Friday, June 2, 2017

Picture worth a 1000 words...

Current Secretary of State                   Former Secretary of State

133 comments:

wphamilton said...

Kerry is actually a pretty good cyclist and rides a racing bike. I'd have a hard time keeping up with him.

And I kind of like that he has enough self-confidence to ride a girl's pink cruiser bicycle - it's just his politics that leave me cold. Tillerson on the other hand looks stiff and a little frightened. This comparison isn't coming off the way you probably hoped ... especially if someone is familiar with Kerry's motorcycles at every campaign stop ...

opie said...

I guess you have to be a fossil fuel harley rider to worthy of CH's obsession with manly men. The current secretary also wanted to remain in Paris, but caved with some mealy word statement about policies. Yeah, he's a real flip flopper and bent to the will of the donnie and gave up before a single shot was fired. LOL

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Kerry sure is right on global warming.
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Oh for the days when our President Obama
was a statesman and not just a politician.

Today our President Trump
is just a politician and not a statesman.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Politicalwire.com: Quote of the Day

"Donald Trump doesn’t know anything about policy. Donald Trump doesn’t know anything about politics. Donald Trump doesn’t know anything about anything. He can get up and give a good speech. You listen to him talk about any topic and he wanders from sentence to sentence to sentence. So Steve Bannon is now the President of the United States. And that was more clear yesterday than ever before.”
— “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough, quoted by Mediaite.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

White House Tells Agencies to Ignore Democrats

The White House is telling federal agencies to blow off Democratic lawmakers’ oversight requests, as Republicans fear the information could be weaponized against President Trump,” Politico reports.

“At meetings with top officials for various government departments this spring, Uttam Dhillon, a White House lawyer, told agencies not to cooperate with such requests from Democrats.

“It appears to be a formalization of a practice that had already taken hold, as Democrats have complained that their oversight letters requesting information from agencies have gone unanswered since January, and the Trump administration has not yet explained the rationale.”
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Here's their rationale: We have a President who wants to run this country the way Putin runs Russia.

Myballs said...

I think wp is seeing what he wants to see. Rex looked great to all the Rolling thunder bikers last week.

Loretta said...
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

"...Democrats have complained that their oversight letters requesting information from agencies have gone unanswered since January, and the Trump administration has not yet explained the rationale.”
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Here's their rationale: We have a President who wants to run this country the way Putin runs Russia.

C.H. Truth said...

The picture is from a story about how Tillerson recently took off on his own attended a motorcycle rally and hung out with a bunch of bikers...

They contrasted that with Kerry in his racing gear biking down the road with about 20 people in tow as security detail. He looked almost as cool as when he windsurfs!


Btw.... only one of the two SOSs ran into a curb and ended up on bedrest in the hospital. Yeah, WP... it the "cool bicyclist".

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Now respond to my 10:48.

cowardly king obama said...


OK

Take your cut-and-pastes and stick them where the sun don't shine.

Do you not have a single functioning brain cell ?


ROFLMFAO at you !!!!

Loretta said...
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cowardly king obama said...


Oh and in case it hasn't sunk in yet, it's PRESIDENT TRUMP,
finally a real US leader after the failed Obama disaster.

MAGA is going full bore.., how's that Obama pen working for you now?

ROFLMFAO !!!

Loretta said...

James is a white Jeremiah Wright, both are Marxists anti-Semites.

Loretta said...

*Marxist

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

In other words, you cannot respond to what I cite at 10:48.
That means that you cannot refute my own conclusion:

"Here's their rationale: We have a President who wants to run this country the way Putin runs Russia."

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wphamilton said...

By coincidence, plus or minus a few months from when Kerry had that accident, I had been riding down Windward, hit the 3-inch deep rut we had then alongside the gutter, and crashed trying to hop out. I didn't realize I'd snapped a clavicle until I tried to pull the tire off the rim.

I was going 25-30 mph, about Kerry's speed, and there was an aggressive sedan tail-gating me not a bunch of Secret Service types, but it was similar enough with Kerry's accident that I have just about zero sympathy with your mocking of it.

I've also ridden about 100,000 miles on motorcycles, BITD, and I wouldn't be riding anywhere close to Tillerman judging from that picture. It's judgment based on experience, not whatever it is that you weekend warriors are suggesting.

Loretta said...

