Monday, September 10, 2018

Pence - Trump tough minded boss who wants things yesterday

Pence denies claim that Cabinet members talked of invoking 25th Amendment to remove Trump
Vice President Mike Pence might have the most to gain from a premature end to Donald Trump’s presidency, but in an interview aired Sunday, he forcefully denied engaging in any discussion about invoking the 25th Amendment to eject Trump from office.

The vice president, who made appearances on two major Sunday news-talk shows, also delivered a sweeping condemnation of Watergate journalist Bob Woodward’s depiction of a capricious and incurious president, and again denied authorship of a stinging anonymous op-ed published last week in the New York Times that describes high-level officials discussing removing Trump.

Pence said he was willing to take a lie-detector test to back up his denial of personal authorship of the critique, but said he had not asked his staff whether any of them had penned the anonymous critique because he fully trusted none had done so.

So once again, we have an honest mature "real" Administration official who flat out states that what is written in Bob Woodward's book is total fiction. Will that prevent those infected with TDS from demanding that third hand anonymous accounts of events are what we "should" believe? Probably not. They will still believe exactly what they want to (and are told to) believe.

The fact of the matter is that there is still literally no tangible evidence that any such talks took place, and there quite honestly is very little reason to believe that they "should" take place. While some may not like the President's "style", the fact of the matter is that he is getting things done and attempting to keep most all of the promises he made to his voters.

I guess it take a true Washington insider (or complete idiot) to believe that keeping your political promises and actually pushing forward your agenda is cause to have a President removed from office.

65 comments:

Anonymous said...




well whattaya know -

google colluding with russia's putin:


Earlier, Navalny’s aides condemned Google after it removed his adverts from YouTube urging Russians to protest against the pension changes.

Russian officials sent a letter to Google last month asking it to block Navalny’s videos because it said they were illegal under the country’s election laws, which bar political campaigning 24 hours before elections.

Google confirmed it had pulled the videos. “We consider all justified appeals from state bodies. We also require advertisers to act in accordance with the local law and our advertising policies,” the company told the Guardian.

Leonid Volkov, an aide to Navalny, said Google’s decision “presents a clear case of political censorship.” He said it was the first time the internet firm had complied with a request by Russian authorities to block opposition content. He also accused officials of misleading Google: “The rallies do not have anything to do with the elections.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/09/google-pulls-youtube-ad-by-putin-critic-alexei-navalny


commie said...

Trump tough minded boss who wants things yesterday

Or else....great way to get respect of the staff.... call them names!!!! How's that working????

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Once again you are following orders from the President.

The book is totally false.

The OP ED is totally false.

Trumpism stage four cancer will be fatal on election day in November.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Clarence Lusane, chair of the political science department at Howard University
said. "When Trump talks about black unemployment he is not talking to black people. He's talking to the white voters that they don't want to scare away as they head into the 2020 election."

He was effectively getting the middle class and even education suburbanites to vote for him despite his underlying racism.

It's not going to work in November.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger -

Is it really your staple belief that anonymous hearsay is actually more credible than first hand witness account?

Is that really your argument here?

Because that is exactly what you are arguing. Nothing more, nothing less.

caliphate4vr said...

and even education suburbanites

into the opiates early?

Anonymous said...




Clarence Lusane, chair of the political science department at Howard University
said. "When Trump talks about black unemployment he is not talking to black people. He's talking to the white voters that they don't want to scare away as they head into the 2020 election."



wow. imagine that. a prof from an HBC whose tradecraft is peddling racism is stoking racial hatred.

for his next trick the alky wil trot out a marine biologist to declare that water is wet.

Anonymous said...




underlying racism, alky? is that the proverbial 'dog whistle' that only racist liberals can hear?

another "i am fucktard-acus" moment of psychological projection by the alky.


Anonymous said...

The book is totally false.

well, it is exclusively sourced by people who go by the pseudonym: anonymous. and because woodward is the grand old man of the msm he gets away with it. not going full retard like bernstein has paid dividends.


