Obama’s greatest legacy and accomplishment was being elected as the first black president of the United States.

For black Americans, it has been downhill ever since, from "Yes we can" to "No he didn’t."

Yes, there was a certain pride in all black Americans that a black man had been elected President of the United States, where hundreds of years earlier blacks suffered through slavery, racism, and not that far back, blatant racial discrimination in virtually every segment of society and part of the country — some of which continues to this day."

Loretta Russo said...

"And, of course, we now know what we didn’t know a week ago: there is an ongoing, five-office FBI probe of the Clinton Foundation,” he added. “So I believe the FBI investigation goes on into the Clinton Foundation, rather than the emails.”

rrb said...



this is a parody twitter account and liberals are hilariously falling for it:

https://twitter.com/sean_spicier

rrb said...

and not that far back, blatant racial discrimination in virtually every segment of society and part of the country — some of which continues to this day."
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of course it continues to this day. the 'great society' institutionalized it. LBJ was not kidding when he said - i'll have them n*ggers votin' democrat for the next 200 years."

caliphate4vr said...

Obama’s Former Defense Secretary: Yeah, We Lied To The Israelis That We’d Stop Iran From Going Nuclear

C.H. Truth said...

Well James...

Unlike you, I don't let politicians do my thinking for me.

Secondly, if the GOP decided to "shut it down" right now due to lack of evidence... would you be okay with that?

Loretta Russo said...
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Loretta Russo said...

"Obama’s Former Defense Secretary: Yeah, We Lied To The Israelis That We’d Stop Iran From Going Nuclear"

Bibi wasn't fooled.

rrb said...

For Linda Dearman, the House vote last week to repeal the Affordable Care Act was a welcome relief.

Ms. Dearman, of Bartlett, Ill., voted for President Trump largely because of his contempt for the federal health law. She and her husband, a partner in an engineering firm, buy their own insurance, but late last year they dropped their $1,100-a-month policy and switched to a bare-bones plan that does not meet the law’s requirements. They are counting that the law will be repealed before they owe a penalty.

“Now it looks like it will be, and we’re thrilled about that,” Ms. Dearman, 54, said. “We are so glad to feel represented for a change.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/health/affordable-care-act-repeal.html?_r=0



ah yes, that feeling of actually being represented after 8 years of not being is a wonderful feeling.

Loretta Russo said...

What a remarkable, uplifting, stirring welcome to a fantastic speech...

"LIVE: President Donald J. Trump delivers his first commencement speech as president to Liberty University in Virginia, a Christian college whose leader was among Trump’s earliest and most vocal"

#MAGA

rrb said...

Bibi wasn't fooled.
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which is exactly bibi spent more time conversing with putin than 0linsky the last two years.

Loretta Russo said...

Olinsky is a dick.

opie said...

to Liberty University in Virginia, a Christian college whose leader was among Trump’s

Yeah, that bastion of christian bigotry where girls are girls and men learn hatred of anything none white.

Loretta Russo said...

"LIVE: President Donald J. Trump delivers his first commencement speech as president to Liberty University in Virginia, a Christian college whose leader was among Trump’s earliest and most vocal"

Compared to the racist black kids at Bethune-Cookman, it's very refreshing.

Liberty University kids are real Christians.

Refreshing.

opie said...

They are counting that the law will be repealed before they owe a penalty.

Or they don't get sick and are bankrupted being saved by hospital care. Brilliant choice for such educated people, gambling that congress will screw them less with a new ACT, worse than the old ACT!!!! Great post Rat, proving you are dumber than the brick loretta.

Loretta Russo said...

Someday everyone will be "shocked" when one of the Bethune-Cookman students throws a Molotov cocktail.

Loretta Russo said...

This isn't rocket science for most of us.

Obamacare isn't working. Insurers are leaving marketplaces throughout the country, premiums are skyrocketing, out of pocket expenses are through the goddamned roof and deductibles are soaring. Obamacare is imploding, it was given to us by the democrats who aren't lifting a finger to help fix it.

Loretta Russo said...

"ah yes, that feeling of actually being represented after 8 years of not being is a wonderful feeling."

January 20, 2017

Loretta Russo said...

If Obama had a son, he would be Mr Collins...

