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Friday, May 19, 2017

Unintended consequences...


Lots of stories and speculations about the possible effects of the ongoing FBI investigation now being taken over by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. A good portion of them may NOT actually work out so well for those interested in scoring political points.

The first problem is that the Democrats can no longer "call" for anything. They cannot legitimately call for an independent prosecutor now that one is assigned. They cannot respectfully call for impeachment now that their allegations are under investigation. As it pertains to their "allegations" the only true politically legitimate play is to wait for the investigation to conclude. Doesn't mean that some will not continue to beat the "impeachment drums" - it's just that most Americans will be more content to wait till the investigation has been completed.  More to the point, playing that card  may backfire (which is why Democratic leadership is encouraging rank and file to back off).


The second problem is that they can no longer demand that the Administration is trying to hide anything, or otherwise hampering any investigations. By appointing a special counsel the Administration has done "more" than necessary to make sure there is full accounting of what took place. Compared to the previous administration (who found no conflict of interest in investigating their own candidate for President in house) - many will see this as a refreshing change. 

Furthermore, the congressional investigations may for all practical purposes be coming to an abrupt halt (if not complete end). By all accounts, they were running out of things to "investigate" as it was, and were down to subpoenaing witnesses to testify. The first (General Flynn) has refused. Now that he is also under investigation by the Special Prosecutor, his attorneys have legitimate claim to refuse to testify before Congress. It's likely that the other players in the mix (Manafort, Stone, and Page) will likely also refuse for the exact same reasons. Since members of both Parties and in both Houses have all admitted that they have found no evidence so far of any collusion, the chances to make political points with these investigations seems long gone. 

Unlike Patrick Fitzgerald, it doesn't appear the Robert Mueller is the sort of person who would grandstand and attempt to continuously work his way into the news cycle. Since there really hasn't been any "leaks" coming from the FBI investigation to date, it's unlikely that leaks will "begin" now that Mueller is in charge. We literally may not get any substantial news from this investigation for months.

Lastly, the Administration now has ample reason to deflect any and all questions regarding anything to do with the Russian probe, collusion, Comey, or pretty much anything else that has happened to date. Look for a bunch of "we cannot comment on that" (because there is an ongoing FBI investigation) in response to these sorts of questions. This will likely frustrate many in the media who seem interested in almost nothing else.

It actually begs the question? Were the Democrats and the media "really" interested in an objective investigation into their allegations, that left their own shouting at the moon out of the equation? Be careful what you wish for...


105 comments:

rrb said...



no matter what the topic - idiotic legislation, foreign policy, economic policy, etc., if it's enacted by liberals one thing is certain -

the law of unintended consequences always rears its ugly head and bites them in the ass.

wphamilton said...

CH "The first problem is that the Democrats can no longer "call" for anything. They cannot legitimately call for an independent prosecutor now that one is assigned. "

Yeh, those fools! Now that they have an independent investigation, they can't keep calling for one, such an ignominious defeat eh CH?

What's the next big blunder, losing the chance to complain about Trump by impeaching him? Don't clue them in CH, that succeeding in something is really a defeat. They might see the light and stop getting what they want.

James said...

Ha ha ha.

opie said...

OOPS.... the kimchi is getting really stinky......


BREAKING NEWS
White House adviser close to Trump is a person of interest in Russia probe
Investigation into Russian meddling reaches highest level of government
The law enforcement investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign has identified a current White House official as a significant person of interest, according to people familiar with the matter, who would not further identify the official.
By Devlin Barrett and Matt Zapotosky

C.H. Truth said...

BREAKING NEWS

WaPo sources claim that an adviser close to Elvis has revealed that Bigfoot is a person of interest in the latest Russian Probe.

By idiot 1 and idiot 2

opie said...


WaPo sources claim that an adviser close to Elvis has revealed that Bigfoot is a person of interest in the latest Russian Probe.

And a worm ate your homework. LOL. Getting rather desperate aren't we, CH. My guess is that I am going to shove this post up your ass. I will be patient and let the story unfold, unlike you.

opie said...

