So Democrats are currently making the argument that an investigation into a candidate for office is considered a "thing of value" and therefor a violation of campaign finance laws. Apparently the term "investigation" is interchangeable with the term "dig up dirt".
For purposes of campaign laws "a thing of value" can be provided legally by U.S. citizens as long as the value does not exceed campaign finance limits. No "thing of value" can be provided legally by any foreign entity.
So how much is an investigation worth? Was Barack Obama, Loretta Lynch, James Comey and gang guilty of providing campaign funds to Hillary Clinton by investigating Donald Trump and his team in 2016? When Obama, Lynch, and others met with the Ukrainians to coordinate an investigation into Trump's campaign manager, wouldn't that also be a solicitation of a "thing of value" from a foreign source?
Logically something is either a "thing of value" or it's not. If investigating a candidate for President is a "thing of value" then no foreign power can ever investigate anyone (or apparently anyone closely associated with that person) from the United States who happens to be running (or may run) for any office. That investigation would constitute election interference.
That would mean that any coordination between our law enforcement and any foreign power would be considered an illegal act (by our law enforcement) if the people they are investigating are running for office. The very law enforcement people responsible for investigating could be brought up on charges for conspiring with a foreign entity to break campaign finance laws. Probably everyone from the administrators, supervisors, and the rank and file investigators.
In essence, running for office basically provides a person with a get out of jail free card, because it would be illegal (as a violation of campaign funds) for them to be investigated.
Lastly, it would mean that Donald Trump can no longer be investigated. Any investigation into him provides a "thing of value" to his political opponent, and therefor would be a violation of campaign laws. The entire impeachment effort could not cost more than the amount of money each member of the Democratic caucus is eligible to provide to his opponent. Let them pool their money and that is their budget. The moment that the cost of that investigation goes over that amount, then each and every member of the Democratic caucus would be guilty of campaign finance laws.
If all of this sounds stupid to you, it's because it is stupid. Investigations are not, never have been, and never should be considered a "thing of value" for campaign purposes. If they were, then that particular concept would have come up at least once or twice before Donald Trump and 2019. Moreover the word "investigation" is not actually interchangeable with "digging up dirt". They are two entirely different concepts.
Liberals are being gas-lighted and brainwashed into ignoring this basic logic. Why? Do I even have to say it? Trump derangement syndrome.

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Trump derangement syndrome.
From the conservative National Review:
'Just this week, the same people who insisted that Trump would never collude with a foreign nation for his political interest are now defending collusion with a foreign nation for his political interest. The people who turn crimson with rage when you point out Trump’s decades of corrupt business practices now insist his only interest in the Bidens is his concern about corruption. They say it’s outrageous that Biden’s son sat on the board of a Ukrainian company when Biden was vice president, but they also say it’s fine to have a daughter and son-in-law duo running vast swaths of foreign and domestic policy while also making a fortune from their business interests around the world. Enemies are sinful or decadent when they lie or cheat on their wives, but who are you to judge Comrade Trump?
There’s no halfway defensible ideological, intellectual, or moral standard that Trump doesn’t violate, often routinely. A cult of personality that replies “Trump’s right” or “his enemies are worse” before the question is even asked is the only place to hide.
A doctrine of infallibility is the only defense of this deeply fallible man.'
You are not denying any of the allegations of Presidential conduct.
You have Trump derangement syndrome.
The same mental gymnastics necessary to believe that authoritarianism by this President, that troubled the founding fathers, who created three coequal branches of government.
This President has admitted in public, to have committed high crimes and misdemeanors.
The Constitution requires that the legislative branch to conduct an impeachment trial and the Senate to convict and remove him from office.
What may or may not happened previously matters.
This President has admitted in public, to have committed high crimes and misdemeanors.
The Constitution requires that the legislative branch to conduct an impeachment trial and the Senate to convict and remove him from office.
Steve Bannon said that your belief in the deep state conspiracy is bullshit.
Bannon, who served as Trump’s White House chief strategist after leading his campaign across the finish line, argues in a new book “Deep State: Trump, the FBI and the Rule of Law” that the conspiracy theory should not be taken seriously, reported The Guardian.
