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Friday, June 23, 2017

FBI - no credibility?

So this is what the FBI found out about James Hodgkinson (the Steve Scalise shooter):

  • legally purchased a rifle in March 2003 and 9 mm handgun “in November 2016,”
  • modified the rifle at some point to accept a detachable magazine and replaced the original stock with a folding stock,
  • rented a storage facility to hide hundreds of rounds of ammunition and additional rifle components,
  • was reported for doing target practice outside his home in recent months before moving to Alexandria,
  • had mapped out a trip to the DC area,
  • and took photos at high-profile Washington locations, including the east front plaza of the U.S. Capitol and the Dirksen Senate Office.
  • took multiple photos of the baseball field he would later shoot up, three days after the New York Times mentioned that Republicans practiced baseball at an Alexandria baseball field with little security,
  • lived out of his van at the YMCA directly next door to the baseball field he shot up,
  • routinely raged against Republicans in online forums,
  • had a piece of paper bearing the names of six members of Congress,
  • asked “Is this the Republican or Democrat baseball team?” before firing on the Republicans,
  • ran a Google search for information on the “2017 Republican Convention” hours before the shooting,

And they still conclude that they could not come up with any motive for the attacks. Just a down on his luck guy, who just randomly happened upon a baseball field, and spontaneously shot up the place because he had anger control problems that had absolutely nothing to do with his politics, and certainly had nothing to do with who was on the field itself.  This from the same crackpot organization that has investigated Russian collusion with the Trump campaign for nearly a year, without uncovering any evidence of anything. 

Regardless of what Political Party you affiliate with, you have to see the negative effects of having a major investigative arm of the Government appear to be blatantly politically partisan. I believe anyone associated with this report should be fired on the spot.

59 comments:

opie said...

LOL at you again, CH!! Your conversion to a nonthinking sycophant is now complete. Trump tweets, you bow to the false Idol. Motive, mental derangement. Very difficult to stop. LOL Maybe with your giant intellect and prescience, you should be director and save the country from people like you. Or maybe you can post on that MS ruling giving the bigots the right to deny service to gay couples, like I predicted and you support. LOLOLOL

Roger Amick said...

Meaningless. No cameras in White House Press briefings. Medicare is dead. It is cut to provide tax cuts for the rich. Republican income redistribution. But you are very good at following the party line. No more cold hearted analysist anymore. Just support for the president as long as he's in office. You have lost it.

James said...

Ch wants to fire the FBI, which he describes as a "crackpot organization."

Roger Amick said...

Correction Medicaid. Hurry up and die.

Roger Amick said...

James our esteemed host and completely lost it. I don't understand why he fell into the Trump dump. But he is swimming right in that swamp. And he's happy. The Coldheartedtruth is dead.

James said...

FBI: "[The shooter] took multiple photos of the baseball field he would later shoot up, three days after the New York Times mentioned that Republicans practiced baseball at an Alexandria baseball field with little security..."

I thought Trump promised he'd protect us.

James said...

Trump: "You're fired!"
Trump's disciple Chtruth: "Fire the FBI!"

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

Loretta said...

Obnoxious James Boswell trolling

Loretta said...

You'll always have the hospice blog.

C.H. Truth said...

Hmmm...

So Roger, Opie, and James.... all believe that Hodgkinison was just a down on his luck guy with an anger control issues who happened to randomly pass by a baseball diamond and shoot it up, without any idea who was on it?

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Of course, the fact that none of the address the subject, and jump straight to ad hominen attacks on me is an indication of how things are these days with your typical Democrat.

The only thing they see is unadulterated hate. I feel bad for them. Must suck living in such emotional turmoil all the time

Commonsense said...

Did the FBI hire Baghdad Bob?

opie said...

all believe that Hodgkinison was just a down

I don't think he was a well man. Maybe a background check would have found his subversive activities and prevented this nut job from buying a gun !! You on the other hand once again speak for me, which is all you now have. Try again, your inner voice of bigotry is coming out. LOL

Commonsense said...