All of that from a picture.....

Ok

C.H. Truth said...

speaking of pictures, Loretta? That's not you on your profile is it?

Loretta said...

I'll look

Loretta said...

It won't let me in

C.H. Truth said...

It seems to be a picture of somebody's significant other... or maybe it is you, and now we know your true identity? So wonder you seem to have it in for certain people?

wphamilton said...

"All of that from a picture....."

The little left-hand wave, low right in front of his face like he's afraid to unbalance himself with a normal motion, knees wide like a beginner, stiff neck barely turning his head and to me his shoulders look tense.

I don't know what's up with Kerry, the bike is 4 sizes small but the seat and bars raised to almost fit his height, makes me think it is deliberate not just a bike he happened to hop on. But I'd ride it just to spite the snobs.

james said...

LOL "Loretta's" picture would scare mice from the house. This woman, however, is lovely.

Loretta said...

NO! I'm NOT with him.

Loretta said...

What do you ride?

C.H. Truth said...

The difference is just a difference, WP...

Take it however you want to take it. You either like the motorcycle or the cyclist or neither or both.

You are the one who seems to be mocking Tillerson as poor motorcycle rider, based on your opinion that he appears "stiff" while riding.

Tillerson was participating in a Memorial Day motorcycle ride that pays tribute to Vets and POWs... which of course is certainly fair fodder for your mocking. Who would do such a thing!

Loretta said...
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Loretta said...

"Tillerson was participating in a Memorial Day motorcycle ride that pays tribute to Vets"

They love him and Trump.

C.H. Truth said...

Personally I own a "Hondamatic" 400CC "giant moped" for all practical purposes. It's a motorcycle from the 70s that looks like your average everyday CB Honda from that time period... only it has an automatic transmission like a moped would. (no clutch or shifting). You idle like a car.

The transmission is large, making it look like a bigger bike (CB700 or so)... and because of the weight the 400CC is not enough to really provide much punch.

It goes from 0-60 in about the same time my car probably does, and you don't want to take it out on the interstate and try to do 70.

It currently sits in my shed and doesn't run. I keep thinking I should get it running again some day.

wphamilton said...

I USED to ride a '76 KZ-1000, 950 BMW, Honda XR-500, miscellaneous dirt bikes, and the last one a Honda CB400 street bike. After I totaled that last at 65 mph (brakes failed) I haven't been on one - either psychological or I just never got around to getting another.

wphamilton said...

Went out solo and hung out with a bunch of bikers like you said earlier, or rolled in a Memorial Day parade?

I didn't put either one up as paragon of manliness, tough guy on a bike. Anything a guy rides is fine in my book. I'm mocking your comparisons, not those two.

james said...

LOL
I changed it so the right people would know, [mission accomplished] and now it won't let me change it back.
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She has a screw loose. "Right people" LOL.
Would know what? That I have a wife as lovely as Ch's? Oh how dreadful!

Loretta said...

"I keep thinking I should get it running again some day."

Sometimes wives aren't wild about riding. I'm not anymore.

Mr R has a streetfighter, (or something like that).

I don't go with him very much anymore, it's not very comfortable imo.

It's not as safe as it once was, but he loves it and after three tours in VN, and almost 40 years active, he can ride if he wants.

Loretta said...

"After I totaled that last at 65 mph (brakes failed) I haven't been on one - either psychological or I just never got around to getting another."

Good Lord.

wphamilton said...

"Good Lord." - yeah, or "angel" that was how most people explained it after, when I was standing there without a scratch. Literally. I'm not made of iron either, I couldn't really explain it. I was in my 30's, kept thinking I want another bike but I never got one.

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C.H. Truth said...

My wife used to ride a sports bike (crotch rocket) - hit some grease and wiped out once... got back on and rode it home. Like me, she hasn't ridden in some time and probably won't any time soon. Nothing to do with the accident, just comes a time...

wphamilton said...

I wouldn't argue with that, at all. The ironic thing is that in this area, my 5000-6000 miles per year on a bicycle are more dangerous than they would be, for me, on a motorcycle. Either way tempting fate is not on my agenda.

Loretta said...

Yep

Loretta said...

Got it.

Caliphate4vr said...

Yeah I'm thinking McGinnis nor Windward are much fun WP

wphamilton said...