“(The) deep state conspiracy theory is for nut cases,” Bannon told author James B. Stewart. “America isn’t Turkey or Egypt.”
Steve Bannon calls Scott A**hole a nut case.
'' If any one out there has some good dirt on my political opponents. if and when delivered the usa will complie with past agreements and treaties...''
In your deranged mind, "investigation" is not actually interchangeable with "digging up dirt". They are two entirely different concepts.
Absolutely untrue. Conducting a politically motivated investigation is digging up dirt that can be used against a potential political opponent is solicitation.
"No "thing of value" can be provided legally by any foreign entity."
@dkahanerules
Excellent editorial in the @WSJ about the Democrats' continuing war on the Constitution. Lincoln should have outlawed this party the day Democrat Robert E. Lee surrendered to Republican Ulysses S. Grant. Alas, a week later, a Democrat killed him.
The Whistleblower Executive
Every call with a foreign leader is now subject to congressional review.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-whistleblower-executive-11570056633
@steph93065
Replying to @Jim_Jordan @seanmdav @RepAdamSchiff
LEAK the transcript.
Play THEIR game. You guys are sitting here playing by the rules while the Democrats play by no rules at all.
This is war, act like it.
While the democrats keep projecting everything they did on the Republicans its time to actually do what dems do.
"No "thing of value" can be provided legally by any foreign entity."
What do the donks say about this???? Oh yeah, "No controlling legal authority".
Unemployment 3.5 % , 50 year low.
and these Economic Fucktards said :
"mediocre jobs report ⬆️135,000" Denny
". economy added a modest 136,000 jobs" Suicidial Roger
Nick Akerman, a former Watergate prosecutor, recently said, “What he’s been saying in public is the kind of thing I used to prosecute people for doing in private.” Akerman made that comment two weeks ago. The problem is far worse now.
Roger is the undisputed Spam queen.
It shall be unlawful for--
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-52-voting-and-elections/52-usc-sect-30121.html
He solicited a contribution, dirt on Biden from a foreign national.
lowest unemployment rate for Blacks since they started to record these facts.
KansasDemocrat said...
Roger is the undisputed Spam queen.
just a combination of TDS and anxiety disorder with what's coming
HINT - It's NOT removal by impeachment.
I think the left is going to have a BUNCH more HEALTH ISSUES
"The Washington Post’s “Fact Checker” column hit House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) with four Pinocchios Friday for falsely claiming that his panel had “not spoken directly” with the partisan CIA officer behind a so-called “whistleblower” complaint about President Donald Trump."
Fund Raising.
Bernie Sanders is in 1st Place.
@seanmdav
Who is leading Schiff's impeachment charge against Trump? A Kavanaugh truther and Steele dossier truther who claimed Cohen went to Prague, the dossier had never been "undermined," and that the FBI would have been "derelict" not to use it in a spy warrant.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/04/adam-schiff-tapped-former-msnbc-contributor-to-question-key-ukraine-envoy/
and behind closed doors...
RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPT ! COUP ATTEMPT 2, of course to be followed by COUP ATTEMPT 3, COUP ATTEMPT 4 etc maybe Hollywood is involved.
"Biden’s campaign announced on Thursday it only raised $15.2 million in the third quarter, significantly less than expected. The sum was less than what was raised by competitors polling below Biden, such as Sen. Bernie Sanders and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg — who raised $25.3 million and $19.1 million, respectively, in the same period."
Trump = $ 125 million
Obama Campaign Rakes In Millions In Illegal Foreign Cash
Piss off liver
He said that he has the absolute right to solicit help from foreign countries.
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails [by Hillary Clinton] that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Moscow responded by hacking Hillary Clinton’s server that very day.
He was the candidate.
5 year old allegations
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails [by
He also said he wants a moat with sharks armed with fricking laser beams
You unhinged loser
@RepMarkMeadows
There's a reason why Adam Schiff released cherry-picked text messages and not the transcript of the Volker interview. It's because he's misleading. Again.
The actual interview directly undermined Democrats' impeachment effort.
Release the transcript. Show Americans the truth.
so roger proves he thinks Hillary had over 30,000 yoga emails and reviewed and deleted them and then hired a firm to obliterate anyone's ability to reconstruct them easily... while they were under subpoena.