Amazing how quiet the sycophants are with the turmoil going on in DC. The only thing offered so far about the WaPost was CH trying to make light of a desperate situation. Imagine if Obama was under scrutiny like this....there would be cries to lock him up and thousands of posts demanding his head. All I get is CH comparing the post revelation to big foot....Impressive commentary for someone as lucid and smart as CH. BTW.....this is trolling, seeing what stupidity will come forward from you losers.

Loretta Russo said...

"WaPo sources claim that an adviser close to Elvis has revealed that Bigfoot is a person of interest in the latest Russian Probe.

By idiot 1 and idiot 2"

That's exactly where we are today.

Loretta Russo said...

An anonymous source is a source, of course, of course.

And no one can talk to a source of course. That is, of course, unless the source is leaking to the famous NYT or WaPo.

KD, Beaners eat dust said...

Unemployment Falls to 28-Year Low"

The Lost Years are being erased by the New Normal of Trumpnomics, JOBS.


This is way cool, the interlopers are afraid of President Trump. Good to have a real President in the WHITE House.


by AWR Hawkins 19 May 2017

Illegal aliens in San Francisco have reportedly begun abstaining from food stamps in the belief it will help them avoid being detecting by the Trump administration.
In fact, so many residents have turned against food stamps that “the city is concerned.”

KD, Lower Unemployment Winning = Paychecks said...

Amazing how quiet the sycophants are with the turmoil going on in DC." The Chief Idiot of the Feckless Five (Alky-Jane-WP-Opium-Indy).


Liberals believe America is DC.

Hillary got her asshole Tunneled by Joe Biden, it was perfect.

KD, Plan Parent Hood closes murder clinics - si said...

I warned this blogs Feckless Five of this very issue three days ago.


"“No one ought to, in my view, rush to embrace the most extraordinary remedy that involves the removal of the president from office,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the sober-minded senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. He warned that Democrats should not let their actions

“be perceived as an effort to nullify the election by other means.”


Of course it is, you all started on the morning of Nov 9th, when you saw the pussy licker and two baby aborter Hillary Clinton loss.

Other Good News ---- Planned Parenthood is closing murder clinics, reason given, well, selling baby parts is not fetching the same money as it did before they were exposed.

james said...

“When I ran for office, I said he is a chaos candidate and would be a chaos president. Unfortunately, so far chaos organizes the presidency right now.”
— Jeb Bush, in an interview with CNN.

james said...

Trump Told Russians Firing Comey Relieved ‘Pressure’

President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the FBI Director James Comey had relieved “great pressure” on him, the New York Times reports.

Said Trump: “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
He added: “I’m not under investigation.”

“The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives.”

james said...

Said Trump: “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”
He added: “I’m not under investigation.”

He is now.

james said...

Russia Probe Now Includes Possible Cover Up

“Investigators into Russian meddling in the U.S. presidential elections are now also probing whether White House officials have engaged in a cover-up, according to members of Congress who were briefed Friday by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein,” McClatchy reports.

Roger Amick said...

Lastly, the Administration now has ample reason to deflect any and all questions regarding anything to do with the Russian probe, collusion,

I don't think they can avoid a subpoena if it does not involve secret information. If they make the claim stick, it could be in closed testimony.

As usual, you take the Republican side. I would bet any amount if similar charges were made against the Clinton administration you would be dancing the two step to say they would not have a legitimate reason to avoid testifying.

And Jams is right, one of the items the special prosecuting director can and is making the investigation into possible Russian involvement in the last election.

A Grand Jury is an unbelievably powerful body. A grand jury is making a grand jury investigation into Michael Flynn. Fifth amendment guarantees that make you testify against your self are not extended to a Grand Jury testimony. You may be imprisoned if you refuse to testify for contempt of court.

Roger Amick said...

The #celehritypresident and his staff made a bad tactical position by refusing to cooperate. This is a criminal investigation, because the President Apprentice resisted any legitimate questions on he possibility of Russian hacking of our election.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - I am talking about questions from the media. The media will have to come up with other things to question the press secretary about. You know, the economy, immigration, tax cuts, etc...

Any questions about "leaks, investigations, etc..." will be brushed aside.

