Sunday, August 27, 2017

Open Mic Sunday - Going to the State Fair!

Where everything to eat is now on a stick... 

187 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Racism squared.

Trump and Arpaio became brothers in arms five years ago. As they saw it, the two provocateurs — one a celebrity real estate developer, the other a polarizing sheriff — were pursuing justice in the form of supposed evidence that Obama’s birth certificate was fraudulent.

As caretakers of the false “birther” conspiracy, Trump and Arpaio relentlessly probed Obama’s birth in Hawaii and nurtured a lie to damage the legitimacy of the nation’s first African American president.

“There was no collusion,” Arpaio said in an interview Saturday. “I started my birth certificate investigation around the same time he did his.”

Not FAKE NEWS

Commonsense said...

And now a break from the usual insane ranting.

Weather Channel Meteorologist Rescues American Flag from Harvey

Loretta said...

"I have a life." - says the drunkard

Obviously not.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Insults and Alzheimer's disease is tragic.

Loretta said...

"I have a life." - says the drunkard

Obviously not.

Anonymous said...

"I have a life" so says the self abuser that needed another human to die.
You act as if you should get an award.
$750,000 opm for your bills.
Your are so wealthy yet you bill the tax payers. Which makes you two perfect t socialist.

Anonymous said...

Have a blast at the fair, real people raising kids with great work ethic with the reaspossibility of feeding and clothing people in the US and around the world.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's called Medicare. I paid every single week for over 40 years. It's insurance, look it up. Most people don't use as much as I am. It saved my life. That's what it was created.

Reagan said it would destroy the medical care. It works perfectly for millions of Americans. I suggest that if you get a catastrophic disease, go ahead and leave a debt of catastrophic dimensions to your family. Or be a typical hypocritical Republican and use Medicare.

Anonymous said...

Odd, for forty years you where paid weakly?

Anonymous said...

Alky ever single time you post on anything about money, you fail epically.
Your mind limits you . Your can only think of two options, think monkey, think.

There are at least two other options , can you name them?

I can.

Myballs said...

Headbaked, You belittle real racism with this shit you keep posting.

No it is not. So piss off.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I belittle racism? Should I prompt it like the President?

Sessions said that "The President speaks for himself." In regards to the pardon. He is getting slammed by all sides, except for the Trumpism infected people here.

Anonymous said...

Limited life Hb, got the other two insuance options yet?

You are a perfect liberal, under informed.

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...
I belittle racism?
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yeah alky, you do.

the only racist angle of the birther controversy was a figment of your mentally ill imagination.

Anonymous said...

We know President Trump is doing a fantastic job in response to the Hurricane. This FEMA got up to speed early. Texas Govenor is rocking it. THE people of Texas are showing the very best in humanity toward each other.

Anonymous said...

Blogger KD said...
We know President Trump is doing a fantastic job in response to the Hurricane. This FEMA got up to speed early. Texas Govenor is rocking it. THE people of Texas are showing the very best in humanity toward each other.
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the mayor of houston otoh, is a complete stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

telling residents NOT to evacuate.

imbecile.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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commie said...

While Trump ran for president, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a Trump Tower in Moscow

The Trump Organization was pursuing the plan in late 2015 and early 2016, according to several people familiar with the proposal and new records reviewed by the company's lawyers. As part of the discussions, a Russian-born real estate developer urged Donald Trump to come to Moscow to tout the proposal and suggested he could get President Vladimir Putin to say “great things” about Trump, according to several people who have been briefed on his


Donnie is and was always looking out for himself....when will the populace wake up and realize he does not give 2 craps about you supporters???????/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

King Donald I acted on Friday, while the news on hurricane Harvey dominated the news cycle, acted:
1: Issued a pardon for his loyal racist, and and Birther, Arpaio.
2: Issued an order that will deport hundreds of thousands Americans who were children when their parents entered the United States illegally.. Even if they have been integrated into the country, and are in effect, Americans, many don't even speak Spanish, and have no friends and family in Mexico or other central American states.
3: He issued the order that people who by birth, happen to be transsexual will be banned from serving in our loyal and brave military forces.

Tillerson when questioned on the ruling, he said "The President speaks for himself."

Secretary Maddox said to the troops,"Hold the line" in regards to American values.

His top two cabinet members, Secretary of State and Defense, publicly spoke the truth, that we are all born with equal rights. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

King Donald Trump I does not believe Declaration of independence, or the Separation of Powers between the Congress, the courts and the Presidency.

We are facing the worst Constitutional conflict in the history of the United States of America. We must talk to our representatives, and demand them to speak out in opposition to the President.

Anonymous said...


Secretary Maddox
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who???

since when did the senate confirm a secretary maddox, alky???



"King Donald Trump I does not believe Declaration of independence, or the Separation of Powers between the Congress, the courts and the Presidency."

i would expect one making that claim to serve up at least a little bit of evidence.



"We are facing the worst Constitutional conflict in the history of the United States of America."



Five Constitutional crises that actually existed:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-constitutional-crises-that-actually-existed




peel your liver transplanted ass off the fainting couch, alky. your post election butthurt over hillary 'not by a landslide' ain't even close to a crisis, constitutional or otherwise.

being your age with a mortgage... now THAT'S a fucking crisis.




Anonymous said...

While Trump ran for president, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a Trump Tower in Moscow
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holy fucking shit!!!

do you mean to tell me that a global real estate developer was attempting to...

GASP!!!

...develop a piece of real estate somewhere on the globe?!?!?!

this is serious.

does the double top secret "constitutional crisis committee to impeach trump" know about this???

does secretary maddox???


Anonymous said...

Alky fainted

Anonymous said...

Here is your smelling salts.

COMMIE said...


do you mean to tell me that a global real estate developer was attempting to..

Holy shit, yer still a moron!!!!!! I guess you can say that he didn't think he would win Just another connection in the matrix of collusion for muller to follow. Great news for donnie,.......LOL

Anonymous said...

Alky just can't answer my question , ok. I will just put this in the file of things you didn't know and I took the time to educate you.
1, self insure
2, pay for private insurance forgoing MediScare

Anonymous said...

Law Enforcement aka (LEO's), EMT's , Firefighters in Texas. An extra thank you.

commie said...

KD said...
Alky just can't answer my question , ok.



OKAY....so fucking what.....does that change your miserable life in any way????? Sure hope you don't suffer a catastrophic illness which will bankrupt your sorry ass. Idiot....

commie said...

Law Enforcement aka (LEO's), EMT's , Firefighters in Texas. An extra thank you.

You actually think any of those people visit this sorry site????? Yer more delusional than I thought......!!!!!

Commonsense said...

You have a problem thanking first responders Opie?

Maybe you think they are all racist pigs that should be shot like the good leftist you are.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Get your Collective heads out of your ass and contribute. Put your money where the f****** mouth is assholes.

http://www.redcross.org/about-us/our-work/disaster-relief/flood-relief

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Senseless hit your f****** head out of your ass and contribute instead of being like a total jerk. People every race or helping each other in the flood they don't care about the color of the skin or the language they speak it just helping other people including the police so shut the fuk up and put your money where their mouth is a******.
http://www.redcross.org/about-us/our-work/disaster-relief/flood-relief

caliphate4vr said...

