Tuesday, October 31, 2017

Here is a question...

So George Papadopoulos apparently had correspondences with a Russian Professor and a woman who claimed (but wasn't) Putin's niece.  Liberals believe this is somehow proof of collusion.

What if the Trump administration had paid Papadopoulos to go meet with these Russian intermediaries, see who they otherwise knew, and find out what he could about Clinton.... you know like what the DNC and Clinton camp did with Christopher Steele who went to Russia and dug up dirt on Trump.

Would the fact he was paid to go to Russia and dig up dirt make it opposition research (like liberals claim it was for Christopher Steele) or is it still collusion because Papadopoulos would have been digging up dirt for the wrong team and against the wrong player?

Just curious...

84 comments:

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

What the hell is this question from?

What if the Trump administration had paid Papadopoulos to go meet with these Russian intermediaries, see who they otherwise knew, and find out what he could about Clinton.... you know like what the DNC and Clinton camp did with Christopher Steele who went to Russia and dug up dirt on Trump.???????

He sought out negative information on Clinton. He did it for free. He had contact with many people in the campaign and eventually it's looking like they used it. Timeline is just after he gave information to the administration about the Clinton email. Candidate Trump asked the Russians where the 20 million Clinton email is?

Anonymous said...

CHT, your question flew right over the deep thinker HB.

C.H. Truth said...

So Roger.

Simple question for you.

talking to Russians in an attempt to dig up dirt on a Presidential candidate is?

A) Illegal
B) Legal

Take your time.... and get back to us when you can come up with a simple "A" or "B" answer.

Anonymous said...

Candidate Trump asked the Russians where the 20 million Clinton email is?
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no alky,

candidate trump made a joke about the russians producing clinton's 30,000 emails both during a debate and during a campaign rally. and it stands to reason that the russians probably had them, seeing as how john podesta basically gave the emails to them.

that was never serious, every rational person knows this, and you look like an even BIGGER asshat every time you bring it up.

Anonymous said...

talking to Russians in an attempt to dig up dirt on a Presidential candidate is?

A) Illegal
B) Legal
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legal when a democrat does it.

illegal if a republican does it.


HBR


Loretta said...

Looks like another liberal went crazy in NYC again.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Loretta said...
Looks like another liberal went crazy in NYC again.
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yup. another 'alky snackbar.'

somehow on the liberal's most favorite day of the year i'm not surprised.


Anonymous said...

Shhhh, HB the deep thinker is thinking

caliphate4vr said...

Blogger Loretta said...
Looks like another liberal went crazy in NYC again.
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yup. another 'alky snackbar.'

somehow on the liberal's most favorite day of the year i'm not surprised.


Another lone wolf......

Anonymous said...



Another lone wolf......
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...that's been being tracked by everyone from local, state, and federal law enforcement to interpol for a fucking decade.

the political correctness body count climbs again.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
"my blood test results are right down the line, within normal range"
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so are mine alky.

with the liver God gave me.


you just feel the need to embarrass yourself between copy/paste's?

Loretta said...

No

One

Cares

Drunkard

Twice

Loretta said...

"you just feel the need to embarrass yourself between copy/paste's?"

Pitiful, really.

caliphate4vr said...

Another lone wolf......
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...that's been being tracked by everyone from local, state, and federal law enforcement to interpol for a fucking decade.

the political correctness body count climbs again.


It's time for this to end. Islam wants a war, reign hell on them until they quit or figure how to stop their coreligionists.

Anonymous said...

CHT, Thank you for exposing th deep thinker Roger.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Papadopoulos said that the Trump campaign accepted information about Hillary Clinton from the Russians.

Loretta said...

So?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Dirt from the Russians
A) Illegal
B) Legal

Clinton illegal

Trump legal on CHT.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

So?
The Foreign Agents Registration Act

Among the charges facing former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his right-hand man Richard Gates is failing to register as agents of a foreign government, and making false and misleading statements about that. The grand jury indictment unsealed Monday accuses the men of working on behalf of Ukraine and telling the Justice Department their activities "did not include meetings or outreach within the U.S."

