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Monday, July 17, 2017

Trump Russia collusion story - not important to many Americans

So a recent YouGov poll shows that only 12% of Americans believe that the broader issue of Trumps relationship with Russia is considered to be one of the issues that is of most importance to them . This includes 20% of Democrats, and only 2% of Republicans.  Based on the question, this 12% includes pretty much our relationship as a whole to Russia. So it's likely that the Russian Collusion story is even a lower priority than this survey suggests.

What "was" deemed to be the most important issues?  By significant margins, it would appear that health care, the economy, and immigration top the list.

When it comes to the GOP,  the Trump Russia story fell behind every issue on the list other than the environment (also a top concern for 2%). This includes things like foreign policy, gun policy, the way things work in Washington, and infrastructure. With independents, there were five other categories of more importance. More actually chose "not sure" than chose Trump/Russia.

So the first major take-aways from this poll would be that the media is obviously spending a lot of time on something of great interest to them, but of nominal interest to the country. The second major take-away from this poll would be that it doesn't appear to be of any major concern to Republican voters. If the Democrats believed that this Trump/Russia thing would discourage GOP voters, they apparently are barking up the wrong tree.

(Couple this with the recent WaPo poll showing that only 6% of Republicans buy into the collusion thing, and we have a trend here).

All that being said, I don't expect that either the media or the Democrats will stop beating the dead collusion horse any time soon. They obviously don't see the forest for the (constant drip of) trees here.

53 comments:

opie said...

So a recent YouGov poll shows that only 12%

Yep, overall the country seems indifferent....However, a poll has shown the Indy support is now underwater and those counties that flipped for trump are now 50 50.... It looks like as time is passing the cumulative displeasure is creeping into the baseline idiots, like you.

Loretta said...

ABC News’ Jonathan Karl says new ABC News/Washington Post poll shows majority of the country believes that “Democrats stand for nothing more than opposing” Donald J. Trump. “That’s a problem for Democrats…they have to stand for something beyond simply opposing the president"

C.H. Truth said...

Congress in general has an average approval rating of 17% with a disapproval of 70%.

Seriously, 70% of Americans disapprove of Congress, and there are people in Congress who think they should be trying impeach the President. Others, like Chuck Schumer wander up to the podium acting like a voice of reason.

opie said...

Seriously, 70% of Americans disapprove of Congress,

Seriously, congressional approval has sucked for years!!! It has been below 20% since 2005!!! And your point is what, CH, congress sucks and with the ACA will probably sink further....And yes, the D's message also sucks and schummer is not helping.

Myballs seeing America become great again said...

The dem party is irrelevant right now. The media is the opposition party.

That is bad for America. Trump ix absolutely right about them.

caliphate4vr said...

She talks the way Roger and fatty write Illogical...halting...distorted...blather

opie said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
She talks the way Roger and fatty write Illogical...halting...distorted...blather

Shouldn't you be working and failing at peddling insurance??? Instead you provide another snippet of stupidity that has become all you post....Idiot!!!

A Monmouth poll said...

“About 4-in-10 Americans currently support impeaching Trump six months into his term, which is significantly higher than the number who called for Richard Nixon’s impeachment six months into that president’s second term.”

FiveThirtyEight said...

Trump Is Historically Unpopular

“Trump’s early-term unpopularity is unusual. In the decades since World War II, the average first-term president before Trump had an approval rating of 62 percent on his 175th day in office, 23 percentage points higher than Trump’s. Only two other presidents have had an approval rating south of 50 percent at this point in their terms, and only Gerald Ford, at 35 percent, had an approval rating lower than Trump’s; Ford’s rating tumbled following his decision to pardon Richard Nixon.

“Trump’s disapproval rating, however, is much higher than Ford’s, and Trump is the only president of whom a majority of Americans have said they disapprove of the job he is doing this soon after his inauguration. His net approval rating is 54 points below average and remains by far the lowest in the period for which we have data.”

