Monday, August 21, 2017

Compare and Contrast

Benghazi: 
  • Americans are killed in raid on our embassy.
  • Administration privately believes it was a terrorist attack.
  • Administration publicly blames YouTube video for spontaneous riots.
  • Administration sends surrogate out to Sunday shows to push Video riot spin.
  • The President speaks about the events seven days later - still blames video.
  • When asked two weeks later if it was an act of terror, Obama states that they are still investigating.

Charlottesville
  • Protest and counter-protest turns violent. One person killed. Dozens injured. Many arrested.
  • President comes out same day and condemns everyone involved in the violence.
  • President comes out two days later, gives another formal statement specifically in which he specifically condemns the White Supremacist groups. 
  • At press conference the day after the second statement, he reiterates that after he and his team had reviewed all of the relevant video, police reports, etc... that the evidence shows that there was violence initiated by both the protesters and counter-protesters 

With Benghazi... the left never had a problem with how the Administration handled things. Didn't question why the President's seven day or fourteen day responses. Didn't question why the President wouldn't conclusively state it was an act of terror, even two weeks later. Never "really" questioned why they basically lied to the American public about the cause. No calls for action against anyone.

But with Charlottesville... apparently the fact that the President's statement on the day of the event did not specifically "blame" the right group was appalling (in spite of having almost no information yet). The fact that a second statement came out two days later was deemed as non-responsive and too little too late. Many openly call for his resignation, censurship, or even impeachment.

Bottom Line:

The Obama administration openly lied to and fed the country the story they felt would be the best political story to tell. The President himself was silent for seven days.  Donald Trump came out right way and basically told the truth rather than feed the country with the story that would make the most political sense.  Apparently...  the the left finds it more important that Presidents tell us what they want to hear, than it is to actually tell the truth.

50 comments:

commie said...

Benghazi:

She lost the electoral count. Other than the vapid right, no one really gives a shit about Hillary anymore!!!

commie said...

President comes out same day and condemns everyone involved in the violence

Bottom line.....BULLSHIT!!!!

commie said...

From the NY Daily News.....not known to be a liberal mouthpiece.......In CH world, this is admonishment!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

President Trump on Tuesday sought to sanitize the stench of hate surrounding a deadly white nationalist rally in Virginia, calling armed, torch-carrying protesters clad in Nazi gear “very fine people” looking to protect their history.

Trump, in a return to his statement from Saturday, cast blame for the outbreak of savagery on “both sides” and shrugged off the evil nature that made up the core of the white supremacist groups in the crowd at the “Unite the Right” event.

“You had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest,” the President said of the sea of people who chanted Nazi slogans, carried swastikas and wore combat gear.

Trump, speaking at a hastily called press conference on infrastructure in the lobby of his Fifth Ave. skyscraper, stood defiant in the face of criticism that he was too soft or slow to condemn the neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan and other white power groups that gathered to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Commonsense said...

From the NY Daily News.....not known to be a liberal mouthpiece...

Now that's a laugh. The New York Daily News is to the left of the New York Times.

And that's saying something.

C.H. Truth said...

Well if a journalist wrote it...

It must be true, huh?

Idiot!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous commie said...
From the NY Daily News....
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the daily news employs "talcum x" shaun king.

a white kid who has convinced himself he's a black kid.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Talcum%20X

Commonsense said...

Here's you lunatic left laugh for the day.

On August 21, 2017, a total solar eclipse will arrive mid-morning on the coast of Oregon. The moon’s shadow will be about 70 miles wide, and it will race across the country faster than the speed of sound, exiting the eastern seaboard shortly before 3 p.m. local time. It has been dubbed the Great American Eclipse, and along most of its path, there live almost no black people.

On other words God is a racist. That is all.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You need help.

Myballs seeing America become great again said...

He linked an actual article you dumbass.

KD said...

Did the left condemn the execution of the two Kissemee Cops?

KD said...

HB, what help have you ever been?

You said ISIS is out of Iraq.

Commonsense said...

No, quite the opposite. More than a few said those redneck cops got what they deserve. (The second one who died was African-American)

KD said...

President Trump

KD said...

I see that the daling little radicals of antifa in three cities. Damage police propery, thru piss balloons and other assaults on LEO's.

Anonymous said...


Public Papers of the Presidents

Jimmy Carter1978: Book II

The American Presidency Project


In posthumously restoring the full rights of citizenship to Jefferson Davis, the Congress officially completes the long process of reconciliation that has reunited our people following the tragic conflict between the States. Earlier, he was specifically exempted form resolutions restoring the rights of other officials in the Confederacy. He had served the United States long and honorably as a soldier, Member of the U.S. House and Senate, and as Secretary of War. General Robert E. Lee's citizenship was restored in 1976. It is fitting that Jefferson Davis should no longer be singled out for punishment.

Our Nation needs to clear away the guilts and enmities and recriminations of the past, to finally set at rest the divisions that threatened to destroy our Nation and to discredit the principles on which it was founded. Our people need to turn their attention to the important tasks that still lie before us in establishing those principles for all people.

Citation: Jimmy Carter: "Restoration of Citizenship Rights to Jefferson F. Davis Statement on Signing S. J. Res. 16 into Law. ," October 17, 1978. Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29993.




heh.




Anonymous said...




hey,

anyone have a "RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA!!!11!!" update?

adam schitt's been quiet, and i figured with all the preliminary hysteria, we'd be frog-marching at least few folks by now.

alky? anything? you and max scene waters were on this like flies on shit.



caliphate4vr said...

Well the eclipse was cool as hell.

KD said...

I totally agree

KD said...