Perhaps it will mean the end of press conferences, as I am pretty sure the press doesn't want to talk about anything they didn't manufacture themselves.

Roger Amick said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.

“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official.

“I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

As of ten minutes ago, the White House has not denied this interchange.

Indy Voter said...

Even if Spicey and the communications team tries ducking questions, Trump won't. Heck, Trump will go on a tweet storm if someone makes an unflattering comment about him.

Roger Amick said...

The second problem is that they can no longer demand that the Administration is trying to hide anything, or otherwise hampering any investigations. By appointing a special counsel the Administration has done "more" than necessary to make sure there is full accounting of what took place. Compared to the previous administration (who found no conflict of interest in investigating their own candidate for President in house) - many will see this as a refreshing change.


Do you really believe this? The DOJ did not make a political decision; The White House was informed and had no choice. he DOJ has legal abilities beyond the power of the President. "They" if you mean us ignorant and gullible liberals had no control either.

If you opened your ears and hear he silence of support from the congressional Republicans.

Roger Amick said...

Indy, I expect the first tweet storm will be in response to his favorite New York newspaper, the Post. Here is the link and some CP

http://nypost.com/2017/05/18/bob-mueller-is-the-right-man-for-the-job/

The Right Man for the Job.

President Trump is wrong to be furious that Bob Mueller has been named the special counsel to oversee the FBI’s probe of Russian meddling in US politics: You couldn’t ask for a better man to do what’s needed — and no more.

The great risk of any independent counsel is that he’ll “go rogue,” stretching out the probe to unrelated issues until he finds some scalp to collect. But people who’ve known Mueller for decades confirm that he’s well aware that would be the opposite of justice.
SEE ALSO
Trump calls Russia probe 'single greatest witch hunt' in US history
Trump calls Russia probe 'single greatest witch hunt' in US history

He’s also 72, at the end of a life of stellar service to both Republican and Democratic presidents. He has zero desire to taint that by suddenly playing political games now.

His record also shows that his offices don’t leak. And it’s endless drip-drip of minor tidbits that’s kept this investigation in the headlines — along with the president’s over-the-top reactions to that news.

------------------
Mueller led the FBI for 12 years; he knows how to keep it focused on its job and out of politics. He also knows the bureau’s own reputation is at stake here, after a year of brutal partisan controversy over the Clinton e-mail probe.

Advice that Trump will be unable to do. He is too compulsive and yes, childish.

Roger Amick said...

In the last few weeks, I have become deeply amused by our host's willingness to support the man he did not vote for. I haven't seen even subtle digs at Trump.

Indy Voter said...

He did write a comment about enabling toddlers. I don't believe he realized the irony of it, though.

Roger Amick said...

I have been stewing, thinking about this, and also, yeah, enjoying my 1.821 days without a drink.

But to this: Your basic

A good portion of them may NOT actually work out so well for those interested in scoring political points.

The first problem is that the Democrats can no longer "call" for anything. They cannot legitimately call for an independent prosecutor now that one is assigned. They cannot respectfully call for impeachment now that their allegations are under investigation. As it pertains to their "allegations" the only true politically legitimate play is to wait for the investigation to conclude. Doesn't mean that some will not continue to beat the "impeachment drums" - it's just that most Americans will be more content to wait till the investigation has been completed. More to the point, playing that card may backfire (which is why Democratic leadership is encouraging rank and file to back off).
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This is being run by one of the most intelligent I have seen in public law. Although he could have avoided serving in Vietnam, like the President did. The Democrats got exactly what they wanted Nancy Pelosi is no body's fool She knows that this will run for 12 months or more. Paul Ryan said that they are continuing on tax "reform" aka trickle down economics, a multi failed policy, since 1980. Without a President with enough power to influence reluctant Republicans, and a two vote margin in the Senate, he won't get much of anything. The obsessive President who can't stop tweeting. yet that he has to be prepared at a very high level and it does not appear to have backed down as his staff tried to get himself to reconsider their advice. Impeachment may be in the future, but even without it, he's not going to be useful.