Of course there are other ways to see if she was being truthful and if a real investigation was done... emails have both a sender and receiver...
@LindseyGrahamSC
Democrat House members cannot be allowed to hide behind @SpeakerPelosi when it comes to an impeachment inquiry of President @realdonaldTrump.
They should – and must – vote to open an inquiry of impeachment so their CONSTITUENTS, COUNTRY, and HISTORY can evaluate their actions.
@C_3C_3
Polls are no longer believed.
The News is no longer believed.
Whistleblowers are no longer believed.
Sexual Assault victims are no longer believed.
Congratulations Democrats. Legacy.
politics over facts and country (and even religion)
The Trump strategy is to confuse the facts underlying impeachment until the public gives up, with help from Fox News and Congressional Republicans.
top Trending search on Google
"biden bragging about ukraine video"
yes that's it
Oh and I loved "i saw the Beatles live in 63 on the ed sullivan show"
fucking moron
When the only American citizen President Trump singles out for China’s investigation is his political opponent in the midst of the Democratic nomination process, it strains credulity to suggest that it is anything other than politically motivated.
By all appearances, the President’s brazen and unprecedented appeal to China and to Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden is wrong and appalling.
The former Governor of Massachusetts and the Republican candidate for President against President Obama.
https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1180151212030779392?s=19
Gee I was a few months wrong.
The Beatles' First Appearance on “The Ed Sullivan Show,” 1964. On Feb. 9, 1964, The Beatles made their first live U.S. television appearance. More than 70 million Americans gathered around their televisions to watch four young men from Liverpool make history.Feb 9, 2012
The Beatles' First Appearance on “The Ed Sullivan Show,” 1964. On Feb. 9, 1964, The Beatles made their first live U.S. television appearance. More than 70 million Americans gathered around their televisions to watch four young men from Liverpool make history.Feb 9, 2012
My dad couldn't believe how long their hair was!
Roger Amick said...
Gee I was a few months wrong.
"i saw the Beatles live in 63 on the ed sullivan show"
I think he was talking about you saying LIVE when it was on TV...
exactly
@seanmdav
We obtained a copy of Kurt Volker's testimony before the House yesterday. It directly contradicts the Democrat impeachment narrative and completely blows it out of the water. You can read his full testimony here.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/04/testimony-from-ukraine-envoy-kurt-volker-directly-contradicts-democrats-impeachment-narrative/
I obviously haven't read it myself yet but thank God republicans are finally fighting back and exposing the dems for what they are trying to do again.
Hopefully Trump sends Pelosi the "impeachment" letter rumored to be coming.
https://youtu.be/yM9YO6_dFJ4
Lunatic
- Democrats spent the entire 2016 election campaign investigating Trump.
- They used Intelligence resources, used foreign resources from multiple countries (including the Ukraine)
- They've continued to investigate him since he became President
- They are planning on investigating him right straight through this election
All while making the argument that investigations of political candidates are "a thing of value" and illegal under campaign finance laws. And their shit for brains supports lap up every damned poor excuse for reasoning that they continue to come up with.
Morons! Morons! Morons!
In 1963 we didn't have "live" television in Rapid City South Dakota. But we did see the first performance by The Beatles on a 12" black and white television!
@JohnWHuber
Undercover Huber Retweeted ABC News
Compare and contrast the demeanor of Barr and Brennan. Confident versus worried.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1179821218465058816
democrats are obviously projecting their "unhinged" and "worried" comments. Barr looks real confident that he has the "nuts" and he knows how to play poker.
Not like the lightweight in the white house previously who famously said "don't call my bluff".. and he was just full of bluff
Using the actions of the previous administration as a distraction about the actions of the current President is the strategy to convince Morons! Morons! Morons! that the current President has not committed high crimes and misdemeanors.
C.H. Truth said...
- Democrats spent the entire 2016 election campaign investigating Trump.
- They used Intelligence resources, used foreign resources from multiple countries (including the Ukraine)
- They've continued to investigate him since he became President
- They are planning on investigating him right straight through this election
All while making the argument that investigations of political candidates are "a thing of value" and illegal under campaign finance laws. And their shit for brains supports lap up every damned poor excuse for reasoning that they continue to come up with.