Put down the opiates liver

Why do you have to make EVERYTHING racial?

You're fucking boring and gibberish flows

Commonsense said...

I don't do the red cross anymore because all the money goes to the head of the red cross and her minions.

But if you foolishly want to donate to them, be my guess.

But I suspect you won't be either donating any money or time to assist the victims in Texas.

Like the perfect hypocrite you are, you demand of others the things you would never do yourself.

As for me, I'll put my money on samaritan's purse, at least I'll know the money is going where it's suppose to be going.

Anonymous said...

Always so far behind on everything. Do try much harder to keep up.

Anonymous said...

😴

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Anonymous said...

Alky are you giving blood like my wife and I are today?

Commonsense said...

The Alky is great a telling other people what to do but never follows through on his own.

And he ought to be grateful. He owes his life the quite a lot of people he deems "selfish".

Starting with to person who died so he can have a liver.

Anonymous said...

PRES. Trump has 50 % of the US COAST GUARD rescue helo's in Texas. Texas GOV. has been awesome, work ethic is a story of courage and faith.

Anonymous said...

You noticed that too.

Alky is a financial disaster, people of his ilk, have nothing to give, they consume all they control. Hell the Alky has a mortgage on a 1100 sq foot garage and as another blogger put it that at his very advanced age is tragically stupid.

commie said...

. Texas GOV. has been awesome, work ethic is a story of courage and faith.

Awesome because he's doing his job? I guess you have a really low bar.... I guess telling people what to do is awesome on your loser farm

commie said...


Alky is a financial disaster, people of his ilk, have nothing to give

And what data do you have to back that statement, asshole!!!! Hollow words from a vacant mind....idiot...

commie said...

foolishly want to donate to them, be my guess.

Be your guess?????? Too funny...

James said...

Fascism, American Style

Paul Krugman: “As sheriff of Maricopa County, Ariz., Joe Arpaio engaged in blatant racial discrimination. His officers systematically targeted Latinos, often arresting them on spurious charges and at least sometimes beating them up when they questioned those charges. Read the report from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, and prepare to be horrified.

“Let’s call things by their proper names here. Arpaio is, of course, a white supremacist. But he’s more than that. There’s a word for political regimes that round up members of minority groups and send them to concentration camps, while rejecting the rule of law: What Arpaio brought to Maricopa, and what the president of the United States has just endorsed, was fascism, American style.”
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And yes, I will say this before some of you do: We DID regrettably practice a form of American fascism and racism toward Japanese American citizens under FDR.

commie said...

KD said...
Alky are you giving blood like my wife and I are today?

Liar...

commie said...

Commonsense said...
You have a problem thanking first responders Opie?

Here???? You are a joke also.....Idiot I speak with my wallet, unlike you with worthless opinions and words....

caliphate4vr said...

Oh look the pederast is c&ping the same stupid shit on multiple threads

WaPo said...

Trump Sought Moscow Deal While Running for President

“While Donald Trump was running for president in late 2015 and early 2016, his company was pursuing a plan to develop a massive Trump Tower in Moscow, according to several people familiar with the proposal and new records reviewed by Trump Organization lawyers,” the Washington Post reports.

“As part of the discussions, a Russian-born real estate developer urged Trump to come to Moscow to tout the proposal and suggested he could get President Vladimir Putin to say ‘great things’ about Trump.

“The details of the deal, which have not previously been disclosed, provide evidence that Trump’s business was actively pursuing significant commercial interests in Russia at the same time he was campaigning to be president — and in a position to determine U.S.-Russia relations.”

cowardly king obama said...

I thought Roger was going to study why Arpaio was refused a jury trial but apparently he didn't as he continues to attack the pardon.

Here's some insight:

"Arpaio was cleverly denied a jury of his peers, a jury comprised of Arizona citizens beset by illegal aliens and the crimes they commit, according to National Center for Police Defense (NCPD) President James Fotis, who was present in the courtroom, and was highly skeptical a Phoenix jury could have ever found Arpaio guilty. He told Breitbart News:


“I sat through three days of testimony and it was clear from the beginning that the DOJ had no evidence to make their case. In fact, all of the DOJ’s witnesses made it clear that Judge Snow’s order was unclear and ambiguous. There is no way a jury would have determined that the Sheriff willfully and intentionally violated the judge’s order.”

As Investor’s Business Daily editorialized at the time, the decision to prosecute Joe Arpaio smacked of hypocrisy, injustice, and legal gymnastics involving one Thomas Perez, current foul-mouthed head of the Democratic National Committee and former Obama administration DOJ official"

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/rinos_wrong_on_arpaio.html

There's a bunch more there if you actually care to read the article or do any of your own research, as SVT has tried endlessly to have you do. We had a real constitutional crisis, but that was the last administration.

James said...

LOL Cali thinks 2 = multiple.
Failed math, eh?

cowardly king obama said...

SVT s/b CHT

and a bit more from that well reasoned article"

"Arpaio was found guilty by a Clinton-appointee after he was denied a trial by jury based on the relative minor nature of the charge, a misdemeanor punishable by six months in jail. The ruling reeks of politics, with the decision to prosecute Arpaio on profiling charges made by an incoming Obama administration bent on throwing open the nation’s borders to illegal aliens"

caliphate4vr said...

Definition of multiple
1
: consisting of, including, or involving more than one


Stupid old man

Anonymous said...

Actual, cali is right. And you are, your , you.

Anonymous said...

I told Jane that very thing.

Anonymous said...

Jane, I want to thank you for "outing" alky. He stole the work/words of Krugman.
You know 17,000 Dow Krugman.

Anonymous said...

There’s a word for political regimes that round up members of minority groups and send them to concentration camps, while rejecting the rule of law
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

indeed there is.

DEMOCRATS.


Anonymous said...

And yes, I will say this before some of you do: We DID regrettably practice a form of American fascism and racism toward Japanese American citizens under FDR.
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regrettably???

Fascist Delano Roosevelt is a patron saint of liberalism in good standing. were he alive today liberals would be lining up to drink his bath water.

regrettably. LOL. good one.

Amused, James said...

Roosevelt is considered by many (including Newt Gingrich)to have been one of our very GREATEST Presidents, and that in spite of his regrettable treatment of innocent Japanese American citizens.

Even Lincoln at one point advocated the returning of blacks to Africa -- until some blacks told him how they felt about that.

No one is perfect.

VERY amused, James said...

Rankings by Liberals and Conservatives
Rank

1
Abraham Lincoln (Liberals)
Abraham Lincoln (Conservatives)
2
Franklin D. Roosevelt (Liberals)
George Washington (Conservatives)
3
George Washington (Liberals)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (Conservatives)
4
Thomas Jefferson (Liberals)
Thomas Jefferson (Conservatives)
______________

Even conservatives rank FDR third after Lincoln and Washington.

That doesn't fit in with rat's warped view of the world.

Commonsense said...

Democrats don't like Asians very much. They are still trying to screw them on college admissions.

