Attorneys for Ukraine call whistleblower new statement on speculation about the intelligence community employee’s identity. pic.twitter.com/UdsmSQ226P— Kelly O'Donnell (@KellyO) November 1, 2019
And no... the media is under zero legal obligation to maintain any secrecy of who this person actually is. As long as the story is considered "legitimate news" your media does have a first amendment protection from being sued for telling the truth. I would love to see these attorneys sue the media for reporting on this story.
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The Deep State conspiracy has been exonerated by.
Former Acting CIA Director John McLaughlin acknowledged and praised the "deep state" for any involvement that led to the impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.
"There is something unique you have to agree that now the impeachment inquiry is underway, sparked by a complaint from someone within the intelligence community, it feeds the president’s concern, an often-used term about a deep state being there to take him out?" moderator Margaret Brennan asked.
"Thank God for the deep state," McLaughlin quipped.
"Everyone here has seen this progression of diplomats and intelligence officers and White House people trooping up to Capitol Hill right now and saying these are doing their duty and responding to a higher call," McLaughlin said. "It doesn't surprise me -- with all of the people who knew what was going on here, it took an intelligence officer to step forward and say something about it, which was the trigger that then unleashed everything else."
"Now why does that happen?" he explained. "I'll tell the American people why that happens. This is the institution in the U.S. government, that with all of its flaws and it makes mistakes, it is institutionally committed to objectivity and telling the truth. It is one of the few institutions in Washington that is not in a chain of command that makes or implements policy. Its whole job is to speak the truth, it's engraved in marble in the lobby."
McLaughlin made the remarks Wednesday at an event hosted by the Michael V. Hayden Center and Schar School of Policy and Government focused on election security that also featured former CIA Director John Brennan, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and former CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell on the panel.
Brennan also embraced the term "deep state" in describing Trump's relationship with the CIA and intelligence community.
They may end up saving the world from Donald Trump.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/11/01/former_acting_cia_director_john_mclaughlin_on_impeachment_thank_god_for_the_deep_state.html
Apparently now the 'whistleblower', you know, the one who was key to starting this entire impeachment inquiry... doesn't want to testify in Congress... how incredibly convenient.
The one who claimed this was so urgent and important now can't be bothered? And after the IC IG changed all those forms for him, and Schiff coached him and he waited so long."
He can't testify.
What Direct Evidence does he posses other then his connections to The Socialist Democrats .
If they don't have anything to hide, why are they attempting to withhold information about the President and his staff?
When the Republicans impeached Clinton, they released everything the house committee requested .
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Leopards don't change their spots, old dogs (especially really dumb ones, like Trump) don't learn new tricks, and if something apparently works once, why not try it again?
Considering that the July 2019 "perfect phone call", with Ukrainian President Zelensky, occurred the very next day after Special Counsel Mueller testified before Congress, it's pretty clear that Trump would believe, "If I got away with it once, I can get away with it again."
It's the same play, from the same playbook, being used in a new game, with a new Ukrainian President to extort political favors from!
And the Coldheartedtruth has bought into the cult of Trumpism.
back on topic.
"Ciaramella that he is
a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan."
Trump's approval rating among GOP Americans over the last several months of the poll:
July: 87% approval
September: 82% approval
Now: 74% approval
If the election was held this year with either Biden or maybe Buttigieg would not lose the electoral college votes
"IF"
ππππ
What happen to your support for Camel-toe Harris ?
Easy Question .
Roger, link us up to your polling.
Fuck you Roger
Republicans on the special Senate Whitewater committee released a report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation today showing that the fingerprints of the First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton, were found on records discovered in the White House family quarters two years after they were first sought by investigators.
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/05/us/hillary-clinton-s-fingerprints-among-those-found-on-papers.html
"Thank God for the deep state," McLaughlin quipped.
so mclaughlin believes that the deep state can overrule a duly elected president.
interesting.
the man's a traitor.
"alky, you lie like it's your fucking JOB." RRB
Correct.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblower_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html
The story is out here
The President has committed high crimes and misdemeanors.
He is the traitor, not the people who are protecting our nation from a dictatorship.
What is a man's a ??
English 101 F
Fact checking the President is a full time job by the Fake News CNN
Veterans Choice
Trump claimed he was the one who got the Veterans Choice health care program passed.
Facts First: President Barack Obama signed the Choice program into law in 2014; in 2018, Trump signed another bill, the VA MISSION Act, that expanded and modified the Choice program.
Pre-existing conditions
Trump claimed he would "always protect patients with pre-existing conditions, always."
