"This book does not accurately portray my experience at the White House," Cohn told Axios on Tuesday. "I am proud of my service in the Trump administration, and I continue to support the president and his economic agenda."Make no mistake. Gary Cohn was not part of any pre-President Trump circle, he is no longer part of the White House, he would have no particular loyalty to Trump, and has pretty much zero reason to lie at this point. If these ridiculous things Woodward claims happened were true, then Gary Cohn would have a ethical responsibility to back up the Woodward claims.
Gary Cohn is a registered Democrat who many on the right felt was the wrong choice for economic adviser. He doesn't fit the bill as some right wing partisan who would be willing to lie for political purposes to save Trump and his Party. Moreover, if these things were true, and he didn't want to admit it publicly, he could have chosen to keep quiet.
Seriously, what would be the point of Gary Cohn standing up for Trump? Eventually one might think that "somebody" would be willing to step forward and provide a first hand account that suggests any of this stuff is true. After all, if it's true, then it's true, and what's the harm in telling the truth?
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If he really wanted the unhinged lefties here to believe him he would have spoken anonymously.
What's their shoe de jour ?
Like I said, if the choice is to believe anyone on the record vs. anyone hiding under anonymity, believe the on the record person until proven otherwise.
Accurately
Is not a denial of the events.
This book does not accurately portray my experience at the White House,"
He may agree with the agenda. But he doesn't deny the events.
Sounds pretty much like a denial to me. Got anything to the contrary?
Lol. You're reading way too much into his statement. A cigar is just a cigar. The book is fiction.
All three of them do not specifically deny the events or the conversations.
Have you read the book?
Have you seen any of the interviews with Woodward?
Scott you are not a stupid man. We have enough of them here.
Every single one does not deny the events. Specifically the papers that were removed because if they had become policy we would have already been in a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula.
In the Pentagon they have all been told to not respond to orders from the President without consulting with the secretary of defense.
His world is collapsing around him. He doesn't know who he can trust anymore.
You are not specifically denying the events or anything else in the book.
Roger - cognitive dissonance has taken over your thought process. You need to get past your preconceived notions of what you would like to believe and pay close attention to what specifically is being said.
Example:
The person in charge of putting documents in front of the President (Staff Secretary) not only denies that any documents were "taken" from the President, but specifically states that doing so would have led to that person being fired. Lord knows Trump has fired a ton of people for doing much less.
He also suggested that the book is likely misleading in the way it specifically talks about his (Porter's) position. The Staff Secretary is the person who make a lot of decisions about what goes in front of the President and what doesn't. What's important and what isn't. Every President has had one (in fact, Kavanaugh was a staff secretary and that is what all of the fuss is about) and every staff secretary will make decisions.
As Porter points out, that is the job. He states that Woodward is attempting to suggest that as Staff Secretary, the decision to withhold something constituted some superseding of authority. If that were the case, then every staff secretary would have been superseding every President's authority. It would not be unique to Trump.
Furthermore, Christie is also part of a growing group of people who worked with Trump who claim that they are being misquoted in the book, and that Woodward never came to them to ask about it.
Before you quote someone second hand, EVERY RESPONSIBLE journalist would contact the person in question and ask for verification. If they choose to add the quote (in spite of a denial) then at least they offer that the person denied the quote. To simply quote someone second hand is irresponsible, lazy, and quite honestly very very dishonest and lacking in journalistic integrity.
The book is not fiction.
He did not write the book just to make money. He has written about eight Presidents. He says that in his experience with the previous Presidents that he has never seen before any one else more detached from reality.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Accurately
Is not a denial of the events.
This book does not accurately portray my experience at the White House,"
He may agree with the agenda. But he doesn't deny the events.
do you even grasp how stupid it is to insist upon vagueness when discussing accuracy, alky?
i mean, come on.
the last public figure who trafficked in "fake but accurate" bullshit was dan rather. and nowadays your gal pal maggie haberman is fond of "notionally accurate:"
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Bannon/Wolff stuff (and that’s whose office Wolff often went to when he visited WH) is basically same tactic Trump has used on people for years. Get in, get what you need,’get out, use an associate’s words again them.
