With its verification by the Grassley-Graham memo, the Nunes memo now has about a thousand times more corroboration than the Steele dossier, the basis of the heinous allegations used by the Justice Department and FBI to get the FISA warrants.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/grassley-graham-memo-affirms-nunes-memo-fisa-steele-dossier
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Another couple of Republican politicians confirming the first Republican politician. That settles it then.
Far more compelling and credible than the Democrat response so far.
WP...
Members from the Senate intelligence committee with access to all of the relevant documentation...
Confirming what members of the House Intelligence committee with access to all of the relevant documentation...
Both memos, btw... the FBI reviewed and redacted prior to release. Nothing in those memos is considered "factually incorrect".
But hey, I suppose that's nothing like those NYT anonymous sources you are so entrusted in. You know, the ones who apparently know nothing about anything important, but are very privy to the President's television viewing habits.
Quote from the day.
Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?
Let's find out which are true and which are false. A full scale investigation of the sexual depredation allegations made against our President and denied by him is in order.
Let truth come out.
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Trump Blocks Democratic Memo on Russia Probe
“President Trump has decided to block the release of a Democratic memo countering Republican claims of FBI and Justice Department bias in the Russia probe,” Bloomberg reports.
New York Times: “Democrats are certain to be outraged by the action, given that last week the president declassified the contents of a rival Republican memo drafted by committee staff and drawn from the same underlying documents over the objections of his own Justice Department and F.B.I.”
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White House
Trump Claims Democrats’ Rebuttal Memo Was a Set Up
President Trump “accused the Democrats of forcing his hand in blocking the release of a classified memo that rebuts Republican charges that law enforcement agencies abused their power in spying on a former Trump campaign aide,” the New York Times reports.
Trump tweeted that the memo was “very political and long” and would have to be heavily redacted to protect “sources and methods (and more).”
“He said that the Democrats knew that such a necessity would prompt him to block the memo and would open the White House to charges of a lack of transparency.”
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If you believe that excuse, I have a bridge to sell you.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
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Andrew C McCarthy
In an opinion posted on the blog 'the Corner' on October 22, 2008, McCarthy wrote "I believe that the issue of Obama's personal radicalism, including his collaboration with radical, America-hating Leftists, should have been disqualifying."
Another trusted sycophant who believes medicare should be abolished and waterboarding is not torture...Yeah CH...another R with an opinion you admire because it suits your own tenet....Shocking...
“He said that the Democrats knew that such a necessity would prompt him to block the memo and would open the White House to charges of a lack of transparency.”
If you believe that excuse, I have a bridge to sell you.
All Schiff has to do is rewrite the memo to remove sources and methods.
I'll bet you here and now he won't.
Because it's not an excuse, it's the truth.
James, you and I both know that for some reason, CH has decided to worship Trump no matter what. The last 24 hours have made it clear that the White House is in total disarray. But instead of that he posted an opinion piece by two Republicans from a conservative media site.
The fact is that he is basically any man who is accused of abuse of women, is probably the victim, not the woman who was a victim of assault. He's got a lot of women who have accused him of assault. It's a fact that he checked out the dressing rooms at the Miss Universe show. The audio of pussy grabbing and other abuses of women have been ignored by people like CH because the stories were on the "Fake News" and by default are fiction.
The West Wing reverts to early disarray
In less than a week, months of progress in bringing order to President Trump's West Wing have been reversed.
The resignation of Staff Secretary Rob Porter has brought back many of the chaotic characteristics of the early months, according to conversations we have been having.
---Leaking in real time.
---Internal finger-pointing, with factions turning on each other.
---Frenzied internal speculation.
---Staff members admitting they lack faith in the chief of staff's judgment.
---More fires than aides can put out.
---President Trump venting internally and externally, and calling old friends to air grievances about his team.
Why it matters: This time, all that is sprinkled with anger and panic. People around the president are unsure exactly what happened, and baffled about how to regain their footing.
The big picture: The White House has still not explained who knew what, and when.
The latest:
WashPost lead story, "Kelly’s job may be in peril amid furor from Porter’s exit": "[T]he man whose mission had been to enforce order in the West Wing, Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, was focused instead on [saving] his job.
"Kelly spent much of [yesterday] scrambling to preserve his credibility inside the White House. In a morning staff meeting, he told senior aides to tell lower-level staffers ... that he had taken action within 40 minutes of learning that abuse allegations from both of Porter’s ex-wives were credible.
"[S]ome staffers left the meeting believing Kelly had asked them to lie."
The three potential Kelly replacements Trump has discussed — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, OMB chief and acting CFPB head Mick Mulvaney and businessman Tom Barrack — are names that have circulated before, reflecting the White House's limited options.
