Haven't the monthly increases been higher than this for every month this year? And DoL does not believe Harvey is contributing to this (that will show up in September's data).
One month could be the start of a trend, or it could be a blip, or (since these are preliminary numbers) could even be an inaccurate figure. Too soon to tell which.
The two previous reports were revised downward. By a small amount.
Harvey isn't going to help now. But the reconstruction and other efforts will create jobs. But enough to make a difference in the national economy, is unlikely.
Obama left behind an economy that had a record number of consecutive positive growth reports.
DOJ. No evidence of the alleged wiretapping claim by President Trump.
His series of tweets and other information is available here. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-02/no-evidence-trump-tower-was-wiretapped-justice-department-says
He never had any evidence, just another one of his "rages" that compel him to lash out in anger.
North Korea tested successfully a hydrogen bomb that they claimed will fit on one of their intercontinental ballistic missiles. President Trump has issued a condemnation of the test by North Korea. Details to follow. Be afraid very afraid.
Update: In a pair of tweets issued Sunday morning, President Trump wrote: "North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test. Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States... North Korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to China, which is trying to help but with little success."
TOKYO — North Korea sharply raised the stakes in its stand-off with the rest of the world Sunday, detonating a powerful nuclear device that it claimed was hydrogen bomb that could be attached to a missile capable of reaching the mainland United States.
Even if Kim Jong Un’s regime is exaggerating its feats, scientific evidence showed that North Korea had crossed an important threshold and had detonated a nuclear device that was exponentially more powerful than its last — and almost seven times the size of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.
"there's no doubt the intercepted both voice and data communications from people working in Trump Tower."
In your"mind". But there is absolutely no evidence of any surveillance as you're claiming none at all. It is your opinion and that's all it is everybody's got an a****** well you got an opinion and it's just about as worthless as you whatever part. Give us a break your thing you claim to be smart but you pull this out of your butt and with nothing to back it up other than just oh well well well well Obama did this Obama did that Obama did this and Obama did that because he did that you don't know s***.
"The Justice Department also said in the motion that it and the FBI "do not confirm or deny the existence" of any other records that are responsive to the group's request"
A new study examining the differences between "butt-fisting" injuries and those who engage in bestiality was written by a recipient of former President Barack Obama's Gold Service Award.
Animals may have the ability to consent, according to the researcher Damian Jacob M. Sendler, who recently released the study on "traumatic rectal injuries."
"Damian is a sexologist, research scientist, and physician-in-training," according to Sendler's website. He received Obama's service award for charitable work for elderly patients at New York Presbyterian Hospital.
"He is a recipient of several notable distinctions, including the United States President Barack Obama's Gold Service Award for humanitarian work, and United Nations in Asia Letter of Distinction for volunteering," the website adds.
isn't it ironic that a president who worked overtime to shove it up america's ass for 8 years would give an award to some clown who researched traumatic rectal injuries.
Because you can't have it both ways. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
oh yeah? next the alky will argue that 0linsky never personally sent a government agent dressed in a phony telephone company uniform and driving a phony telephone company truck to break into telephone closet and attach a recording device to certain telephone lines within the building.
They keep denying that the Tower was wiretapped. Specific individuals is a different story.
If someone was speaking to a rusisian delegate, and didn't know it was being monitored, You really shouldn't be working in govmt... I don't think semantics has anything to do with russians being monitored and a call being initiated in trump tower to a tapped line.....An interesting premise, with little impact..
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said on Thursday it plans to spend $10 million on advertising for the upcoming Obamacare open enrollment period that starts in November, a sharp cut from the $100 million spent last year.
The agency also said it will cut funding for so-called navigators, who help people enroll in Obamacare health insurance plans, by 41 percent to $36.8 million.
Advertising budget for Obamacare to be cut 90 percent: U.S. health agency
Can't get congress to do shit...he'll kill it anyway he can...Another disaster in the making.....Idiot Great leader he is....dividing the country into the rathole contingent and the rest...Let's see how that works out.....
Blogger Loretta said... YOUR words tell a different story.
Only ONE person here proclaimed a 14 year old hot.... ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
indeed.
to me, one of the creepier things about child molesters is that they feel no shame for their actions and remain strident when confronted. remember scott ritter? that piece of shit continued to hunt children while spreading a mountain of lies about the war in iraq. local cops nailed him attempting to prey on a child just a few miles from where i'm sitting.
Ritter was convicted on six counts, including felony unlawful contact with a minor. Sentenced to up to five and half years, he was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pa., in March 2012.
Records show that the Pennsylvania parole board in June concluded Ritter had demonstrated positive behavior; had a "motivation for success" and had completed the programs needed for release.
Under the terms of his parole, Ritter can't possess weapons, must refrain from alcohol, and has agreed to drug testing and "outpatient sex offender treatment." He can't have contact with anyone younger than 18 without approval from parole officials.
"to me, one of the creepier things about child molesters is that they feel no shame for their actions and remain strident when confronted. remember scott ritter?"
, so two other prior President's do nothing and nothing was done during the Lost years, you just said so.
Learn how to write or stop drinking so early....Yep, there was a whole lot of nothing under W, Clinton even less.....Trump is just words so far and hopefully will not ignite the nuclear fuze with the idiot of NK....There really is little to be done unless the chinese get heavily involved, and with trumps rhetoric, I do not hold much hope that the negotiator will be a moderating influence to get them to do something.....China is the only one that can bring them down.....
Republicans are the great dividers in this country....
If someone was speaking to a rusisian delegate, and didn't know it was being monitored, You really shouldn't be working in govmt..