Pretty basic, but apparently TDS blinds and causes brain freeze.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Trump derangement syndrome.
From the conservative National Review:
this is news to you alky?
NR has been prominently AGAINST trump since he announced his candidacy. the entire line-up of contributors with the exception of VDH are virulently anti-trump.
in fact, david french was enlisted by bill kristol at the last minute to run against trump for president.
you know as much about conservative media as you do about the law. or about milk cattle ranching. so don't even think about lecturing us about NR.
jamb your tongue back into kevin drum's asscrack where it was when you woke up this morning.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Using the actions of the previous administration as a distraction about the actions of the current President...
it's called a precedent and a benchmark, alky.
you should know because you were there... with 0linsky's nutsack resting on your chin the whole time.
Yes...
Our laws are entirely based on precedent and how we have previously interpreted things to be. The American Constitution is designed to make sure that everyone is treated the same way.
This means that Democrats cannot use law enforcement to their own political advantage and then try to call it a crime when they don't like the way the other side is using their investigative authority.
Roger believes that you can just "make up new crimes" when you don't like someone. He also believes that pointing out that the same behavior was never a crime in the past (as in never, ever, ever, ever, never) - he calls it a distraction.
but that is likely a fairly accurate description for him. When someone is suffering from cognitive dissonance, they are irritated and want to "swat away" reasonable arguments that bust up their beliefs. Cognitive dissonance is the brains way of swatting away a fly that is distracting you from what you would rather be concentrating on.
So when Roger decides that we cannot compare past behavior with current behavior to determine right and wrong (when it's absolutely the only logical manner to do so) and he calls it a distraction... it's simply because he is suffering from Cognitive dissonance.
He might as well just say... hey Obama's actions don't matter cause they hurt my argument, so stop bringing it up cause it's giving me a headache trying to reconcile this in my own feeble excuse for a brain.
but that is likely a fairly accurate description for him. When someone is suffering from cognitive dissonance, they are irritated and want to "swat away" reasonable arguments that bust up their beliefs. Cognitive dissonance is the brains way of swatting away a fly that is distracting you from what you would rather be concentrating on.
and this is why i am completely convinced that the alky is certifiably mentally ill.
you would think that someone who has been burned by several "sure things" as in we really got him this time!!!11! would finally come to the realization that in spite of all the hatred, in spite of all the claims of wrongdoing, in spite of the stage IV TDS, trump continues to prevail in every case and his enemies continue to get it wrong.
@TimRunsHisMouth
You know if it actually gets to an impeachment trial that the Republicans are calling Hillary Clinton to testify, right?
There will be a popcorn shortage in America.
And I brilliantly loaded up beforehand PLEAZE!!!!
@TimRunsHisMouth
Q: HOLD UP! How'd you get the info on Manafort's dirty dealings with Ukraine if it's wrong to work with other countries on political investigations?
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1179972282149691392
Ch, why did you never give us a line by line comparison of the transcript with the whistleblower's statement.
You SAID they did not agree. So why did you never prove it by simply putting the two texts side by side or one after the other?
"pastor" the whistleblower even says he was not on the call.
his statement doesn't even try to align with the transcript. He never goes into any detail. Why do you think what you are describing makes any sense?
You obviously haven't even looked at one or more likely both.
Why don't you look at both documents and see how ridiculous you are? I'd be embarrassed but you have no clue. Get off your high horse.
And by the way you never did give us that "first-hand" information he provided and you kept saying he had.
OVER and OVER and OVER. What was it that you said about repeating LIES?
it is so funny going to Suicidal Alky's FB page.
Two things today.
in 2029 Alky sees himself with bundles of cash. 😆
and His clothes look like they are from Salvation Army .
too lazy to do it herself.
and total worthless exercise, the call transcript is almost a footnote in the "WB" complaint. I think CHT likes to keep him speaking out of his ass so he doesn't answer the "pastor" but everyone can see how ridiculous he is.
and pompous.
and self-righteous
* call transcript - I should have said the actual call
for some reason the pederast thinks himself worthy of acknowledgement around here.
heh.
child raping piece of shit.