Windward is OK now after they resurfaced it, and drivers more or less used to seeing me there. If rush hour I'm passing dozens of cars anyway so it's not like I'm slowing them down or getting run over from behind. I take it over to Westside Pkwy now and again which is much more pleasant, McGinnis not so much.

caliphate4vr said...

I take Deerfield to get home Westside to get to Avalon

james said...

Trump to decide whether to block Comey testimony - White House adviser

LOL I hope he does,

President Donald Trump will decide whether to invoke his presidential powers to block former FBI Director James Comey from giving congressional testimony next week, White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway said on Friday.
Comey, fired by Trump last month, is due to testify on Thursday before the Senate Intelligence Committee in both an open session and behind closed doors. The hearings could add to problems facing the president over probes into alleged Russian meddling in last year's U.S. election and potential collusion by his campaign.

In an interview with ABC News, Conway appeared to indicate that the president would allow Comey to testify, saying, "We'll be watching with the rest of the world when Director Comey testifies."

But asked directly whether Trump would use executive privilege to prevent Comey from speaking with lawmakers, Conway added: "The president will make that decision."

Legal experts say Trump could invoke a doctrine called executive privilege to try to stop Comey from testifying. But such a maneuver would likely draw a backlash and could be challenged in court, they said.

Trump fired Comey on May 9, prompting a political firestorm and accusations by critics that he was improperly seeking to hinder an FBI probe into Russia's role in the election and potential collusion by Trump's campaign.

Comey is expected to be asked by the Senate panel about conversations in which the president is reported to have pressured him to drop a related FBI investigation into Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, whose ties to Russia are under scrutiny.

The Justice Department and several U.S. congressional committees are investigating the Russia matter. The Russian government has denied U.S. intelligence agencies' conclusion that it sought to influence the election in Trump's favor, but Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that some Russian individuals may have acted on their own. Trump, who has raised doubts about the U.S. agencies' findings, has denied any collusion.

wphamilton said...

Deerfield is pretty nice also, good for some extra hills LOL. It's not really on the way to anything though, which I guess keeps the traffic down.

Loretta said...

Boswell just has to be the center of attention.

Typical pedophile.

Loretta said...

WP, do you ride to and from work daily?

james said...

Bloomberg Leads Effort to Bypass Feds on Climate Deal

Former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg “is organizing an effort by governors, mayors, business leaders and other private citizens to make sure that Americans play an active role in the Paris Agreement — with or without the federal government,” Yahoo News reports.

Said Bloomberg: “Americans are not walking away from the Paris Climate Agreement. Just the opposite — we are forging ahead. Mayors, governors, and business leaders from both political parties are signing onto a statement of support that we will submit to the UN — and together, we will reach the emission reduction goals the U.S. made in Paris in 2015.”

“If successful, this will be the first time U.S. citizens, local and state officials circumvented the federal government to negotiate an agreement with the United Nations.”
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This may go down as the stupidest thing Trump did -- among many.

wphamilton said...

Can Trump legitimately invoke Executive Privilege when Comey doesn't work for him? It seems to me that he might block certain questions regarding his meeting with Trump, but not everything Comey might be asked, about FBI business. Comey's notes, for example, and what he meant by them, might not be reasonably blocked.

wphamilton said...

Blogger Loretta said... WP, do you ride to and from work daily?

Yep, 1,518 days in my current job, so far. I've got 77 times driving in during that time frame. (there's a website that keeps track for me).

Loretta said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta said...

That'll keep you young and healthy.

wphamilton said...

James you know how that's going to go, don't you, with the cities and States efforts to combat climate change.

It will be like "fighting crime" and "economic development" of "decaying" inner cities. Symbolic efforts and lip service, where real measures are lower priority than budgets or hotter buttons to push. It might as well be the back-burner.

On the bright side it's not like Trump can flip a switch and suddenly no more Paris Accord. And for sure, this is not the end of the line for international accord on climate.

james said...

Re: 3:03 And if Comey is officially blocked from testifying, would that prevent Comey from speaking to the press? Has Trump already revoked freedom of speech for our citizenry a la Putin?

wphamilton said...

Loretta, young and healthy, plus I'm saving the world one ride at a time, plus look at all that money I'm saving, plus I get to leach by using the road without paying road taxes (just kidding), not to mention the Librul political statement ... but to be honest, and why not be honest here, I'm mainly having fun.

james said...