Loretta said...

Awe, look at pastor James Boswell trolling and spamming.

Must not have any pedophilia to swoon over yet today.

Democraticaly minded James said...

Democrats Still Divided on Their Message

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley (D-NY) hesitated when asked about his party’s core message to voters, the AP reports.
Said Crowley: “That message is being worked on. We’re doing everything we can to simplify it, but at the same time provide the meat behind it as well. So that’s coming together now.

“The admission from the No. 4 House Democrat — that his party lacks a clear, core message even amid Republican disarray — highlights the Democrats’ dilemma eight months after President Donald Trump and the GOP dominated last fall’s elections, in part, because Democrats lacked a consistent message.”
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That's easy.
Our core message should be

-----AMERICA FOR US ALL-----

Covering his mouth to laugh, James said...

EXCUSE ME WHILE I LAUGH

How Republicans Underestimated Obamacare Repeal

Politico:
“The Trump transition team and other Republican leaders presumed that Congress would scrap Obamacare by President’s Day weekend in late February, ha ha ha ha ha ha

according to three former Republican congressional aides and two current ones familiar with the administration’s efforts.

“Republican leaders last fall planned a quick strike on the law ha ha ha ha ha ha

in a series of meetings and phone calls, hoping to simply revive a 2015 repeal bill that Obama vetoed. ha ha ha ha ha ha

Few in the administration or Republican leadership expected the effort to stretch into the summer months, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

with another delay announced this weekend, ha ha ha ha ha ha

eating into valuable time for lawmakers to tackle

tax reform, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

nominations ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
or
spending bills.” ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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EXCUSE ME AGAIN

Bonus Quote of the Day

“It’s a presidency under siege. Unless some dramatic changes are made, I think there’s a real question about whether the presidency can survive.” ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
— Leon Panetta, quoted by USA Today.

Amused, James said...


I forgot: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Loretta said...

Apparently there isn't any pedophilia for pastor James Boswell to swoon over yet today.

Amused, James said... said...


What I do on my own is my own business

opie said...

Seems the country is heading for modified obama care,.....

With the fate of the Senate health care bill uncertain at best, a new poll finds Americans ranking it one of the country's top issues.

According to a Bloomberg poll, health care was listed as the top issue at 35%, more than twice as much as any other issue.

But interestingly, the president's promise to repeal and replace Obamacare isn't just unpopular with health care professionals, it's also vastly unpopular with the American people.


AdChoices
Sixty-four percent disapprove of how Trump is handling the issue compared to 28 percent approving.

OPIE said...

Loretta the flaming asshole said...
Apparently there isn't any pedophilia

Don't you ever act rationally,...what a waste of space and resources. IDIOT

Loretta said...

There's the admission.

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

Roger Amick said...

Almost all the Republicans believe that there was no Russian conclusion in the meeting initiated by Junior . Well the president just threw a rock in that. They have been saying the whole thing was about adoption but the president just blew that out not even thinking about it. Implication any clear mind is that some paperwork went to junior to the campaign and was used against Hillary Clinton provided by hostile nation to interfere with our election system.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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6h

Most politicians would have gone to a meeting like the one Don jr attended in order to get info on an opponent. That's politics.


Trumpets went on the Sunday talk shows saying there's no connection between the Russians government and the meeting . Oh host spent the whole weekend doing the same thing. no connection at all. The president says that's okay this politics.

opie said...

Loretta said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

Go fucking away cunt. Don't you have a skin flute to play?????

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

Loretta said...



"LorettaJuly 17, 2017 at 3:44 PM

Apparently there isn't any pedophilia for pastor James Boswell to swoon over yet today.

ReplyDelete

Amused, James said...July 17, 2017 at 3:54 PM

What I do on my own is my own business

Reply
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LorettaJuly 17, 2017 at 4:03 PM

There's the admission."

opie said...

Loretta said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

Gut eating squaw skin flute playing cunt.... Now go away asshole.