Those charges are controversial, in part because violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act are rarely enforced. Kevin Downing, a lawyer for Manafort, told reporters outside the courthouse that prosecutors have used that "very novel" charge only six times since 1966, winning just one conviction.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

How many times have you said this?

No

One

Cares

Drunkard
No

One

Cares

Drunkard

No

One

Cares

Drunkard


C.H. Truth said...

So Roger.

Still waiting on the simple question for you.

talking to Russians in an attempt to dig up dirt on a Presidential candidate is?

A) Illegal
B) Legal


You've had plenty of time to think. Are you still incapable of answering?

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Anonymous said...

Can you frame the question in a way that somone else's opinion can be use by HB in a cut n paste.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH
Failing to register as agents of a foreign government is illegal.

As to the legality, it's complex. The President in office is in violation of the Constitution.

For everyone else, as far as I know, I will look it up. But if they register, it is legal, but if I'm wrong, unlike the President and you, I will admit being wrong. wp gets you time after time, but you dance the Trumpism Waltz.

But, in the case of dealing with the Russian government, a sworn enemy of democracies and the United States, it's a bad idea no matter which party does it.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - please answer the question.

talking to Russians in an attempt to dig up dirt on a Presidential candidate is?

A) Illegal
B) Legal

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Legal with some qualifications.

The use of it is politically incorrect, in my opinion. Essentially in regards to the Russians.

But, if Trump as President, #impeachment

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

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My non mail order bride.

IMO, she is the best looking wife on this blog.

Anonymous said...

ROGER IF

Anonymous said...

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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

William Jeffress is a white-collar defense attorney at Baker Botts. He represented I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby in the Valerie Plame affair.

If the Trump campaign conspired with or assisted the Russians in hacking the emails of John Podesta or the Democratic National Committee, the crime is clear. But beyond that, it is anything but clear. We do not have a federal statute punishing corrupt efforts to influence an election, unless done by particular prohibited acts such as vote buying or illegal political contributions. That is undoubtedly wise, because such a law would spur frequent criminal complaints against opponents by losers and even some winners of elections.

There is a statute punishing conspiracies to defraud the United States, including conspiracies to interfere with a governmental function by fraud. Special counsel Robert Mueller will surely focus on whether a conspiracy to interfere with the right to honest elections is a crime, but the question is greatly complicated by the 100-year-old Gradwell case; that case refused to apply the statute to interference in elections for senators and representatives, because the Constitution and laws assign to the states, not the federal government, the regulation of elections for those offices. It would not be a large step to say the same is true of the election of the Electoral College in presidential elections.

Collusion with the Russians in attempting to affect the outcome of the presidential election is a serious political scandal, but I must say it is not clear that it provides a basis for criminal prosecution. It may be that, like other investigations in the past, people may get in more trouble for false and misleading statements to investigators than for the underlying conduct.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/12/what-is-collusion-215366

Loretta said...

Spam by the drunkard

Loretta said...

Spam by the drunkard

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Very Fun Fact: George Papadopoulos's supervisor in the Trump campaign was Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III. #TrumpRussia

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Twit can't remember that CH asked me a question. I did some research, but dug up more information. How many times have you said in response Spam by the drunkard

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

1,954 days bitch.

Since you had an original thought.

Infinity

Loretta said...

Your spam wasn't an answer drunkard.

Loretta said...

"https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mmwGeR-nMYo/WfkiHR1MuII/AAAAAAAAJzU/FWHbtXmA96E4rLOCQ8xfch5zuORtAJshgCLcBGAs/s1600/FB_IMG_1509496127354.jpg"

This is a political blog, not your personal Facebook drunkard.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - once again you missed the point.

If it's legal - then why are we up in arms over the idea that some low level Trump campaign person was being solicited by Russians?

