This sort of reminds me of the whole "good people on both sides" argument. While she appears to make a statement that is offensive (that she got a calming feeling when she thinks about the holocaust), that statement really cannot be taken on its own. Similar to people wanting to ignore Trump flat out stating that Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists should be condemned, Tliab also acknowledges that there was a "horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time" and she refers to the time after the Holocaust as "post-tragedy". So I don't believe she is a holocaust denier and I don't think she necessarily meant to minimize it.
All that being said, her argument is historically and factually incorrect. The idea that the State of Israel didn't really exist (prior to Jews migrating there post WWII) does minimize the validity of the Israeli state. The idea that Palestinians welcomed the Jews after the Holocaust is also a very dubious claim. She makes the Palestinians out to be heros, while providing the opinion that Jews had no actual claim to Israel.
I think it's okay to criticize Tlaib on this. She certainly makes no attempts to keep a low profile, and she seems to make statements that invite this sort of controversy. No question this will be an ongoing issue. But I think it's wrong to attack her as a Holocaust denier based on the overall statements she made in this instance.
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Dumbest guy who ever held the office.
The thing to keep in mind about President Trump, as he thrashes around like a weak swimmer in a strong current, is that he has no idea what he’s doing. None. Not a clue.
I know that he can be clever politically, in a tactical sense. I know that his lies are often both deliberate and effective. I know that his utter shamelessness can sometimes come off as some kind of warped genius. But the only thing that’s profound about Trump is the truly spectacular depth of his ignorance. As evidence, take a glance — if you dare — at your 401(k).
The president’s decision last week to unilaterally boost tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese imports produced an entirely predictable response — retaliatory tariffs from Beijing on $60 billion worth of U.S. products, a freakout by the financial markets and a screaming plunge in the Dow and other major indexes.
The administration’s trade talks with China had reportedly been going well and were supposed to be nearing an end. Trump accused the Chinese of trying to renege on concessions at the last minute, but the president’s history suggests otherwise. Veterans of the high-stakes world of New York real estate have told me about what they described as Trump’s standard negotiating practice — pitching some kind of fit at the very last minute, when the other party thought things were settled, in hopes of bullying his way to a better deal.
That might work with a subcontractor who doesn’t have the power to say no, or even with a fellow developer who vows on the spot never to do business with Trump again. But would any skilled negotiator think such a stunt would work with China, the world’s second-greatest economic power? Wouldn’t the Chinese government have to react in kind, if only as a matter of sovereign pride? And wouldn’t startled investors conclude that their fear of a serious trade war — the kind with no winners, only losers — had been realized?
I assume Trump realizes that China isn’t really “paying” the tariffs and that the cost is in fact borne by U.S. consumers, who will pay higher prices for made-in-China goods. Either the president constantly lies about this on his Twitter feed, hoping to fool the gullible, or he’s even more clueless about trade than I imagined.
Here are a few confident predictions: In the end, Trump will have succeeded only in further spooking the skittish financial markets. If there is a U.S.-China deal, it will be no more favorable — perhaps less favorable, I fear — than the deal Trump could have gotten before his little power play. And if there’s not a deal, well, the president will spend the summer trying to badger the Federal Reserve into cutting interest rates in an attempt to keep the economy from sliding into recession.
Meanwhile, Trump will scramble to ease the pain he is causing his red-state supporters to suffer. He said Monday he would somehow channel billions of dollars in what amount to welfare payments to farmers whose livelihood depends on selling soybeans and other products to China. This is typical Trump — make a mess, then try to clean it up. It is no way to run a mom-and-pop store, let alone a great nation.
It was Jeb Bush who warned that Trump would be “a chaos president,” and he was right. Alas for the world, the administration’s willy-nilly approach extends beyond trade policy.
One of Trump’s most significant foreign-policy decisions was to withdraw last year from the nuclear deal that the Obama administration had reached with Iran — even though the Trump administration acknowledged that the Iranians had been faithful to the agreement. Iran and other signatories are still observing the 2015 deal’s terms, yet Trump has steadily increased U.S. pressure on the Iranian economy. But to what end?