Since the FISA laws specifically state that it is not generally legal for the U.S. Government to monitor foreign agents who have a strong likelihood of having correspondence with Americans... and completely illegal to use or release that information without redacting out the identify of the U.S. Citizen...
I guess you would only be naive to talk to an Ambassador if your expectations would be that our government follows those laws.
Of course, these laws were designed specifically to protect the privacy rights of American citizens above all else. A concept that appears uniquely hard to grasp by many on the left.
I didn't see that it was "West Texas", which is almost 400 miles from Houston.
But he was being an imbecile. When I grew up in West Texas we did have both parties there, visits from the candidates and so on. No one got into fights over it.
BTW 150K jobs is historically nothing to brag about. Currently, it may be keeping up with the labor force due to declining participation rates of some of the population.
150K used to be what we needed to keep up with population growth, WP... that was why it was always sort of the goal (or standard). They claim that in 2017 we only need to create approximately half that to keep up with the labor force... mostly due to the amount of baby boomers retiring and leaving the work force.
The government numbers I saw were around 100K jobs per month, when all is said and done. And when thinking in terms of labor force participation, I keep in mind almost a decade of under-employed and discouraged job seekers who gave up, many of whom will return to the job market as it improves. The relative quantity of those people is so significant that with job growth this slow, the labor force size is naturally going to trend to parity with the growth. We simply aren't counting all of those people NOT in the labor force, but who WILL be again as jobs increase. So 150K isn't terrible but it's also not cutting it.
Anonymous caliphate4vr said... How was your 5k wp?
The event was actually a week ago, the Mayors Corporate Challenge, and I wound up with 29:50, not fast of course but I was happy because it was my initial target goal. My run yesterday was just my weekly "long run", currently 6 miles, strangely at about the same pace as the 5K was so I'm still making progress.
I'm having to hold back, a lot, because increasing distance or speed too fast will injure my soft tissues. So it's a long game, we can't just run ourselves into shape like we could in our 20's.
I'm having to hold back, a lot, because increasing distance or speed too fast will injure my soft tissues. So it's a long game, we can't just run ourselves into shape like we could in our 20's.
Don't I know it. new men's rugby club in Alpharetta and I've decided I gotta lace on again. Last 15 minutes of Wednesday's practice was a modified HIT workout, I'm just now without a lot of pain. But damn it has been such a good pain....
Doing vinyasa yoga exclusively for the last 10 months or so, I'm getting so much more flexible but cardio has been the sacrifice
Opposite that for me, my cardio is pretty good but I wouldn't even try a HIIT workout yet, not running. I consider it a victory if I can get some muscle soreness without a ligament or joint complaining. I believe that just plugging away at it with threshold and long runs strengthens them though, and then increasing distance and some speed work is possible.
I used to coach my son's ice hockey team. A lot of skating in those twice a week pratices. I still going ice skating once a month. Yes, kansas has indoor ice hockey. I am not as fast, but it is still a lot of fun.
WP. Good for you. I am 61, I suspect your younger.
I've always been convinced that vinyasa is the most physiologically beneficial form BTW. I remember doing a very basic routine back in the 80's, no instruction and never anything more advanced but many hours. If anything I bet it will have helped your cardio once you train it up again.
Obama's letter to Trump when Trump took office has been leaked.
Dear Mr. President - Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.
This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don't know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.
First, we've both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It's up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard.
Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It's up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that's expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.
Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.
And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They'll get you through the inevitable rough patches.
Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.
Since the FISA laws specifically state that it is not generally legal for the U.S. Government to monitor foreign agents who have a strong likelihood of having correspondence with Americans.
And what is your point???? Where I worked, all phone calls were monitored and recorded. PERIOD! If you are speaking with a russian diplomat, I can guaranfuckingtee you his phone is monitored...as the flynn or kushner conversations that were leaked demonstrate. You have a problem with that????
Opie... Your own article claims that neither Trump or the meeting was monitored.
Neither the meeting nor the communications of Americans involved were under U.S. surveillance, officials said
Of course they have to say this, otherwise they are admitting breaking the law by monitoring American citizens. Their claim is that they were monitoring the Russian to Russian communication. Which would be legal.
So, yeah... I have a problem with your implications that Americans should expect that their communications are monitored. Doing so would be a violation of our constitutional rights and Federal law.
Personally I think we should not only monitor communications between citizens and Russian intelligence agents, I think we should post the audio on the internet. Obscuring the American's identity in accordance with the law.
our own article claims that neither Trump or the meeting was monitored.
My post did not mention either one....I was discussing flynn and kushner whose telecoms were leaked...Both should have known, especially flynn!!!!!
your implications that Americans should expect that their communications are monitored . It is not an implication, its fact. You use a cell phone, some is gonna hear it. You call the russian embassy....it is going to be monitored whether you like it or not, you don't count.....
4th amendment doesn't apply to foreign intelligence agents. I think we've had this conversation already, and intercepts of American citizens conversations incidental to monitoring of these agents is perfectly legal, and common. Publishing it for public consumption is the unusual part - and I don't see why not. If you don't want people to know your business, don't do business with foreign government agents.
President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm — and fulfill one of the president’s core campaign promises. The administration’s deliberations on the issue have been fluid and fast moving, and the president has faced strong warnings from members of his own party not to scrap the program.
Trump has wrestled for months with whether to do away with the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA. But conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program and kick the issue to Congress, the two sources said.
In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official. But a senior White House aide said that chief of staff John Kelly, who has been running the West Wing policy process on the issue, “thinks Congress should’ve gotten its act together a lot longer ago.”
There goes the rest of the Hispanic vote for a generation.