"“He admitted to my partner, that he grabbed Landon by his face and threw him down on the ground and it caused him to double flip prior to smashing his head on the ground,” said Fort Collins police detective Jacklyn Shaklee. “The reason that Mr. Collins did that is because Landon was crawling toward a PlayStation cord and he didn't want the play station to be pulled off the shelf.”

http://www.9news.com/mb/life/moms/mom-of-toddler-expected-to-die-from-sitter-abuse-shares-her-story-to-warn-parents/438322844

rrb said...

Obamacare is imploding, it was given to us by the democrats who aren't lifting a finger to help fix it.
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when you have to pass a piece of legislation in the dead of night on christmas eve using a series of procedural parlor tricks, you know it was a pile of shit to begin with.

Loretta Russo said...

Exactly.

KD said...

"(CNN) - New hepatitis C virus infections in the United States nearly tripled between the years 2010 and 2015." Ette


Yep,, and the epidemic of Opiums the death toll from those are more then from auto accidents.

Legacy of death and destroying America.


"Shattered" that is today's American Left.

KD, Lesbian Warren Say NO to Run For Prez in 2020 said...

Great, this whore is back...

"MICHELLE OBAMA COMES OUT OF HIDING To Accuse President Trump Of “Not Caring About Your Kids” Wants Them To Eat “Crap”"

Yep, that socialist is all upset that the kids rejected her twigs and berries lunches that they were throwing in the trash and on social media mocking as "Crap" and "Inedible".


Like I said I want Barrack/Moochelle and Bill the Rapist and Hillary Shattered to be out sucking up millions in speaking fees and Ponzi org's and keeping the attention of the fawning media on them.

YOU might have missed this YUGE NEWS , yesterday Pocahontis Warren stated that she in NOT running for President in 2020.

You know those that thought she and Biden were going to be the Anti- Trump have to be pissed. So looks like Bernie Sanders is the Front Runner, that is unless the Dims are stupid enough to put UP Hillary again.

opie said...

KD the goat fucker posted......

http://crookophobia.com/michelle-obama-blames-trump-admin-for-your-kids-eating-crap/

Impressive example of fake news. Like trump, just make shit up, it is what you do best. Go hill a tomato. LOLOL

opie said...

Loretta Russo said...
Someday everyone will be "shocked" when one of the Bethune-Cookman students throws a Molotov cocktail.

The same can be said if you posted a cogent thought......Idiot.... LOL

cowardly king obama said...

"Which is why the pedophile spends his time spamming every thread. "

Look this was james behavior before the last election with his childish deeds. Now despite being wrong and shocked that he lost he has nothing else so it looks like he is going to double down on his stupidity and flail away.

Classic definition of obsessed loser. Don't worry, he will grasp at typos and grammar errors to try and contribute... And be increasingly depressed because the world won't listen to him. He is after all the pastor who is going to stand in front of God and explain how God is wrong and should follow james's will. And he thinks that is rational...

ROFLMFAO !!!

Loretta Russo said...

LOL, so true King!

rrb said...



President Trump received a standing ovation from the 50,000 people in attendance at the Liberty U commencement today.

here's part of the reason why:

“We don’t need a lecture from Washington on how to lead our lives.”

“Because in America we don’t worship government, we worship God.”


james said...

White House officials had hoped last week's House vote would give the president a much-needed burst of momentum and infuse new energy into efforts to fully overhaul the "Obamacare" health law and pass a massive tax reform package. Aides were also eager for Trump's first foreign trip, a high-stakes blitz through the Middle East and Europe.

But the blowback from Comey's firing left the White House reeling once again. Trump's visible anger and erratic tweets prompted a reporter to ask Spicer on Friday if the president was "out of control."

"That's, frankly, offensive," Spicer said.
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Offensive or not, it's what a lot of people are thinking. :-)

james said...

Trump's Pick For Top USDA Scientist Isn't a Scientist
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And the Grand Obstructionist Party's pick for President isn't a President

C.H. Truth said...

Offensive or not, it's what a lot of people are thinking.

Actually James... it's called group think. When a whole lot of people don't actually think. You, Roger, and Opie are quality examples of this.

james said...

Ch, I love to see you keep trying to defend the indefensible.

james said...

Comey Is Willing To Testify, But Only In Public

C.H. Truth said...

Well James...

- Trump is the President
- Neil Gorsuch is on the USSC
- Comey is no longer FBI Director
- Illegal Immigration is down 70%
- 1.5 billion extra was tossed into the latest budget to squash it more
- The pipelines are being built
- Environmental orders are being undone and replaced by business friendly actions
- Drug traffickers are going to go to jail

Etc, etc, etc...