Cowardly King Obama , we know what you meant, only the fake pastor is a knit picking not wit.
The Republican party has to go away because they are traitors.
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R-Ky.) reelection campaign is seizing on the fight over impeachment, pledging in Facebook ads that he will lead Republican efforts to stop President Trump from being removed from office.
"Nancy Pelosi's in the clutches of a left wing mob. They finally convinced her to impeach the president. All of you know your Constitution, the way that impeachment stops is a Senate majority with me as majority leader," McConnell says in an ad that began running on Thursday.
"But I need your help. Please contribute before the deadline," McConnell continues in the ad.
But the Morons! Morons! Morons! Salute to the President for whom he stands!
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Republican party has to go away because they are traitors.
psychologically projecting again i see, eh alky?
oh, and stop stealing content, you piece of shit...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464379-mcconnell-vows-to-block-trump-impeachment-in-fundraising-pitch
Logic 101
Your pathological desire to reconcile this is causing your feeble excuse for a brain to fail.
I was going to post this. But the racist rodent bastard helped me out!
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464379-mcconnell-vows-to-block-trump-impeachment-in-fundraising-pitch
we're not trying to reconcile anything alky.
jon turley himself acknowledges that there is NO quid pro quo here. and with nancy too scared to go to the full house for an impeachment vote, and wile e. schiff setting off his acme explosives lies, this is nothing but a fucking joke. a joke the white house wisely refuses to participate in until poli-grip pelosi starts following the rules.
a joke like like your life...
...in a fleabag motel, with your wife gone, your car repo'd, evicted from mail order's humble abode, a restraining order hanging on your refrigerator, and surrounded by pill bottles full of opioids and transplant anti-rejection drugs.
need some new tennis balls for your walker? i'll start a 'go fund me' page for you.
@seanmdav
The form submitted by the complainant required him to disclose all contacts he had regarding his allegations. If he failed to disclose those interactions with Schiff before filing the complaint, he could be subject to felony false statement charges.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1180187314200481792
@BryanDeanWright
Bryan Dean Wright Retweeted Sean Davis
In sum: We have a politically biased CIA officer who lied on a WB’er form to relay politically biased second hand “facts” & politically biased media analysis.
Upshot: This is Comey 2.0, an operation “to create public pressure for official action.”
These people will not stop.
UPDATE: @FDRLST has confirmed that the anti-Trump complainant signed the complaint form under penalty of perjury without disclosing prior contact w/ House Democrats regarding his allegations.
During the campaign, he requested information from the Russians on a private citizen.
Two days ago, he asked Communist China for information about a private citizen.
As a person who grew up during the Cold War era, I can't believe how many Republicans reconcile his behavior. Reagan would be calling him a traitor.
My walker is folded up and in storage.
Come here and work out with the old hippie American citizen!
*** BREAKING Nancy Pelosi's son was exec at gas company that did business in Ukraine ***
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s son Paul Pelosi Jr. visited Ukraine in 2017 to meet with government officials in connection to a business initiative. Now, unearthed records reveal that Paul Pelosi Jr. was an executive of a gas industry company that did business in Ukraine – and his mother Nancy Pelosi was featured in one of the company’s promotional videos.
https://nationalfile.com/breaking-nancy-pelosis-son-was-exec-at-gas-company-that-did-business-in-ukraine/
why does this not surprise me
The anti-Trump whistleblower whose allegations against President Donald Trump sent Congress into an impeachment frenzy concealed his interactions with House Democrats from the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and failed to disclose them as required, Fox News reported on Friday.
According to Fox News investigative reporter Catherine Herridge, ICIG Michael Atkinson testified before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) that the anti-Trump complainant, whose identity has not been made public, did not inform the ICIG in his complaint that he or his team had already contacted Democratic staff working for Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chairman of the House intelligence committee.
The complainant’s failure to disclose his interactions with Schiff or his staff could put him in legal hot water, as the whistleblower form he submitted requires individuals to disclose “other actions you are taking on your disclosure” under penalty of perjury. An entire page of the whistleblower form is dedicated to collecting information about previous disclosures so the ICIG can take appropriate action in response to the complaint.