But it makes his racist base happy, and that's all he worries about.
Hope you all saw 45's re-tweet of a picture of hillary especially new book what happened next to it is mocking book cover with a smiling Trump and the caption "I DID.
There goes the rest of the Hispanic vote for a generation. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
it takes a liberal to bash a guy for having principles, and for not being willing to compromise those principles to purchase a voting bloc.
"But it makes his racist base happy, and that's all he worries about."
his "racist" base, alky?
i guaran-fucking-tee you there are hispanics in that base. those who have principles, those who came here LEGALLY, and those who appreciate and abide by the rule of law.
the fundamental premise of being a sovereign nation is controlling the flow of people into your country, democrats don't care about this. never have, never will. beyond capturing the vote of those people, that is.
it's no wonder ted kennedy busted open the floodgates of our immigration policy in 1965. he foresaw what you wish for alky - enough of an influx of hispanics and people from other 3rd world shitholes to put the democrats in power and keep them there into perpetuity.
but at the last possible moment the american people realized what was happening, and this is how you got trump.
perhaps obama should've let congress do it instead of writing the law himself.
Sure ballz, with leaders like jowls leading the way....that like everything else for the last 6 years would have floundered like trump is doing now....NOTHING!!
intercepts of American citizens conversations incidental to monitoring of these agents is perfectly legal, and common. Publishing it for public consumption is the unusual part - and I don't see why not. If you don't want people to know your business, don't do business with foreign government agents.
Publishing it isn't unusual... it's illegal. For good reason.
The problem here WP... is that you are sort of slithering over the actual issue here. Simply put, it's not up to the FBI (nor should it be) to make determinations as to which foreigners are considered some sort of enemy "intelligence" and which are not.
We already see that some people's definition of a Russian agent is some lobbyist who works on the same cause as the Government, or some railroad executive who once was a mid-level transportation minister.
Oh, and considering Russia was not at the time considered a hostile nation, how do we determine which attorneys from which countries should be considered a foreign agent worthy of our surveillance efforts?
Of course, none of this would matter if it did not include American citizens. But it does. And there is no where in the constitution that it states that our fourth amendment rights cease to exist when we do business, have business, or just happen to correspond with people from other countries.
I am sort of shocked that in today's world of globalization that you would argue that 4th amendment rights are tossed out the window the second we talk to someone who isn't another US Citizen. The argument is flat out dumb.
Which brings us right back to the original point. Which is that there actually is a reason we have FISA court, and why there are Judges who ultimately provide warrants for conversations that will include American citizens. Like any government desire to put surveillance on American citizens, it requires a warrant and that warrant is supposed to be granted only with a pre-known probable cause.
Which brings us right back to the original point. Which is that there actually is a reason we have FISA court,
To annoy you and provide a check and balance to avoid the govmt unfettered use of wire taps. Yes it is illegal to disclose unless a series of steps are followed to release it....It is as good as they can do in spite your dislike it exists at all.....If you only knew what Darpa has done with respect to data mining,,,,it would curl your hair.....BTW, I hate surveylence but unknown to you, the data they collect and use just by you existing is scary......
The FBI doesn't decide -a court decides when issuing a warrant.
Public disclosure of intelligence intercepts is illegal under certain conditions, for inadequate reasons. The American public is more trustworthy with this information than are federal enforcement agencies, so logically the nation's interests are better served when information is made public.
Consider that it is not unlawful to intercept communications by any governmental, law enforcement etc etc, that is readily accessible to the public.
I propose that governmental intercepts involving foreign agents be made accessible to the public. Make no secret of it, and you have furthermore implied consent by anyone engaging in those communications.
In these cases, I think that publishing the information is not illegal.
What's wrong with transparency? The nominal reason for an embassy on US soil is for foreign governments to conduct diplomacy with the US, and secondarily provide services related to their governments, to their nationals and US citizens. Why do you believe that any of that should be shrouded in secrecy? Because it always has been?
If these diplomats need protections equal to those Constitutional provisions for citizens, let them conduct that business at a US facility. State Department Diplomacy Center. What possible benefit is it to us, US citizens, to ensure the secrecy of cloak and dagger meetings of intelligence operatives of foreign embassies?
You believe we should toss the fourth amendment protections, because there is a larger public interest in "public transparency" than there is in "personal privacy"?
Because, make no mistake... there is no legal separation between a citizen working in a factory and a citizen who is part of a political campaign. We are logically and legally no more entitled to any "public transparency" of what Bob the factory worker is doing and who he is talking to... than we are to what Bill the campaign manager is doing and who he is talking to.
The same legal principals apply. If either Bob or Bill is suspected of breaking laws, then with a proper warrant and probable cause we can start to monitor them. If neither Bob or Bill is suspected of anything illegal, then "Big Brother" is not just allowed to put them under surveillance.
That's how Dictators and Tyrants stay in power. By using the intelligence communities under their direction to harass, monitor, and attempt to bring down political opponents. So unless, that's the sort of Country you want to live in... then I would say we should all advocate that those in charge of the current Government must show pretty strong cause to be monitoring and releasing information on those political opponents who are attempting to gain power.
Because, if we want to get down to the specifics of the underlying argument... you believe that it's okay (under the public's right to transparency) for the Obama led DOJ and intelligence communities to be monitoring and releasing information on their political opponents (Trump campaign team). Moreover, you would also have to agree (logically) that by the same standards, whoever runs "against" Trump in 2020 should be monitored and have information released to the public... because of course "transparency" is good.
That seems like it would take a great deal of intellectual dishonestly to defend.
Not to mention, if transparency is so good... then why all the fuss over the release of the DNC and Clinton emails? Wasn't that just the public's right to know?