Old habits are hard to die.

Anonymous said...

HB, what health care insurance do you cover your wife woth, she is not on your medicare, unless she is disabled or as old as you.

Anonymous said...

My wife and I are back at our ranch after both of us gave blood. It was good to sèe so many of my fellow ranchers and farmers answering the call for Texans.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is 100% incorrect. The k'putz is still guaranteed stupid.

"Alky is a financial disaster, people of his ilk, have nothing to give, they consume all they control. Hell the Alky has a mortgage on a 1100 sq foot garage and as another blogger put it that at his very advanced age is tragically stupid."



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have said many times that the FDR imprisonment of Americans who were of Japanese descent was horrible and deeply racist. Millions of Americans of German descent, were not put in concentration camps. My family for example. rrb is trying to make the concentration camps by Sheriff Arpaio acceptable because of what FDR did eighty years ago.

Pathological liar and let the beaners rot, is the racist republican bastard

Anonymous said...

Hb, you said you have a mortgage, did you pay it off?

You said you live in a tint 1100 sq foot home, did you move or add on?

You told us you applied and began to draw on Social Security at age 62, the very worst time to draw taking a 25% reduction. Did you stop and repay the draws you took?

Anonymous said...

ETTE AND RRB, ALKY did it again.
Now his family was put in concentration camps.
HB, in what country?

Anonymous said...

rrb is trying to make the concentration camps by Sheriff Arpaio acceptable because of what FDR did eighty years ago.
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no alky. just relishing the hypocrisy of it all.

arpaio locked up criminals. criminals who had broken the law. some who had broken the law bigly. some just by their very presence of being here illegally.

FDR locked people up not for breaking any law. simply for being japanese.

racist on fucking stilts, was our FDR. and one of the most rank and despicable pieces of shit to every soil the fabric of our great nation.



Anonymous said...


LOL. poor alky...



Democratic Senator Chris Murphy asserted Monday that Trump cannot be impeached for fulfilling his campaign promises.

During an interview with WFSB, Murphy responded to claims from fellow Democratic lawmakers and pundits that Trump is mentally unfit for office.

“I don’t see President Trump acting any differently as president than he did during the campaign,” Murphy said. “His speeches as a president for these rallies are just as bizarre as they were as a candidate, so I haven’t really seen any change in behavior.”

Murphy contended that while he finds Trump’s behavior to be “bizarre,” Trump can’t be removed just because people don’t like that behavior.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/28/dem-sen-cant-impeach-trump-for-doing-what-he-said-he-would-do-video/

Loretta said...

"ETTE AND RRB, ALKY did it again.
Now his family was put in concentration camps."

He's drunk again.

Anonymous said...

Now his family was put in concentration camps.
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in houston. the day JFK was shot. right after he recited the magna carta from memory.

Anonymous said...




it appears that queef olbermann is following in the alky's footsteps...


https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/08/27/keith-olbermann-may-late-stages-furious-rabies-based-twitter-meltdown/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I don't own the house in Fullerton. I sold it for a healthy profit.

I didn't take SS early. My carpenter pension paid the amount of what I had gotten from Social Security, provided full health insurance until I went on Medicare.

I'm on Kaiser Permanente Senior Program. Max out of pocket is $4,400/ year. At a cost $125/month.

We make six figures, guaranteed for life.

We are very comfortable. And sorry fools, my hepatogist aka liver Doctor, said that I am improving much more rapidly than most. My copay was $10.

We are better off than most retirees. Go fuck Daisy, she mooooos you. Inherited false farmer. Kisses my ass.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Kiss my ass Loretta.

Five years three months and three days. One day at a time.

Loretta said...

"it appears that queef olbermann is following in the alky's footsteps..."

Remember when the drunkard wrote to Griffin ALL pissed off for firing this freak?

LOL.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Climate change?

Hurricane Harvey constitutes the third “500-year” flood in three years.

Its getting worse, and if it continues, mother nature will be accused of being anti-American/socialist..

Commonsense said...

Nope, there not enough data to exactly say what a 500 year flood looks like.

There's only enough data to determine what a 100 year flood is.

What we do know however, in size, rainfall and strength, Harvey is a fairly typical tropical storm.

The problem is that Harvey is stuck between two anticyclones so it can't go anywhere.

Therefore it will keep raining in the same place until the storm moves.

It's not climate change, it's just a random circumstance in the weather pattern.

Anonymous said...

Exactly

Loretta said...

Facts mean nothing to the emotional drunkard, CS.

He's parroting the Facebook meme of the day, " FEMA equals socialism" - while wearing a hot pink tutu.

Anonymous said...

Alky, you are the perfect liberal, your story changes every single time you get cornered.

Anonymous said...

So sad, we live our lives with our family and friends.

Alky lives in fear of a shot of Jack Daniels.

Anonymous said...

I saw on world news that Isis is still losing control of towns and land in Iraq. Alky declared Isis was no longer in Iraq.

Commonsense said...

Facts mean nothing to the emotional drunkard, CS.

Yeah, I know real science befuddles him.

Befuddles Opie too.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Even his own cabinet think he's nuts


Public rifts between Trump and some senior officials widen in the wake of Chancellorsville,

Over the weekend, Tillerson suggested that Trump “speaks for himself” rather than for the country’s values in his reaction to Charlottesville. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis also counseled U.S. troops to “hold the line until our country gets back to respecting each other” and is able to “get the power of inspiration back.”

I have to wonder when these patriots will say "fuck this" I can;t take any more of this shit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/public-rifts-between-trump-and-some-senior-officials-widen-in-the-wake-of-charlottesville/2017/08/28/eb516d2a-8c06-11e7-84c0-02cc069f2c37_story.html?utm_term=.ff5678ebd94a

THE REAL NEWS.

Democracy Dies In Darkness.




wphamilton said...

There's only enough data to determine what a 100 year flood is.

There is no such thing scientifically as a "100 year flood" nor a "500 year flood", because these events are not cyclical in nature. People look back and say, this was the biggest flood in 100 years, and then they look back for a big flood in the 100 years before that, and they fool themselves into thinking there is some timing to it.

There is not only "not enough data", there is NO data to determine what something "is" that doesn't even exist.

Roger's point is that we've had several extreme weather events in a much shorter time frame than previously known. Your objection is meaningless.

cowardly king obama said...

Twitch posted a 2008 SNL skit

Shows Democratic drama hasn't changed a bit, even use same lines:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/n12348?snl=1

ROFLMFAO



Commonsense said...

Roger's point is that we've had several extreme weather events in a much shorter time frame than previously known. Your objection is meaningless.

Statistically the number of extreme weather events has been no more nor any less than any other decade in the last century.

So not only is your condescending remark patiently offensive, it is demonstrably unscientific.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I was speculating, bur that flies right over your empty head.

Commonsense said...

And your speculation was totally without any basis in fact and therefore not worth the number of bytes it took to store on this server.

That flew over your gin addled head.

wphamilton said...