Predictably, Tehran is bristling. As tensions rise, world leaders have become concerned that the United States and Iran could bluster and blunder their way into armed hostilities. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo crashed a meeting of European Union foreign ministers Monday to ease the diplomats’ fears. Reportedly, he failed.
No one can have any confidence that this administration has thought out a step-by-step plan for anything. Look at the situation in Venezuela. There, the administration took a page from the Obama playbook — multilateralism — and assembled an impressive coalition of nations to demand President Nicolás Maduro’s ouster. But the effort to depose Maduro has failed, and he retains the support of the powerful military. Now what?
There are many fitting words to describe the Trump administration. One of the simplest is “dumb.”
Eugene Robinson
My taken on its own.
Similar to people wanting to ignore Trump flat out stating that Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists are good people,
What a fucking hack.
Roger - I think you are the only person left in American still hanging onto the silly "good people on both sides" argument. Most everyone else has conceded that he didn't praise neo-nazis or white supremacists.
Since you are such a pack follower, I would think you would be following that as well.
Eugene Robinson, never wrote a negative article about Obama or a positive one about Trump. Maybe I should post Hannity is response.
Yeah Rog...
A political opinion journalist explaining to a billionaire and President of the United states how "all things money" work?
Gotta listen to that WaPo hack?
22 Steve Bullock enters the donk race
Rod Rosenstien vs. Dirty COP Comey.
Are fighting in public. Very enjoyable.
Obama/Biden knew what the CIA , FBI and D OJ did.
My 401 K, 457b, 529 and defined benefit are all doing very well.
Roger, did Mail Order fleece you for half of your accounts?
What type of souvenirs are selling in gift shops representing Trump?
Mushroom dildos made in China.
What nonsense ,Roger are you ok. Is that why Mail Order left you, you desire to use "dildos"?
More fake science you idiots can call fake.....BWAAAAAA!!!
There is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than there has been for 800,000 years — since before our species evolved.
On Saturday (May 11), the levels of the greenhouse gas reached 415 parts per million (ppm), as measured by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii. Scientists at the observatory have been measuring atmospheric carbon dioxide levels since 1958. But because of other kinds of analysis, such as those done on ancient air bubbles trapped in ice cores, they have data on levels reaching back 800,000 years. [8 Ways Global Warming Is Already Changing the World]
During the ice ages, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere were around 200 ppm. And during the interglacial periods — the planet is currently in an interglacial period — levels were around 280 ppm, according to NASA.
But every story has its villains: Humans are burning fossil fuels, causing the release of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, which are adding an extra blanket on an already feverish planet. So far, global temperatures have risen by about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree Celsius) since the 19th century or pre-industrial times, according to a special report released last year by the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Every year, the Earth sees about 3 ppm more carbon dioxide in the air, said Michael Mann, a distinguished professor of meteorology at Penn State University. "If you do the math, well, it's pretty sobering," he said. "We'll cross 450 ppm in just over a decade."
The subsequent warming is already causing changes to the planet — shrinking glaciers, bleaching coral reefs and intensifying heat waves and storms, among other impacts. And carbon dioxide levels higher than 450 ppm "are likely to lock in dangerous and irreversible changes in our climate," Mann told Live Science.
My 401 K, 457b, 529 and defined benefit are all doing very well.
Sure they are goat fucker....he who thought retail were stocks to buy!!!!!!
Tough to have a defined plan when you never had a job in your menial life......BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
So slow Joe says investigating his son is a personal attack. Meanwhile Trump, Trump Jr and Ivanka laugh at the outrage.
@RealSaavedra
Ryan Saavedra Retweeted Ilhan Omar
David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK, said that Ilhan Omar is the most important member of Congress because of her hatred for Israel/Jews
Omar has not disavowed Duke’s endorsement of her
I notice creepy Joe is sniffing Luddite Cortez' s hair.
Seems she believe she is the social Warrier of the Green Fake Deal.
Omar has not disavowed Duke’s endorsement of her
Why would she? Duke was always a Democrat in good standing. Voted for fellow KKK imperial wizard Robert Byrd.
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