The OP ED is totally false.

i'm betting that it was written by a ny times hack and cleverly and conveniently used the word "lodestar" to get folks to think pence wrote it. it seems like the kind of nickledick move that the times or the amazon post would pull.

Anonymous said...

" Trump talks about black unemployment"

No actually he IS talking with the Black Americans.

PLO office in DC Shutdown.

Anonymous said...

"Clarence Lusane"

"into the opiates early?" Cali. On Roger.

The Racist Clarence Lusane and Trump Hater.
Roger you never take the time to look up the history of your flavor of the day.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“It is mostly anonymous sources in here, why should anyone trust you? General Mattis, General Kelly said it’s not true.” @SavannahGuthrie @TODAYshow Bob Woodward is a liar who is like a Dem operative prior to the Midterms. He was caught cold, even by NBC.

Yes sir Mr. President

cowardly king obama said...

So once again, we have an honest mature "real" Administration official who flat out states that what is written in Bob Woodward's book is total fiction. Will that prevent those infected with TDS from demanding that third hand anonymous accounts of events are what we "should" believe? Probably not. They will still believe exactly what they want to (and are told to) believe.

And Roger posts the proof that this is true.

You can't make this shit up.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Yes sir Mr. President

“It is mostly anonymous sources in here, why should anyone trust you? General Mattis, General Kelly said it’s not true.” @SavannahGuthrie @TODAYshow Bob Woodward is a liar who is like a Dem operative prior to the Midterms. He was caught cold, even by NBC.

I am stating that I believe the Woodward book and the New York Times op ED.

The defense of Richard Nixon was run upon the same kind of allegations claiming that Anonymous sources are not real and were the creations of the journalist.

Additionally in this case we have a President who is attacking the institutions that have kept us safe from enemies both foreign and domestic. They won the cold war.

I am saying that the inhouse team has remained silent about their miscomings.

They have so far, decided to remain silent and want to protect our country from Donald Trump.

I do wish that the person who wrote the editorial should resign and then step forward.

As to your question, yes I believe the first hand accouts.

“It is mostly anonymous sources in here, why should anyone trust you? General Mattis, General Kelly said it’s not true.” @SavannahGuthrie @TODAYshow Bob Woodward is a liar who is like a Dem operative prior to the Midterms. He was caught cold, even by NBC.

You have chosen to believe Donald J. Trump.

History will prove that you were wrong.

caliphate4vr said...

Vice President Mike Pence says he does not know who penned the anonymous op-ed in the New York Times -- "but I do know that they should resign and leave this administration," he told "Fox News Sunday."

Pence criticized both the allegations made by "anonymous" as well as the picture of chaos in the Trump White House portrayed in the new Bob Woodward book:

It's absolutely absurd. And I have to tell you, I'd be honest with you, Chris. Sometimes I watch a little bit of TV in the morning and then I go to the White House and I feel like I'm in a parallel universe.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Additionally the denial of science is another example of the Incompetence of the President.

For decades, men and women have striven to reach the top of the world; they have struggled on skis, hauled sleds and endured a litany of miseries — including death — in pursuit of that goal. But when I went to the North Pole, all I had to do was board a flight to Helsinki and catch a charter to Murmansk, Russia, where I boarded a ship. From there, all that was required of me was to kick back and enjoy the scenery, the wildlife and the three multicourse meals per day.
After we reached the Pole, that ship, a 500-foot, 28,000-ton, red-and-black nuclear-powered Russian icebreaker called 50 Let Pobedy — or, in English, 50 Years of Victory — towered over us, about 130 fee-paying passengers from around the world, accompanied by a small handful of scientists and journalists, as we stood in a large circle, each of us wearing expedition-issued bright yellow parkas. The ship’s captain, Dmitriy Lobusov — tall, gray-bearded and looking every inch a Russian sea captain — spoke into a microphone, his words translated by an aide by his side.

Commonsense said...

I didn't know Condi Nash's travallog was now considered science.

commie said...


CH

Is it really your staple belief that anonymous hearsay

Anonymous yes.....hearsay bullshit!!!!.....proving again you are about as truthful as your asshole potus...

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Nobody can tell me what to think.