Here you go commonsense https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/cei/graph

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Most reliable climate scientists have said that climate change will lead to more intense and frequent storms. But you don't believe in science.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

there is a steep clime in the number and intensity of rainfall over the last thirty years.

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Anonymous said...

Roger now tells us that the world has more water. Priceless.

So you no longer live in a 1100 sq foot home with a mortgage?

Anonymous said...

Why I know bulls are smarter then liberals.
An anti bull fighting pajama wearing nancy boy jumped in to the arena , the bull promptly gored him.

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

So you no longer live in a 1100 sq foot home with a mortgage.

K'putz, I sole the Fullerton house in 2013.

It's worth over $450,000. I should have kept it as a rental. But it's pain in the ass

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump Associate Boasted That Moscow Business Deal ‘Will Get Donald Elected’

WASHINGTON — A business associate of President Trump promised in 2015 to engineer a real estate deal with the aid of the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, that he said would help Mr. Trump win the presidency.

The associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of emails to Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in which he boasted about his ties to Mr. Putin. He predicted that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would highlight Mr. Trump’s savvy negotiating skills and be a political boon to his candidacy.

“Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-tower-putin-felix-sater.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fpolitics&action=click&contentCollection=politics&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=9&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0

Of sours, their lawyers said NO BIG DEAL. But it just drips drips and drips. Soon to be followed by a Washington Hurricane?


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The real reason Trump is not a Republican

John C. Danforth was a Republican U.S. senator from Missouri from 1976 to 1995.

Many have said that President Trump isn’t a Republican. They are correct, but for a reason more fundamental than those usually given. Some focus on Trump’s differences from mainstream GOP policies, but the party is broad enough to embrace different views, and Trump agrees with most Republicans on many issues. Others point to the insults he regularly directs at party members and leaders, but Trump is not the first to promote self above party. The fundamental reason Trump isn’t a Republican is far bigger than words or policies. He stands in opposition to the founding principle of our party — that of a united country.

We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, and our founding principle is our commitment to holding the nation together. This brought us into being just before the Civil War. The first resolution of the platform at the party’s first national convention states in part that “the union of the States must and shall be preserved.” The issue then was whether we were one nation called the United States or an assortment of sovereign states, each free to go its own way. Lincoln believed that we were one nation, and he led us in a war to preserve the Union.

That founding principle of the party is also a founding principle of the United States. Even when we were a tiny fraction of our present size and breadth, the framers of our Constitution understood the need for holding ourselves together, whatever our differences. They created a constitutional structure and a Bill of Rights that would accommodate within one nation all manner of interests and opinions. Americans honor that principle in the national motto on the presidential seal: “e pluribus unum” — “out of many, one.” Today, the United States is far more diverse than when we were a nation of 3 million people , but the principle remains the same: We are of many different backgrounds, beliefs, races and creeds, and we are one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-exactly-what-republicans-are-not/2017/08/24/9909a320-8832-11e7-a50f-e0d4e6ec070a_story.html?utm_term=.fa6b0bb343ff

He's better than Lincoln here.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is the truth and why at times in the past I voted for some Republicans. But that party is gone to hell with Trump.

We are the party of Abraham Lincoln, and our founding principle is our commitment to holding the nation together. This brought us into being just before the Civil War. The first resolution of the platform at the party’s first national convention states in part that “the union of the States must and shall be preserved.” The issue then was whether we were one nation called the United States or an assortment of sovereign states, each free to go its own way. Lincoln believed that we were one nation, and he led us in a war to preserve the Union.

That founding principle of the party is also a founding principle of the United States.

Loretta said...

Nothing but spam from the drunkard, as usual.

Commonsense said...
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Commonsense said...

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/cei/graph

Well first off WP giving a graph without context is just showing a pretty picture.

And while I loath to use an ad hominem argument, NOAA's deliberate manipulation of the raw temperature data set is well known and has been debated on this site and elsewhere.

And as dramatic as some alarmist want to portray the data, it is still within a standard derivation from the mean.

Or put it in historical context. At landfall Hurricane Harvey was just as intense and severe a storm as the 1900 Galveston hurricane was.

The only diffrence is our abilities to detect, and track the storm and to warn people to get out of the way.

Anonymous said...

NOV 9th, 2016 at about 3 am central time the End of the Republic of the USA began. It died on that date and time because a lifelong Democratic turned Republican was elected by the people of the United States under the well established law.

HB ilk have the solution, remove by any means the lawful elected President.

Anonymous said...

Dear HB, you sold a home for 450000 dollars, congrates.
Still unexplained by you is how with that sale you are in debt. And how you live in a garage size home of 1100 sq feet. By the way, you put that information on this blog. I did not go to the open records of CA and do a name search in the registration of deeds and find your holging, then secure the name of your bank that hold your title/deed to your hobble.

All is public record.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are obsessed you six stupid son of a b****. I did not say that I set sell it for $450,000 and because you're so f****** stupid go ahead and look it up could I did not I did not sell it for that much it's worth that much now and I probably should have held on to it but go fuc go f*** yourself and go say hi to a cow you obsessed stupid piece of s***

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Most reliable climate scientists have said that climate change will lead to more intense and frequent storms. But you don't believe in science.

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"Science predicted an eclipse. Technology revealed an approaching storm. But climate science didn't predict 12 years without a major hurricane."

—Twitter satirist @hale_razor

Anonymous said...

But you don't believe in science.
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says the assclown who belongs to the party that would have us believe there are 59 genders instead of only 2.

and he lives in a state that will jail a person for using the wrong pronoun to address someone.

now that's all pretty sciencey, alky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump Attorney Discussed The Trump Tower In Moscow During The Campaign.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-attorney-says-they-discussed-moscow-tower-deal-during-campaign-1503955486

The President has stated that he knew nothing about the deal during the campaign.

Anonymous said...

Alky because you sold it under market to fund your alcoholic soaked life style is on you. Just further evidence of how broke and broke you are.
You bring all these issues here to this blog, you feel that you need to share all of your life here. Don't blame me for your drunken rants and financial failures and a life time of alcohol fueled missteps financially.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sheriff Arpaio pleaded guilty of all charges against him, by accepting the pardon.

Anonymous said...

Today, "not my president" goes to Texas.

Anonymous said...

RRB ,NASA on both voyager deep space probes so the human condition as one male and one female.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In 1915, the Supreme Court indeed said, of pardons, that “acceptance” carries “a confession of” guilt. Burdick v. United States (1915). Other courts have echoed that since.

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...
Sheriff Arpaio pleaded guilty of all charges against him, by accepting the pardon.
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LOL. ok alky.

sheriff joe was convicted of criminal contempt, and was pardoned of same.

acceptance of the pardon changed nothing regarding the charge or the conviction.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Good for "beaners"

An ongoing heatwave in Phoenix, Arizona is so extreme that flights out of the region have been cancelled. But inmates at Tent City, a notorious outdoor jail, are expected to endure conditions too dangerous for jet planes.
The Tent City began as an overflow site for Maricopa County, Arizona’s already-packed jails. The fenced-in facility has housed up to 1,700 inmates outdoors in canvas tents, where temperatures ranged well above and below safe limits, earning the condemnation of human rights organizations. For more than two decades, the lockup’s founder, infamous former Maricopa Sheriff Joe Arpaio appeared to revel in the criticism, at one point publicly joking that Tent City was a “concentration camp”. When Arpaio lost his 2016 reelection bid, his successor pledged to dismantle the facility by the end of 2017.
But while heat wave temperatures soar to 120 degrees Fahrenheit and Phoenix officials warn locals to remain inside, hundreds of Tent City inmates remain confined outdoors.