So while you read Politico and the Washington Post and live in that little fantasy world... the rest of us live in a world that has change dramatically since Trump has been President. And for a ton of people, they believe it's been change for the better.

I would rather be on the side of "reality" than the side of what "a bunch of knuckleheads think".

KD, said...

Again Opium having a hard time both reading what is posted here and who posted it.


We know oDopie owns a lot of guns , he keeps shooting himself in the face with them. Self inflicted liberal mooron.

KD said...

Trump's Pick For Top USDA Scientist Isn't a Scientist"

Is he Bill Nye?

james said...

How's that Wall coming along, Ch?

KD, Winning said...

Jane


What a stupid man - love - boy piece of shit you are.

james said...

NYT Analysis: Election Is Over, but Trump Still Can’t Seem to Get Past It

poor ole Trumpy

KD said...

White Washing all of the Black Days of Obama and his mooching wife.

The "Shattered" mind set of todays liberal is a thing of beauty, really.

KD, said...

NYT Analysis"

the only ones not over that shattering defeat by now duly elected President Trump are you sad Liberals.

Hillary is the self appointed leader of the Resist We Much street thugs.

I see she has opened a new Ponzi Scheme , never wanting to give up on fleecing stupid people of their money, are you with Her ->

SO those that know they can not beat President Trump so far are

Hillary
Warren
Biden

CA economy is taking a YUGE Hit, will the illegals being kept out or self deporting the Gov. Has to solve this problem, who will pick the crops in that state?

He should only look at the welfare lines and get those lazy fucks off to work, yep, that four letter word, WORK.

Roger Amick said...

I have couple of questions, the first one is speculation. s

1: If President Hillary Clinton was being investigated for deleting up to 300,000 emails. She fired Comey because he "was not doing a good job". Would our formerly esteemed host, would agree with the dismissal of the FBI director?

2: Are the Republicans correct, that the unpopular President Trump going to cost them lose both houses?

my guesses
1: Of course not.
2: Yes, in a historic turn about.

C.H. Truth said...

James - Those who understand Trump take him seriously, but not literally. Those who don't understand Trump take him literally, but not seriously.

Democrats demand that illegal immigration is actually good for the country, good for the economy, and most importantly eventually good for their own election prospects if they can legalize them eventually.

Democrats also argue that building a wall would be an ineffective way to derail illegal immigration. Spending the same amount of money on other means to secure the border would do more to curtail illegal entrance to the country (both immigration and drug trafficking).

Security and border control experts agreed with this assessment.


Donald Trump asked for 1 billion to help build a wall that most people said wouldn't help curtail the flow of illegals and the flow of drugs.

The Budget gave him 1.5 billion to use in other means to control illegal crossings.

So he got 150% of what he asked for in funds, with the stipulation that he chooses to use it for more effective means of controlling the borders.

Yeah... those Democrats sure pulled over a fast one on him!

Chuckle.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger -

I would have not have been surprised if Hillary fired Comey or kept him on. He had already closed the file on her case, and ultimately it's up to the Justice department in regards to much of what the FBI does. Lynch was said to be very much involved in the Clinton investigation... shutting down the idea of a Grand Jury and agreeing to the immunity deals and unusual legal counsel situations.

As far as the midterms... I know of no Republican or any pundit that suggests that the Republicans are in danger of losing the Senate. They are only defending eight seats and six of those are considered to be ultra-safe according to everyone. (Alabama, Mississippi, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming) - only Flake in Arizona and Heller in Nevada are considered competitive and at this point even Cook Report (which has traditionally missed more races to the left than Nate Silver) shows them leaning Republican.

Seems you simply like to make things up, Roger.

opie said...

So he got 150% of what he asked for in funds,

I guess with your simplistic logic, getting increased money for DHS as equivalency for the promised wall is another vain attempt at rationalizing the fact the wall is not being built, but keeping his promise. Horse crap. The mexicans will never pay for the wall and the only ones who pay for it is US!!! The 1.5 billion is going directly to the deficit and will burden your spawn with paying back. Wow, great news as you want taxes to be reduced while frivolously spending more on your perceived threat. BTW, didn't trump broadcast how much illegal crossing have gone down under trump? Seems the old budget was more than sufficient to quell your fears.....doncha think.

Loretta Russo said...

"President Trump received a standing ovation from the 50,000 people in attendance at the Liberty U commencement today."

From real Christians.