I have been analytical since about the age of 12. Unlike most of you here take your opinions from Fox News and the various right wing websites.

I read Breitbart News and others. As well as the main steam media.

Journalism is under attack from the President and his supporters. He's not the first and won't be the last President to attack the media. But not since the Wilson administration has the freedom of the press been under attack.

Calling journalists "The enemy of the people" is an attack upon the Constitution.

As to disagreeing with the President on foreign policy decisions and domestic policy issues isn't a problem. He was elected President.

I'm still hoping that the person who wrote the editorial should resign and step forward.

I suspect that he or she is a very high level individual.

commie said...

.
Vice President Mike Pence says he does not know who penned the anonymous op-ed in the New York Times -- "

Betcha he will know the source well....it could still be him with his track record of BS!!!!

caliphate4vr said...

I suspect that he or she is a very high level individual.

I suspect you need serious mental help

Commonsense said...

Nobody can tell me what to think.

See that's the thing. You have to be able to think.

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Commonsense said...

Case in point the anonymous op-ed in the New York Times reads like it was written by a twienty-something junior-staffer who was trying to impress his or her friends.

It certaintly didn't have the air of maturity and dignity that one might expect if it was actually written by a high level official.

C.H. Truth said...

I am stating that I believe the Woodward book and the New York Times op ED.

So you DO find anonymous double hearsay more credible than first hand accounts. Very strange that someone would admit that.

Explain to us, Rog, what other parts of your life where you would trust anonymous double hearsay over first hand accounts? Because I have a feeling that this ridiculous notion "only" applies to things you hear about Trump.

Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

Nobody can tell me what to think.



says the guy who would repeat a copy/paste 10 times on 5 different threads.

your problem alky, is that you have dozens of asshat liberals telling you what to think.

commie said...

Wood ward is hearsay...the times op ed is first hand....get over yourself with your righteous indignation as trump is getting his fat ass kicked daily....Your straw man once again is disingenuous bullshit....sorry...

s reads like it was written by a twenty-something junior-staffer who was trying to impress his or her friends.

Opinions are like assholes CH....everyone has one.....and yours is about as valid as cramps....but at least he puts it in writing where you just slurp trump!!!

Anonymous said...



Calling journalists "The enemy of the people" is an attack upon the Constitution.

uh, no genius, it's not.

have you read the first amendment lately?

trump's not abridging the freedom of the press by calling them liars, fake news, or an enemy of the people.

the press remains free to lie like it's their fucking job.

now, 0linsky on the other hand, DID abridge james rosen's freedom, as well as a number of AP reporters.

so, once again, everything you accuse trump of doing was ACTUALLY done by 0linsky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

ridiculous notion "only" applies to things you hear about Trump.

No. Anonymous sources were also used during the Clinton impeachment campaign. Drudge report was a source of information that was fraudulent but you believed it because it applied to Clinton. The same thing happened during the Benghazi "scandal" investigation.

Apply the same standards to Trump

Anonymous said...



Drudge report was a source of information that was fraudulent but you believed it because it applied to Clinton.

you're fucking delusional. drudge had it first and he had it right. that's what infuriated the left. and there were no anonymous sources that i know of. linda tripp sure wasn't anonymous.

you're just desperate to find an equivalence, moral or otherwise, where none exists.

Anonymous said...

They say, ‘Maxine, please don’t say impeachment anymore.’

“And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment,” she said to applause.

Waters told the crowd she won’t stop with Trump.

“I had a conversation here today with someone asked, ‘Well, what about Pence? If you are able to impeach, Pence will be worse,'” she recollected.

“Well, I said, ‘Look, one at a time.’

“You knock one down, one at a time,” she said.

“You knock one down, and we’ll be ready for Pence. We’ll get him, too,” she vowed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Not everything that was on Drudge was true.

You don't care if @realDonaldTrump lies or distorts. Yor hypocrisy and racism means that you have no credibility except to the Twit and CH

C.H. Truth said...

No. Anonymous sources were also used during the Clinton impeachment campaign.

Well I am not so sure that there were any anonymous sources. We knew all of the players in the White Water deal, and Linda Tripp was well known to have provided the information regarding the potential witness tampering of Monica Lewinski.