There is strong support in the business sector, too, Wp. This seems like it has legs. Lots of anti Trump people may flock to it. Could be part of the wave that some say is coming.

opie said...

They contrasted that with Kerry in his racing gear biking down the road with about 20 people in tow as security detail. He looked almost as cool as when he windsurfs!

Or you could contrast it with trump who put his fat ass in a golf cart while the rest of the G7 took a stroll in Italy...That sure looked cool to me CH.

KD said...

Some sissy man-boy asked Sec of Defense Maddog what keeps him up at night?

A, Nothing

I keep my enemy up at night.



A liberal will never understand this kind of man, but, they well be protected by this kind of man .

cowardly king obama said...

"This seems like it has legs"

this is the fucking stupidest thing ever posted on this blog.


Oh, it's james trying to think for himself.

ROFLMFAO !!!

KD said...

"where do I get me a hunt'n license" Loser Kerry

Commonsense said...

I'm somewhat amused at how hysterical liberals are when Trumps abandons an agreement that is nothing more than a pledge to "endeavor to persevere".

What is going to happen to the agreement?

Well once a year elitist bureaucrats will get together at some resort location and do a lot of drinking and whoring and give reports on the challenges of climate change in their countries.

There will be a lot of words spoken that will boiled down to one sentence; "No progress in halting climate change".

Mind you that haven't done a damn thing but nobody expected them to in the first place.

This would have happen whether the US was part of the agreement or not. The only difference is the US was not willing to foot the bill for the party.

C.H. Truth said...

Can Trump legitimately invoke Executive Privilege when Comey doesn't work for him?

Executive privilege allows (in theory) for any conversation that the President has with cabinet or other officials to be considered private.

So I guess any conversations that took place between Trump and Comey "after" Comey no longer worked for him would not qualify. But the information traded between the two of them as it pertains to them being the President and the FBI director would qualify for executive privilege.

Not that it "legally" matters one way or the other. As Dershowitz and others have argued, the President has the legal authority to prevent or put an end to any investigation.

or so goes the argument...

Secondly, the Ken Starr precedent is that the Special Counsel doesn't have authority to charge a sitting President, as that it a function of the Congress to impeach and hold trial.

So as a matter of "politics" what Comey might say will hold influence. As a matter of tangible reality... The Democrats would need to win the House to actually impeach him, and they you still need to convince 67 Senators to vote to remove him from office.

It's not a matter of winning an argument or a preponderance of evidence. It's a matter of fundamental politics as well as your age old standard of "reasonable doubt".

With people like Dershowitz making a valid argument about executive authority, even if you believed that Trump was trying to "influence" Comey to drop an investigation... it would be pretty easy for GOP congressional people to vote against impeachment or removal.

Loretta said...

"but to be honest, and why not be honest here, I'm mainly having fun"

Now you're talking!

Loretta said...

LOL

KD, President Trump FLipped off the Globalist said...

US Jobs number was good, the unemployment number was really good.

wphamilton said...

Not that it "legally" matters one way or the other. As Dershowitz and others have argued, the President has the legal authority to prevent or put an end to any investigation.

I thought we were talking about the Congressional Inquiry? And the possibility of Executive Privilege blocking Comey testimony. Trump has no authority to stop the inquiry, and maybe not Comey either, so I'm not sure where you're going with that.

opie said...

and maybe not Comey either, so I'm not sure where you're going with that.

Bingo.....Comey is a private citizen and if I am not mistaken, out of the reach of executive privilege. Could be a very interesting hearing next week, especially if donnie tries to shut down Comey. JMHO

Commonsense said...

Wrong, Comey is still bound by executive privilege for all communications while he was director.

If Trump invokes executive privilege for those communications then he can't testify to them or be compelled to do so.

opie said...

Wrong,

Wanna bet, menstral child.

opie said...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-factbox-idUSKBN18T1OB


Unlikely that trump would prevail menstral. He could try, but that would really be another blunder to add to everything else he has done.

KD, Lowest in 16 years, nice job Pres Trump said...

Hillary Blamed Debbie WasaMANshutlz and Obama for her Loss to President Trump.

The Crybaby Tour 2017,,, rolls on, cough , cough.


Meanwhile in the real world, unemployment hit a 16 year low, erasing the Lost Years is easy peasy.