---Broke last night ... "Another Trump staffer quits after assault claims," per WashPost:
David Sorensen, a speechwriter at the White House's Council on Environmental Quality, resigned "after his former wife claimed that he was violent and emotionally abusive during their turbulent 2½ -year marriage."
Sorensen sent Axios a 12-page statement, including photos and screenshots, denying the allegations and contending he was the victim of abuse from HER.
---From the N.Y. Times: Trump's "glowing praise of a staff member accused of serial violence against women was in line with the president’s own denials of sexual impropriety ... and his habit of accepting claims of innocence from men [Roy Moore] facing similar allegations."
Common meant to reach out earlier, was in Gainesville to watch my son and KSU destroy FL.
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COMMENSA SAID
BcoBecause it's not an excuse, it's the truth.
ANYTHING Trump says you believe.
The FBI and DOJ would gladly have worked with the President to redact and remove any sensitive material.
But to Trump, what is sensitive is anything he does not agree with.
The FBI and DOJ would gladly have worked with the President to redact and remove any sensitive material.
It was so peppered with classified material that merely redacting it would make the memo unintelligible to read.
It has to be rewritten and only Schiff can do that.
BTW the FBI and DOJ clearly marked on the memo what was classified, sensitive information. How much more help does Schiff need?
The fact is that he is basically any man who is accused of abuse of women, is probably the victim, not the woman who was a victim of assault. He's got a lot of women who have accused him of assault. It's a fact that he checked out the dressing rooms at the Miss Universe show. The audio of pussy grabbing and other abuses of women have been ignored by people like CH because the stories were on the "Fake News" and by default are fiction.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...
The fact of the matter is that this was all aired for the public to know and judge prior to election day. He was even asked about this subject specifically in one of the debates. This was not something "found out later" that requires new action to be taken. If the Democrats want to bring it up again in the next election, feel free.
But he was elected by the American public in spite of his reputation. Would have probably been different if anyone felt the need to hold a previous President who admitted to receiving one sided sexual favors from a 20 year old intern who he helped garner employment... accountable for anything. But we didn't hold that President accountable. So there you go. Add to it that the attacks on Trump seemed orchestrated and otherwise problematic in a variety of ways, and you get reap what you sow.
But, no... it didn't matter to me because I didn't vote for Trump.
Now that he is President, it's not more relevant than all of the allegations of improprieties would have been if Hillary had been elected.
Common meant to reach out earlier, was in Gainesville to watch my son and KSU destroy FL.
Proud Pappa. Looked like a good game with the Gators falling short.
Just curious, why KSU instead of UGA?
James -
When Nunes wrote his memo, he gave it to the FBI and the DOJ and they helped him rewrite it and redact it. Then he provided that version to the President.
When Schiff wrote his memo, he gave it to the President and then demanded the President was being unfair for not releasing it as is.
He blatantly skipped a step.
You know why?
So he could fool you into believing Trump was doing something wrong by allowing the DOJ and FBI a chance to redact and help rewrite it. Something that he is certainly under obligation to do.
But hey, Shiff fools you once, shame on him. I assume you won't be fooled again!
CH lied again with
memo, he gave it to the FBI and the DOJ and they helped him rewrite it and redact it
I guess that is why the DOJ and FBI both recommended it not be published....Please stop rewriting history with your own alternate facts....You blatantly ignored that. Sad..
Sure CH....caught in another trumpesque lie...
Wray sent a striking signal to the White House, issuing a rare public warning that the memo about the FBI's surveillance practices omits key information that could impact its veracity. The move set up an ugly confrontation between Wray and Trump, who wants the document released.
"With regard to the House Intelligence Committee's memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it," the FBI said in a statement. "As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy."
Your memory is failing since this all happened within a week....early onset senility is my guess
Jane,Crippled alky and opie.
I pray for all of you.
I guess that is why the DOJ and FBI both recommended it not be published..
The Nunes memo did not contain any classified information for sources and methods.
Menstral once again talks out his ass with...
The Nunes memo did not contain any classified information for sources and methods.
The only thing you can say for certain is that it did not contain methods......Nice try idiot..
KD, the flamer posted...
I pray for all of you.
ESAD ASSHOLE......Go dig some coal out of your pigs ass...
Adam Schiff
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@RepAdamSchiff
After ignoring urging of FBI & DOJ not to release misleading Nunes memo because it omits material facts, @POTUS now expresses concerns over sharing precisely those facts with public and seeks to send it back to the same Majority that produced the flawed Nunes memo to begin with:
Senator Bob Casey
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@SenBobCasey
It’s now clear that @realDonaldTrump released the Nunes memo to attack our law enforcement, further obstruct the Mueller investigation and mislead the American people. What happened to transparency?
6:02 PM - Feb 9, 2018
Democratic Senator wants the Treasury Department to hand over records relating to President Donald Trump’s sale of a Palm Beach estate which he bought for $41 million to a Russian oligarch for $95 million only four years later.