10:49 AM - 3 Jan 2018
https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/948627373162975232
my God, when you get one of your TDS-fueled fantasies in a death grip you just refuse to let go. even when it makes you look mentally ill.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The book is not fiction.
He did not write the book just to make money. He has written about eight Presidents. He says that in his experience with the previous Presidents that he has never seen before any one else more detached from reality.
The invincible ignorance fallacy[1] is a deductive fallacy of circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given.
It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word, the method instead being to either make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing; all without actually demonstrating how the objection fit these terms (see ad lapidem fallacy).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy
alky, you fit this description so well i'm tempted to edit that wiki page by posting your picture on it.
His world is collapsing around him.
you're psychologically projecting again, alky.
cognitive dissonance has taken over your thought process. You need to get past your preconceived notions of what you would like to believe and pay close attention to what specifically is being said.
I have read every single one of them.
They never specifically deny anything in the book. The only one who has and let me say this one more time.
They never specifically deny anything in the book.
Not once. I have not lost my mind. Your perseverance in calling liberals hypocrites and believing that anything that this President does is protecting the country from socialism.
He has betrayed every single thing that the Republican party has stood for since Eisenhower and after William F. Buckley jr. pushed the John Birch Society into the trash.
He is not qualified to hold the office and perform the duties of the office of the President of the United States.
I'm not saying this as a Democrat.
I am saying this as an American.
Yeah, Rog and Casey awoke from a coma to reveal Iran Contra
The liberal left is getting more violent, and the news media is not only ignoring it, they're encouraging it. Evidence
The GOP office in WY the target of arson
The GOP candidate getting stabbed from s guy raging about trump
The Susan Collins staffer being threatened with rape if she doesn't vote no on kavanaugh
Collins herself the target of bribery for the same thing
Meanwhile, the news media whine about being the target of criticism while they fan the flames of spoiled brat anger we're getting from the left
I'm not saying this as a Democrat.
I am saying this as an American.
you're saying it as someone who is clinically insane.
You're saying it as a horse's ass
Liberals Cheered the deaths .
"Lol@HB
Oh, Headlines baited low IQ Roger, again.
According to the report, the number of excess deaths, which took place between September 2017 to February 2018, was 2,975, a 22 percent increase from what would normally have been expected during that period of time."
The Latest news on the Hurricane continues to be grim. The news is we humans caused it, well, caused it to be worse.
I don't need a tweet to create my thoughts.
All to often I will read the President's Twitter feed .
Within an hour or so I have been seeing a 500 word rant in support for the President online with his tweet.
Example Fiction.
Example My former aides have denied the allegations against me in the fictional book.
"This book does not accurately portray my experience at the White House," Cohn told Axios on Tuesday. "I am proud of my service in the Trump administration, and I continue to support the president and his economic agenda."
It is not a specific denial of the events. In other words, the events happened but he actually stated that the events happened.
Oh I know that I will see another accusation of mental illness from my comments.
That's a cowardly attempt to dismantle my arguments.
The President is a coward. Not me.
Bone spur draft dodger spent money on the doctor to get the deferments. A very typical method of evading the Vietnam war by wealthy people in that era.
All you have are accusation of mental illness from my comments.
That's a cowardly attempt to dismantle my arguments.
The President is a coward. Not me.
The book and the editorial are more evidence of the shrinking circle of people who the President can trust.
I haven't read his tweets yet. Nor have I read the Fake News I prescribe to.
I woke up just over an hour or so. I looked here and saw exactly what I expected.
The Latest news on the Hurricane continues to be grim. The news is we humans caused it, well, caused it to be worse.
"Republic Steel restarting Lorain facility, adding 1,000+ jobs after steel tariffs signed by Trump
Restarting the Lorain facility would provide more than a million tons of new production capacity".