Commonsense said...

Trump could very well cite executive privilege to protect an ongoing investigation.

And he wouldn't suffer any legal or political consequences other than the squawking from the usual suspects.

Commonsense said...

GA-06 special election still a dead heat with 18 days to go

Cali has a better feel for this district than anybody here but from first glance this looks like a poll design to make Ossoff look stronger than he is.

When you look at the demographic breakdown Ossoff has a big lead in groups that have low election turnouts (young-people and African Americans) while Handel enjoys an Overwhelming lead in groups the habitually vote (whites and seniors).

It's another race where the Democrats dumped a ton of money and the media a ton of hype to get Ossoff over the top. If they lose they're 0 for 3.

Commonsense said...

Use to live in that district 20 years ago and it was a solid GOP district.

caliphate4vr said...

I think Handel carries, she's won big here twice running for Sec State and her try for Gov,

Besides, she actually lives in the district....

WP, I believe, is in this district as well

But lord have the donks been pouring money in here, to get pajama boy over the top

caliphate4vr said...

Not sure where you used to live CS, but it ain't the 6th from 20 years ago. As I explained to Roger frequently it isn't Newts old district that was west and north Cobb County to the AL border.

It's a little Dekalb, North Fulton and East Cobb now

Commonsense said...

West Roswell, about a mile from the Cobb County line.

Commonsense said...

Landmark Harvard essay: The preborn child is a constitutional person

He proceeds to explain that layman’s dictionaries treated the concepts of humanity and personhood interchangeably, and so did legal terminology — more explicitly so, in fact. As we’ve discussed in the past, Craddock notes that Blackstone expressly recognized that personhood and the right to life existed before birth with a simple and clear legal standard: “where life can be shown to exist, legal personhood exists” (emphasis added). This also perfectly explains why it’s irrelevant that past laws didn’t protect the preborn prior to quickening.

Craddock next shows that many of the states that voted to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment had also criminalized abortion, meaning they understood personhood then in much the same way that pro-lifers understand it now:

By the time of the Fourteenth Amendment’s adoption, “nearly every state had criminal legislation proscribing abortion,” and most of these statutes were classified among “offenses against the person.” The original public meaning of the term “person” thus incontestably included prenatal life. Indeed, “there can be no doubt whatsoever that the word ‘person’ referred to the fetus.” In twenty‐three states and six territories, laws referred to the preborn individual as a “child.” Is it reasonable to presume that these legislatures would have used this terminology if “they had not considered the fetus to be a ‘person’”?

The adoption of strict anti‐abortion measures in the mid‐nineteenth century was the natural development of a long common‐law history proscribing abortion. Beginning in the mid‐thirteenth century, the common law codified abortion as homicide as soon as the child came to life (animation) and appeared recognizably human (formation), which occurred approximately 40 days after fertilization. Lord Coke later cited the “formed and animated standard,” rearticulating it as “quick with childe.”


I don't think it will influence the likes of Ginsberg, Sotomayor, or Kagan but a Kennedy or Gorsuch may reference it. Anyway it will make for lively oral argument.

caliphate4vr said...

West Roswell, about a mile from the Cobb County line.

Then you were definitely in it.

caliphate4vr said...

And if you haven't been back in while, downtown Roswell is happening

C.H. Truth said...

Where am I going with this, WP? I think the question is where are "they" going with it?

I am just pointing out that this Comey testimony is more political than anything else. Regardless of what he says, it won't bring us any closer to any actual charges being brought against anyone... certainly not against Trump.

1) Trump cannot be charged as a sitting President. He would have to be impeached (and then found guilty). Which in 2017 is more political than legal.
2) Trump's legal defense is that he has executive rights to direct the FBI director, and therefor cannot be legally obstructing anything... at least no more than Lynch could be deemed to be "obstructing" justice by cutting deals and not allowing the FBI to question main targets of investigations under oath. Or perhaps Comey himself who decided that he knew what "all reasonable" prosecutors would do... and didn't allow Clinton to go before a grand jury for possible indictment?

Reality is that people in charge get to make these decisions... The President is the ultimate person in charge, and gets to make certain calls. Now if he was caught lying under oath, or trying to direct people to lie under oath, or tried to destroy evidence, or whatever... that would be seen as obstruction. But simply telling an FBI director to investigate or not... would be within his authority (at least according to several constitutional legal experts).