The only thing they see is unadulterated hate. I feel bad for them. Must suck living in such emotional turmoil all the time

When you have no power and no argument, the only thing left is impotent hate.

C.H. Truth said...

It's a simple question Opie.

The facts as laid out seem fairly obvious that the man "was not" well and that he did, in fact, have a target and a plan... and that the target and plan was to shoot Republican Congressmen...

But the FBI says the opposite. That there was no predetermination. That there was no specific target. That the act was a spur of the moment decision based on a lack of anger management.


So the simple question Opie:

Do you believe that the FBI got this right?

Or do you agree with me that they got it obviously wrong?

James said...

Ch, please give us the exact wording of the FBI report that says what you say it says. I mean, all they are doing is presenting facts. But you say they present an interpretation of those facts with which you disagree. So try to pull yourself together and give us THEIR actual wording in which they say what you claim they say.

We can wait.

Roger Amick said...

If this was true,you would have a point. You are the only partisan.


Regardless of what Political Party you affiliate with, you have to see the negative effects of having a major investigative arm of the Government appear to be blatantly politically partisan. I believe anyone associated with this report should be fired on the spot.

Trump is great!

Roger Amick said...

Thousands of people have deep hatred for many reasons. You bogus clam is that the FBI deliberately ignored the warning signs.

You are drowning in the swap.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - Nobody is suggesting that the FBI ignored warning signs.

The issue is how the FBI is reporting the shooting:

Here are some quotes from the FBI:

- “At this point in the investigation, it appears more spontaneous”
- “The FBI does not believe that these photographs represented surveillance of intended targets,”
- “He was running out of money. He was not employed at the time of the event, and he was looking for some local employment. He was married for 30 years, and it appears that that marriage was not going so well. It was just a pattern of life where you could tell things were not going well.”


Here is how the press conference was covered by the AP

"At a news conference on Wednesday, FBI officials gave an overview of the evidence they’ve gathered on Hodgkinson. They said he acted alone and had no connections to terror groups. But they said they had not yet clarified who, if anyone, he planned to target. It wasn’t even clear whether he had prior plans to attack the baseball practice or whether he just happened upon it the morning of June 14, said Tim Slater, who leads the criminal division of the FBI’s Washington field office."


Bottom line: The FBI is refusing to say this was motivated by Political hatred. They are passing this off as a troubled man, spontaneous attack, with no clear intention of any specific targets.

That is a giant pile of steaming shit, Roger...

If calling it what it is makes me a partisan in your eyes... then that is your fucking issue, not mine.

James said...

My, when Ch gets worked up he uses intemperate language.

FBI: The FBI said Hodgkinson frequently criticized Republicans on social media, but the posts "appear to be First Amendment-protected speech." Hodgkinson's posts did not include "threats or references to Members of Congress or the Congressional baseball game."
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Objective facts. I guess Ch thinks they should have found threats and references where there were none.

To state facts is not to defend the shooter.

Commonsense said...

Objective fact: First amendment protected speech can still be a motive for murder.

The amendment is irrelevant to finding motive.

As I alluded to earlier, the FBI saying that can't fine a "motive" as a denial equal to the time Baghdad Bob was saying the Iraq was beating America when American tanks were less than one block away from him.

KD, Funny looking dragqueens said...

Jane puts makeup on Emotionally and economically bankrupt Alky.


"Medicaid. Hurry up and die." Alky


We can always count on the two crossdressers to go all drama queen

C.H. Truth said...

Well James...

I guess you can just go on believing this was a spontaneous attack by a guy with anger management issues who didn't even know who he was shooting, much less targeted them.

and I will go on believing that you are as dumb as you seem.

KD, LOL @ Jane as she puts on Alky's makeup said...