At the peak of the Eclipse I gave my wife a rose and a kiss.
I got the "awe". Priceless.

caliphate4vr said...

I don't understand why we are putting more troops in A-stan and I've been saying that since W was president.

Fuck those goat fuckers. Blow the shit up and leave

KD said...

As a prior service member I agree.

caliphate4vr said...


As a prior service member I agree.


Do legs count?

AIRDAMNBORNE

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The Presidential address. More troops. No contractors.

Be Presidential sir.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Pakistan?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He did reduce the Presidential authority on field decisions. Obama micro management was not popular with the military commanders. Not bad.

He didn't go political, except for a couple things. But he's got the same problems Obama did. Not a big change in strategic planning.

If he can get Pakistan to cooperate, that would be a big deal.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

But it's more like declare Victory and get up get the hell out eventually. He did not announce any major strategical changes at all. And he did not give a timeline of any kind just like I said you may invention just like Nixon did and Vietnam said it's all theirs. But next to him private said that there's no way of the government in Saigon was going to survive. Eventually we could have the same kind of thing here you never know.

KD said...

Hb you said he was handing it over to blackwater, he did not, wrong again.

KD said...

Cali, fucking "A" YES.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Presidential address. More troops. No contractors.
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yup. and here you were a couple days ago telling us that the whole thing was going to be outsourced to blackwater.

MSDNC thought so and you ran with it.

hack.

KD said...

Rrb, don't be so hard on alky the human idiot liberal parrot.

commie said...


On other words God is a racist. That is all.

IOW's....did you actually read the article? Probably not.

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
Well the eclipse was cool as hell.

Yes, it got cool....even cooler watching it from the driveway of my cabin....Had a cloud come over right at the peak....but it still was cool.....

Anonymous said...

Fuck those goat fuckers. Blow the shit up and leave
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i'm with you. it's "molten glass parking lot" time.

so we send them reeling back from the 11th century to the 10th. big fucking deal.

Commonsense said...

Well Opie it's obvious you didn't read it. You know most times commenting just to comment makes you look like an ass.

Not that that's a very high bar to begin with.

Commonsense said...

I don't understand why we are putting more troops in A-stan

Me too. Sounds like the same incremental strategy that has failed before.

Either unleash the fire and fury their descendants will be writing about a thousand years from now, or just get the hell out.

KD said...

Seems to me us conservatives disagree with our President. Something HB said we never would do. Alky is wrong again.

commie said...

Commonsense said...
Well Opie it's obvious you didn't read it.

Yer an asshole. Your comment about about racism could only be generated by an abject cultist like yourself and was nothing more than a trolll. Grow up and learn to temper your stupidity....Asshole.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A somber speech. He didn't use the usual rhetoric. He said that the reality of being President. He was very general, not many specifics. He didn't say anything the number of troops, or if any.

He has been confronted with the reality of the war in Afghanistan. He is going to get Pakistan and India to coordinate with us on the plan to destroy the Taliban. Pakistan has been our "allie" but they have given Taliban fighters refuge. I hope that he can get them to stop that, and perhaps get even more involved in the defeat of the Taliban.

In a quick summary. He made a sincere effort to unite the country behind him as the President. I watched the entire time, and saw a man who faced the reality of the punt stops there.

We can't just walk away.

In general, it was somber, and responsible. Bush and Obama faced the same reality. There probably is no way to achieve a conventional outcome.
A solid and sober look at reality. Well done.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

That was being discussed. He correctly rejected the use of Blackwater. Grow up.

Commonsense said...

It was only being discussed in the fevered swamps of left-wing conspiracy sites.

Just another reason people think you've gone nuts.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I haven't looked at anything. I watched the President, then watched my Angels go down.

Thought about the President, then went to sleep.

These are my thoughts and mine alone.

Bannon accused him being a traitor.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Look. I posted a piece based on my thoughts and mine alone. I suspect that you have been reading right wing web sites. But you accused me of being hysterical. Look in the mirror and you won't like what you see.

Anonymous said...

Look in the mirror and you won't like what you see.
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really?

when i look in the mirror i see a guy who is NOT recovering from a liver transplant brought on by self-inflicted behavior.

KD said...

BINGO

a mortgage at that age,sad!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I gave him a positive response. Then all you can do is wish me bad health. Well, let me put it this way I'm going to live you f****** a******. All the numbers on my liver itself are top-notch I had none little bit of rejection at all nothing. So again you can shove it up your butt and that's the only place you can put your head because that's where it lives all the time up your f****** ass.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

And again you ignore the reality. My condition polycystic liver disease is an inherited condition. The doctor said my drinking did not make it any worse I just happened to be a unusual case. The fact that I quit drinking made it possible that they would finally give a transplant to a polycystic patient which is very unusual. Less than 1% of the transplants if I have the number right are approximately that's all there are I'm one of the 1%. So Jimmy shove it up your ass. I'm going to live and I'm going to f*** with your mind every f****** day I get a chance because it ain't much there to pick on anyhow f*** you

Anonymous said...

Then all you can do is wish me bad health.
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rog,

for the final fucking time -

your health, good or bad, means nothing to me. you seem obsessed with my opinion of your health but the truth is... i simply don't care. never have, never will.

your overall significance to me, including your health, is the equivalent of a pimple on a gnat's ass.

in other words, try to imagine how little i care.

got it???

caliphate4vr said...

even cooler watching it from the driveway of my cabin....


was your scarf apricot?

KD said...

DEM NJ. CRIMINAL. IF convicted that sear goes Republican. Sweet

KD said...

Cali, darn funny.

commie said...



was your scarf apricot?

Wow, another cogent post from our loser salesman, who hates his job. Must really suck to live like you. LOL