You believe we should toss the fourth amendment protections, because there is a larger public interest in "public transparency" than there is in "personal privacy"?
As I said earlier, 4th Amendment protections do not apply to foreign intelligence operatives. They do not apply to diplomats on sovereign embassies.
We have a couple of Federal laws on the books to address that situation. What I described could be legal within that framework, and those laws can also be altered without impacting the 4th Amendment protections. So to answer your question, no I do not advocate eliminating the 4th Amendment protections.
Are you making these arguments in an attempt to rationalize bad behavior from Trump campaign associates?
As I said earlier, 4th Amendment protections do not apply to foreign intelligence operatives.
Nobody said they did... and for the most part, we are not talking about foreign intelligence operatives.
We are talking about foreign business people, foreigners with seven degrees of separation ties to the Government, or foreign ambassadors... whom you would like to conveniently (but dishonestly) declare to be foreign "intelligence" operatives... in order to justify putting them under surveillance. (Or more to the point, justify putting Americans under surveillance because they happen to talk to them)
But even as it pertains to "actual" foreign intelligence operatives who are legally under surveillance, we have laws in place that protect American citizens from that surveillance. We are not supposed to actively pursue those conversations (unless we have a warrant on the American citizen) and when we "accidentally" pick up those types of conversations, the information on the American citizen is legally to be "redacted" from those conversations.
Those are the facts, WP. Those are the laws. That is the constitutional country we currently live it.
You would like these privacy protections changed... but the enormous task of changing them in a manner that does not infringe on the fourth amendment protections is pretty daunting. You offer no reasonable means as to how to do so...
Other than you seem to have a blind Trust that the Obama Administration and now the Trump administration and those who answer to them... could be, can be, and can be in the future... trusted to use these wildly expanded powers only for good.
If so, then so do the authors of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, the courts which provide warrants under this act, the Federal agencies which undertake surveillance under those warrants, and the various Presidents who ultimately authorize those activities.
And btw, the wire tap act 18 U.S. Code § 2511 explicitly allows wiretaps where one party has given consent. One parties *knowledge* of an intercept, and continuing in that knowledge, is held by our courts to constitute consent. Nothing about that violates the 4th Amendment.
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HB,tell this blog again how you could have made a million dollar from a home sale, but you failed.
40 month of the lost years did worst then this number.
Haven't the monthly increases been higher than this for every month this year? And DoL does not believe Harvey is contributing to this (that will show up in September's data).
One month could be the start of a trend, or it could be a blip, or (since these are preliminary numbers) could even be an inaccurate figure. Too soon to tell which.
The two previous reports were revised downward. By a small amount.
Harvey isn't going to help now. But the reconstruction and other efforts will create jobs. But enough to make a difference in the national economy, is unlikely.
Obama left behind an economy that had a record number of consecutive positive growth reports.
150,000 jobs under Obama, you were mercilessly critical. But now you seem to think that the "FAKE NEWS" is undermining the President.
DOJ.
No evidence of the alleged wiretapping claim by President Trump.
His series of tweets and other information is available here.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-02/no-evidence-trump-tower-was-wiretapped-justice-department-says
He never had any evidence, just another one of his "rages" that compel him to lash out in anger.
North Korea tested successfully a hydrogen bomb that they claimed will fit on one of their intercontinental ballistic missiles. President Trump has issued a condemnation of the test by North Korea. Details to follow. Be afraid very afraid.
This is stupid semantics. The government doesn't "wiretap" anymore. They don't need to put a physical tap on a phone wire.
They can just intercept call as they flow through the internet.
And there's no doubt the intercepted both voice and data communications from people working in Trump Tower.
Update: In a pair of tweets issued Sunday morning, President Trump wrote: "North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test. Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States... North Korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to China, which is trying to help but with little success."
TOKYO — North Korea sharply raised the stakes in its stand-off with the rest of the world Sunday, detonating a powerful nuclear device that it claimed was hydrogen bomb that could be attached to a missile capable of reaching the mainland United States.
Even if Kim Jong Un’s regime is exaggerating its feats, scientific evidence showed that North Korea had crossed an important threshold and had detonated a nuclear device that was exponentially more powerful than its last — and almost seven times the size of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.
"there's no doubt the intercepted both voice and data communications from people working in Trump Tower."
In your"mind". But there is absolutely no evidence of any surveillance as you're claiming none at all. It is your opinion and that's all it is everybody's got an a****** well you got an opinion and it's just about as worthless as you whatever part. Give us a break your thing you claim to be smart but you pull this out of your butt and with nothing to back it up other than just oh well well well well Obama did this Obama did that Obama did this and Obama did that because he did that you don't know s***.
This is the president Donald Trump Twitter feed. This is how he conducts foreign policy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
"The Justice Department also said in the motion that it and the FBI "do not confirm or deny the existence" of any other records that are responsive to the group's request"
"They don't need to put a physical tap on a phone wire."
Exactly.
The last year of the lost years recorded 5 months below this number.
HB, WHY WAS North Korea during the Lost years allowed to get 50 nukes, and the misses to deliver them?
In your"mind". But there is absolutely no evidence of any surveillance as you're claiming none at all.
You mean except for transcripts of phone conversations with "Russian" operatives.
Are you saying this is a media lie now?
Because you can't have it both ways.
It's semantics. They keep denying that the Tower was wiretapped. Specific individuals is a different story.
A new study examining the differences between "butt-fisting" injuries and those who engage in bestiality was written by a recipient of former President Barack Obama's Gold Service Award.