Anonymous said...

i caught the alky lying again...


2. On the other hand, a pardon has historically been seen as serving several different functions, one of which is protecting people who were convicted even though they were legally innocent. In the words of Justice Joseph Story, the most respected early commentator on the Constitution (writing in 1833),

There are not only various gradations of guilt in the commission of the same crime, which are not susceptible of any previous enumeration and definition; but the proofs must, in many cases, be imperfect in their own nature, not only as to the actual commission of the offence, but also, as to the aggravating or mitigating circumstances. In many cases, convictions must be founded upon presumpions and probabilities.

Would it not be at once unjust and unreasonable to exclude all means of mitigating punishment, when subsequent inquiries should demonstrate, that the accusation was wholly unfounded, or the crime greatly diminished in point of atrocity and aggravation, from what the evidence at the trial seemed to establish? A power to pardon seems, indeed, indispensable under the most correct administration of the law by human tribunals; since, otherwise, men would sometimes fall a prey to the vindictiveness of accusers, the inaccuracy of testimony, and the fallibility of jurors and courts.

Indeed, some pardons expressly state that they are based on the pardoner’s decision that the defendant was actually innocent; and some legal rules expressly contemplate that — consider, for instance, the federal statute that provides for compensation of the unjustly convicted, which allows a plaintiff to prevail by showing (among other things) “that he has been pardoned upon the stated ground of innocence and unjust conviction.” UPDATE: The Justice Department Standards for Consideration of Clemency Petitioners also expressly contemplate the possibility of “pardon on grounds of innocence or miscarriage of justice,” though they unsurprisingly note that such applicants “bear a formidable burden of persuasion” (since the Justice Department’s strong presumption is that people convicted in federal court were indeed justly convicted).

3. Another function of a pardon has historically been protecting people who were seen as legally guilty but morally innocent. Returning to Story,

Besides; the law may be broken, and yet the offender be placed in such circumstances, that he will stand, in a great measure, and perhaps wholly, excused in moral and general justice, though not in the strictness of the law. What then is to be done? Is he to be acquitted against the law; or convicted, and to suffer punishment infinitely beyond his deserts?

Conviction followed by a pardon, Story argues, is a means of making sure the law is followed, but that “moral and general justice” is nonetheless served.

Anonymous said...

4. Of course, pardons have also been seen as having various other functions as well, such as decreasing the punishment of someone who is legally and morally guilty, for instance when “the situation and circumstances of the offender, though they alter not the essence of the offence, ought to make [a] distinction in the punishment” (Story’s words again). Sometimes the pardoning statement explains the pardoner’s reasons for the pardon; sometimes it doesn’t. And the beneficiaries of the pardon may of course disagree with the reasons given, even if they agree that a pardon is proper.

Legal authorities, then, are split on the subject of how the law should understand pardons; but because some pardons are understood as being based on the pardoned person’s factual innocence, I doubt that any judge today would genuinely view acceptance of pardon as always being an admission of guilt. And my sense (though I realize that it might be mistaken) is that most people’s moral judgment today would be that, even if a pardon is offered just as a gesture of mercy and not as exoneration, the recipient may honorably accept it even if they continue to deny their factual guilt or their moral guilt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/?utm_term=.9915c20e6c46

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He pleaded guilty by accepting the pardon.

Your constant dementia is apparently untreatable.

Anonymous said...

But while heat wave temperatures soar to 120 degrees Fahrenheit and Phoenix officials warn locals to remain inside, hundreds of Tent City inmates remain confined outdoors.
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don't do the crime and you won't do the time, alky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Yes I that.

But most constitutional lawyers State clearly that he pleaded guilty when they when he accepted the pardon. look it up you demented poor sad and pathetic loser. Mister let them rot in the desert you hate filled piece of s***

Anonymous said...

Daily KOS blames Trump, because he exited the Paris climate accord.

I love reading the views of the deeply flawed liberal.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
He pleaded guilty by accepting the pardon.
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no he didn't.

unless you can produce a copy of the pardon that includes a guilty plea, you are, as always, full of fucking shit.




"Legal authorities, then, are split on the subject of how the law should understand pardons; but because some pardons are understood as being based on the pardoned person’s factual innocence, I doubt that any judge today would genuinely view acceptance of pardon as always being an admission of guilt. And my sense (though I realize that it might be mistaken) is that most people’s moral judgment today would be that, even if a pardon is offered just as a gesture of mercy and not as exoneration, the recipient may honorably accept it even if they continue to deny their factual guilt or their moral guilt."

- Eugene Volokh teaches free speech law, religious freedom law, church-state relations law, a First Amendment Amicus Brief Clinic, and an intensive editing workshop at UCLA School of Law, where he has also often taught copyright law, criminal law, tort law, and a seminar on firearms regulation policy.


Volokh teaches law.

you, otoh, are nothing but the self-proclaimed great orator of the local strip mall AA meeting. an inspiration to piss drunk losers everywhere.






Anonymous said...

RRB, did you take alky's booze away from him? He is very angry.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are wrong again they had not been convicted of a single crime they're being held against their fourth amendment rights. But that is far beyond your rational ability to think. Hate dominate your thought process so it blinds you to the truth

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

All I'm doing today is stating the cold hearted truth and that seems to be bothering the Kansas idiot and the hate-filled little piece of s*** from from New York

Anonymous said...

But most constitutional lawyers State clearly that he pleaded guilty when they when he accepted the pardon.
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most?

really?

name one. just one. we'll let the claim of "most" slide for now.

one name, alky.

cough it up.

all you did was snip a piece from the same wapo column that i posted (with attribution) in its entirety.

Anonymous said...

RRB, yes you caught him lying, HB does it everyday.

Anonymous said...

You are wrong again they had not been convicted of a single crime they're being held against their fourth amendment rights.
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dumb fuck,

you don't have to be convicted of a crime to be held in jail.

ask anyone who has been accused, arrested, arraigned, and had bail denied.


geezus, you are so fucking stupid it is actually painful to watch.



Anonymous said...

Blogger KD said...
RRB, did you take alky's booze away from him? He is very angry.
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what's left of his ability to reason is unraveling before our eyes. morbidly fascinating in a way, because we are getting a glimpse into the depths of severe mental illness from a safe distance.

kinda like 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest' only live and in real time.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I actually read the decision to the completion. But most people in the legal business accept that decision is an admission of guilt not everybody of course it's a law. But he proudly proclaim the his concentration camps were good way to handle the poor Mexicans that were taking over the country! And let us not forget the major reason for the pardon is Arpaio agreed with the birther movement which is basically racist at its core. Which of course you believed for years. "We couldn't have a n***** in the White House"!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

So let me make this clear. Let's say your son was arrested and charged with a minor felony or even just a strong misdemeanor and bail was denied and he was stuck in a camp with 110-degree temperatures with no access to shelter air conditioning or other reasonable conditions.