Commonsense said...

20 years ago it was a sleepy and rustic town square. We had our offices in an old frame building off Atlanta St.

I remember it has lot's of antique shops.

caliphate4vr said...

It's boutique restaurants in many of the old houses and a night life that's awesome and cheap Uber home. 😎

I trail run occasionally by the Old Mill, they've incorporated a lot of green space. Townhouse will run you north of $500k

It'll be hopping tonight but I've gotta smoke a couple Boston butts way early tomorrow.

It'll be an early night for me.

james said...

But simply telling an FBI director to investigate or not... would be within his authority (at least according to several constitutional legal experts).
June 2, 2017 at 6:19 PM


He didn't tell him to investigate or not. He told him not to investigate.
Then fired him for not caving in, but pursuing what he felt justice demanded.

Seems impeachable to me.

james said...

Trump Search for FBI Chief Seen as Chaotic

President Trump “is still looking for a new FBI director more than three weeks after he fired James Comey, and sources familiar with the recruiting process say it has been chaotic and that job interviews led by Trump have been brief,” Reuters reports.

“Three close associates of three contenders for the job, all of whom have been interviewed by Trump, said the candidates were summoned to the White House for 10- to 20-minute conversations with Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Those conversations, which followed initial interviews at the Justice Department, have been light on questions about substantive issues facing the agency.”

BRIEF? I GUESS IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO LONG TO ASK "WILL YOU BE LOYAL??

C.H. Truth said...

Seems impeachable to me.

Should I believe you James?

Or Constitutional Law scholars like Alan Dershowitz?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

He didn't tell him to investigate or not. He told him not to investigate.

Then fired him for not caving in, but pursuing what he felt justice demanded.

Seems impeachable to me.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Executive privilege allows (in theory) for any conversation that the President has with cabinet or other officials to be considered private.
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Why did Nixon have to turn over tapes, Ch?

Commonsense said...

Well James if you are going by that standard than Obama should have been impeached for his unconstitutional usurpation of Congressional powers.

In fact there is much more of a legal basis to impeach Obama than there is for Trump.

But impeachment is a political decision and the impeachment and removal of a sitting president requires the consent of the a vast majority of Americans.

Otherwise, it would be correctly viewed as a coup against the legitimately elected president of the United States.

opie said...

Should I believe you James?

Or Constitutional Law scholars like Alan Dershowitz?

Once again CH cherry picks his argument. Dersh. left enough caveats in that interview to drive a train through. Nice try and tell me why, a statistician with a huge bias should be believed. LOL

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Why did Nixon have to turn over tapes?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

...the impeachment and removal of a sitting president requires the consent of the a vast majority of Americans.
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Trump is working away on that.

Commonsense said...

You think so?

You need to get out more.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Everybody thinks so. :-)

Commonsense said...

The jokes on you.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Just now on NPR a commentator who seems to know what he was talking about pointed out that Comey is now a private citizen and that Trump would have to pressure Senate leadership to shut down the testimony, and that would set off all kinds of alarm bells and controversy.

The same commentator, when asked if this could be important, said that it possibly could be.
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My own observation, as I said before: Even if Trump were able to shut down the Senate testimony, what would prevent private citizen Comey from going before the press?

Commonsense said...

Obviously neither you nor the NPR commentator has ever heard of confidentiality and non-disclosures agreements.

Nor the espionage act.

Every federal worker has a duty to keep classified and confidential information confidential.

As any retired federal worker can tell you. You are bound by that duty even after you leave the government.

opie said...

You are bound by that duty even after you leave the government.

And you base your opinion on anecdotal experience or employment as a garbage picker?

Are you disputing comey is a private citizen who no longer has obligation to keep conversations he had under wraps????? I did post that reuters piece yesterday describing how trump boy would have a very difficult time keeping comey's words out of the record since he has declared publicly he was the one who fired him and breeched his own problems with so many public statements. Gonna be fun watching you squirm after the testimony

Commonsense said...

Comey is a private citizen.

He has an obligation to keep his FBI work related conversations under wraps.

Commonsense said...

However, it looks like Trump is not going to claim executive privilege so the point would be moot.

Loretta said...

Donald Sachtleben, former FBI agent, was a private citizen when he leaked information. He's now in prison.