Animals may have the ability to consent, according to the researcher Damian Jacob M. Sendler, who recently released the study on "traumatic rectal injuries."
"Damian is a sexologist, research scientist, and physician-in-training," according to Sendler's website. He received Obama's service award for charitable work for elderly patients at New York Presbyterian Hospital.
"He is a recipient of several notable distinctions, including the United States President Barack Obama's Gold Service Award for humanitarian work, and United Nations in Asia Letter of Distinction for volunteering," the website adds.
http://freebeacon.com/culture/obama-service-award-recipient-now-researching-butt-fisting/amp/
isn't it ironic that a president who worked overtime to shove it up america's ass for 8 years would give an award to some clown who researched traumatic rectal injuries.
Because you can't have it both ways.
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oh yeah? next the alky will argue that 0linsky never personally sent a government agent dressed in a phony telephone company uniform and driving a phony telephone company truck to break into telephone closet and attach a recording device to certain telephone lines within the building.
They keep denying that the Tower was wiretapped. Specific individuals is a different story.
If someone was speaking to a rusisian delegate, and didn't know it was being monitored, You really shouldn't be working in govmt... I don't think semantics has anything to do with russians being monitored and a call being initiated in trump tower to a tapped line.....An interesting premise, with little impact..
North Korea sets off what it calls a hydrogen bomb, and sensors indicate it was indeed far more powerful than previous tests.
Trump says that wasn't nice.
James the pedo says, GREAT.
No, I neither say great nor am I a pedo.
Everyone knows you are lying. You have abundantly shown that.
YOUR words tell a different story.
Only ONE person here proclaimed a 14 year old hot....
James you boy did nothing during the Lost years to stop NK nuke program. You may want to powder your nose on this issue.
heh:
Advertising budget for Obamacare to be cut 90 percent: U.S. health agency
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services said on Thursday it plans to spend $10 million on advertising for the upcoming Obamacare open enrollment period that starts in November, a sharp cut from the $100 million spent last year.
The agency also said it will cut funding for so-called navigators, who help people enroll in Obamacare health insurance plans, by 41 percent to $36.8 million.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare/advertising-budget-for-obamacare-to-be-cut-90-percent-u-s-health-agency-idUSKCN1BB30Y
Advertising budget for Obamacare to be cut 90 percent: U.S. health agency
Can't get congress to do shit...he'll kill it anyway he can...Another disaster in the making.....Idiot Great leader he is....dividing the country into the rathole contingent and the rest...Let's see how that works out.....
Blogger Loretta said...
YOUR words tell a different story.
Only ONE person here proclaimed a 14 year old hot....
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indeed.
to me, one of the creepier things about child molesters is that they feel no shame for their actions and remain strident when confronted. remember scott ritter? that piece of shit continued to hunt children while spreading a mountain of lies about the war in iraq. local cops nailed him attempting to prey on a child just a few miles from where i'm sitting.
Ritter was convicted on six counts, including felony unlawful contact with a minor. Sentenced to up to five and half years, he was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pa., in March 2012.
Records show that the Pennsylvania parole board in June concluded Ritter had demonstrated positive behavior; had a "motivation for success" and had completed the programs needed for release.
Under the terms of his parole, Ritter can't possess weapons, must refrain from alcohol, and has agreed to drug testing and "outpatient sex offender treatment."
He can't have contact with anyone younger than 18 without approval from parole officials.
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Scott-Ritter-paroled-in-online-sex-case-5936227.php
Obamacare rates to double in coming year. The successes of the lost years continue to crush wage earners.
James you boy did nothing during the Lost years to stop NK nuke program
Did as much as W and clinton did......
Obamacare rates to double in coming year
Doubtful....stumpbroke...
HB, how is it your financial mind failed to score you, as you posted " million dollar profit" on a structure you purchased for less than 200 k?
You brought this topic to this blog.
"to me, one of the creepier things about child molesters is that they feel no shame for their actions and remain strident when confronted. remember scott ritter?"
Disgusting puke - hero to the left.
Go figure.
Opie, so two other prior President's do nothing and nothing was done during the Lost years, you just said so. That is your excuse for your boy,wow.
Your slip is showing.
liberal fuckstick goes to west texas to troll locals wearing an 0linsky shirt. discovers that they're really nice people.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/09/02/michael-skolnik-describes-not-so-harrowing-experience-of-wearing-obama-shirt-in-pro-trump-texas-town/
try the same in berkeley wearing a trump shirt and you'd be beaten and set on fire.
liberals really are the scum of the earth.
, so two other prior President's do nothing and nothing was done during the Lost years, you just said so.
Learn how to write or stop drinking so early....Yep, there was a whole lot of nothing under W, Clinton even less.....Trump is just words so far and hopefully will not ignite the nuclear fuze with the idiot of NK....There really is little to be done unless the chinese get heavily involved, and with trumps rhetoric, I do not hold much hope that the negotiator will be a moderating influence to get them to do something.....China is the only one that can bring them down.....
Republicans are the great dividers in this country....
If someone was speaking to a rusisian delegate, and didn't know it was being monitored, You really shouldn't be working in govmt..
Since the FISA laws specifically state that it is not generally legal for the U.S. Government to monitor foreign agents who have a strong likelihood of having correspondence with Americans... and completely illegal to use or release that information without redacting out the identify of the U.S. Citizen...
I guess you would only be naive to talk to an Ambassador if your expectations would be that our government follows those laws.
Of course, these laws were designed specifically to protect the privacy rights of American citizens above all else. A concept that appears uniquely hard to grasp by many on the left.
San Fran Chronicle
Reported it .
MY CORRECTION
DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES IN RATES.