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Fatty

rrb said...

Implication any clear mind is that some paperwork went to junior to the campaign and was used against Hillary Clinton provided by hostile nation to interfere with our election system.
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hey rog, can you clean this up a bit?

i don't speak fucktard.

thanks.

Roger Amick said...

First trumpcare is dead. Two more Senators came out against it this after this evening. It is not passing and he has lost his primary reason for president.

Second if Clinton had won, and then the story came out about Chelsea and the leaks from the Russians that were used against Trump to win the contest you guys are B ballistic Atomic and blowing up it was nothing left because you're such a hypocrite pieces of s*** and that's the way it is. I'm used to that it's what you guys are. Even our host used to be somewhat dispassionate not anymore he's got trumpism stage 4 and it's incurable. As far as rrb you got the brain of a rat you racist piece of s***. Other than that failure the failure to repeal Obamacare is great news for the country. If you look at the numbers 40% of the people would like to see the president impeached and removed from office. It won't happen but it should. He is not paying attention to his job he sits and watches the goddamn telephone television curses at it tweets and doesn't understand what he's got to do to get anything past and in the Congress or understand anything and Foreign Affairs nothing he's a piece of s*** and you should never be president and you still love the bastard. You should know better especially especially Scott but he's just completely lost it I don't understand why but he has it's very sad he used to be the cold hard truth it's the cold hard truth no more

Roger Amick said...

Loans issued by a bank run by former campaign adviser Steve Calk are focus of subpoena
Paul Manafort is among the Trump associates at the center of federal and congressional investigations into Russian meddling in last year’s presidential election.
Paul Manafort is among the Trump associates at the center of federal and congressional investigations into Russian meddling in last year’s presidential election.

New York prosecutors have demanded records relating to up to $16 million in loans that a bank run by a former campaign adviser for President Donald Trump made to former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The subpoena by the Manhattan district attorney’s office to the Federal Savings Bank, a small Chicago bank run by Steve Calk, sought information on loans the bank issued in November and January to Mr. Manafort and his wife, the person said. The loans were secured by two properties in New York and a condominium in Virginia, real-estate records show.

Asked about the subpoena Monday, Mr. Calk said he had no comment.

A spokesman for Mr. Manafort declined to comment.

Mr. Manafort, a Republican political consultant who spent years working for a pro-Russia party in Ukraine, is among the Trump associates at the center of federal and congressional investigations into Russian meddling in last year’s presidential election.

Russia has denied meddling in the election, and Mr. Trump and his representatives have said there was no collaboration. Mr. Manafort hasn’t been accused of wrongdoing and has said any suggestion that he coordinated with Russia is unfounded.

The Wall Street Journal reported in May that Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman had begun examining real-estate transactions by Mr. Manafort, who has spent and borrowed tens of millions of dollars in connection with property across the U.S. over the past decade. Investigators at both offices are examining the transactions for indications of money-laundering and fraud, people familiar with the matters have said.

The Journal reported that at the time of the loans from Federal Savings Bank, Mr. Manafort was at risk of losing a Brooklyn, N.Y., townhouse and his family’s investments in California properties being developed by his son-in-law, real-estate and court records show.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-seeks-bank-records-of-former-trump-associate-paul-manafort-1500327062

$16 million hmmmmmm

Roger Amick said...

On Thursday, President Trump will officially have been in office for six months, and his term so far has included a few victories (the nomination and confirmation of Neil Gorsuch to the U.S. Supreme Court), plenty of frustrations (court battles over his travel ban, delays in efforts to overhaul health care) and lots of controversy (accusations that members of his campaign colluded with Russia to interfere with the 2016 election). Put all those wins and losses together, and it adds up to this: Barring a sudden turnaround this week, Trump will conclude his first six months in office as the most unpopular president, at that point in his first term, since modern polling began.