As I have noted, the subpoena power and grand jury mechanism, he's going to be powerlis, unless he really wasn't in the cahoots with Putin and he cooperates with the research. But he wont. The broken Washington will not get fixed. The DNC has raised $20 million in he last quarter, at an $18 average constituion. He could avoid disaster but he's not capable of doing that. Good by RNC by 2021

Roger Amick said...

LOL, Irony is far beyond this man who is supposedly more intelligent than Obama. Or Clinton. Or you.

Commonsense said...

I for one would enjoy the irony of those liberals who now praise Mueller if his first indictment (there will be indictments as their must be witches) turns out to be Huma Abedin.

This is low-hanging fruit as she has obviously violated the espionage act.

And it's well within his authority to investigate.

opie said...

Finally, light at the end of the tunnel....R's waking up!!!!!

Among Republicans, 23 percent expressed disapproval of Trump in the latest poll, up from 16 percent in the same poll last week. The decline in support from Republicans appears to be a primary reason why Trump's overall approval rating is now at the lowest level since he took office.


The beginning of the end???

opie said...

turns out to be Huma Abedin.

So... She's not POTUS or anything that matters. Maybe she can share a cell with Anthony.....

Commonsense said...

Speaking of irony, How is it that the hated "anti-Muslim" president got a far warmer welcome in Saudi Arabia (home of Islam) than the previous "pro-Muslim" president?

Anyone? Beullier? Beullier?

opie said...

Anyone? Beullier? Beullier?

Your opinion, ferris.....

Commonsense said...

This morning King Abdullah personally greeted Trump as he exited Air Force 1.

When Obama visited last year the king didn't stir from his palace.

By all accounts Trump's welcome was far warmer than the chilly reception Obama got last year.

And that's not an opinion.

Commonsense said...

Oh, and the plane was called Air Force 1 because President Trump was aboard.

And you didn't need super-secret x-ray goggles to know that.

James said...

He gets a warm welcome among the Saudis because dictators like dictators. Previously he was saying that Islam hates us and that the Saudis treat their women horribly.

But all that can be forgiven as long as he takes an anti Iran stance and serves as their patsy.

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

James said...

Trump Told Russians Firing Comey Relieved ‘Pressure’

President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the FBI Director James Comey had relieved “great pressure” on him, the New York Times reports.

Said Trump: “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

TRUMP: But of course that's not the reason I fired him. No, not at all. As I said earlier, I did it because of what he did regarding Clinton many, many months earlier. Yesh, that's it. Because of that. Not because of any pressure from Russia.

REPORTER: Mr. President, you just this moment contradicted what you just said.

TRUMP: Fake news! Fake news! No previous President has been treated as badly by the media!
_____________

“The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — THE DAY AFTER he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives.”

Fake news!

opie said...

By all accounts Trump's welcome was far warmer than the chilly reception Obama got last year.

And that's not an opinion.

And that is opinion, asshole...Your explanation of AF 1 is for dummies like rat hole and the injun. Maybe you should look at a profile of the 747 used as AF 1 and you might learn to differentiate the unique configuration that plane has. No, to friggin lazy to bother. Typical of trump sycophants....

James said...

Russians Saw Flynn As a Way to Influence Trump

Trump Wants to End Obama Subsidies

Politicalwire.com

opie said...

The hypocrisy of both the donnie and our menstral child..

YADH, Saudi Arabia — Melania Trump's decision not to wear a headscarf upon arrival in the Middle East is drawing attention on social media.

The first lady wore a black pantsuit with a golden belt but did not cover her head, consistent with custom for female foreign dignitaries visiting Saudi Arabia.

President Donald Trump had criticized former first lady Michelle Obama for not wearing a head scarf during a January 2015 visit to the nation with then-President Barack Obama.

Trump said in a 2015 tweet that, while many people applauded Mrs. Obama's decision, the people of Saudi Arabia "were insulted."

Yep...she insults the whole population while donnie gets fellated by the king.. Gotta love idiots like our cultist. Asshole

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

James said...

Rouhani's wide margin electoral victory is another indication that Obama's policies are correct, as the majority of the Iranian electorate see.

Iranian women are delighted, the progressive ones.

Loretta Russo said...