I didn't see that it was "West Texas", which is almost 400 miles from Houston.
But he was being an imbecile. When I grew up in West Texas we did have both parties there, visits from the candidates and so on. No one got into fights over it.
BTW 150K jobs is historically nothing to brag about. Currently, it may be keeping up with the labor force due to declining participation rates of some of the population.
How was your 5k wp?
liberal fuckstick goes to west texas to troll locals wearing an 0linsky shirt. discovers that they're really nice people.
Bless his heart.
150K used to be what we needed to keep up with population growth, WP... that was why it was always sort of the goal (or standard). They claim that in 2017 we only need to create approximately half that to keep up with the labor force... mostly due to the amount of baby boomers retiring and leaving the work force.
The government numbers I saw were around 100K jobs per month, when all is said and done. And when thinking in terms of labor force participation, I keep in mind almost a decade of under-employed and discouraged job seekers who gave up, many of whom will return to the job market as it improves. The relative quantity of those people is so significant that with job growth this slow, the labor force size is naturally going to trend to parity with the growth. We simply aren't counting all of those people NOT in the labor force, but who WILL be again as jobs increase. So 150K isn't terrible but it's also not cutting it.
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How was your 5k wp?
The event was actually a week ago, the Mayors Corporate Challenge, and I wound up with 29:50, not fast of course but I was happy because it was my initial target goal. My run yesterday was just my weekly "long run", currently 6 miles, strangely at about the same pace as the 5K was so I'm still making progress.
I'm having to hold back, a lot, because increasing distance or speed too fast will injure my soft tissues. So it's a long game, we can't just run ourselves into shape like we could in our 20's.
I'm having to hold back, a lot, because increasing distance or speed too fast will injure my soft tissues. So it's a long game, we can't just run ourselves into shape like we could in our 20's.
Don't I know it. new men's rugby club in Alpharetta and I've decided I gotta lace on again. Last 15 minutes of Wednesday's practice was a modified HIT workout, I'm just now without a lot of pain. But damn it has been such a good pain....
Doing vinyasa yoga exclusively for the last 10 months or so, I'm getting so much more flexible but cardio has been the sacrifice
Opposite that for me, my cardio is pretty good but I wouldn't even try a HIIT workout yet, not running. I consider it a victory if I can get some muscle soreness without a ligament or joint complaining. I believe that just plugging away at it with threshold and long runs strengthens them though, and then increasing distance and some speed work is possible.
I should feel remorse because I once mentioned that Malia Obama at age 18 (not 14) was turning into an attractive, even "hot" young woman?
Get real.
I used to coach my son's ice hockey team. A lot of skating in those twice a week pratices. I still going ice skating once a month. Yes, kansas has indoor ice hockey. I am not as fast, but it is still a lot of fun.
WP. Good for you. I am 61, I suspect your younger.
Liar, at the time she was a child.
Liar, she was not.
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Deval Patrick may be the next President of the United States of America.
I've always been convinced that vinyasa is the most physiologically beneficial form BTW. I remember doing a very basic routine back in the 80's, no instruction and never anything more advanced but many hours. If anything I bet it will have helped your cardio once you train it up again.
Obama's letter to Trump when Trump took office has been leaked.
Dear Mr. President -
Congratulations on a remarkable run. Millions have placed their hopes in you, and all of us, regardless of party, should hope for expanded prosperity and security during your tenure.
This is a unique office, without a clear blueprint for success, so I don't know that any advice from me will be particularly helpful. Still, let me offer a few reflections from the past 8 years.
First, we've both been blessed, in different ways, with great good fortune. Not everyone is so lucky. It's up to us to do everything we can (to) build more ladders of success for every child and family that's willing to work hard.
Second, American leadership in this world really is indispensable. It's up to us, through action and example, to sustain the international order that's expanded steadily since the end of the Cold War, and upon which our own wealth and safety depend.
Third, we are just temporary occupants of this office. That makes us guardians of those democratic institutions and traditions -- like rule of law, separation of powers, equal protection and civil liberties -- that our forebears fought and bled for. Regardless of the push and pull of daily politics, it's up to us to leave those instruments of our democracy at least as strong as we found them.
And finally, take time, in the rush of events and responsibilities, for friends and family. They'll get you through the inevitable rough patches.
Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best as you embark on this great adventure, and know that we stand ready to help in any ways which we can.
Good luck and Godspeed,
BO
The state of ObamaCare:
$8,400 yearly premiums
$6 000 yearly deductibles
That is what liberal sucessrs looks like for us in the middle income.
The benefits I've felt from vinyasa, the breath with movement...
I've always worked on flexibility for being male but it's a different level
What is a Deval patrick? And when do you see her being sworn in?
BO, that part is right
"Patriotic James"
No such person exists.
Pedo James exists.
"Deval Patrick may be the next President of the United States of America."
Won't ever happen.
You've ruined any chance of getting another ghetto dude for the near future.
any chance of getting another ghetto dude for the near future.
Yeah....lets get another rich empathy deficient old white man for potus....Works for you and most sycophants!!!!
BO was not a ghetto dude.
Ghetto dudes shit on scum like BO
BO wasn't scum either.
BO was much lower
Since the FISA laws specifically state that it is not generally legal for the U.S. Government to monitor foreign agents who have a strong likelihood of having correspondence with Americans.
And what is your point???? Where I worked, all phone calls were monitored and recorded. PERIOD! If you are speaking with a russian diplomat, I can guaranfuckingtee you his phone is monitored...as the flynn or kushner conversations that were leaked demonstrate. You have a problem with that????