If it's illegal - then why was it okay for the DNC and the Hillary campaign to pay someone to go to Russia, talk to Russians and dig up dirt?


The problem is that liberals "literally" want it both ways. They want it to be illegal if someone is corresponding with Russians to dig up dirt on Clinton. But they want to call it opposition research if someone is corresponding with Russians to dig up dirt on Trump.

Explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?

Loretta said...

Oh, and drunkard?

CH did a blog post weeks ago explaining "collusion" which of course you tried to argue against.

Which makes your spam more laughable.

Loretta said...

Link for the drunkard's fun fact...

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/31/jeff-sessions-may-be-in-big-trouble-after-george-papadopoulos-guilty-plea/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The investigation was commissioned to see if the Trump campaign had coalition with the Russian government, and to see if the Trump campaign worked with them to change the outcome of the election. That's the issue. Did a sworn enemy of the United States work with the Trump campaign? Legal or not, it should not be allowed.

But you better be ready to defend the President against another member of the Trump campaign.

Sam Clovis.

caliphate4vr said...

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Anonymous said...

It's time for this to end. Islam wants a war, reign hell on them until they quit or figure how to stop their coreligionists.
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copy that.

every single raghead in the states needs to be under surveillance, as well as every fucking mosque. and we need to start picking these guys up when they first hit our radar. most of these scumbags are known wolves.

radical moose limbs are snakes.

moderate moose limbs are the grass they hide in.


Anonymous said...

"C.H. Truth said...
Roger - once again you missed the point."

Yep.


He can't answer on his own, even his cut n pastes opinion of others falls flat again.


US Housing is booming under the Rules and Regulations of the President Trump Administration, Erasing the lost years, with wealth creation and dream building.

Anonymous said...

Did a sworn enemy of the United States work with the Trump campaign? "

Nope, so many on both sides of the Isle have said it, I can post those people with their quotes if you wish.


Did a sworn enemy of the United States work with the Clinton campaign? "



YES< was paid millions of dollars to do so by the DNC, BY OBAMA and Bill and Hillary, no need to blame the workers when management took the lead and did the directing.


IF ROGER, think of it this way, when you were getting to coffee and management was building, they bought the material and ordered the construction per the agreed upon blueprints. Hillary, Bill , the DNC and Obama drew the blue prints, raised the money and paid the Russians.

Loretta said...

"Sam Clovis."

Keep clutching your pearls and fainting little girl.

Anonymous said...

Effeminate Roger, so sad.

Anonymous said...

CHT, your question flew right over the deep thinker HB.

Anonymous said...

Explain to me how this is not hypocrisy?
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it's simple.

one is an apple and the other is a banana.


Anonymous said...

"Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort--thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate."

Which President said the above

Clinton
Obama
Trump

C.H. Truth said...

Did a sworn enemy of the United States work with the Trump campaign? Legal or not, it should not be allowed.

Were the Russian officials who provided dirt on Trump to the DNC and Hillary camp via the Trump dossier...

Not part of that "sworn enemy"?


and if it should not be allowed...

Why are we not going after the people responsible for the dossier?

Anonymous said...

The Obama/Clinton/DNC historic new political standard.

When running for high office employee anyone of any nation to produce any documents and get the willing US intelligence agencies and the FBI and AG to spread it.

Anonymous said...

A Case study in what caused the left to be the way they are today.


"Blogger James said...
Looking at 270towin.com,
and looking at the above,
Trump could win AZ, FL, GA, IA, MI, MN, NC, NV, OH, SC, TX, UT, & WI
and still lose.

November 1, 2016 at 6:06 AM

Blogger James said...
Also NH."

November 1, 2016 at 6:13 AM

commie said...

Who was the jerk who said yesterday bail was dependent on the wealth of the criminal????? Was that you stumpy????