Your dementia is terminal!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

And you obviously did not read The Wall Street Journal story did you?

It is a devastating destruction of your Mr President . Donald J Trump

Anonymous said...

"MOST"

US Censues shows over 1.3 million lawyers. Let's say 10 % are constitutional experts.

HB has a link with the opinion of 51 % of those lawyers issuing a written opinion on the Sheriff Joe Presidential pardon.

Anonymous said...

Now it is "most in the legal business" so now you have 650,000 written opinions with links.

commie said...

"US Censues shows"

US censues?????? Shows that you are nothing but a sychopant...... Nice try but another FAIL!!!!

Anonymous said...

Not my President gives tax relief to all Texans. 45 ordered the IRS to give extension s to businesses and sole properties that quarterly estimated taxes do not need to be paid for now. Nor are tax returns due now that received authorized extensions.

Anonymous said...

"Cajun Navy" we are all Texans.

God forbid that this moves into NOLA.

Anonymous said...

Hi Mr Opie. How are you and Yours today.

Commonsense said...

Roger will be shocked to discover that there's no constitutional right to an air conditioned cell.

It's is significant that for all the leftist hysteria there was never a successful legal challenge to the tent city itself.

commie said...

he IRS to give extension s to businesses and sole properties that quarterly estimated taxes do not need to be paid for now

While Rome burns, he gives aid to those who may have lost everything....WOW!! What a prince of a guy....wonder how many billions this will cost those who had no flood insurance, which appears to be 80+% of the people.....Idiot

commie said...

Commonsense said...
Roger will be shocked to discover that there's no constitutional right to an air conditioned cell.

Message to menstra.....I'd bet he knows that....and your point is?????? It's hot in the desert and those being incarcerated deserve nothing more than a Bologna sandwich and and out side cot in a tent....Too bad you aren't there!!!

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...
So let me make this clear.
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as you waste our time with some meaningless hypothetical.

the fact is alky is that arpaio's situation was entirely politically motivated in its breadth and scope, from the original civil case to to its eventual criminal case. it deserved no less of a political response which trump happily gave.

had it not been entirely politically motivated joe would've been charged criminally from the start, and afforded a proper jury trial.

the left railroaded his ass because they were concerned that their precious little undocumented democrats might be a wee bit uncomfortable as they sat on the WRONG side of the border. a border that they willfully and knowingly crossed ILLEGALLY.

so, shove your hypotheticals up your liver transplanted ass, you fucking loser.



Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
And you obviously did not read The Wall Street Journal story did you?
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no alky, i did not. and since it's likely behind a paywall i doubt you did either.

what you likely read was kevin drum's or slate's summary of it, which i'm sure was as intellectually dishonest as they usually are.

commie said...

I'm trying to remember which idiot posted that the hurricane models were a joke and not accurate...Gee, I wonder what that idiot now thinks??????

When we first saw the model predictions last week of widespread rain amounts for Houston of 15 – 25 inches, with some amounts as high as 40 inches, we issued the required “Catastrophic rains coming” forecast, but our view of the forecast was tinged with a sense of unreality. Could the models be wrong? What would that kind of rainfall would do to Houston? Surely the heavy rains wouldn’t center directly over the nation’s fourth-largest city, would they? But they did. Here we are, in the midst of a mega-disaster on the scale only surpassed by Hurricane Sandy and Hurricane Katrina in recent decades, from a hurricane hazard we’ve never seen on such a large and destructive scale—torrential rain. The damages from Harvey will undoubtedly run into the tens of billions of dollars, making Harvey’s rains the most destructive ever experienced from a hurricane.

Yeah, dumbass, Noaa et al pretty well hit the mark....

Anonymous said...

And let us not forget the major reason for the pardon is Arpaio agreed with the birther movement which is basically racist at its core.
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unless you can factually illustrate a direct connection here you are a liar.

and please, once and for all, tell us what's racist about questioning the country of someone's birth. you throw the race card around more often than the entire staffs of the CBC and NAACP combined.



commie said...

The logic behind not evacuating houston....for the simple minded amongst us.....it was a disaster for rita with many killed.....

looded streets on Monday, it became increasingly evident that Mr. Turner’s decision not to order a mandatory evacuation in the face of Hurricane Harvey was the most significant move of his first 20 months in office, and perhaps his long political career. Though criticized from afar, the decision was praised by many Houston officials and residents who remember the disaster that unfolded before Hurricane Rita in October 2015, when local officials called an evacuation that put 3.7 million people in sweltering, hourlong traffic jams that resulted in more than 100 deaths.

Yep, monday morning quarterbacking is easy for weak minded farmers....

Anonymous said...

Anonymous commie said...
I'm trying to remember which idiot posted that the hurricane models were a joke and not accurate...Gee, I wonder what that idiot now thinks??????
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if you're going to be out there sounding the warmyl cooling alarm, you should at least know the difference between a WEATHER model and a CLIMATE model.

fucking retard.

commie said...


unless you can factually illustrate a direct connection here you are a liar.

And you are an idiot.....Check out what idiot Joe said it july 2012 clear words of what he did and thought....

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-5-year-investigation-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95444730/

You really are uniformed and brain dead, rathole.....asshole

commie said...

you should at least know the difference between a WEATHER model and a CLIMATE model.

Well rathole....there was nothing in my post that alluded to GW....The models described by your brethren and criticized were hurricane models that were frighteningly accurate. But, that fact flew over your diminutive head....Asshole....Try to keep up.

Anonymous said...

Check out what idiot Joe said it july 2012 clear words of what he did and thought....
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that's nice. and from 5 fucking years ago no less.

now prove to us that trump pardoned him specifically because of that.

commie said...


that's nice. and from 5 fucking years ago no less.

Which unequivocally linked sheriff joe the asshole to birtherism..which is what you asked and now deny. You really are an idiot.......And again, you didn't read it being the lazy braindead punk you are....

wphamilton said...

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/cei/graph

Well first off WP giving a graph without context is just showing a pretty picture


Evidently you missed the links right above the selectors.

Introduction. Data Used, Definition, Graph, Regional Overview, References

I assume that a person will read the introduction, definitions, and data used if he wants more than a "pretty picture". Then read the References if you really are loath to simply dispute everything from the NOAA.

And no, the graph shows greater than a standard deviation (which wouldn't mean you should dismiss the data even were that true).

And finally, recording extreme events like hurricanes does not depend on nor vary due to technological advances in detection. It sounds like you're parroting certain criticisms of climatology without stopping to consider whether it's really applicable to the given data.

Anonymous said...

"HE GAVE AID TO THOSE THAT MIGHT HAVE LOST EVERYTHING" Mr. Opie

Commenting on Pres. Trump helping those in the flood effected area's

commie said...

Well first off WP giving a graph without context is just showing a pretty picture.