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-ambassador-told-moscow-that-kushner-wanted-secret-communications-channel-with-kremlin/2017/05/26/520a14b4-422d-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.e2fc6f9bee8f
Nice to recite the law CH, but that is just a facade to what really goes on. I'm surprised at you again....
Opie... Your own article claims that neither Trump or the meeting was monitored.
Neither the meeting nor the communications of Americans involved were under U.S. surveillance, officials said
Of course they have to say this, otherwise they are admitting breaking the law by monitoring American citizens. Their claim is that they were monitoring the Russian to Russian communication. Which would be legal.
So, yeah... I have a problem with your implications that Americans should expect that their communications are monitored. Doing so would be a violation of our constitutional rights and Federal law.
That still matters to some people
Personally I think we should not only monitor communications between citizens and Russian intelligence agents, I think we should post the audio on the internet. Obscuring the American's identity in accordance with the law.
Good thing u r not anywhere near the power to do so.
HB, how is it that you failed to act when you had an opportunity to as you put it make a "million dollars in profit"?
I want to understand your high IQ process that failed you.
Personally I think we should not only monitor communications between citizens and Russian intelligence agents
So you personally want to rid ourselves of the 4th amendment?
Yeah, sounds about normal for you these days.
our own article claims that neither Trump or the meeting was monitored.
My post did not mention either one....I was discussing flynn and kushner whose telecoms were leaked...Both should have known, especially flynn!!!!!
your implications that Americans should expect that their communications are monitored
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It is not an implication, its fact. You use a cell phone, some is gonna hear it. You call the russian embassy....it is going to be monitored whether you like it or not, you don't count.....
4th amendment doesn't apply to foreign intelligence agents. I think we've had this conversation already, and intercepts of American citizens conversations incidental to monitoring of these agents is perfectly legal, and common. Publishing it for public consumption is the unusual part - and I don't see why not. If you don't want people to know your business, don't do business with foreign government agents.
Baseless hyperbolic nonsense
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/03/trump-dreamers-immigration-daca-immigrants-242301
Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay
President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm — and fulfill one of the president’s core campaign promises.
The administration’s deliberations on the issue have been fluid and fast moving, and the president has faced strong warnings from members of his own party not to scrap the program.
Trump has wrestled for months with whether to do away with the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA. But conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program and kick the issue to Congress, the two sources said.
In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official. But a senior White House aide said that chief of staff John Kelly, who has been running the West Wing policy process on the issue, “thinks Congress should’ve gotten its act together a lot longer ago.”
There goes the rest of the Hispanic vote for a generation.
But it makes his racist base happy, and that's all he worries about.
HB, you are a mental child.
If daca was so great, perhaps obama should've let congress do it instead of writing the law himself.
He had a Pen.
TRUMP has the eraser.
Hope you all saw 45's re-tweet of a picture of hillary especially new book what happened next to it is mocking book cover with a smiling Trump and the caption "I DID.
There goes the rest of the Hispanic vote for a generation.
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it takes a liberal to bash a guy for having principles, and for not being willing to compromise those principles to purchase a voting bloc.
"But it makes his racist base happy, and that's all he worries about."
his "racist" base, alky?
i guaran-fucking-tee you there are hispanics in that base. those who have principles, those who came here LEGALLY, and those who appreciate and abide by the rule of law.
the fundamental premise of being a sovereign nation is controlling the flow of people into your country, democrats don't care about this. never have, never will. beyond capturing the vote of those people, that is.
it's no wonder ted kennedy busted open the floodgates of our immigration policy in 1965. he foresaw what you wish for alky - enough of an influx of hispanics and people from other 3rd world shitholes to put the democrats in power and keep them there into perpetuity.
but at the last possible moment the american people realized what was happening, and this is how you got trump.
perhaps obama should've let congress do it instead of writing the law himself.
Sure ballz, with leaders like jowls leading the way....that like everything else for the last 6 years would have floundered like trump is doing now....NOTHING!!
intercepts of American citizens conversations incidental to monitoring of these agents is perfectly legal, and common. Publishing it for public consumption is the unusual part - and I don't see why not. If you don't want people to know your business, don't do business with foreign government agents.
Publishing it isn't unusual... it's illegal. For good reason.
The problem here WP... is that you are sort of slithering over the actual issue here. Simply put, it's not up to the FBI (nor should it be) to make determinations as to which foreigners are considered some sort of enemy "intelligence" and which are not.
We already see that some people's definition of a Russian agent is some lobbyist who works on the same cause as the Government, or some railroad executive who once was a mid-level transportation minister.
Oh, and considering Russia was not at the time considered a hostile nation, how do we determine which attorneys from which countries should be considered a foreign agent worthy of our surveillance efforts?
Of course, none of this would matter if it did not include American citizens. But it does. And there is no where in the constitution that it states that our fourth amendment rights cease to exist when we do business, have business, or just happen to correspond with people from other countries.
I am sort of shocked that in today's world of globalization that you would argue that 4th amendment rights are tossed out the window the second we talk to someone who isn't another US Citizen. The argument is flat out dumb.
Which brings us right back to the original point. Which is that there actually is a reason we have FISA court, and why there are Judges who ultimately provide warrants for conversations that will include American citizens. Like any government desire to put surveillance on American citizens, it requires a warrant and that warrant is supposed to be granted only with a pre-known probable cause.
Which brings us right back to the original point. Which is that there actually is a reason we have FISA court,
To annoy you and provide a check and balance to avoid the govmt unfettered use of wire taps. Yes it is illegal to disclose unless a series of steps are followed to release it....It is as good as they can do in spite your dislike it exists at all.....If you only knew what Darpa has done with respect to data mining,,,,it would curl your hair.....BTW, I hate surveylence but unknown to you, the data they collect and use just by you existing is scary......