Seems Manafort had multiple passport applications...travelled extensively to Europe.....had great wealth and was determined but the govmt to be a flight risk ergo the large bail number.....A lot of risk to let him go before trial....So much for your expertise, stumpy.......LOL

commie said...

KD the stump broke idiot posted.....

When running for high office employee anyone


Employee anyone stumpy????? Must be wednesday and you are drinking again.....LOL

Anonymous said...

Were the Russian officials who provided dirt on Trump to the DNC and Hillary camp via the Trump dossier...

Not part of that "sworn enemy"?
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look CH, get this through your thick head -

from uncle joe's potemkin villages, to teddy the murderer using talks with the soviets to prevent a reagan reelection, to the present day... it's quite all right for the left to collude with communist russia.

it is only a problem if someone else does it, or is even PERCEIVED of doing it in pursuit of a greater political goal.

like i said, one is an apple and one is a banana.

double standards, two sets of rules, call it whatever you want.

HBL.

Anonymous said...

President Trump Economy which started officially on Jan 21,2017 has been a winning Bigly march.





Anonymous said...

Did a sworn enemy of the United States work with the Trump campaign? Legal or not, it should not be allowed.
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but if that so called "sworn enemy" (LOL) works with democrats, that's called opposition research, right alky?

right alky?

RIGHT ALKY???


you fucking piece of shit hack.


Anonymous said...

Game 7 of the World Series should be a good one, this has been an enjoyable display of Sport.

commie said...

What a douche bag of a father.....yep, I can think of who the real joke is .....

Donald Trump Jr. Teaches Daughter About Socialism by Taking Her Halloween Candy
Newsweek Harriet Sinclair,Newsweek 11 hours ago


Donald Trump Jr. Teaches Daughter About Socialism by Taking Her Halloween Candy
Donald Trump Jr. joked Tuesday he’s planning to teach his daughter about socialism by giving away half of his daughter’s Halloween candy to “a kid who sat at home.” President Donald Trump’s eldest son posted a picture of his three-year-old daughter Chloe, who was dressed as a police officer for Halloween, on Twitter, but his joke backfired as social media users pointed out the incongruity of his statement.

“I’m going to take half of Chloe’s candy tonight & give it to some kid who sat at home. It’s never to early to teach her about socialism,” Trump Jr. wrote, sharing the picture.

Anonymous said...

Case Study in the melt down of the Left and HER Loss.

"C.H. Truth said...
When James and Roger realized that nobody was following what they had to say over at the legacy blog... they turned around and started posting their spam over here.


It's a simple case of childish attention seeking.

"Look at me, look at me!"

Do they care that nobody else reads it, and is actually bothered by their behavior? Nope. They thrive on being big pains in the ass. It's what apparently motivates them to get up in the morning. Who can I try to irritate today!
November 1, 2016 at 9:35 AM"

A year to the date and the left is still on the casting couch, sucking their thumbs and crying out loud.

commie said...

Stump broke posts another fallacy......idiot...

President Trump Economy which started officially on Jan 21,2017

Which was growing and creating jobs thanx to obama, unlike what busch left behind.....asshole...

commie said...

Yep....that manafort indictment sure means nothing about the russian issues.....looks like muller is going to be interviewing manafort, lewandowski, and clovis all of whom had direct contact with papadoploulis....I imagine muller will be comparing what they say to a known baseline......going to be fun to watch!!!!

C.H. Truth said...

looks like muller is going to be interviewing manafort, lewandowski, and clovis all of whom had direct contact with papadoploulis

So you suppose they "just" thought of that now? You realize that they started interviewing this guy nine months ago, and arrested him in July?

Just because "you" just heard about yesterday, doesn't mean that it's all fresh and new to those tasked to investigate.

Anonymous said...

If it is news, it is news to the three jv liberals of CHT.

commie said...

CH desperately posts

Just because "you" just heard about yesterday,

You again missed the point, nothing surprising there....But please keep thinking you are smart, again, you failed...LOLOLOLOL

No sweat CH.... let me help......the dots are coming together and you again defend the idiot in chief..Nice...