“I have previously disclosed (or am disclosing) the violations alleged here to (complete all that apply),” the form requires the complainant to attest. The form includes checkboxes for disclosures to other inspectors general, other agencies, the Department of Justice, the Government Accountability Office, the Office of Special Counsel, other executive branch departments, Congress and its respective committees, and media. It also includes a separate question asking the complainant to detail those previous disclosures to the ICIG.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/04/report-anti-trump-whistleblower-concealed-contacts-with-house-democrats-from-inspector-general/#.XZeaH__Hp1I.twitter
A big deal in regards to the impeachment of Donald Trump. Public opinion is going to be a big problem for the Republicans, who are standing on his 6.
The polling shows that the public interest is increasing and more importantly is the public support for impeachment hearings and, even more alarming for the President is this story on the Fake News CNN.
Trump's impeachment polling is historically unprecedented
Analysis by Harry Enten, CNN
(CNN) — The poll numbers are in on impeachment, and it's not good news for President Donald Trump. A clear plurality of Americans approve of the House's impeachment inquiry into Trump, and they are split on whether they want to impeach and remove him from office.
Americans are more eager to impeach Trump now than they were at similar points in the impeachment sagas of Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon.
Impeachment actions usually start off as being unpopular with the American public. After the House voted to start an impeachment inquiry of Clinton in October 1998, a CBS News/New York Times poll found that 45% approved and 53% disapproved.
But with Trump, those numbers are reversed. In an average of polls taken since House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a formal inquiry last week, 51% support an impeachment inquiry. A minority, 44%, are against it.
The Republicans are staying with him right now.
A clear plurality of Americans approve of the House's impeachment inquiry into Trump...
yet the full house is scared shitless of taking a floor vote putting EVERY member on the record.
hmmm... now why would that be?
assholes like harry enten and the alky would have you believe that public opinion is clearly on their side. yet poli-grip pelosi feels compelled from forcing her red state dems from putting their fucking money where their mealy mouths are.
democrats are fucking cowards. some are traitors too, but ALL are fucking cowards.
THIS IS WHAT ChUNtruth HIMSELF SAID:
"...the Whistle blower's description of events does not match the description of the call by other members who were there (Pompeo, Zelensky) or the transcript of the call."
JAMES SAYS:
Okay, so YOU say it does not match.
I say it does.
OTHERS say it does.
The FIRST EXAMINERS found it "credible."
But Ch says it does not match, so he should be able to demonstrate for us just how it does not match by putting texts of the two side by side, or one after the other, to show that the whistleblower's statement really does not match the transcript of the call.
Simple enough.
Yes, that should be quite easy enough.
So why hasn't it taken place here? We've been waiting three days.
Is it because Ch simply cannot do it?
Nor can Commensa?
Nor can Rat?
Nor can cowardly Cowardly?
Nor can Kansas Democrat?
SUPER FAIL. Pack of liars, all of you. Just like Trump, whose lie you repeated without even taking the time to examine it.
Not very smart. HUGELY dumb.
Epic Jane Trigger Dance in high heals.
oh look projection is an Alky trait.
"We've been waiting three days". Jane
nope.
Sorry James...
I reject the premise of your question as untrue.
Besides, I am still waiting for your explanation as to why it was okay for Obama to contact Ukrainian leaders in the middle of a campaign to reopen an investigation into Trump's campaign manager?
Or why it was okay to use opposition research gathered by foreign sources to investigate multiple campaign officials of a candidate for President (including the candidate) right during an election campaign.
If investigations against candidates for President are considered a campaign contribution, then didn't Obama and gang to way over their legal limit and illegally fund their campaign contribution with Federal dollars?
If asking for or soliciting foreign help is illegal, then certainly hiring foreign people to come up with stuff to investigate a candidate falls into that category.
So tell us James...
How many times in 2016 did you complain about a candidate (and those around him) being under investigation by our own and other foreign entities?
Are you going to call on Democrats to put a halt to investigating Trump, since he is running for President and those investigation are a "thing of value" and they would be illegally using Federal money to promote his opponents?
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