"It is imperative that Congress follow the money and conduct a thorough investigation into any potential money laundering or other illicit financial dealings between the president, his associates, and Russia," wrote Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, reported ABC Friday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sold-40-million-estate-155724850.html
The Story of the Day Chapter Two.
COMMENSA: The Nunes memo did not contain any classified information for sources and methods'
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So tell us, simply and clearly, why the FBI and DOJ recommended that it not be released.
So Opie...
In one comment, you claim that the FBI never reviewed or redacted the Nunes memo...
The very next comment, you prove yourself wrong:
"With regard to the House Intelligence Committee's memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it," the FBI said in a statement. "As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy."
Just like a liberal... you are wrong so much you don't even bother to be embarrassed about it.
Roger...
Why not have the FBI release the application and all information regarding the application. It's what every conservative and Republican is calling for.
Why do you insist on hiding the truth?
How do you get from "limited opportunity to review", in a day or less, to "reviewed and redacted prior to release"?
What was re-written and redacted? Or did you just make that part up?
The Nunes Memo didn't HAVE enough information to need to be redacted. That's the problem with it. It was a purely political attack with political aims. Another memo by the partners in political attacks doesn't make it any more credible.
WP...
Wow... short memory or what?
Don't you recall how Adam Schiff put up the big fuss about how the memo had been tangibly changed and therefor should not be released?
“In its increasingly strange attempt to thwart publication of the memo, the committee minority is now complaining about minor edits to the memo, including grammatical fixes and two edits requested by the FBI and by the minority themselves.”
CH the security non expert asks...
Why not have the FBI release the application and all information regarding the application.
Because it contains top secret gathering information and sources....But, even with such an obvious reason our security savant messes it....!!!!
In one comment, you claim that the FBI never reviewed or redacted the Nunes memo
Yep...and I am sure you can show how the FBI redacted the memo as you liked about.....U guess them complaining about releasing it was just for show, right CH??????
u liked about LIED about.....
Went to Gainesville today to watch my son torch FL.
Try and 2 offload assists....
Gillibrand Suggests Hearings for Trump Accusers
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) slammed President Trump for his tweet questioning a lack of “due process” in abuse claims, saying that Congress could hold hearings about sexual misconduct allegations against him if he wanted due process, The Hill reports.
Said Gillibrand: “If he wants due process for the over dozen sexual assault allegations against him, let’s have Congressional hearings tomorrow. I would support that and my colleagues should too.”
When Nunes wrote his memo, he gave it to the FBI and the DOJ and they helped him rewrite it and redact it. Then he provided that version to the President.
When Schiff wrote his memo, he gave it to the President and then demanded the President was being unfair for not releasing it as is.
He blatantly skipped a step.
You know why?
So he could fool you into believing Trump was doing something wrong by allowing the DOJ and FBI a chance to redact and help rewrite it. Something that he is certainly under obligation to do.
But hey, Shiff fools you once, shame on him. I assume you won't be fooled again!
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Well now, let's see, Ch. Let's say Schiff now gets help from the FBI and DOJ to "redact and rewrite" the memo. And when he does that, will the President release it then?
Make a prediction.
"Minor edits", a couple of grammatical fixes, that's your big FBI redaction and rewrite?
WP...
This was about the process.
Nunes wrote the memo. The FBI reviewed it. Then Trump approved it.
Schiff wrote his memo. Went straight to the President, then accuse the President of not wanting to release it.
I didn't make any claims other than the FBI got to review and make changes to the Nunes memo. Opie claimed I lied about the part where Nunes allowed the FBI to review it.
It's simple, WP. The FBI either reviewed and made changes or they didn't. How large those changes were is irrelevant to how the process went down.
Which leftist was the most over the top in there Trump Hating today?
Winter Olympic 2018.
Leftist, which country are you cheering for?
Nunes staff and the White House wrote the memo CH. It was written with an intentional political bias.
This is from the non partisan, per CH, article was obviously fair and balanced.
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Last Friday, the Nunes memo asserted that the FBI and Justice Department had significantly relied on the unverified Steele dossier to obtain FISA warrants on Page. In the week that followed, House Intelligence Committee Democrats and their media echo chamber bleated about how things had been taken out of context, with some suggesting that there was plenty of other evidence to establish probable cause that Page was acting as a Russian agent.
(See my column last Sunday responding to claims by Representative Jerrold Nadler, here.) It was even implied that Nunes & Co. had deceptively reported committee testimony by the FBI’s then deputy director Andrew McCabe that the Steele dossier was essential to this probable-cause showing.
This is a classic example of diversion to keep people from watching the West Wing disaster .
Well, the National Review aren't exactly Trump cheerleaders.