Loretta said...

"So you suppose they "just" thought of that now?"

ADHD.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It looks like they will be looking into the dossier. We can talk about hypocrisy forever, both sides are guilty.

For me, it always comes back to the President. I have come to believe that he's a disastrous choice by the voters. I believe that he is incapable of performing the duties of The President and is a clear and present danger to the United States. We are never going to agree.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I inspired rrb to go into a CHT attack mode like the President on Twitter.

alky hack blaaaaaa blah.

The people who actually know me, tell me that because I have honestly addressed my addiction to alcohol, and have stayed strong and didn't get depressed on the liver transplant program for over 1.5 years, are an inspiration, and yes that is a quote from many.

I'm not a hate filled cubicle moron like you.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Just because "you" just heard about yesterday, doesn't mean that it's all fresh and new to those tasked to investigate.

That's ridiculous. It's a clear sign that Muheller is running a tight ship. We didn't know until yesterday.

C.H. Truth said...

That's ridiculous. It's a clear sign that Muheller is running a tight ship. We didn't know until yesterday.

Thanks for agreeing...

It would seem that Opie believes that starting tomorrow, the Mueller team will start their investigation into what this Papadopoulos knows and who he talked to.

Kind of like the opposite of the Ostrich thing. If Opie wasn't aware of it before, then it didn't exist and nobody else was dealing with it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Oh my gosh. We agreed on something.

The world is going to end. 😱😱😱😇😇😇

wphamilton said...

Why did Papadopoulos lie to the FBI (and other investigations)?

Anonymous said...

Opie is like a 2 year old playing peek a boo.

Anonymous said...

Best to you abd your Dodgers.

Anonymous said...

Only he knows.

C.H. Truth said...

Why did Papadopoulos lie to the FBI (and other investigations)?

Considering he was obviously a major player in the Trump Putin collusion conspiracy... one would have thought that the Trump team would have at least provided him with one of those high powered billionaire type attorneys.

Anonymous said...

PMI Manufacturing Index.

US manufacturing report strong activity.

Cool, more workers getting jobs making stuff in the USA. US Economy Trump Strong.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I won't do this again. But I love to mess with the angry cubicle clone..

But upon entering A.A. we soon take quite another view of this absolute humiliation. We perceive that only through utter defeat are we able to take our first steps toward liberation and strength. Our admissions of personal powerlessness finally turn out to be firm bedrock upon which happy and purposeful lives may be built.

😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

Anonymous said...



hey alky,

i'm still living with the liver God gave me. and my blood work is perfect. heh.

you're not messing with me, son. and i don't work in a cubicle. nor do i live in a shithole like you do.

and it is nice to see that when i can spare the time i always have room to occupy in your head rent-free.


Anonymous said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
Why did Papadopoulos lie to the FBI (and other investigations)?
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define "lie" wp.

the federal bureau of incompetence uses a broad definition.

let's say that you and i met for lunch yesterday exactly at noon.

weeks later you're questioned by the fbi about the lunch. they ask you when it was. you get the date correct, but you say we met at 12:30 instead of noon.

then the fbi does this -

"AH HA!!!11!"

"so, mr. wp, we have you on the restaurant surveillance camera entering the restaurant at noon. NOT 12:30 as you've "testified.""

and you say - "sorry. perhaps i was mistaken."

whammo. you're caught in a lie, according to comey's house of ill repute.

that's how this works. that's how martha stewart ended up in jail at the hands of comey. that's how scooter libby was found guilty.

it's mice nuts level stuff. it's what they do when they're on a mission to destroy someone, and they have no credible charges with which to do so.

the government that liberals love so much is a wicked son of a bitch. and it's well past time that liberals actually got bit by it hard.




Anonymous said...

Jobs number expected to be North of 300,000 plus, report out Friday.