Jobs, the ones Obama/Hillary said were gone forever.
look alky...
if you think that this:
"This book does not accurately portray my experience at the White House,"
is not "a specific denial of the events"
...then you are fucking delusional on a scale that makes me glad we're separated by an entire continent and you're not ambulatory without the aid of a walker.
look, i can almost empathize with you regarding the fact that the russia thing has basically turned to shit, and your options for dismissing trump now rest upon an anonymously sourced book to support a 25th amendment effort.
i mean, it must really suck to be someone so enraged, someone driven to the brink of insanity, that you're basically faced with no way to get rid of trump before he's up for reelection. and this is with the complete support of the msm, higher ed, the polls, hollywood, all of social media, antifa, and every other collection of leftist moonbats who have rallied to your cause.
it sucks to be you, and to watch you flame out in such a spectacular display of insanity is morbidly fascinating.
All you have are accusation of mental illness from my comments.
That's a cowardly attempt to dismantle my arguments.
No, it's because you are in fact mentally ill.
You need help.
hey alky,
regarding your descent into madness, you've got plenty of company:
Another hurricane is about to batter our coast. Trump is complicit.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?__twitter_impression=true&noredirect=on&utm_term=.97e87e9883c3
so... if trump is complicit does that mean trump is COLLUDING with hurricane flo? should mueller be investigating this?
the cuckoo among us would say yes...
"Another hurricane is about to batter our coast. Trump is complicit."
Lol, so Trump Controls the weather.
What happen to Obimbo's "Tuesday, June 03, 2008
"this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal ..."
Did Trump erase that too.
Max Holland in Newsweek:
"Woodward is the same now as he ever was. His misrepresentation ... is only the latest in a long string of questionable journalistic episodes. ... It reveals a grotesquely swollen ego fed by 40 years of hero worship."
They never specifically deny anything in the book.
Actually Rob Porter "specifically denies" that anything was "stolen" from the President's desk. Chris Christie "specifically denies" multiple quotes attached to him. Pence, Kelly, and Mattis has "specifically denied" events, including all specifically denying that there was ever any discussion of a 25th amendment case against the President.
So the reality here Roger, is that you refuse to accept that "yes" in fact there are "specific denials" coming from multiple people... which are in addition to the other more general dismissals of the Woodward book as misleading and inaccurate (certainly many things can be both somewhat factual and completely misleading. Lying by omission is still lying.).
Moreover, there has not yet been "one" person from the Trump White House (past or present) that has stepped up and claimed that they witnessed "any" of the events that Woodward claims took place.
So again, Roger... do the math.
- On one side you have allegations where several people have denied them (SPECIFICALLY DENIED them).
- And nobody - NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON - has stepped up and said that they can confirm these events.
Sorry Roger... if this was a book trashing Obama, and multiple people from within the Obama Administration stepped up and claimed it was untrue, while not one single person was willing to step up and confirm anything... would you believe it?
Of course you wouldn't. But you believe "this" because it fits your preconceived notions.
Every day Roger accuses Trump of mental illness. But now gets as angry when he gets his own tactic pushed into his face. Lol.
Brit Hume:
"The problem is of course ... [Woodward] doesn't disclose his sources, he doesn't annotate his books, [and] he doesn't give you a sense of who the people are with whom he spoke. ... A tremendous amount of Woodward's reports are never verified. ... It leaves us in a poor position to evaluate the work. ...
What I would like to see ... is a connection between these [claimed] outbursts of the president and real policies and actions on his part that match their claims about how reckless he is. I haven't seen that. ... He's doing what he campaigned on. Some policies may not work out, but they're not 'crazy.'"
and yes alky, i know brit hume works for fox news. but in this case, that doesn't make him wrong.
there but for the grace of God goes the alky:
A longtime College of Southern Nevada sociology professor is facing felony gun charges in connection with an on-campus shooting on the second day of classes.
Mark J. Bird was charged last month with discharging a gun within a prohibited structure, carrying a concealed weapon without a permit and possessing a dangerous weapon on school property, court records show. He was found bleeding from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his arm about 8:15 a.m. on Aug. 28 outside a bathroom in the Charleston campus K building.
Inside the bathroom, campus police found a $100 bill taped to a mirror along with a note that said, “For the janitor,” according to Bird’s arrest report. On the floor of the restroom was a black-and-white, .22-caliber pistol and one spent shell casing.
