- His critics hate him more
- His supporters support him more
Bottom line. Neither the book or the letter matter one bit in the grand scheme of things. The truth is that even if "anonymous" sources (real or imagined) stepped forward with tangible evidence of what they claim being true... it wouldn't much matter.
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| Still the President. Will still be the President! |
But the bigger reality is that "anonymous" sources (real or imagined) will neither step forward with tangible evidence or step out of the shadows and make their case for real. So as it stands right now, there is nothing "real" there. It's all a repeat of the fantastical views regarding the President by the left and ultimately these two pieces did nothing other than exactly what they were designed to do.
Rile up the anti-Trump crowd again.
Not that it takes much these days to do so. You just need to find someone else to repeat the same thing that has been said 1000 times before, and those impacted by TDS will immediately start to talk impeachment, 25th amendment, and all of their other late night fantasies about how to undo the 2016 election. I suspect that they generally fall off to sleep muttering to themselves, with drool dripping down their chins.
To Trump supporters, it simply reaffirms that there actually is a "deep state" that is part of the "resistance" and that the entire resistance is "still" throwing their collective temper tantrums a year and a half later. It also proves that none of these people have the guts to step forward, most likely because they simply wouldn't do very well under cross-examination.
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Like you say in case anyone needed it the NYT editorial just provided more proof that the deep state exists in Washington despite the mocking detractors on the left.
Shame on them and their supporters.
But they consider this "resistance" as patriotic.
Until the shoe is not falling but on the other foot.
And we've already had precedent of people authoring false commentaries about trump. Evidence, Christopher Steele, Lanny Davis, Peter Strzok
From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.
Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.
“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration https://nyti.ms/2CyF3Jh
Scott, you claim to have a higher level education. Rather than depend upon Fox News or the various right wing websites, read the entire article. You should be deeply concerned about the President.
This confirms the information inside Bob Woodward pending book Fear. You keep saying that the book is totally fiction and is just another way to make money and deceive the gullible liberals (socialists). He has betrayed almost every single conservative economic and foreign policy policy positions the Republican party has stood for.
Read the editorial.
This is not a coup. This is not designed to overturn the 2016 election. If this leads to the removal of the President, he would be replaced with a deeply conservative and mentally competent Mike Pence.
I GUESS THIS IS JUST SOME MORE FAKE NEWS
On the hunt for a betrayer, a 'volcanic' Trump lashes out
NBC News HALLIE JACKSON, KRISTEN WELKER, PETER ALEXANDER, STEPHANIE RUHLE AND MONICA ALBA
Sep 6th 2018 7:51AM
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump, forced to contend with the possibility that a senior member of his administration, along with others, may be trying to undermine his authority, erupted in private on Wednesday, according to multiple aides and allies familiar with his thinking. They described his mood as "volcanic."
An anonymous opinion article published in The New York Times earlier in the day, which the newspaper said was written by a senior administration official, asserted that a handful of appointees, serving at the highest levels of the Trump administration, consider the president to be "amoral," and on the precipice of dangerous decisions that could put the country at risk.
The president publicly described the editorial as "gutless" as his press secretary berated the "coward" who, she suggested, should resign.
The article followed published excerpts from a forthcoming book by Bob Woodward that included examples of Trump's own cabinet officials and senior aides balking at his orders, defying his commands and privately disparaging him to others.
The one-two punch comes as the FBI's investigation, led by special counsel Robert Mueller, heats up.
Over the summer,
the president's former campaign chairman was convicted,
his former lawyer pleaded guilty,
the chief financial officer of his private company was granted immunity
and a dozen Russian intelligence officers were indicted
— all stemming from an investigation into whether Trump's presidential campaign conspired with Russia.
Trump is also the subject of a separate criminal investigation into whether he obstructed justice.
The president has refused to be interviewed by the special counsel, though people familiar with his legal strategy are hopeful he may be able to answer a limited number of written questions related to the Russia probe.
On Wednesday, those close to the president said he was enraged by both the book and the anonymous opinion piece, and one senior administration official expressed anger at the "betrayal" by an unnamed colleague.
Some close to the president speculated the story could add fuel to the president's ongoing battle with the media.
Trump is "not just furious with the person (who wrote it) but furious The Times would run an unsigned op-ed," said one person close to the White House.
After staffers huddled behind closed doors in the minutes after the op-ed article was posted, strategizing a response, the president himself suggested on Twitter Wednesday that the author had committed treason. He then seemed to suggest that it was a fake.
Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
TREASON?
5:15 PM - Sep 5, 2018
onald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
Does the so-called “Senior Administration Official” really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!
FOR EXECUTION BY A FIRING SQUAD, PERHAPS?
Echoing a sentiment shared by a person familiar with the president's thinking, a former Trump aide suggested the op-ed was an attempted "coup."
"This is a coup. It's an administrative coup, a soft coup, a kooky coup, whatever you want to think," Michael Caputo told CNN.
White House officials, mounting a response reflecting intense anger at the article, said they did not know who wrote it. But finger-pointing was already underway, with questions about just how "senior" this official ultimately is. The New York Times did not respond to questions about how it characterized the op-ed's author.
A source familiar with the thinking inside the White House described the mood late Wednesday as one of closing ranks. "We're in this together and we're focused on the policy and the political travel that the president has coming up," the person said. "It's serious work that we're doing."
White House officials have spent much of the summer hunkered down amid an increasingly intensive FBI investigation and a string of foreign policy challenges from North Korea to trade negotiations to a collapsing Iran strategy.
The August death of Sen. John McCain, eulogized as an American hero though he was personally loathed by Trump, also cast a shadow on the presidency in recent weeks, stirring up resentments fueled by the president's initial refusal to bestow some of the markers of honor and national grief on a lifelong public servant and former prisoner of war.
One person close to the president said a reference to McCain in Wednesday's anonymous opinion article was a particular point of irritation for the president.
A former administration official still close to the White House expressed concerns that the mounting scandals and divisions plaguing the president would hamper any remaining legislative agenda remaining in the first term.
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And now he can fume and fuss about who revealed his reaction to the press.
Incompetent, and should be removed.
Blogger James said...
I GUESS THIS IS JUST SOME MORE FAKE NEWS
yep, hey the "pastor" finally got one right. and Roger considers an opinion piece about an anonymous editorial as worthwhile of spamming. And to attack the free press.
ROFLMFAO !!!
We have not seen any credible evidence that denies the actions and personality issues. He is very short tempered. Members of his own staff remove letters from his desk and that he in unaware about this.
In ways similar to the actions of the members of the Nixon administration who told the commanders in the Pentagon to not initiate any military operations without consulting with the secretary for defense.
Trump wanted to take out Assad. They acted to make sure we didn't quite possibly engaged in another military operation in the middle East.
This is "real".
the "pastor" is spamming so fast I can't keep up.
TALK ABOUT UNHINGED, just look at the rabid leftists here. And at the conformation hearing.
THANKS, you are being a GREAT HELP to Republicans.
ROFLMFAO !!!
meanwhile what the country cares about
WASHINGTON, Sept 6 (Reuters) - The number of Americans filing new claims for unemployment aid fell to near a 49-year low last week and private payrolls rose steadily in August, pointing to sustained labor market strength that should continue to underpin economic growth.
We've seen no evidence supporting the assertion. There's where the burden of proof lies. Not with trump having to disprove something that likely didn't happen.
49 year low.
How mentally unfit of him.
‘There Are Dozens and Dozens of Us’
“President Trump is not just seething about Bob Woodward. He’s deeply suspicious of much of the government he oversees — from the hordes of folks inside agencies, right up to some of the senior-most political appointees and even some handpicked aides inside his own White House,” officials tell Axios.
The big picture: He should be paranoid. In the hours after the New York Times published the anonymous op-ed from ‘a senior official in the Trump administration’ trashing the president, two senior administration officials reached out to Axios to say the author stole the words right out of their mouths.”
Said one senior official: “I find the reaction to the NYT op-ed fascinating — that people seem so shocked that there is a resistance from the inside. A lot of us were wishing we’d been the writer, I suspect … I hope he knows — maybe he does? — that there are dozens and dozens of us.”
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Playbook: “How is it sustainable for the president to operate in an environment in which he trusts nobody? We’re about to find out. And we’re about to find out during a critical period of legislating, with the backdrop of an election his party is somewhat likely to lose."
"Members of his own staff remove letters from his desk and that he in unaware about this. "
I have been putting all those letters back.
And please ignore any on the record comments by people like Kelley or Mattis. Doesn't fit your narrative. Just argue anonymous sources with anonymous sources.
Like CNN says apples to apples.
Scott instinctively believes:
Scott believes that a "Deep State" exists. It's trying to undermine him and in the case of Jeff Sessions’ Justice Department, in Scott’s "mind" is trying to overthrow his presidency.