Loretta Russo said...

"Here is a question...

What would the "collusion" between the Russian Hackers and Trump campaign actually look like?"

Not one liberal genius could give an answer.

Have to wait for WP.

Pitiful.

C.H. Truth said...

Opie - Border crossings are down 70% and illegals in the United States are "self deporting".

That, in my mind... is keeping his promise. I really don't give a rat's ass if there is or isn't a physical wall ever built. I have always been more concerned with whether or we could reverse course on the illegal border crossings and the influx of illegal immigration.

Moreover, the numbers suggest that refugees are also being drastically reduced. Apparently the people running the show simply are not interviewing as many people, and there isn't the same "urgency" within the process as there was under Obama. According to critics on the left, the Administration is breaking the "spirit" of the judicial rulings (even as they are not breaking the orders).

Seems that ultimately, it can end up being about attitude, leadership, and simply reversing course on expectations. If you knew you could cross the border, get away with it, and find employment.. you go. If you knew you could give cursory information to a refugee agent and still get approved, you did.

But if you are not assured of getting a free pass or finding employment (administration is threatening to go after employers - smart) - then you don't get in. If you actually have to go through a real vetting process, then things tighten up.


It's simple really Opie... Obama wanted as many illegals and refugees as he could get into the Country, so they came. Trumps wants as few as possible, and so they hesitate.

C.H. Truth said...

In Minnesota, we used to literally get hundreds of refugees each month coming into our state from the "listed countries" (Somalia, Iraq, Syria, etc).

In April we had 35 from all of them combined.

james said...

Trump still keeps assuring his followers that there will be a Wall

james said...

Trump Tries to Crack Down on Leaks

Washington Post: “Trump has been stewing all week, aggrieved by sharp media scrutiny of his decision to fire Comey and of his and his aides’ ever-shifting explanations, and has been quick to blame his staff, according to several people who have spoken with him.

“Privately, Trump has lashed out at the communications office — led by press secretary Sean Spicer and communications director Michael Dubke — and has spoken candidly with some advisers about a broad shake-up that could include demotions or dismissals. The president personally has conducted post-mortem interviews with some aides about the Comey saga, investigating the unending stream of headlines he considers unfairly negative, according to several White House officials, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because Trump is cracking down on unauthorized leaks.”

Axios: Trump’s inner circle is getting smaller.

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Laughable, laughable.

james said...

Here is a question...

What would the "collusion" between the Russian Hackers and Trump campaign actually look like?

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Like my 7:19 AM post above, for starters.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

opie said...

CH said.....

That, in my mind... is keeping his promise. I really don't give a rat's ass if there is or isn't a physical wall ever built

As a trump sycophant....your statement is full of it. Seems to me with your argument of crossings down so significantly, a wall is as full of shit as you are. And for the stats of MN....a mere drop in the bucket that prove nothing but bias on your part.


BTW, spam by the pedo seems to be the only thing loretta ever says. Maybe you should lecture her as to the stupidity of her existence here. LOL

Loretta Russo said...

Maybe the pedophile should stop spamming every thread.

caliphate4vr said...

Oops: The New York Times Accidentally Exposed 'The Hillary Clinton-Russia Nexus'!

rrb said...


Loretta Russo said...
"Here is a question...

What would the "collusion" between the Russian Hackers and Trump campaign actually look like?"
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it would look like this:


Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. “The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations,” the memorandum stated. “These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign.”

Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.

First he offered to visit Moscow. “The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA.” Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.

Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. “A direct appeal … to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. … If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. … The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.”

Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time–and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.

Kennedy’s motives? “Like other rational people,” the memorandum explained, “[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations.” But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy’s motives.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html

rrb said...



When “the big lie” of Russian collusion is repeated by influential Democrats, doubt is cast and suspicions are raised against President Donald Trump, even without actual evidence. Then, Trump’s approval ratings are expected to fall, ensuring greater erosion of Republican support for the president’s agenda — an agenda that threatens the progressive project that was designed to ensure continued Democratic dominance.

- VDH nails it again

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/13/scholar-unravels-the-big-lie-surrounding-the-tump-campaign-and-russian-collusion-video/

opie said...

caliphate4vr said...
Oops: The New York Times Accidentally Exposed 'The Hillary Clinton-Russia Nexus'!

What you proved is that an opinion piece speculated that trump had connections also which appear more compelling than the clinton allegation. Brilliant post from IBD, a right leaning publication you believe.