"By all accounts Trump's welcome was far warmer than the chilly reception Obama got last year.

And that's not an opinion."

This is a big deal for the Saudis. Finally someone who isn't afraid to stand up to Iran, and will.

Same with Jordan, Egypt and Israel...

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

James said...

“The Trump administration is becoming an international laughingstock.”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/19/trump-middle-east-trip-saudi-arabia-215163

James said...

The young of Iran have wanted change for a long time. They are beginning to get it with Rouhani.

This election victory is seen as continuity with Obama's progressive agenda and a rejection of the Iranian hard liners.

And a rejection of Trumpism.

James said...

More Numb Than Panicked

Jonathan Swan: “Most WH officials I’ve spoken to privately this week are closer to being numb than panicked. Those who went through the campaign with Trump are numb to the crises and thought so many times before that this would be the one to break Trump. They’ve been wrong so many times before — the vast majority of Trump campaign staff, no matter their public posturing, thought Clinton would crush him.

“They view their boss as completely undisciplined and self-destructive. They’re exasperated by him … They’re sick and tired of the media feeding frenzy. But even in their most frustrated moments, they’ll admit that Trump has got some special resilience that they can’t begin to understand. A coat of protection that almost seems supernatural to them.”
______________

It's taking the American electorate a while to realize that racism and anti-Obamism have placed Joe the Plumber in the White House. But the electorate will finally figure that out (you can't fool all the people all the time) and get tired of him and his ignorant, ridiculous, and dangerous bloviating.

opie said...


Loretta the twat obsessively posted the following spam... IOW's added nothing but making her feel big.
Spam by the pedo
May 20, 2017 at 7:27 AM
Loretta Russo said...
"WaPo sources claim that an adviser close to Elvis has revealed that Bigfoot is a person of interest in the latest Russian Probe.
By idiot 1 and idiot 2"
That's exactly where we are today.
May 19, 2017 at 4:18 PM
Blogger Loretta Russo said...
An anonymous source is a source, of course, of course.
And no one can talk to a source of course. That is, of course, unless the source is leaking to the famous NYT or WaPo.
May 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM
May 20, 2017 at 8:07 AM
Blogger Loretta Russo said...
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May 20, 2017 at 8:08 AM
Loretta Russo said...
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May 20, 2017 at 8:12 AM

rrb said...




GREAT AGAIN: Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king


http://www.theamericanmirror.com/great-unlike-obama-trump-doesnt-bow-saudi-king/

rrb said...


The young of Iran have wanted change for a long time. They are beginning to get it with Rouhani.


This election victory is seen as continuity with Obama's progressive agenda and a rejection of the Iranian hard liners.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

i'm old enough to remember when the young in iran protested for change as a young woman was shot dead live on cnn, and 0linsky did...






nothing.

the progressive agenda - always accomplishing zero as totalitarian dictators murder their own people.




rrb said...



schumer protege in deep shit:


Weiner, 52, pleaded guilty in Federal District Court in lower Manhattan to one charge of transferring obscene material to a minor. Under a plea agreement, prosecutors asked he serve 21 to 27 months behind bars. He must also register as a sex offender.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/anthony-weiner-plead-guilty-sexting-case-teen-sources-n762036


this sick fuck had more to do with hillary's defeat than the russians ever did.

James said...

Wonder why the young of Iran favor Obama.

James said...

Monday: In an Oval Office meeting with the Russian Foreign Minister and Russian ambassador to the United States — that the American press couldn't enter, but Russian press did — POTUS bragged about intel from a foreign pal on a key ISIS source. The pal was Israel, which Trump visits in 2 days. They weren't happy. But the [Trump team's] explanation should make you feel better: POTUS' disclosure was "wholly appropriate" because he wasn't aware of where the information came from! FEEL BETTER? HA HA HA

Tuesday: The news that POTUS asked Comey back in February about "letting Flynn go" blew up every happy hour in Trumpland. Things went downhill quickly. Some Democrats started throwing around the word "impeachment." Even John McCain made a "Watergate" comparison! And given the news of Comey's fastidious paper trail, there could be even more bad weeks ahead. UH OH.