The Bob Woodward book: Scott believes it exposes that leakers are everywhere and gunning for him.
His critics are patriotic.
His supporters are hypocritical cultists.
Hey Roger!
Hey James!
Such a wonderful day to be an American!
Jobless claims at all time lows!
New Supreme Court Justice right around the corner!
How are you guys doing!?!
Scott instinctively believes:
Anonymous sources are a creation of the massive fake News conspiracy and the deep state. They are fictional people.
I'm real as can be.
And totally honest and without an agenda.
And Dear Santa, please give me a bike for Christmas.
See, Santa is a socialist and real.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
We have not seen any credible evidence that denies the actions and personality issues.
we haven't seen any credible evidence that supports those claims either. what we HAVE seen are books and op-ed's all mysteriously written or supported by anonymous sources, cowards all.
you would think that if these folks were so sure of themselves and their beliefs they would have the courage of their convictions to speak out publicly in the light of day.
only TDS sufferers take this shit seriously.
Well Roger...
An anonymous source who whines and complains while providing no tangible examples of anything specific. I have no issue believing such a person exists.
But it
just
doesn't
matter
Sorry!
How about that Judge Kavanaugh! Looking good, huh?
The rise of post-truth liberalism
Anonymous sources are a creation of the massive fake News conspiracy and the deep state. They are fictional people.
oh alky, i truly suspect that at least some of them exist. but they exist with little to no credibility. they're cowards.
look at the irony - they claim to be standing up for something they believe in, and that they are warning us while working within the white house to fix things and save us from trump...
yet they lack the balls to identify themselves.
that basically makes them a traitorous spy, alky. working within a legally elected administration to overthrow it.
we call that a coup.
the identity of this person will become known at some point, and i sincerely hope that every single legal measure is taken to ruin and destroy this individual. may s/he be driven to suicide.
I note that the author said there are 'dozens and dozens of us'. The word choice tells us something. First, the federal govt employs hundreds of thousands. So a couple dozen isn't quite the big deal its made out to be.
Secondly, dozens and dozens is an imprecise expression. He could have said scores. He could have said over 50 or something. But he didn't. This suggests that he is in a role that doesn't require precision as a normal personality characteristic. It also suggests that the author is at a level less than senior. He refers to himself as part of the team and not some form of leader of it.
Thoughts?
President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.
It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.
The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
I would know. I am one of them.
To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.
That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
A true American patriot.
I think that it's Dan Coats the director of the National intelligence agency.
I think that it's Dan Coats the director of the National intelligence agency.
Nope - talked to Dan this morning, Rog. Not him. Says he will kick the shit out of the coward who wrote it though, when that person is exposed. Not sure if that helps narrow it down
Try again!
Updated September 6, 2018, 10:45 a.m.: Dan Coats has issued a statement denying he wrote the op-ed. "Speculation that The New York Times op-ed was written by me or my Principal Deputy is patently false," reads the statement. "We did not. From the beginning of our tenure, we have insisted that the entire IC remain focused on our mission to provide the President and policymakers with the best intelligence possible."
I heard it was Bob Smith.
Ok. One more down off the list.
Pompeo is another accused who has denied. So far everyone who has been directly accused (other than Larry Kudlow) has denied it.
So far everyone who has been directly accused (other than Larry Kudlow) has denied it.
Are you naive enough to think someone will admit it????? Please...I know a bridge for sale in brooklyn....fool...
Its s lower level bureaucrat
Are you naive enough to think someone will admit it?
Are you naive enough to think whoever wrote it has to be someone we actually have heard of?
The person revealed their own politics which fits almost nobody Trump has nominated to high level positions. The person reveals the fact that they are at least one layer separate from those who actually interact with the President. Lastly their reference to the amount of people who are of their same kindred spirit, suggests it's likely someone from one of various Federal agencies. A "top official" could be defined as any one of hundreds of officials.
lol
Dozens and dozens would be at least 48.
(Dozens at least 24
and dozens at least 24)
Statement after statement indicates that
there are a LOT of perturbed people who
have the misfortune of having to put up
with this sad excuse for an executive.
"Eric Hartmane @erichartmane ·
So Cory Booker's bombshell hit on Kavanaugh is that he was a Republican opposed to profiling by race during the aftermath 9/11. Thank you for bringing this to light, senator!"
So the unhinged cockroach lefties are scurrying about with yet another shoe that isn't. Go back to apples and bananas.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Nobody wants to see this but just think about if this man who was elected President by a minority of Americans, continues to confuse issues of critical importance to the safety of the country.