Trump’s approval rating as of last Thursday, 175 days into his presidency, was 39 percent, according to the FiveThirtyEight Trump approval tracker. Combined with a disapproval rating of 55 percent, Trump’s net approval rating (approval minus disapproval) was -16 percentage points.

The more you read the worse it looks.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/six-months-in-trump-is-historically-unpopular/

He won't pass any of his campaign promises none .

Beyond any doubt the worst president in history of United States of America is Donald J Trump.

Loretta said...

Spam by the drunkard.

Commonsense said...

Second if Clinton had won, and then the story came out about Chelsea and the leaks from the Russians that were used against Trump to win the contest you guys are B ballistic

The problem is the story would have never come out and you would have said that it's just hyperbole from Fox News.

See below:

A chapter in the book suggests that the Clinton family and Russia each may have benefited from a “pay-for-play” scheme while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, involving the transfer of U.S. uranium reserves to the new Russian owners of an international mining operation in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation.

The mining company, Uranium One, was originally based in South Africa, but merged in 2007 with Canada-based UrAsia Energy. Shareholders there retained a controlling interest until 2010, when Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom, completed purchase of a 51% stake. Hillary Clinton played a part in the transaction because it involved the transfer of ownership of a material deemed important to national security — uranium, amounting to one-fifth of U.S. reserves — thus requiring the approval of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), on which the U.S. Secretary of State sits.

During the same time frame that the acquisition took place, Schweizer claims in Clinton Cash, the Clinton Foundation accepted contributions from nine individuals associated with Uranium One totaling more than $100 million. Among those who followed him in citing the transaction as an example of alleged Clinton corruption was GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who said during a June 2016 speech in New York City:


rrb said...

Trump’s approval rating as of last Thursday, 175 days into his presidency, was 39 percent, according to the FiveThirtyEight Trump approval tracker.
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huh. no shit?

hey alky, remind us again who nate silver had predicted would be president right now.

Roger Amick said...

One more time you racist rodent. My name is Roger not Alky .

Wall Street Journal weighs in today.

Trump and the truth are completely opposite.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trumps-and-the-truth-1500332545

Even Donald Trump might agree that a major reason he won the 2016 election is because voters couldn’t abide Hillary Clinton’s legacy of scandal, deception and stonewalling. Yet on the story of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, Mr. Trump and his family are repeating the mistakes that doomed Mrs. Clinton.

That’s the lesson the Trumps should draw from the fiasco over Don Jr.’s June 2016 meeting with Russians peddling dirt on Mrs. Clinton. First Don Jr. let news of the meeting leak without getting ahead of it. Then the White House tried to explain it away as a “nothingburger” that focused on adoptions from Russia.

When that was exposed as incomplete, Don Jr. released his emails that showed the Russian lure about Mrs. Clinton and Don Jr. all excited—“I love it.” Oh, and son-in-law Jared Kushner and Beltway bagman Paul Manafort were also at the meeting. Don Jr. told Sean Hannity this was the full story. But then news leaked that a Russian-American lobbyist was also at the meeting.

Even if the ultimate truth of this tale is merely that Don Jr. is a political dunce who took a meeting that went nowhere—the best case—the Trumps made it appear as if they have something to hide. They have created the appearance of a conspiracy that on the evidence Don Jr. lacks the wit to concoct. And they handed their opponents another of the swords that by now could arm a Roman legion.

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Don’t you get it, guys? Special counsel Robert Mueller and the House and Senate intelligence committees are investigating the Russia story. Everything that is potentially damaging to the Trumps will come out, one way or another. Everything. Denouncing leaks as “fake news” won’t wash as a counter-strategy beyond the President’s base, as Mr. Trump’s latest 36% approval rating shows.

Mr. Trump seems to realize he has a problem because the White House has announced the hiring of white-collar Washington lawyer Ty Cobb to manage its Russia defense. He’ll presumably supersede the White House counsel, whom Mr. Trump ignores, and New York outside counsel Marc Kasowitz, who is out of his political depth.