Well menstral, you did the exact same thing when you claimed there was growth in busch's last quarter. Dayum you are a hypocrite with WP cramming it up your pretty white ass....LOL

commie said...

KD said...
"HE GAVE AID TO THOSE THAT MIGHT HAVE LOST EVERYTHING" Mr. Opie

Commenting on Pres. Trump helping those in the flood effected area's


And once again...the idiot forgot the rest of the post....WOW!! What a prince of a guy....wonder how many billions this will cost those who had no flood insurance, which appears to be 80+% of the people.....Idiot Stupid goat fucker...

Anonymous said...

ENJOY YOUR ANTIFA PROTESTS, BECAUSE IT’S GOING TO GET AWKWARD SOON.




You see, there are quite a number of Democratic senators in Congress who are up for re-election next year. Our very own U.S. senator Bob Casey is considered vulnerable being located in a state that voted for President Trump. One of the most vulnerable Democratic senators in Congress is Missouri senator Claire McCaskill. Her state voted for Donald Trump by 57% to Hillary Clinton’s 38%. She has to desperately look as moderate as possible, her Republican attackers will put up ads “Clare’s people think every last one of you is a racist Nazi,” and pair photos of her in ballrooms with Nancy Pelosi set to dramatic music. See how this works?

This obviously has Democratic strategists in a pickle.

It’s very obvious what next year will be like. The worst footage from protest demonstrations will be put on display in campaign advertising and all the claims that Democratic pundits and authors have made claiming America is festooned with 64 million gas-chamber-murdering Nazis. Everyone who voted for Donald Trump is a Nazi. They’re all Nazis. Every fucking last one of them is a motherfucking Nazi.

There are few Republicans up for re-election in 2018 who are really vulnerable. Those 64 million Trump voters still have access to ballot machines and they can still vote. Calling every Trump voter a Nazi, as so many of you have done, is not going to be forgotten. That projection is going to come back to haunt people. It terrifies people who actually do politics as part of their career; namely pundits, campaign strategists and party officials. . . . You don’t need any more embarrassing YouTube video clips of AntiFa protestors chanting “NO USA AT ALL“.




I’ve noticed a sudden media pivot against Antifa in the last couple of days, which I assume means that someone has polled this stuff and it’s electoral poison for Democrats. Which should come as no surprise, unless you live in a Media Bubble.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/274172/#respond

Anonymous said...

Which unequivocally linked sheriff joe the asshole to birtherism..which is what you asked and now deny.
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no, fuckstick.

what i asked and what you avoid and what alky ran from is for you guys to show me...

a direct connection between joe's birtherism and trump's pardon of joe.

it's a correlation/causation thing.

illustrate for us unequivocally that trump pardoned joe because of birtherism.

bonus points if you can show a racist connection to the birther issue

Commonsense said...

I assume that a person will read the introduction, definitions, and data used if he wants more than a "pretty picture".

One would presume that the introduction, definitions, and data would be presented in a coherent manner.

They were not, and I don't have the time nor the inclination to decipher bureaucratic obfuscation.

commie said...


You see, there are quite a number of Democratic senators in Congress who are up for re-election next yea

RATHOLE the plagiarizer...what a complete douchebag who cannot think for himself and is too fucking lazy to provide the actual attribution. Typical of brain dead trumpsters.....LOL

Anonymous said...

Because I am an active environmentalist. I did a check of how this historic flood will effect the aquafiers of the effective flooding. Refilling is the answer. Great news for farmers/ranchers in the years to come.

Negative AG news from the National Cattleman's Association in which I am a legecy me member (thanks mom and dad). 10's of thousand of cattle may have been killed in these floods. Food stores of hay and grains have been lost. I have signed up on the site to donate large 1200 lbs round bales. We are all. TEXANS.

commie said...

One would presume that the introduction, definitions, and data would be presented in a coherent manner.

It was and WP handed you your ass....LOL

Anonymous said...

Terry McCaulliff, ask three times to condemn antifa, refused. He did say "blame is on bth sides".

WTF.... that is the Same thing Trump said.

Anonymous said...




wp, the issue is not with the charts, graphs, or underlying data. the issue is whether NOAA and their reporting can be trusted at all:


Former NOAA Scientist Confirms Colleagues Manipulated Climate Records

Feb 5, 2017 Press Release

WASHINGTON – U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science, Space, and Technology members today responded to reports about the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) 2015 climate change study (“the Karl study”). According to Dr. John Bates, the recently retired principal scientist at NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, the Karl study was used “to discredit the notion of a global warming hiatus and rush to time the publication of the paper to influence national and international deliberations on climate policy.”

https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records



to me, if you're a "climate scientist" whose income is derived either directly or indirectly from the government at any level, you can bet that my default position towards you and your findings is one of skepticism.


Anonymous said...

and is too fucking lazy to provide the actual attribution.
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here's the link AGAIN, asswipe -

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/274172/#respond


now go chamber a round and eat a pistol.


wphamilton said...

It was and WP handed you your ass....LOL

I don't mean to hand anyone their ass, but when I go to the trouble of showing a relevant composition of the data and someone snarks about "pretty picture" when all of the information is right in front of them, it's pretty annoying. That's not a discussion, it's just rote arguing.

wphamilton said...

rrb, you know what John Bate's issue is don't you? He had an issue with the way some data was handled - and yes, it was just an issue or technical disagreement then - was overruled by other scientists, passed over and then took an extreme position alleging fraud. You can do the math there.

The data he's concerned with was not, in fact, manipulated. The NOAA ocean analysis agreed with other independent temperature sets including satellite radiometers, float sensors and others.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said "all options are on the table" in response to North Korea after the isolated nation escalated tensions by firing a ballistic missile that passed over Japan.

"The world has received North Korea's latest message loud and clear: this regime has signaled its contempt for its neighbors, for all members of the United Nations, and for minimum standards of acceptable international behavior," Trump said in a statement.

"Threatening and destabilizing actions only increase the North Korean regime's isolation in the region and among all nations of the world. All options are on the table," he added.

The latest test puts the United States and its allies in a difficult spot as they aim to curb Pyongyang's nuclear and missile programs. They have aimed to pressure North Korea through international sanctions and other economic pressure from China, North Korea's only major ally.

Though the U.S. has said it prefers a diplomatic solution, Trump has previously left the door open for "all options." Earlier this month, Trump promised "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if North Korea continued to threaten the U.S. and its allies.

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This is the biggest test of his abilities in foreign affairs. We better hope that we are not going to wake up with the image of mushroom clouds over Seoul Korea, or Los Angeles. He stated recently that the Koreans are backing off. Apparently he misread the situation and let us all hope that the the Chinese actually act like they should because this could be a possible disaster of proportions that just dwarf our ability is to understand .

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/29/trump-says-all-options-are-on-the-table-for-north-korea-white-house.html

wphamilton said...

Also note that Bates is not claiming manipulation and fraud now.

"The issue here is not an issue of tampering with data, but rather really of timing of a release of a paper that had not properly disclosed everything it was," he said.

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060049630

Anonymous said...