LOL @ the Three Stooges,


Jane, did you mail your letter to the ACLU YET?
Did you post a copy of said letter here, YET?

What are you waiting on sissy, you thru your hissy fit, you made your claims, you issued your threats, don't tell us now it was all just chickenhawk squawking.

I want Polosi/Warren/Hillary and the other ladies on the left like Schumer to continue to bitch about how unfair it is that the US Population keeps voting Republican and they keep shrinking as a party.

They ran this nation into 24 Trillion dollars in debt and now they dare to ask about freaking cost? OH LORDIE.

caliphate4vr said...

BOOM!

C.H. Truth said...

http://dilbert.com/

New one today...

James said...

Well James...
I guess you can just go on believing this was a spontaneous attack by a guy with anger management issues who didn't even know who he was shooting, much less targeted them.
and I will go on believing that you are as dumb as you seem.
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Well, Ch...
I can't go on believing that because, unlike you, that is not what I see in the FBI reporting of it.

So I guess I will just go on believing you are as biased as you seem.

("In the dump for Trump," as Roger characterized you.)

Commonsense said...

I can't go on believing that because, unlike you, that is not what I see in the FBI reporting of it.

Yeah, you're seeing what Baghdad Bob saw. Do you really wonder why nobody treats you seriously?

james's dad said...

"Hodgkinson also visited the office of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, whose campaign he had worked on as a volunteer, and was in email contact with the two Democratic senators from his home state."

"The FBI’s briefing appears so contrary to the facts as to be insulting. When a man with a history of hating Republicans cases a location, takes pictures, verifies the targets are Republicans before opening fire, has a list of Republican politicians in his pocket, and shoots and nearly kills Republicans, it’s hard to swallow the FBI’s contention that the shooting was “spontaneous” with “no target.” The agency should reconsider whether it wants to troll Americans about something this serious."

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NOTHING HERE FOLKS, KEEP MOVING.... sorry to need to school you son

KD, Hillary The Grandmother of #ResistWEmuch 0-4 said...

GA 6,,, how did that go for ya, oh yeah, big victory, you only lost by 5 percent.

That is the life of the mentally ill left.

In real life tell your boss you lost the bid for a multi-million dollar job, but, tell him, look boss I DID SO GOOD I ONLY LOST OUT BY 5 %.

Yep, that will get you that promotion raise in pay and greater perks.

James said...

If the FBI report were as one-sided as you Trumpeters want to characterize it, everyone would be condemning it.

James said...

Headline at politicalwire.com
CIA CAPTURES PUTIN'S INSTUCTIONS TO HELP ELECT TRUMP

Better start going after the CIA now, Ch.
They are obviously biased and just made that up.

james's dad said...


ONLY A FUCKING IDIOT WOULD BELIEVE THAT

never mind, it's james from his spam site


ROFLMFAO !!!

KD, Kill this President is Hillary's #Resistance Message said...

LOL, Ever since around 3 am on the morning of Nov. 9th, 2016 the leftist that post here have become very funny people, funny in that they think they are right.

Yet, election, after election well you know.

They are proven wrong, their shift has been from hate speech to attempted assignation to countless beheadings, strangulation or shooting at gun point the sitting President.

John Deep, the president must be killed rant is priceless.

Keep going leftist Hollywierdo's , please keep it up, and when the President is assassinated, then you and your kind have to pay the price, both with you serving time in Federal Prison and your wealth being taken away.

C.H. Truth said...

If the FBI report were as one-sided as you Trumpeters want to characterize it, everyone would be condemning it.

In other words...

James cannot take a stand on this issue, till Jame's get his talking points from those who do his thinking for him...

KD, Why did Obama fail to defend the US Election of 2016 said...

Jane, the so called Putin instructions were sent to Obama in August, Obama dropped the ball on defending the US Elections , why?

Did he hate Hillary that much?


Roger Amick said...

I agree we should cut down on themselves. Insults

Loretta

Roger Amick said...