Facts First: We usually don't fact-check promises, but this one has already proved untrue. The Trump administration and congressional Republicans have repeatedly put forward bills and filed lawsuits that would weaken Obamacare's protections for people with pre-existing conditions; Trump is currently supporting a Republican lawsuit that is seeking to declare all of Obamacare void, and he has not issued a plan to reinstate the law's protections for people with pre-existing conditions if the suit succeeds.
Thousands of children would die because of Trump.
The Republicans overturned a duly elected president in 1974.
Richard Nixon would have been convicted and removed from office by the United States Congress, a coequal branch of government that has the authority to check the President from exceeding his authority as provided by the Constitution of the United States.
Jimmy you don't care about the Constitution or the country.
You are a gullible idiot.
When the Republicans impeached Clinton, they released everything the house committee requested .
Are you sticking with this lie, what did the ‘chef’ make tonight Swanson Salisbury Steak?
GO DAWGS!!
They may end up saving the world from Donald Trump.
The question is; who will save the world from them?
@thebradfordfile
Imagine having so little hope in your presidential candidates, your party begins a kamikaze impeachment spectacle with exactly 0.0% chance of the US Senate removing the president.
Democrats know they're SCREWED.
Decades from now “pulling a Schiff” will be the expression used to describe a political traitor.
“Schiff show” will be a sham political hearing.
And a “Schiff” will be a scumbag.
Scott, you have been saying that the Democrats are trying to overturn a duly elected President, and they are not following the Constitution. Well, the Coldheartedtruth is that you are wrong again.
The Constitution says very little about how impeachment proceedings are to be conducted. The document specifies that the president, as well as federal judges and other officers of the United States, can be impeached for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” and gives the House of Representatives sole power to impeach. If a majority of the House votes for impeachment, there is then a trial in the Senate, which is presided over by the Chief Justice of the United States. It takes a two-thirds vote of the Senate to remove the president from office.
That’s it.
Nothing wrong.
But your cognitive dissonance has blinded your mind.
He won the election. That's a simple fact. But he swore to protect and defend the Constitution, not to defend himself.
"If this information is true, it is possible that this “whistleblower” could be one of the individuals who might need a defense lawyer in the coming weeks when the findings of the FISA report are made public. The reported direct relationship with James Brennan, the “Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election,” and Susan Rice makes them a likely candidate to be at the very least called as a witness in the cases that are likely to start following the FISA report. In addition, his area of expertise is reportedly Russia and Ukraine; two of the reported locations where information used in the anti- Trump Russian Dossier was “gathered.” The name that Real Clear Investigations revealed is also listed as a source in one of Robert Mueller’s footnotes in his report.
This means that with the Democrats starting the impeachment inquiry the “whistleblower” may be a witness, or a defendant, in a separate case where real evidence has been produced of criminal wrongdoing. In this case, their feelings, opinions, and rumors that they heard will not be important. The facts and potentially illegal actions that took place to start the witch hunt against President Trump will be concrete evidence that the Democrats and the media will be unable to spin politically."
President Trump and his supporters continue to complain that the House of Representatives is denying him due process. But in fact, every part of the inquiry to date has been in line with constitutional mandates, and the impeachment procedures adopted by the House of Representatives on Thursday go well beyond what the Constitution requires.
The Constitution says very little about how impeachment proceedings are to be conducted. The document specifies that the president, as well as federal judges and other officers of the United States, can be impeached for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” and gives the House of Representatives sole power to impeach. If a majority of the House votes for impeachment, there is then a trial in the Senate, which is presided over by the Chief Justice of the United States. It takes a two-thirds vote of the Senate to remove the president from office.
That’s it; that’s all the Constitution tells us about the procedures that must be followed. So long as these few rules are followed, it cannot be said that Congress is violating the Constitution. Trump and White House Counsel Pat Cipollone have said that the Constitution required a House resolution to authorize an impeachment inquiry, but they’re wrong.
Even now that Congress has passed such a resolution, Trump still insists he is being denied due process. But there is no basis for that claim either. Due process applies only if a person is being deprived of life, liberty or property. House impeachment hearings certainly don’t deprive the president of any of those interests.
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Even though there was no requirement that the House do so, the resolution it passed sets out procedures that meet the requirements for due process. The proceedings will be in public. Both Democrats and Republicans will ask questions of every witness. Both sides can call witnesses. The procedures to be followed are much like those used in the Clinton and Nixon impeachment proceedings, though there was less fact-finding in the Clinton impeachment because of the detailed report of Whitewater Special Counsel Kenneth Starr.
In many ways, the House of Representatives functions likes a grand jury in a criminal case, and an impeachment often has been likened to an indictment. As with the grand jury, the House decides whether there should be a trial. But the usual requirements of due process never have been found to apply at the grand jury stage precisely because there is no deprivation at that point. In fact, grand jury proceedings in many ways are the antithesis of due process: only the prosecution is present; the defendant is not allowed to call witnesses or present evidence; everything is done in secret.