Wednesday: Right at 6 PM, maybe the biggest news of the week: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had appointed former FBI Director Bob Mueller as special counsel on the Russia investigation. No one saw it coming — not even the White House, which apparently only got an hour's notice. And why not drop another at 10 PM? Michael Flynn told the transition team back in January that he was under FBI investigation for undisclosed lobbying for Turkey — and he still got hired to be the gatekeeper for the Trumpland's national security decisions! THE OLE ONE TWO.

Thursday: After months of repeatedly denying any communications between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, news came of at least 18 previously undisclosed contacts, involving Flynn and other officials. After such a crazy week, this one almost seemed tame. But don't worry — you're fully authorized to make contact with Trumpland each and every Saturday.

Friday: The week has to end just like POTUS' meal — with two scoops. First: POTUS told Russian officials in the Oval Office that Comey was a "nut job" and that firing him had "taken off" great pressure because of the Russia investigation. Second: a senior White House official is under scrutiny as "a significant person of interest" in the Russia investigation, so, uh, it definitely looks like the pressure is still on in Trumpland. ANOTHER OLE ONE TWO.

rrb said...



"Mr. Trump’s longtime foes, especially Democrats and progressives, are in the throes of a kind of obsessive delight. Every new blunder, every suggestion of an illegality, gives them pleasure. “He’ll be gone by autumn.”

But he was duly and legally elected by tens of millions of Americans who had legitimate reasons to support him, who knew they were throwing the long ball, and who, polls suggest, continue to support him. They believe the press is trying to kill him. “He’s new, not a politician, give him a chance.”

What would it do to them, what would it say to them, to have him brusquely removed by his enemies after so little time? Would it tell them democracy is a con, the swamp always wins, you nobodies can make your little choices but we’re in control? What will that do to their faith in our institutions, in democracy itself?"

- peggy noonan



funny. wp referred to this as "melodrama."

yet it's the high profile people, not the little nobodies, who are noticing and commenting on what is happening and why.


Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

rrb said...

Wonder why the young of Iran favor Obama.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


i wonder why i see no one other than you making the claim.

James said...

I had an aunt and uncle who defended Nixon while he was getting on the helicopter. Nobody else was.

Loretta Russo said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Loretta Russo said...

"nothing.

the progressive agenda - always accomplishing zero as totalitarian dictators murder their own people."

But, but, but the Cairo speech!

Loretta Russo said...

"i wonder why i see no one other than you making the claim."

He's not only a pedophile, he's a damn liar.

opie said...

Blogger Loretta Russo said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LO

Feel better, twat?????

OPIE said...

- peggy noonan

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

Loretta Russo said...

Sure fatty.

opie said...

RAT HOLE said


Unlike Obama, Trump doesn’t bow to Saudi king

No, he just blows him......LOL

opie said...

Loretta Russo said...
Sure fatty.
Feel better, slut?????

Loretta Russo said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

rrb said...


i fully expect the saudi's to be kissing trump's ass BIGLY.

OPEC is shitting their collective mumu's over their incredibly shrinking oil wealth and influence.

Loretta Russo said...

Iran's saying to themselves: oh shit

opie said...

Loretta Russo said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Feel better cunt??????

opie said...

OPEC is shitting their collective mum's over their incredibly shrinking oil wealth and influence.

If you only had a brain...the russki's are the greatest loser as the price of oil falls. The only things the saudi's influence is financing terrorism. So having less $ is a good thing, doncha think rat hole??????

Loretta Russo said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

wphamilton said...

A conspiracy to "overturning the vote" and "reverse the election" is melodrama. Trump was elected President - everyone except a smattering of snowflakes and Hollywoo imbeciles realized and accepted that. There is no anti-Democratic push going on. All of Trump's real troubles arise from Trump's on mistakes, and if you're honest you'll realize that there is nothing really surprising about one stupid mistake after another. It's Donald Trump, what did you expect??

You elected Trump to poke a finger in the eye of the Washington political establishment, and you might as well be honest about that. It's a worthy goal, we need more of it. But how bad does the rest of it have to get?

Commonsense said...