Bottom line: The FBI is refusing to say this was motivated by Political hatred. They are passing this off as a troubled man, spontaneous attack, with no clear intention of any specific targets.

That is a giant pile of steaming shit, Roger...

Moving the partisanship of away apart. I don't understand your lot your logic and coming to understanding that this is a failure of judgment. I would have been pure assumption to say of was motivated by hatred because we can't read the man that man's mind. You're putting something into that that is your logic but that doesn't necessarily match with what was really in that crazy man's head. To deny that he was nuts will be crazy but he is nuts he was not but to say it was intentionally because he was a republican probably but it would have to be an assumption and that's something I don't know if it anything wrong with that tell you the truth I just not doesn't make sense to me to get mad at him over the simple stuff like that it doesn't make any sense it does not

Loretta said...

I agree James Boswell should quit spamming every thread, Roger.

If he isn't smart enough to have his own opinion, he should get lost, Roger.

Commonsense said...

His social media postings provided plenty of evidence of the hate in his mind.

I'll tell you what. If I had an an investigator who ignored all the evidence and came to the exact polar opposite conclusion that the evidence lead to then I would fire him.

The FBI's briefing was bizarre and incomprehensible.

Loretta said...

Bottom line based on comments from the bitter clingers....

"Too bad he didn't kill a bunch of Republicans"

Commonsense said...

I agree we should cut down on themselves. Insults

You might also want to tell Boswell to can it with the empty threats and bullying.

Nobody is impressed and they are just a waste of space.

Loretta said...

Troll.

Loretta said...

"Correction Medicaid. Hurry up and die."

You don't have to hurry, linger as long as you want.

James said...

Kicked out of a Methodist church? Loretta said
"Boswell should quit spamming every thread"
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LOl Actually, this thread has VERY little "spam" from me.
I have for the most part expressed opinions and questioned assumptions.

But since Cowardly cowardly hid behind my "dad"
to make his little cowardly statement at 11:01
(using profanity my dad would never use)
I think we should ask whether anyone WILL believe this:
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CIA Captured Putin’s Instructions to Help Elect Trump

“Early last August, an envelope with extraordinary handling restrictions arrived at the White House. Sent by courier from the CIA, it carried ‘eyes only’ instructions that its contents be shown to just four people: President Barack Obama and three senior aides,” the Washington Post reports.

“Inside was an intelligence bombshell… The intelligence captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation’s audacious objectives — defeat or at least damage the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton, and help elect her opponent, Donald Trump.”
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!!! I'm sure that was just made up by the
Washington Post, a complete lie with no substance in fact at all.

Not even worth investigating...
Still...

Roger Amick said...

Bad news for rrb.

My physical therapist today said she had never seen anybody make this advance in such a short period of time you're wonderful. I will not be fully mobile in three weeks but six months I should be at better than ever.

It's only three weeks from today that I got the new liver. The people of this rehab have never seen anybody Advance this quickly. Most of it is because my attitude is as I'm going to survive and push through this and just to be there I got lucky I'm going to take advantage of it and I'm not going to throw it away. Good news is a good news for it for anybody except for him I had to laugh at that that was kind of mean I know. This is the microphone sometimes it's a little goofy anyhow I'll be off and on I got 2 more treatments today and gym and and all kind of stuff so who knows talk to you later

Roger Amick said...

You would not believe how many pills I have to take a day this morning I have to take about 18 at once no almost duplicate hat again later throughout the day wow

cowardly james said...


So cowardly james makes more spam while admitting to spam. as if everyone here doesn't know

FUCKING SPAM JAMES

ROFLMFAO !!!

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - The facts are the facts.

He had a history of making statements on public forums regarding his hate of Republicans. He had a list of Republican names. He scoped out where Republicans practiced for their softball team. He drove to D.C. where he had mapped out the field. He camped out for several days by the field. Ran google searches to view pictures of Republicans just hours before he went to the field....

and he specifically ASKED SOMEONE if the people practicing was the Republican softball team BEFORE he shot them up.