The sociology professor was hired Aug. 26, 1993, and was an emeritus faculty member at the time of the shooting, college spokesman Richard Lake said. Bird was not scheduled to teach any courses during the fall 2018 semester.
Bird was employed with the college as of Tuesday, although Lake said it was not clear what disciplinary actions, if any, would be taken against him.
A 911 call was made after several CSN employees and at least one student saw Bird stumble out of the bathroom, bleeding, before he collapsed, the report said. None of the witnesses — who later told police they only recalled hearing “a loud noise” — initially knew that Bird was armed and had shot himself, according to the report.
One college employee told police that he held Bird’s hand to calm him down as others tried to stop the bleeding. While waiting for authorities to arrive, Bird said he had shot himself in protest of President Donald Trump, police noted in their report. The report did not elaborate.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/report-las-vegas-professor-shot-himself-in-arm-to-protest-trump/
heckuva job 0linsky:
Nearly 40 million Social Security numbers have been stolen and used by illegal immigrants and others to get work, according to agency records obtained by an immigration reform group.
The Immigration Reform Law Institute said that from 2012 to 2016 there were “39 million instances where names and Social Security numbers on W-2 tax forms did not match the corresponding Social Security records.”
The group said that there is a “thriving black market” used by illegal immigrants to get Social Security numbers needed to get a job.
Their report draws attention to a move by former President Barack Obama to stop sending so-called “no match” letters to employers notifying them that numbers used by employees on the wage forms do not match their identity.
The change followed the president’s decision to approve amnesty for some 700,000 younger immigrants let into the U.S. under his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. Some of those have been dubbed “dreamers.”
Several groups promoting immigration reform and limitations have shown that illegal immigrants compete with low-income Americans for jobs.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/illegal-immigrants-cited-in-theft-of-39-million-social-security-numbers
Nobody said that they didn't take letters from his desk. Not specifically.
Tell us where he said what you claimed?
Be honest for the first time since Trump was not elected by a majority of Americans.
George H W Bush was the last Republican President to get a majority vote.
Former National Security Agency Director Mike Rogers on Tuesday disputed a report published in May 2017 alleging that President Donald Trump asked him to push back against the FBI’s collusion investigation.
“I’ve never had a discussion with collusion with the president of the United States,” Rogers said at an event held at George Mason University, according to CBS News.
“I’ve never been directed to do anything, coerced — any time I had a discussion I felt I was able to say, ‘Hey, here’s my view on that.'”
The Washington Post reported May 22, 2017, that Trump separately asked Rogers and Dan Coates, the director of the office of national intelligence, to push back against the FBI’s investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government.
The alleged request came after then-FBI Director James Comey testified that the bureau was investigating whether members of the Trump team conspired with the Kremlin to influence the 2016 presidential election.
Citing multiple anonymous sources, WaPo reported that Rogers refused to comply with Trump’s request. The newspaper also reported that a senior NSA official wrote a memo detailing the interaction between Trump and Rogers. (RELATED: Senate Intel Chairman Says He Has Not Seen Evidence Of Collusion)
“I was never asked that,” Rogers said Tuesday in regard to whether Trump made the request.
When asked why he did not publicly rebut the story after it was published, Rogers said that if he spent time shooting down inaccurate media reports, “I’d never get anything done.”
http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/12/nsa-director-trump-collusion/
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Too much FAKE NEWS and FAKE BOOKS. Reporting has gone down the toilet.
This is real simple Roger.
You can post the stories till you are blue in the face, and it won't convince me of anything. As of now, nearly everyone involved has denied that these stories are true.
If that doesn't matter to "you" - if actual first hand denials of these stories doesn't make you question the validity of them. If your mind is "that" made up...
How can you expect anyone else to change their mind based on you repeating the same silly stories from the same "anonymous" sources...
Blogger Roger Amick said...
George H W Bush was the last Republican President to get a majority vote.
that's nice alky.
in case you were wondering, the electoral college exists to protect the folks in states like your home state of south dakota. their vote matters just as much as some alcoholic layabout in california.
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