He gets a warm welcome among the Saudis because dictators

The Saudi king is not a dictator. He's the legitimate ruler of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

It's a monarchy, not a dictatorship.

And Donald Trump is the President of the United States, a constitutional republic.

Your ignorance is as colossal as your pettiness.

Commonsense said...

A conspiracy to "overturning the vote" and "reverse the election" is melodrama. Trump was elected President - everyone except a smattering of snowflakes and Hollywoo imbeciles realized and accepted that. There is no anti-Democratic push going on.

You should tell that to Ross Douthat and the New York Times.

They're not exactly a smattering of snowflakes and Hollywood imbeciles.

Commonsense said...

Yep...she insults the whole population while donnie gets fellated by the king.. Gotta love idiots like our cultist. Asshole

Surprisingly enough none of them live on Saudi Arabia.

Queen Noor of Jordan usually doesn't wear a hijab at state functions.

Condoleezza Rice didn't wear one either.

It is a matter of custom more the a religious dictate.

Loretta Russo said...

He's not very smart, CS.

caliphate4vr said...

Yep...she insults the whole population while donnie gets fellated by the king.. Gotta love idiots like our cultist. Asshole


No, he just blows him......LOL



Fatty and his his homoeroticism again. Truly odd

wphamilton said...

Holding the President accountable is not threatening Democracy nor overturning an election.

Sometimes, you guys are as bad as the snowflakes about denying reality.

opie said...

Califat the obsessive said...
Fatty and his his homoeroticism again. Truly odd

Truly remarkable latent obsessive behavior at my insults....Like loretta's pedo spam, must make you feel real big. Idiot....LOL

opie said...

menstral the cultist posted....

Queen Noor of Jordan usually doesn't wear a hijab at state functions.

Condoleezza Rice didn't wear one either.

And they didn't have trumpie posting hypocrisy like the following as I posted earlier .Yer an idiot !!!!!

Donnie the Trumpet....1-26-2015
“Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted. We have enuf enemies,” the business man-turned-politician tweeted during the
Obamas’ visit.

james said...

cs kindly points out that-----

Queen Noor of Jordan usually doesn't wear a hijab at state functions.
Condoleezza Rice didn't wear one either.
It is a matter of custom more the a religious dictate.

Now CS will agree that Trump's saying that M. Obama "insulted" the Arabs by not wearing one is stupid.

Loretta Russo said...

"Holding the President accountable is not threatening Democracy nor overturning an election."

Lies, propaganda and obvious biased journalism is more than a small threat to our Republic.

We can start anywhere you'd like.

Surely you would agree.

james said...

politicalwire.com

Loretta Russo said...

" agencies
10:35AM GMT 28 Jan 2015
First Lady draws criticism for not wearing headscarf in highly conservative country

In a show of solidarity with Saudi Arabia, President Barack Obama cut short his visit to India and led a parade of American dignitaries in Riyadh on Tuesday to pay respects after King Abdullah's death.

But it was the presence - and attire - of his wife Michelle which drew the most attention in the ultraconservative desert kingdom.

The First Lady dressed conservatively in black trousers and a long jacket, wearing loose clothing that fully covered her arms, but did not cover her head.

It is forbidden for Saudi women to appear in public without their heads covered, and most Saudi women wear niqabs.

Hundreds of Saudis took to Twitter using hashtags translating to “#Michelle_Obama_Immodest” and "#Michelle_Obama_NotVeiled” to voice their disapproval of her decision not to observe Saudi customs.

According to the Washington Post, more than 1,500 tweets were written on Tuesday using the hashtag, most expressing their disapproval."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/michelle-obama/11373787/Michelle-Obama-causes-outrage-in-Saudi-Arabia-by-not-wearing-headscarf.html

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

james said...

King Salman, shook Melania’s hand shortly after leaving the President’s private jet. Many Saudi officials refused to shake her hand.

Oh gosh. They were insulted. How terrible of Melania. Why did Trump allow her to inflict such an insult?

;-)

Commonsense said...

Leave it to James to take up the cause of Islamic extremism without knowing or caring.

He's what Lenin use to call a "useful idiot".

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta Russo said...

"He's what Lenin use to call a "useful idiot"."