I'm not criticizing the economic recovery from the Great Recession under President Bush. Mr Trump has been the President while the economy has improved dramatically. I think that the deficit will increase dramatically and could lead us into inflation, but this isn't enough to justify ignoring many other issues.
If you refuse to believe the upcoming book by Bob Woodward has any basis in fact, well, you will just ignore what appears to be the actions of the President that can endanger our country and the lives of our children and grandchildren.
The other anecdote is Trump's comments about Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who passed away a week and a half ago. In Woodward's telling, Trump was at a dinner with military leaders, including Mattis and Marine Corps Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when he suggested McCain had been given an early release as a prisoner of war in Vietnam because of his father's military rank, a four-star admiral.
This is quite the opposite of the actual events: McCain turned down early release. And in fact, that may be the single biggest reason he is viewed as an American hero, because it meant he served for more than five years as a POW. Mattis had to correct Trump, according to Woodward, by saying, “No, Mr. President. I think you've got it reversed.” Trump responded: “Oh, okay."
But again, the timing is key. The dinner was held Feb. 8, 2017, shortly after Trump had been inaugurated. Just a year and a half earlier, Trump had caused arguably his first major splash of the 2016 campaign by attacking McCain's war-hero bona fides. It was a major early inflection point in his 2015-16 Republican primary campaign. The men had a history, as well: Trump had questioned McCain's war-hero status back in 1999 and tangled with McCain regularly. How he could be so unaware of perhaps the seminal event in McCain's life — and the one which directly pertains to a war-hero debate in which Trump participated in an extremely high-profile way just a couple years ago? It is inexplicable.
It's tempting to view Trump's conspiracy theorizing and falsehoods as a show or even a strategy. Perhaps he's doing it for the base! This anecdote suggests he's really just ill-informed, even about major issues in which he inserts himself. Either that or he's so committed to this ruse that he even makes himself out to be ill-informed behind closed doors with military leaders.
And combined with the South Korea story, it paints the picture of a man who indeed has lots of questions — probably more than he should.
Please don't refer to any previous President. That is irrelevant to the world of today.
The rest of the story about Korea should scare the shit out of you.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/05/most-overlooked-inexplicable-stories-bob-woodwards-trump-book/
You are claiming that you actually spoke this morning with Dan Coats?
Trump's denials of the stories in Bob Woodward's new book on Wednesday turned to tacit admission: Trump may be an unwieldy boss, he seemed to admit, but that's part of why Americans elected him. No matter how or what I have done I have done what you elected me to do.
"I’m tough as hell on people & if I weren’t, nothing would get done,” Trump tweeted. “Also, I question everybody & everything-which is why I got elected!"
The guy actually believes that he is the greatest President in the history of the United States.
The worst part of this is that you believe this bullshit.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You are claiming that you actually spoke this morning with Dan Coats?
CH DID speak with coates, alky. i have it on excellent anonymous authority from a senior official close to the situation.
take it to the fucking bank. or the ny times. whatever.
stop plagiarizing, alky:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/05/most-overlooked-inexplicable-stories-bob-woodwards-trump-book/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ff13bb720e06
You are claiming that you actually spoke this morning with Dan Coats?
Well it was a conference call with myself, Dan, Donald, Don Jr, Mike P, and the other Mike P.
We were talking about you again.
The anonymous op-ed writer is Omorisa. 😁
I have it from a high ranking source in the Mueller team they were listening in on this call as was an anonymous Russian.
Hillary got an email about it but has already bleached it.
NYT is about to drop this as a shoe.
SHOCKING !!!
The next shoe to drop will no longer be a Nike.
Top intel chief Coats denies being author of anonymous NYT op-ed"
What say you Alky?
You flatty stated he was the author.
The two faces os Alky
Roger AmickSeptember 5, 2018 at 9:47 PM
Dan Coats is the author of the editorial.
@Lawrence"
Shifting goal posts of Alky.Roger AmickSeptember 6, 2018 at 9:46 AM
I think that it's Dan Coats the director of the National intelligence agency"
Coats said in public it is not him.
Great source there cali.....makes above top secret look good!!!!
The rise of post-truth liberalism
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@unherd
Challenging herd-like thinking and platforming people, communities and thinking that go unheard.
John Gray is a non descript author with no bio who tweets just like trump....sad very sad...
You flatty stated he was the author.