Anonymous said...



Just now on NPR a commentator who seems to know what he was talking about
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ladies and gentlemen, your howler of the day.



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Comey could always say that he cannot answer questions that involve classified information. It has been said that he probably will avoid saying too much about the ongoing Russia investigation.

Trump would like to pull a Putin, but he can't.

Commonsense said...

Then you agree he does have an obligation.

caliphate4vr said...


Just now on NPR a commentator who seems to know what he was talking about
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ladies and gentlemen, your howler of the day.




It's unbelievable someone would write something that stupid

Commonsense said...

Since it's James, it's not that unbelievable.

Anonymous said...


It's unbelievable someone would write something that stupid
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i'm convinced that the alky, the pederast, and the pie hole exist on this blog to constantly explore the deepest and darkest depths of stupidity.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL The guest commentator on NPR, whose name I did not get, sounded well informed.
Call down. The hearing itself will tell us whether what he and I have said
is accurate. Take a deep breath. Don't panic. Don't despair. Calm yourselves.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL
This is not what I heard, but (ahem) it says what I have said earlier:
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NPR June 2, 2017 --
Did James Comey Lie About Interference In The Russia Investigation?

Fired FBI Director James Comey may tell the Senate Intelligence Committee next week that President Trump suggested he ease off at least part of the FBI's Russia investigation.

But a month ago, he said this to the Senate Judiciary Committee: "I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience."

Why did Comey say he has never been asked to stop an investigation for political reasons after that conversation with Trump?

Some writers on the Internet, particularly Comey critics, have a couple of simple explanations — the memos are fake or he perjured himself in front of Congress.

But there's more context. Here is the full exchange from the Judiciary Committee hearing, when Comey was being questioned by Sen. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii.
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HIRONO: So IF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR SENIOR OFFICIALS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE e opposes a specific investigation, can THEY halt that FBI investigation?

COMEY: In theory, yes.

HIRONO: Has it happened?

COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that — without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes THEY give us opinions that "we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it." But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.
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Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

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Hirono's question was very specific — referring to "the attorney general or senior officials at the Department of Justice" — and not the president. There's been no indication that officials at the Justice Department applied pressure to Comey to stop any part of the Russia investigation.

What we have learned from Comey associates is that he wrote a memo shortly after a private meeting with Trump in February, in which Comey recounted Trump saying, "I hope you can let this go." This was just after national security adviser Michael Flynn was forced to resign after misleading Vice President Pence and others regarding his interactions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Trump's comment to Comey was said to refer to the investigation of Flynn as part of the FBI's larger Russia probe. As NPR's Carrie Johnson reported, Comey recalled giving a nonresponse and wrote a "very, very detailed" memo to recount the meeting shortly after. Comey is known to keep such memos to record important professional episodes, like the night in 2004 when he stopped senior members of the Bush administration from reauthorizing the domestic surveillance program without proper approval.

Congress wants to see Comey's memos regarding his meetings with Trump. In legal proceedings, such contemporaneous notes can hold a lot of credibility. But the White House has vehemently denied Trump ever said anything that would pressure Comey to back off of Flynn or the larger Russia investigation.

"While the President has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the President has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn," a White House official said in a statement. "The President has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations. This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the President and Mr. Comey."

It seemed to some that Comey's statement before the Senate Judiciary Committee just before he was fired may have affirmed the White House's position, because that quote was OFTEN HEARD WITHOUT THE QUESTION. When Comey re-emerges in public before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday, he could well be asked whether he was lying in his earlier testimony.

But given Hirono's wording and Comey's well-known attention to detail, he may simply say that HE WAS ANSWERING THE QUESTION HE WAS ASKED.
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[Emphases added.]

opie said...

Loretta said...
Donald Sachtleben, former FBI agent, was a private citizen when he leaked information. He's now in prison.

June 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM

Yep, loretta again proved she's dumber than a brick. LOL Again, she makes a straw man without thinking. He leaked classified technical information dumbass. Try again.

Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:24 PM
Former FBI agent arrested for leaking secret data
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Former FBI agent Donald Sachtleben

A former FBI explosives expert has been charged with leaking the classified information about an upgraded underwear bomb involved in a foiled terrorist plot in Yemen.
Donald Sachtleben was also charged with distributing child pornography and now faces a total of 11 years and eight months behind bars for the two crimes, a report in the Daily Mail said Tuesday.

opie said...