US National cattle prices are up 2.6 over the last few days . The flooding effects 1.2 million head of cattle.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

rrb, I have an electronic connection to the Wall Street Journal New York Times and the Washington Post . I don't have a firewall on the way because I'm not stupid stupid like you. You have are pajama media and all that other right-wing BS and probably Breitbart because it's all free . But you're not smart enough to prescribe the real news because it would lead you to total confusion loss of your brain cells what little there are of them.

wphamilton said...

This is the biggest test of his abilities in foreign affairs. We better hope that we are not going to wake up with the image of mushroom clouds over Seoul Korea, or Los Angeles

And if we do, not to make light of potentially millions of fatalities, the climate change models all go out the window. It's a dark thought but you have to wonder if climate science deniers can fully comprehend the true potential of a nuclear exchange. This diplomatic isolation strategy, which hasn't worked for decades, is not enough to prevent it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Arpaio styled himself as "America's Toughest Sheriff".[2][3] Starting in 2005, he took an outspoken stance against illegal immigration. In 2010, he became a flashpoint for opposition to Arizona's SB1070 anti-illegal immigrant law, which was largely struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court.[4][5][6][7] Arpaio is also known for his investigation of former U.S. President Barack Obama's birth certificate, and, as of 2016, he continued to claim that it was forged.[8][9]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

1,2,3 times a liar.

Four months into his campaign for President of the United States, Donald Trump signed a “letter of intent” to pursue a Trump Tower-style building development in Moscow, according to a statement from the then-Trump Organization chief counsel, Michael Cohen.

The proposal would have involved construction of the world’s tallest building in Moscow, according to developers of the project.

The involvement of then-candidate Trump in a proposed Russian skyscraper deal contradicts repeated statements Trump made during the campaign, including telling ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that his business had “no relationship to Russia whatsoever.”

The disclosure from Cohen, who has described himself as President Trump’s personal lawyer, came as Cohen’s attorney gave congressional investigators scores of documents and emails from the campaign, including several pertaining to the Moscow development idea.

“Certain documents in the production reference a proposal for ‘Trump Tower Moscow,’ which contemplated a private real estate development in Russia,” Cohen’s statement says. “The decision to pursue the proposal initially, and later to abandon it, was unrelated to the Donald J. Trump for President Campaign.”

In a separate statement texted to ABC News, Cohen added that “the Trump Moscow proposal was simply one of many development opportunities that the Trump Organization considered and ultimately rejected.”

Cohen specifically says in his statement that Trump was told three times about the Moscow proposal.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-knew-moscow-tower-proposal-campaign-lawyer/story?id=49472342

Anonymous said...

President Trump had eggs Benidict for breakfast, akly says it proves this President is a Traitor.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
rrb, I have an electronic connection to the Wall Street Journal New York Times and the Washington Post .
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then do what you do best - copy/paste the WSJ article.

here's the thing - the WSJ has a paywall that actually works. the NYT and WaPo can be defeated with a google chrome incognito window.

put it up or shut up, alky.

Anonymous said...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
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someone needs to update that wiki to show the DIRECT CONNECTION between joe's birtherism and trump's pardon of him because of his birtherism.

let us know when you square that circle, alky.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
rrb, you know what John Bate's issue is don't you?
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i know the claims made by both sides.

and i also know that when there's a mountain of government cash on the table there's room for a very healthy does of skepticism with regards to their motivations.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It's a dark thought but you have to wonder if climate science deniers can fully comprehend the true potential of a nuclear exchange.

If the regulars here that are in total denial then they will welcome a mushroom cloud. I have a place in a New York City I think it is next to a lake. rrb you better duck! Incoming!!!!!!!!

commie said...

t when I go to the trouble of showing a relevant composition of the data and someone snarks about "pretty picture

You make a big presumption WP.....that they have a working brain....Our menstral child does not have one and many moons ago, he posted a pretty graph proving busch's economy was decreasing while claiming the graph showed growth...That is what you are dealing with and will never recognize being wrong.....Oh well, a good ass whipping in this case was well deserved.....

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
It's a dark thought but you have to wonder if climate science deniers can fully comprehend the true potential of a nuclear exchange.
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why am i not surprised that you are too stupid to distinguish between skepticism and denial?



commie said...

i not surprised that you are too stupid to distinguish between skepticism and denial?

Funny how you are too ignorant to know that difference since you are a denier and have never posted a cogent thought of your own on how GW is skeptical in your mind. Too lazy and stupid is what I think of your denier mantra...

commie said...

Looks like the donnie in chief has lost the NYDaily news....we all know who owns that.....rathole....

The borscht thickens.

As a candidate for President who refused to make his tax returns public, Donald Trump over and over again asked the American public to trust his insistence that he had no relationship with and no deals in Russia.

The assurance was necessary because of Trump’s bizarre penchant for, even as he insulted his way through the phone book, never having a bad word to say about Russian President Vladimir Putin.

We now know that the “nothing to do with Russia” line was simply untrue.

According to documents Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen handed over to congressional investigators, Cohen and Russian-American businessman Felix Sater — a convicted felon and longtime Trump associate — pressed to ink a deal on a Trump Tower Moscow in mid-2015, even as the presidential campaign was in motion.

Cohen admitted that in October 2015, he had Trump sign a letter of intent to license Trump’s name on the Moscow development, and discussed the project three times with his boss.

Nor were the Trump Organization’s ambitions in Moscow limited to mid-level business-to-business contact. When the project began to falter in early 2016, Cohen wrote to a Putin spokesman to try to get the Kremlin to intercede directly.


Why would a presidential candidate’s business minions seek to get Putin himself involved in a real-estate deal, and how might the pursuit of the project have contorted that candidate’s priorities? Could that contact have established lines of communications that morphed into potential collusion on election interference?

The hammer is about to fall on the liar and chiefs head.....He pardoned arpaio to get the best ratings on friday....yeah he gives a shit about little wimps like you rathole....

Anonymous said...

Today the US consumer put the lost years ever further in the rear view mirror clocking in the highest index number in 16 years.
#MAGA

Anonymous said...

Bass Pro Shop is chipping in with 60 boats to assist in Texas.

wphamilton said...

You make a big presumption WP.....that they have a working brain....

They all have a working brain. Everyone thinks that their opinions are at least reasonable, and that they have enough knowledge about the subject to have an opinion.

The problem is when someone decides that everyone who doesn't share that opinion must be full of it, and their minds snap shut. Trump's been unfairly reamed by the media, many times, and therefore everything critical is "fake news". That sort of thing. Easy trap to fall into.

Anonymous said...



don't assume that everyone's mind is snapped shut, wp. at my age i apply some simple rules before accepting whatever knowledge is being peddled as truth on any given day. "trust but verify" & "follow the money" are my two favorites. especially in today's age where liberals would often exchange what is politically correct for what is actually true. these are the same people whose stock in trade often revolves around something they call "my truth." i was raised to know that there is THE truth, not mine, yours or someone else's.

wphamilton said...

rrb, a few more. 90% of *everything* is bs. If you spot something hidden in someone's shadow look behind him. And perception is reality is always hiding a lie. (I made that one up)