The FBI doesn't decide -a court decides when issuing a warrant.
Public disclosure of intelligence intercepts is illegal under certain conditions, for inadequate reasons. The American public is more trustworthy with this information than are federal enforcement agencies, so logically the nation's interests are better served when information is made public.
Consider that it is not unlawful to intercept communications by any governmental, law enforcement etc etc, that is readily accessible to the public.
I propose that governmental intercepts involving foreign agents be made accessible to the public. Make no secret of it, and you have furthermore implied consent by anyone engaging in those communications.
In these cases, I think that publishing the information is not illegal.
"The American public is more trustworthy with this information than are federal enforcement agencies,"
The disclosure of information isn't limited to the American public....
What's wrong with transparency? The nominal reason for an embassy on US soil is for foreign governments to conduct diplomacy with the US, and secondarily provide services related to their governments, to their nationals and US citizens. Why do you believe that any of that should be shrouded in secrecy? Because it always has been?
If these diplomats need protections equal to those Constitutional provisions for citizens, let them conduct that business at a US facility. State Department Diplomacy Center. What possible benefit is it to us, US citizens, to ensure the secrecy of cloak and dagger meetings of intelligence operatives of foreign embassies?
So basically WP...
You believe we should toss the fourth amendment protections, because there is a larger public interest in "public transparency" than there is in "personal privacy"?
Because, make no mistake... there is no legal separation between a citizen working in a factory and a citizen who is part of a political campaign. We are logically and legally no more entitled to any "public transparency" of what Bob the factory worker is doing and who he is talking to... than we are to what Bill the campaign manager is doing and who he is talking to.
The same legal principals apply. If either Bob or Bill is suspected of breaking laws, then with a proper warrant and probable cause we can start to monitor them. If neither Bob or Bill is suspected of anything illegal, then "Big Brother" is not just allowed to put them under surveillance.
That's how Dictators and Tyrants stay in power. By using the intelligence communities under their direction to harass, monitor, and attempt to bring down political opponents. So unless, that's the sort of Country you want to live in... then I would say we should all advocate that those in charge of the current Government must show pretty strong cause to be monitoring and releasing information on those political opponents who are attempting to gain power.
Because, if we want to get down to the specifics of the underlying argument... you believe that it's okay (under the public's right to transparency) for the Obama led DOJ and intelligence communities to be monitoring and releasing information on their political opponents (Trump campaign team). Moreover, you would also have to agree (logically) that by the same standards, whoever runs "against" Trump in 2020 should be monitored and have information released to the public... because of course "transparency" is good.
That seems like it would take a great deal of intellectual dishonestly to defend.
Not to mention, if transparency is so good... then why all the fuss over the release of the DNC and Clinton emails? Wasn't that just the public's right to know?
You believe we should toss the fourth amendment protections, because there is a larger public interest in "public transparency" than there is in "personal privacy"?
As I said earlier, 4th Amendment protections do not apply to foreign intelligence operatives. They do not apply to diplomats on sovereign embassies.
We have a couple of Federal laws on the books to address that situation. What I described could be legal within that framework, and those laws can also be altered without impacting the 4th Amendment protections. So to answer your question, no I do not advocate eliminating the 4th Amendment protections.
Are you making these arguments in an attempt to rationalize bad behavior from Trump campaign associates?
As I said earlier, 4th Amendment protections do not apply to foreign intelligence operatives.
Nobody said they did... and for the most part, we are not talking about foreign intelligence operatives.
We are talking about foreign business people, foreigners with seven degrees of separation ties to the Government, or foreign ambassadors... whom you would like to conveniently (but dishonestly) declare to be foreign "intelligence" operatives... in order to justify putting them under surveillance. (Or more to the point, justify putting Americans under surveillance because they happen to talk to them)
But even as it pertains to "actual" foreign intelligence operatives who are legally under surveillance, we have laws in place that protect American citizens from that surveillance. We are not supposed to actively pursue those conversations (unless we have a warrant on the American citizen) and when we "accidentally" pick up those types of conversations, the information on the American citizen is legally to be "redacted" from those conversations.
Those are the facts, WP. Those are the laws. That is the constitutional country we currently live it.
You would like these privacy protections changed... but the enormous task of changing them in a manner that does not infringe on the fourth amendment protections is pretty daunting. You offer no reasonable means as to how to do so...
Other than you seem to have a blind Trust that the Obama Administration and now the Trump administration and those who answer to them... could be, can be, and can be in the future... trusted to use these wildly expanded powers only for good.
Nobody said they did... and for the most part, we are not talking about foreign intelligence operatives.
We are talking about foreign business people, foreigners with seven degrees of separation ties to the Government, or foreign ambassadors...
If they have to conduct their business in the embassy, and are subject to a FISA warrant, I think they will have one or zero degrees of separation.
I don't think we're going to ever see eye to eye on this.
You don't have a disagreement with me, WP...
You have a fundamental disagreement with the fourth Amendment.
If so, then so do the authors of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, the courts which provide warrants under this act, the Federal agencies which undertake surveillance under those warrants, and the various Presidents who ultimately authorize those activities.
And btw, the wire tap act 18 U.S. Code § 2511 explicitly allows wiretaps where one party has given consent. One parties *knowledge* of an intercept, and continuing in that knowledge, is held by our courts to constitute consent. Nothing about that violates the 4th Amendment.
And btw, the wire tap act 18 U.S. Code § 2511 explicitly allows wiretaps where one party has given consent
Are you suggesting that these foreign agents have given consent?
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