Menstral the idiot posted another lie...,,

But impeachment is a political decision and the impeachment and removal of a sitting president requires the consent of the a vast majority of Americans.

It requires perjury, treason and or high crimes or misdemeanors as charged by congress. Idiot. Another menstral child fail. LOL

Loretta said...

Still a citizen.

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Loretta said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta said...

Spam by the pedo

Loretta said...

"'m convinced that the alky, the pederast, and the pie hole exist on this blog to constantly explore the deepest and darkest depths of stupidity."

Oh I get some comedic relief when they try to impress you guys with their sermons, accomplishments, coins, home in the mountains.....

It's like they're wanting to date you, LOL.

cowardly king obama said...


All the hate, the worries, the total unhingement, the desperation by the left

I suggest they relax and take in a movie, maybe go watch the Rice Benghazi video

MAKING FOR A GREAT WEEKEND PRESIDENT TRUMP

more popcorn PLEAAZE !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!

opie said...

Rat hole said.....
i'm convinced that the alky, the pederast, and the pie hole exist on this blog to constantly explore the deepest and darkest depths of stupidity.


deepest and darkest depths
Like fucking loretta???????LOLOLOL

Loretta said...

"MAKING FOR A GREAT WEEKEND PRESIDENT TRUMP

more popcorn PLEAAZE !!!
ROFLMFAO !!!"

LMAO.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

“Mr. Trump could still move to block the [Comey] testimony next week, given his history of changing his mind at the last minute about major decisions. But legal experts have said that Mr. Trump has a weak case to invoke executive privilege because he has publicly addressed his conversations with Mr. Comey, and any such move could carry serious political risks.”
--The New York Times

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Hoist by his own petard.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

White House Stays Quiet on Kushner

“From undisclosed meetings with a Putin-allied banker to the suggestion of secret backchannels using Russian communication equipment, the past week’s headlines have gotten increasingly dire for Jared Kushner,” Axios reports.

“A normally chatty and combative White House has been largely radio silent on the Kushner drama with senior administration officials like National Economic Director Gary Cohn and National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster refusing to comment when asked directly about the matter in press briefings.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Democrats Outraged Over Trump Ban on Info Requests

“Hill Democrats are outraged by a new Trump administration policy to ignore information requests from members and senators unless they come from committee or subcommittee chairman. They argue it’s part of a broader pattern by the White House, designed to make the executive branch less responsive to Congress,” Politico reports.

“And they say it effectively locks them out of information necessary for government oversight.”
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Playbook: “This is another example of why it is hard to see Democrats coming to the table with Trump and congressional Republicans on any major infrastructure or tax reform package. It could also cause further problems for Trump and GOP leadership when they need Democrats to pass the debt limit and other must-pass bills.”
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Vladimir Trump.

cowardly king obama said...


Does Obama's legacy have anything left?

Did his legacy just run out of ink?

Will little jimmy keep flailing and cut-n-pasting till he collapses in total exhausted defeat, realizing he is a total failure too? Stay tuned.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Anonymous said...

“Hill Democrats are outraged by a new Trump administration policy to ignore information requests from members and senators unless they come from committee or subcommittee chairman. They argue it’s part of a broader pattern by the White House, designed to make the executive branch less responsive to Congress,” Politico reports.
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are these the same democrats who willingly and gleefully accepted a subservient role to the executive branch when 0linsky had his little pen and phone party?

i remember several taking to the floor of the house to publicly cheer on their dear leader as he openly and brazenly went around them.

my how times have changed.

Anonymous said...

It could also cause further problems for Trump and GOP leadership when they need Democrats to pass the debt limit and other must-pass bills.”
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"need democrats?"

LOL.

the GOP can go nuclear, dimwit. thanks to harry reid. or use reconciliation. again, thanks to harry reid.

no one "needs" democrats. not the house, not the senate, and not the american people.

Loretta said...

LOL.

Poor old pedophile, no one needs him either.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL I just keep putting up intelligent commentary to make this miserable wilderness of a blog more enjoyable for myself.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

12:30 What Obama did with his pen and phone, other Presidents have done.

"Ignor[ing] information requests from members and senators" is another matter.
What administrations before Trump have done that?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...
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