And the conclusion we are supposed to accept is that this was a random spontaneous act, and not specifically aimed at shooting anyone in particular?


Do I need to remind you that you push a Russian Collusion story that actually has "no" direct evidence and not even a partial fraction of the evidence there is that this guy was there to shoot up Republicans?

KD, Schumer KNEW PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED and SAID NOTHING said...

Obama admits he knew everything about the Russian attempted hacking to influence the US ELECTION and OBAMA DID NOTHING.

So with that known as a fact, will the liberals care?

Answer - Nope, Obama can do no wrong in their crossdressing makeup wearing eyes.

IN the Real World.


President Trump delivered to all us VETS, yep, Putting America First means Putting our VETS first, He signed into law better treatment of our vets.

Liberals and UNIONS HATE, this law, hate it, tried to stop it.

KD, Pres Trump Taking Care of the US VETS, you rock President said...

Commonsense said...
His social media postings provided "


CS, they don't want the facts, they want their emotions to be right, they are always so freaking wrong.

Remember the delight and cheering Alky did the morning of Nov. 9th as he followed his economic light, Paul Krugman in cheering the dow dropping in pre market trading by 600 points, well, I hope Medicaid sucking Roger and Paul the Dunce of economics acted full on shorting the market.

I bough in bigly and have been winning for my family Hugely.


Roger Amick said...

Bad news for rrb.

My physical therapist today said she had never seen anybody make this advance in such a short period of time you're wonderful. I will not be fully mobile in three weeks but six months I should be at better than ever.

It's only three weeks from today that I got the new liver. The people of this rehab have never seen anybody Advance this quickly. Most of it is because my attitude is as I'm going to survive and push through this and just to be there I got lucky I'm going to take advantage of it and I'm not going to throw it away. Good news is a good news for it for anybody except for him I had to laugh at that that was kind of mean I know. This is the microphone sometimes it's a little goofy anyhow I'll be off and on I got 2 more treatments today and gym and and all kind of stuff so who knows talk to you later

Commonsense said...

They say repeating yourself is the first stage of Alzheimer's.

opie said...

d a history of making statements on public forums regarding his hate of Republicans

And still was able to get guns. Pretty smart if you say so yourself. LOL.

KD, Alky got a new liver at the cost of many said...

Thanks for paying for my transplant!” Roger Krugman March 23, 2017


Bilking the US Tax Payers, you long ago used every dime you and your mail order illegal bride ever put into the system. It is parasites like you that willfully damage your organs and then feed upon the wealth of others.

You admitted that you are a very poor financial person, IF Not for the hammock of this society you and your wife would be where you belong out on the streets in the gutter, begging for food .

opie said...

They say repeating yourself is the first stage of Alzheimer

What's your excuse?????

opie said...

It is parasites like you that willfully damage your organs and then feed upon the wealth of others.

Dayum funny coming from a person with such superior genes that you won't get sick. Seems to me your genetic mix left a few crucial pieces out of your brain like logic. LOL, idiot.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Bad news for rrb.
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geezus alky, you're fucking dense.

for the last time -

you can live to be 100 or drop dead at your keyboard tomorrow. it matter's not to me. i don't have a nickle invested in either outcome.

btw, don't break your arm patting yourself on the back there, little man.

wphamilton said...

When something looks completely ridiculous, so outrageous that no thinking person could accept it, my policy is to look for the rest of the story. What are the missing facts in this picture, what has been misrepresented, what has been slipped in that is dubious? Where are the assumptions that aren't necessarily justified?

Because no matter how smart we are, or think we are, something that seems obvious to us isn't missed by other people, certainly not by everyone, and not by the professionals directly involved. There is, in my experience, always more to the story which is never quite as outrageous as it may seem.