Try again Roger...

Outside of politics, when do you trust anonymous sources.

Would you convict someone of a crime based on the testimony of someone who knows someone who knows someone, when the first hand accounts contradict them?

Again, Roger... that testimony of someone who knows someone who knows someone who saw something would never be allowed in the courtroom.

C.H. Truth said...

Wood ward is hearsay...the times op ed is first hand..

Bullshit. The NY Times "says" that they have a anonymous source. Last time they used the term "Sr official" it turned out to be an intern.

So the Times publishing something that someone told them is hearsay. Pretty much everyone believes that the article was actually written by a ghostwriter anyways. Until that person admits to being the writer (or to working with a ghostwriter) and can be questioned about it, that entire article is considered hearsay.

Plus...

If you read the actual Ed/Op yourself, you would know that this person did not claim to see any of these things "personally". But rather they knew people who claim to have seen things. People, of course, they do not identify.

Anonymous said...




liberals go absolutely apeshit in 3, 2, 1...


The Trump administration is ordering the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to shutter its Washington, D.C., office in a bid to increase pressure on Palestinian leadership amid stalled peace talks.

“We have been notified by a US official of their decision to close the Palestinian mission to the US,” PLO Secretary General Saeb Erekat said in a statement Monday, according to Al-Jazeera.

The State Department confirmed the move Monday.



http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/10/trump-close-plo-office-washington/


Anonymous said...



Blogger Roger Amick said...

Not everything that was on Drudge was true.



every source site makes the occasional mistake. and others like CNN intentionally lie.

remember how the lewinsky deal blew up, rog. drudge not only broke the story, drudge exposed newsweek as having been sitting on the story to protect the president...

On this day in 1998, the Drudge Report carried an item on its website alleging that Newsweek magazine was sitting on a story exposing an affair between President Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, a 22-year-old White House intern.

Ten days later, Clinton, with his wife beside him, told reporters: “… I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I’m going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you.”

The next day, Hillary Clinton said on NBC’s “Today” show: “The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president.”



https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/this-day-in-politics-086305


it was how drudge ultimately fucked newsweek that infuriated the liberals in the media.

oh, and rog?

drudge is an aggregator. what drudge lists on his site are links to stories on other sites.


Anonymous said...




You don't care if @realDonaldTrump lies or distorts.

ok genius, riddle me this -

how the fuck could i possibly know if trump lies or distorts? every story about trump is derogatory and highly critical of the man.

trump could walk across the surface of the potomac right fucking now, and the headline on the amazon post would be:

"TRUMP CAN'T SWIM!!!11!"

we're being told that trump is so stupid aides steal documents off his desk to keep him from blowing up shithole-istan. we're being told that guys like kelly call him an idiot and mattis saves us from nuclear war every day.

based up the reporting of the msm there's no way for anyone to know what's coming out of the white house is true or false.

and then lil bobby woodward writes a book 100% dependent upon anonymous sources and i'm supposed to know what to believe and what not to believe.

geezus

Anonymous said...

Add another Death to the Hillary Clinton score card.
"Professor Joseph Mifsud is seen prior a 2010 news conference in Vienna. Now, lawyers for the Democratic National Committee say it is possible Mifsud is dead. (Associated Press)

Joseph Mifsud, the mysterious Maltese professor believed to have played a key role in igniting the Russia probe, vanished from public eye after his name began surfacing in news stories."

Anonymous said...

A real President said
"“’President Trump would need a magic wand to get to 4% GDP,’ stated President Obama. I guess I have a magic wand, 4.2%, and we will do MUCH better than this! We have just begun,” Trump tweeted."

commie said...

I guess I have a magic wand, 4.2%, and we will do MUCH better than this! We have just begun,” Trump tweeted."

Hey assholes....one quarter of 4.2% is exactly one quarter.....need 3 more for it to mean something!!!! I believe the forecast for the year remains barely above obama's last year.....oh well....keep fucking goats and pigs....they are your kind of lovers....LOLOLOL

COMMIE said...

how the fuck could i possibly know if trump lies or distorts?