I just call him stupid.

James said...

Saudi Arabian democracy
Saudi Arabia is a non democratic country in many ways: 1. The king rules over the country. 2. No elections are held in this country.

Yet CS thinks the Saudis are democratic.

Loretta Russo said...

Stupid pedo.

James said...

Saudi Arabia is not an electoral democracy. The 1992 Basic Law declares that the Koran and the Sunna (the guidance set by the deeds and sayings of the prophet Muhammad) are the country’s constitution. The cabinet, which is appointed by the king, passes legislation that becomes law once ratified by royal decree. The king also appoints a 150-member Majlis al-Shura (Consultative Council) every four years, though it serves only in an advisory capacity. Limited elections for advisory councils at the municipal level were introduced in 2005, and the second round of elections was held in September 2011. In addition to the advisory councils, the monarchy has a tradition of consulting with select members of Saudi society, but the process is not equally open to all citizens. Political parties are forbidden, and organized political opposition exists only outside the country.

James said...

Women are not treated as equal members of society, and many laws discriminate against them. They are not permitted to vote in municipal elections, drive cars, or travel within or outside of the country without a male relative. According to interpretations of Sharia in Saudi Arabia, daughters generally receive half the inheritance awarded to their brothers, and the testimony of one man is equal to that of two women. Moreover, Saudi women seeking access to the courts must be represented by a male. The religious police enforce a strict policy of gender segregation and often harass women, using physical punishment to ensure that they meet conservative standards of dress in public.

Commonsense said...

Yet CS thinks the Saudis are democratic.

Well James, either you're totally challenged in reading for comprehension.

Or you are ignorant of the meaning of the word "monarchy".

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta Russo said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta Russo said...

"Well James, either you're totally challenged in reading for comprehension."

He's a liar.

Period.

KD, Winning Jobs for American First said...

President Trump unlike the trained money the just left the office has not bowed to anyone on his trip abroad.

$350 billion dollars in new deals for the people of the US, good JOBS, factory JOBS.

KD said...

Jane , upon review of your post you contradict yourself many times, are you sure you know what your talking about?

Self-inflicted wounds.

Where is Hillary?, is she with her female lovers, Warren and Mrs. Wiener, are they pussy eating each other again?

KD, Class back in Style said...

They were insulted. How terrible of Melania. Why did Trump allow her to inflict such an insult?" Jane making up shit like Demstream press.


Unlike the classes whore Moochelle, Mrs. Trump was not at all insulted, she is not so petty.

opie said...

GF KD made up....

. Why did Trump allow her to inflict such an insult?"

Because he's a bigger asshole than you. BTW....trump broke michelle's chops in a tweet for not wearing a scarf in 2015, which I have posted previously. Just like donnie, your hypocrisy knows no bounds.. Idiot

opie said...

KD, the goat fucking liar said....
President Trump unlike the trained money the just left the office has not bowed to anyone on his trip abroad.


During a ceremony on Saturday Saudi Arabia King Salman presented President Donald Trump with the King Abdulaziz al Saud Collar, the kingdom's highest civilian honor, and people are really concerned whether or not the president bowed in appreciation.

SEE ALSO: Melania, Ivanka Trump forgo headscarfs during Saudi Arabia trip

"Appears Trump really bowed down. Is this Making America Great Again?," tweeted one user after video surfaced that appears to show Trump bowing slightly to the Saudi King after having the gold medalin placed around his neck.

Many were quick to point out that conservative media, including President Trump himself, criticized former President Barack Obama for bowing to the Saudi King during a foreign trip in 2009.

Caught again, goat fucker. Just make shit up, and plant a tomato hill and liberally apply goat shit......Asshole

KD said...

Opie, do try to get better at following the thread, you just self inflicted a gun shot wound to your head, funny to watch, thanks.

opie said...

KD the goat fucker said...
Opie, do try to get better at following the thread, you just self inflicted a gun shot wound to your head, funny to watch, thanks.

I guess someone else named KD posted what I copied and attribute to you. You can't even keep your own stupidity straight. Color me surprised, asshole. Keep looking stupid, you do it so well.