Loretta said...

"hey alky, remind us again who nate silver had predicted would be president right now."

💃

Roger Amick said...

Cobb has an opening to change the Trump strategy to one with the best chance of saving his Presidency: radical transparency. Release everything to the public ahead of the inevitable leaks. Mr. Cobb and his team should tell every Trump family member, campaign operative and White House aide to disclose every detail that might be relevant to the Russian investigations.

That means every meeting with any Russian or any American with Russian business ties. Every phone call or email. And every Trump business relationship with Russians going back years. This should include every relevant part of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, which the President will resist but Mr. Mueller is sure to seek anyway.

Then release it all to the public. Whatever short-term political damage this might cause couldn’t be worse than the death by a thousand cuts of selective leaks, often out of context, from political opponents in Congress or the special counsel’s office. If there really is nothing to the Russia collusion allegations, transparency will prove it. Americans will give Mr. Trump credit for trusting their ability to make a fair judgment. Pre-emptive disclosure is the only chance to contain the political harm from future revelations.


This is the opposite of the Clinton stonewall strategy, which should be instructive. That strategy saved Bill Clinton’s Presidency in the 1990s at a fearsome price and only because the media and Democrats in Congress rallied behind him. Mr. Trump can’t count on the same from Republicans and most of the media want him run out of office.

If Mr. Trump’s approval rating stays under 40% into next year, Republicans will begin to separate themselves from an unpopular President in a (probably forlorn) attempt to save their majorities in Congress. If Democrats win the House, the investigations into every aspect of the Trump business empire, the 2016 campaign and the Administration will multiply. Impeachment will be a constant undercurrent if not an active threat. His supporters will become demoralized.

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Mr. Trump will probably ignore this advice, as he has most of what these columns have suggested. Had he replaced James Comey at the FBI shortly after taking office in January, for example, he might not now have a special counsel threatening him and his family.

Mr. Trump somehow seems to believe that his outsize personality and social-media following make him larger than the Presidency. He’s wrong. He and his family seem oblivious to the brutal realities of Washington politics. Those realities will destroy Mr. Trump, his family and their business reputation unless they change their strategy toward the Russia probe. They don’t have much more time to do it.


The lies have become so evident that even this 36%, and falling. The bottom dropping may be in the 20s. George W. Bush dropped in the 20s. Trump's base will probably collapse.

He obviously does not understand that in order to get things done in Washington DC have to work within the system bringing his family and the nepotism is not getting it done . The lies upon lies upon lies upon lies are even cutting his hard core support.

McConnell wants to repeal Obamacare with a two-year delay. the odds are that at least one house of the Congress will no longer be in Republican hands after the two 2018 elections. Mr. Trump has no credibility and has no leverage on the Congress the Senate or anybody else except his own family. His primary agenda was repeal and replace Obamacare,it's dead.

We have a president and commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces is supposedly the leader of the free world. His word is not taken for the truth anywhere in the world except on some of your people on this blog and his weakening base.

The Democrats of been handed a chance to take over the Congress. Whether they will or will not as yet to be determined.

The bottom line is this: Donald J Trump is a total failure, and it's his own damn fault.

caliphate4vr said...

What?

Loretta said...

LOL

rrb said...

Trump's base will probably collapse.
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LOL.you wish.

outside of alky-land and the washington beltway this shows virtually no chance of happening. trump voters, even the one's who voted for 0linsky, seem quite pleased with his progress and are not showing any signs of growing weary of all the "winning BIGLY."

check out yesterday's "made in the USA" event, alky.

THAT'S what americans care about. not your incessant whining about russia.

look, we get it. waterhead the liver boy hates trump.

YAWN.

Roger Amick said...

Nobody watched Made in America yesterday and nobody.

opie said...

Menstral child posted...
The problem is the story would have never come out

Allegations of a "quid pro quo" deal giving Russia ownership of one-fifth of U.S. uranium deposits in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation are unsubstantiated.