So tell us, simply and clearly, why the FBI and DOJ recommended that it [Nunes Memo] not be released.
You mean other than it caused a great deal of embarrassment among the leadership of the FBI and DOJ?
Let's summarize for James because he's slow,
The FBI and DOJ objected to the FBI and DOJ objected to the Nunes memo because it was embarrassing to them.
The objected to the Schiff memo because it was rifed with sources and methods as well as other classified information.
And soon as Schiff rewrites the memo to remove the classified information then it would be released.
But he won't because he wants the issue and he hopes there will be enough people as stupid as James is to fall for it.
Nunes wrote the memo. The FBI reviewed it. Then Trump approved it.
Your simple sequence left out "the FBI rejected it" LOL
It's a political attack, containing nothing more than what the Republican politicians have already said publicly. The Dem memo is probably a political defense of the FBI. Trump approves one and blocks the other for political reasons. Twist and rail all you want. but those are the facts.
What I find interesting, WP...
Is that it's quite obvious that you still don't believe that the FBI used the Steele dossier as the basis of their FICA warrant.
Even if the entire application was declassified and it showed exactly that... I get the feeling that you still wouldn't believe it.
I would believe what the evidence demonstrates. At this point, there is no evidence that the "salacious and unverified" portion of the Steele dossier was "the basis" of the FICA warrant. It's pretty clear to me that this claim, implying that the sole basis or main basis were those parts of that document, is a transparent political spin relying on the confirmation bias of strong supporters.
I would believe what the evidence demonstrates.
Well that would be a refreshing change, as so far you have been extremely skeptical of what our Congressional oversight has found.
At this point, there is no evidence that the "salacious and unverified" portion of the Steele dossier was "the basis" of the FICA warrant.
Considering the "salacious and unverified" portion was likely the part about Trump, hookers, and golden showers... I doubt anyone believes that the FICA warrant had anything to do with that. Why would it?
The Steele dossier did, however, have specific allegations regarding Carter Page... which was logically the portion that was used.
The facts are the facts are the facts... and spinning is spinning is spinning.
So far, we have had nobody (on either side of the political spectrum, political or FBI) with direct knowledge of the FICA application that denies the fact that the dossier was used in the application process. Nobody has denied that a Yahoo story by Michael Isikoff was cited in the application. Nobody denies that the two were used in tandem to support the same narrative.
The arguments are around the edges... as in how prominent was the Steele dossier in the application, whether or not the Judge was made aware of the fact that it was bought and paid for by Trump's political opponent, and whether or not the testimony given implied (or outwardly stated) that a warrant would not have been applied for without the Steele dossier.
The truth of the matter, WP... and it's really not something you can argue away... is that many legal experts, law enforcement people, and Americans in general do not like the fact that an American citizen was being spied on based (in any part) on an unverified piece of opposition research, which was apparently bolstered by a Yahoo news story from the same source.
As a logical person you have shown yourself in the past to be... you should understand inherently that if they didn't "need" the dossier and a Yahoo news story to get a warrant... then they wouldn't have used them. They would have used all of that "other" evidence that nobody has so far seen, or heard about, or otherwise suggested. Even the "leaks" meant to damage the Nunes memo, were fairly tame... only suggesting that the Nunes memo didn't mention that Carter Page had been under surveillance prior. You are also smart enough to understand that someone being "previously" under surveillance is not reason to do so again.
Time will tell... as I am certain that eventually the disputed testimony will be provided, and quite possibly the application itself will be declassified.
Not to mention the Inspector General report due out.
I wish you were a tenth as skeptical of the NYT anonymous sources (who barely have a MLB batting average success rate) as you are of Congressional reports from people who have actually seen the application.
CH finally eliminated his editorial comment that the FBI redacted the nunes POS opinion piece
Nunes wrote the memo. The FBI reviewed it. Then Trump approved it.
Well that would be a refreshing change, as so far you have been extremely skeptical of what our Congressional oversight has found.
That's a joke. Even Gowdy, who's been nothing but political and who is strongly disputed by other actors in the congressional oversight, doesn't take it as far as you. What they "have found" and what you claim don't have much resemblance.
Why are the "unverified and salacious" parts relevant? Well it's because Gowdy et al, with you on the enthusiastic bandwagon, had fixated on it and have pretended that it disqualifies every document and intelligence is the Steele Report. In the face of evidence (undisputed facts) to the contrary. It is, literally, 100% of the reason you call the dossier "unverified" and worse.
Anonymous commie said...
CH finally eliminated his editorial comment that the FBI redacted the nunes POS opinion piece
Nunes wrote the memo. The FBI reviewed it. Then Trump approved it.
I still get a chuckle out of the fact that CH forgot "FBI rejected it" before "Trump approved it"
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