How about the latest lie???? HIS OWN PEOPLE CALL HIS BULLSHIT!!!!!

Trump's tweet about the economy was false, top White House economic adviser says
Dylan Stableford 59 minutes ago



The top official on the White House economic advisory council said on Monday that President Trump’s claim that the quarterly change in the country’s gross domestic product has eclipsed the U.S. unemployment rate for “the first time in over 100 years” is false.

“I can tell you what is true,” Kevin Hassett, chairman of the council, told reporters during a press briefing. “What is true is that it is the highest in 10 years.”

commie said...


every source site makes the occasional mistake.

AND what do you call what trump does???? Barking at the moon.....making shit up.....and you keep slurping...

commie said...

now, and the headline on the amazon post would be:


SO FUCKING WHAT...!!!!!! Who cares what amazon headline would be....they are just as credible as breitbart and allahpundit....sad you think they matter!!!

commie said...

"drudge is an aggregator".and a flaming asshole just like you.....does not vet the links so all you get is unadulterated crap....just like you....asshole

caliphate4vr said...

SO FUCKING WHAT...!!!!!! Who cares what amazon headline would be....they are just as credible as breitbart and allahpundit....sad you think they matter!!!

Stupid Bezos bought WaPo

Fuck you’re dumb

commie said...

Stupid Bezos bought WaPo

SO FUCKING WHAT!!!!!! He don't make the headlines!!!! Can't believe you have nothing better to do!!!!!! Cause and effect is all you got....Idiot!!!

caliphate4vr said...

God damn you’re dumb

Pitiful really

lMAO

commie said...

God damn you’re dumb

And you are just a giant asshole.....idiot...


BTW....I really don't give a fuck what you think....I got my retirement....you still have to work and have nothing but SS and your shitty 401k....that's good enough for me...LOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

2016 the last lost year gdp = 1.5%
Denise who says he holds a MBA is saying that number is "barely above obama's last year..."

Really, so .
2018 GDP Qrt 1 = 2.0%
2018 GDP Qrt 2 = 4.2%

IF We take just those two qrts and divide them by 4 = 1.55%

Beating the Ebony Midas.

caliphate4vr said...

There we go fatty completely shits the bed, as always

LMAO

Anonymous said...

Denise, you act like you don't take out of Socialist in-Security.

Good for you If you don't.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He is not fit to be President.

The Woodward book is a Joke - just another assault against me, in a barrage of assaults, using now disproven unnamed and anonymous sources. Many have already come forward to say the quotes by them, like the book, are fiction. Dems can’t stand losing. I’ll write the real book!

He has previously said that Woodward was a marvelous author.

Scott said the he wrote the book to con me out of my money. And millions of other Americans.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott I actually read the editorial before you got told what to say in response from the President on Twitter dumbshit.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are claiming that second person comments are not important. In a court of law it's not admissible. But we are not in court.

As to his own actions, written or spoken are admissible in court. Especially in a grand Jury investigation. This is why his tweets may be a legal problem

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Woodward said that he has never seen any President who "is out of touch with reality".

Anonymous said...

Hi Roger, still living in that dump that is not yours?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You disagree with Woodward or you are calling him a liar. But you think that the President is not out of touch with reality. Do you actually believe him is in touch with reality? After you read this Scott do you still believe that he is in touch with reality?

The White House is a “smooth running machine.” We are making some of the biggest and most important deals in our country’s history - with many more to come! The Dems are going crazy!

Don't go down the street of we can't accept the fact that he was elected President. Try to see reality.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Are you still living on the ranch you inherited from your parents? Kput'z is not smart enough to have started his own business.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Opinions
Ignore Trump’s antics. Things only look worse. His actions are a clear and present danger.

President Trump at the White House on Aug. 23. (Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images)

By Eugene Robinson
Columnist
September 10 at 5:10 PM
President Trump’s antics in his “Crazytown” White House inevitably dominate the headlines. Meanwhile, however, his wrongheaded policies are damaging far more than the nation’s dignity and honor.