From the CS link....the story per snopes was fake, just like trump!!!

opie said...

Roger Amick said...
Nobody watched Made in America yesterday and nobody.

And nobody here commented about his how his dear spawn Ivanka has ALL her merchandise is from foreign sources, just like her old man's was. They sure do lead by example, doncha think?????

Loretta said...

"look, we get it. waterhead the liver boy hates trump.

YAWN."

..."waterhead the liver boy"

LOL

Roger Amick said...

Remember: this bill failed because even though it took away health coverage from 22 million low-income people, it wasn’t harsh enough toward the poor. This is what the modern Republican Party has become.

The truthers would take away Medicaid completely and just let people hurry up and die.

Loretta said...

LOL.

Drama queen.

Loretta said...

"LorettaJuly 17, 2017 at 3:44 PM

Apparently there isn't any pedophilia for pastor James Boswell to swoon over yet today.

ReplyDelete

Amused, James said...July 17, 2017 at 3:54 PM

What I do on my own is my own business

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LorettaJuly 17, 2017 at 4:03 PM

There's the admission."

rrb said...

Roger Amick said...
Remember: this bill failed because even though it took away health coverage from 22 million low-income people
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no, that's a lie and you know it.

the bill DOES NOT REQUIRE 22M to buy coverage they don't want or need.

your lies about this might fly on your "occupy democrats!!!11!" facebook page, but here... not so much.

depending upon the stage of life that a person is in, they would like the freedom to purchase what they would like. not what some fuckwit liberal tells them they must have.

think of it as "pro choice" alky. only it doesn't involve Gosnelling a baby.

rrb said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Nobody watched Made in America yesterday and nobody.
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then how did i find out about it, genius?

'special report' with bret baier reported on it. not cnn i know, but then again bret knows the difference between the american and french national anthems.

Loretta said...

"Trump’s approval rating as of last Thursday, 175 days into his presidency, was 39 percent, according to the FiveThirtyEight Trump approval tracker."

Still more popular than Hillary, LOL

rrb said...

Still more popular than Hillary, LOL
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colon cancer, AIDS, stepping on a lego in the dark and the heartbreak of psoriasis is more popular than hillary.

caliphate4vr said...

Remember: this bill failed because even though it took away health coverage from 22 million low-income people,

You're a damn liar and i have proven the 22 million is a lie

C.H. Truth said...

Gee Roger...

You "care" about the Russian story and therefore are quite willing to listen to those journalists who share your concern.

A lion's share of voters (and only 2% of Republicans) do not give a bigger rat's ass about the story. Because (in spite of the media tripping over each other to report every non-issue as the biggest story since Watergate) it's all been a nothing burger.

It's a distraction at best... a big basket of distraction that the media and many Democrats continue to dump all of it's eggs into, hoping it becomes something real.

Good luck winning in 2018 on the Russian Story

rrb said...

You're a damn liar and i have proven the 22 million is a lie
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you have to give roger credit for continuing to bitterly cling to his occupy democrats talking points...

although i have to wonder why the left seems to only be able to stay true to that which we know to be false. no matter the topic - foreign & domestic policy, the economy, health care, campus rape, trump's travel ban, everything, they seem to only be able to propagate a line of reasoning that has absolutely no basis in fact. it's all conjecture, innuendo, and sleight of hand. there's not an ounce of truth in any of it. and their latest - celebrating a cop killer who fled to cuba in 1979.

this is how we got trump, and all they seem to be willing to do is double down.

of course i would never try to talk them out of it, but in trying to understand it i'm left to conclude that liberalism really is a form of mental illness.

caliphate4vr said...

of course i would never try to talk them out of it, but in trying to understand it i'm left to conclude that liberalism really is a form of mental illness.

It's the habitual lying that i don't get. even when the talking point is thoroughly discredited, they don't stop repeating it