No he didn't goat fucker....He said he thought he was the author....the cite is his, the words are @ lawrence....you truly are a dumb fuck and the right should be proud you are on their losing side...
There ya go fatty
Academic career
Gray was born into a working-class family, with a docker-turned-carpenter father,[4] in South Shields, which was then in County Durham. He attended South Shields Grammar-Technical School for Boys from 1959 until 1967,[5] then studied at Exeter College, Oxford, reading Philosophy, Politics and Economics (PPE), completing his B.A., M.Phil. and D.Phil.
He formerly held posts as lecturer in political theory at the University of Essex, fellow and tutor in politics at Jesus College, Oxford, and lecturer and then professor of politics at the University of Oxford. He has served as a visiting professor at Harvard University (1985–86) and Stranahan Fellow at the Social Philosophy and Policy Center, Bowling Green State University (1990–1994), and has also held visiting professorships at Tulane University’s Murphy Institute (1991) and Yale University (1994). He was Professor of European Thought at the London School of Economics and Political Science until his retirement from academic life in early 2008.
making a fool of yourself as usual
Just like our esteemed host, trump also thinks he is doing a great job as he soars in the polls of his own mind....LOLOL!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/09/06/trumps-dipping-approval-is-putting-republicans-in-dangerous-territory/?utm_term=.60fdac3e2ad6
“We’re doing a great job,” said President Trump yesterday in a surprise endorsement of his own success. “The poll numbers are through the roof. Our poll numbers are great. And guess what? Nobody is going to come close to beating me in 2020 because of what we’ve done.”
Although Trump can always be counted on to testify to his unblemished record of winning, it was odd that he chose to focus on poll numbers right at the moment, because one place they are not going is “through the roof.”
In fact, Trump’s numbers are dropping to near the lowest point of his presidency. In the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, Trump’s approval is at 36 percent, and a majority of respondents strongly disapprove of his performance. An IBD/TIPP poll also puts him at 36 percent. The Economist shows him at 38 percent. Some others have him above 40 (Gallup’s latest is 41), but not by much.
This isn’t a dramatic swing, but it is an identifiable downturn, especially since Trump’s approval ratings have been so stable over the course of his presidency. And if there were ever a moment when a small change could make a big difference, this is it.
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
There ya go fatty
Just like I said, no bio....Idiot as I give you another hearty chuckle...That's like you claiming you have creds....LOLOLOLOL
I guess I should have looked under philosopher instead of commentator.....Yeah....that's a whole lot better....above top secret makes Gray trivial... Dayum you are a fucking .idiot..
Cali should read up on people he cites....seems to me Gray is a british whacko......whose philosophy fits right in with cali's own belief he should kick teeth down peoples throats....what a frat boy!!!! Need to again to compliment pauline on another bullshit post that he really didn't read....
The term agonistic liberalism appears in Gray's 1995 book Isaiah Berlin. Gray uses this phrase to describe what he believes is Berlin's theory of politics, namely his support for both value pluralism and liberalism.
More generally, agonistic liberalism could be used to describe any kind of liberalism which claims that its own value commitments do not form a complete vision of politics and society, and that one instead needs to look for what Berlin calls an "uneasy equilibrium" between competing values. In Gray's view, many contemporary liberal theorists would fall into this category, for instance John Rawls and Karl Popper.[citation needed]
Agonistic liberalism is an alternative to Berlin's theory of value pluralism and liberalism. While Berlin claimed equal validity for conflicting liberal views, agonistic liberalism holds that over time solutions may be found that determine which values are correct.[15]
Agonistic liberalism is the theory that conflict rather than discussion is the basis of social change.[16]
God you're boring
God you're boring
And you are still an asshole and goat fucker.....
.....whose philosophy fits right in with cali's own belief he should kick teeth down peoples throats....
Fatty I gave you a date and time to show up, you’re the gutless wonder to scared to show. But with your advanced age and plastic hips I don’t blame you for only having courage behind a keyboard in anonymity
All fat, no cattle
LMAO
"All fat, no cattle
LMAO"
Nice.
Alky, if I made so little income that as you said you only get less then "$300" a year tax break from the Trump tax cut I would do something about it.
This campaign speech in Billings Montana is a sign of mental illness.
https://youtu.be/BHm-dbFlzaY
Anonymous "Ananias" was what Trump said., John Tester is in the lead and Trump isn't going to help. The people behind him were actually rolling their eyes at some of his comments on the failing New York times.
Idiot I only pay income taxes on my pension from California. I got an extra $23.00 more.
0.00766666666% increase
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