Hampered by inexperience and incompetence, the administration is pursuing a radically un-American agenda that should alarm progressives and conservatives alike. Trump’s warped worldview is guiding federal government policy, with awful — and worsening — consequences for the nation and the world.

A few lowlights:

● More than 2,600 children of would-be Latino immigrants were ripped from their families at the border and, as of last week, 416 remained in federal custody at facilities around the country. It is likely many will never see their parents again. This “zero-tolerance” policy of snatching kids and jailing their parents was intended as a deterrent, not as legitimate law enforcement, and it was an appalling exercise in gratuitous cruelty.
)


● Trump has reversed decades of environmental policy, adopting the 19th-century view that coal is the energy source of the future. He does not believe in climate change, though its effects are evident in rising seas, raging wildfires, deadly heat waves and the opening of heretofore undreamed-of shipping lanes in the Arctic. The administration seems determined to ensure that Europe, China and India reap the economic benefits of an inevitable global shift toward a clean-energy economy — while the United States misses out.

● Under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Justice Department has abandoned traditional civil rights enforcement. No longer is the focus on protecting and expanding the rights of minorities such as African Americans, women, Latinos and the LGBT community. Instead, the government is now more concerned about alleged “reverse discrimination,” and what it describes as threats to “religious freedom.” In particular, onerous voting laws that disproportionately affect minority groups are just fine with the Trump administration.

● White supremacist views have made their way into the mainstream of political discourse. “How hard can that be, saying that Nazis are bad?” former president Barack Obama asked last week. No answer from the White House thus far.

Good people on both sides Mr. Trump?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Guess what happened Scott?

Trump's Overall, polls show just 36% approve of the way the President is handling his job, down from 42% in August. Among independents, the drop has been sharper, from 47% approval last month to 31% now. That's 4 points below his previous 2018 low of 35% approval among political independents in CNN polling, and 1 point below his previous all-time low among independents in CNN polling, reached in November 2017.

I'm going to take a look at the Senate. If Cruz loses and the Democrats hold onto their seats or if a couple flips going both ways Pence would be the deciding vote on the major issues. And given his own ambitions he might be troubled by the President and could be interesting.

cowardly king obama said...

"Hitler was a very great man" Obama hidden selfie friend Farrakhan. Also called the black Hitler.

"God damn America" Obama life-long pastor

Obama friend and neighbor Bill Ayers co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communist revolutionary group with the intent to overthrow imperialism, that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings.

I'm sure Roger Amick will spend as much time and off-topic postings easily digging up more on this failed president.

After all how hard would it be for Mr Obama to say radical Islam terrorist??

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

“Trump has set Economic Growth on fire. During his time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible. GDP is growing at a 3 percent-plus rate. The unemployment rate is near a 50 year low.” CNBC...Also, the Stock Market is up almost 50% since Election!

Not even close.

cowardly king obama said...

"Blogger Roger Amick said...
“Trump has set Economic Growth on fire. During his time in office, the economy has achieved feats most experts thought impossible. GDP is growing at a 3 percent-plus rate. The unemployment rate is near a 50 year low.” CNBC...Also, the Stock Market is up almost 50% since Election!

Not even close. "

Actually this is correct but please supply the year within the last 50 you say is lower... this should be fun.

Hint even fake news CNN has to grudgingly agree: https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/06/01/news-stream-stout-hense-us-jobs-report-tariffs.cnn

C.H. Truth said...

Roger,

I believe The Vice President, General Mattis, and General Kelly.

I would ask you who you believe, but nobody knows the identity of the people you believe. They are completely anonymous.

So basically you believe third hand stories coming from people you don't even know who they are... and by proxy you declare the Vice President and two decorated Marine Generals to be liars.


Why would anyone, at anytime, believe third hand information that is directly reputed by three highly respected people?

The answer is quite simple in your case. Because you desperately "want" to believe these stories and are willing to believe what are essentially "stories".

cowardly king obama said...

It is beyond obvious that Roger has been brainwashed by TDS and the left-wing media.

He does believe Trump though.

At least when he said something off camera bragging about what he can get away with with women. Everything else, not so much.