In the Trump investigation, unlike the Nixon impeachment, there is much less uncertainty about what happened. The constant question in that inquiry was what did the president know and when did he know it. There was a clear answer only once the Supreme Court ordered the release of the White House tapes, which occurred after the House Judiciary Committee had voted articles of impeachment against Nixon.
With regard to President Trump there is little dispute over what occurred in at least one key instance. In a conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky about the United States giving Ukraine $400 million in military aid, Trump said, “I would like you to do us a favor though.” Although he later tried to back away from his statement, White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney publicly acknowledged that this was a quid pro quo, linking assistance for Ukraine to its willingness to investigate Joe Biden and his son.
Ultimately, this impeachment inquiry is not really about what happened, but rather whether such presidential conduct is a sufficient abuse of power to constitute “high crimes and misdemeanors.” With so little dispute about the underlying facts, the president and his supporters have taken to attacking the process.
But the process provided in Thursday’s resolution complies with everything the Constitution requires and comports with how past impeachment inquiries have been conducted. It is powerful rhetoric to say the House is acting unconstitutionally and denying due process. But there is just no legal basis for these claims.
Erwin Chemerinsky is dean of the UC Berkeley School of Law
Not a bookkeeper or a racist rodent bastard or a kput'z.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-11-02/trump-impeachment-house-of-representatives-resolution-constitution
Berzkley huh
Fucking tool
Are you ready to admit you lied when you claimed Bubba turned over everything?
Trump’s Loathing of Ukraine at Center of Probe
November 2, 2019 at 5:02 pm EDT
“Three of President Trump’s top advisers met with him in the Oval Office in May, determined to convince him that the new Ukrainian leader was an ally deserving of U.S. support,” the Washington Post reports.
“They had barely begun their pitch when Trump unloaded on them, according to current and former U.S. officials familiar with the meeting. In Trump’s mind, the officials said, Ukraine’s entire leadership had colluded with the Democrats to undermine his 2016 presidential campaign.”
Said Trump: “They tried to take me down.”
PARANOIA ON STEROIDS.
Trump winning again! US doesn’t have to pay China’s postage any longer
... The U.S. will save $300 million to $500 million by not subsidizing the cost of delivering imports from China.
THE TEST OF TRUMP’S DIPLOMATIC CLOUT
It was billed as a “test of the Trump administration’s diplomatic clout,” and when it was over, not only had the administration demonstrated its clout but it had also dealt a blow to China’s dominance of the postal package market.
On September 25, the Universal Postal Union, a UN organization that sets rates and rules for international mail among 192 countries, agreed to U.S. demands to reform the fee structure so that importing countries, such as the U.S., and by extension the U.S. Postal Service, could begin to stop the bleeding of losses from distributing mail and packages from countries including China.
China got the deal as a developing country and no one bothered to put a halt to it when they became a superpower.
We don’t really have free trade. In addition to the trade deficit, currency manipulation, and the theft of intellectual property, we paid for their postage too.
Small business leaders are thrilled.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/trump-winning-again-us-doesnt-have-to-pay-chinas-postage-any-longer/
@SebGorka
Eric Ciaramella:
- Sent by @JohnBrennan to
the @WhiteHouse
- Worked for
@AmbassadorRice
- Advised @JoeBiden on
“Ukraine policy”
- Invited @DNC operative
@AlexandraChalup to NSC
- Coordinated illegally with
@RepAdamSchiff as fake
whistleblower
Understand?
fired from NSC for leaking, should have been prosecuted.
Give me some of this
We find that Medicare for All could be financed with:
*A 32 percent payroll tax
*A 25 percent income surtax
*A 42 percent value-added tax (VAT)
*A mandatory public premium averaging $7,500 per capita – the equivalent of $12,000 per individual not otherwise on public insurance
*More than doubling all individual and corporate income tax rates
*An 80 percent reduction in non-health federal spending
*A 108 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) increase in the national debt
Impossibly high taxes on high earners, corporations, and the financial sector
*A combination of approaches
Each of these choices would have consequences for the distribution of income, growth in the economy, and ability to raise new revenue. Some of these consequences could be balanced against each other by adopting a combination approach that includes smaller versions of several of the options as well as additional policies.
Consequences could also be mitigated through aggressive efforts to lower per-person health care costs and/or by substantially scaling back the generosity or comprehensiveness of Medicare for All.
@thebradfordfile
The Washington Post has been leaking classified phone calls of President Trump since days after his inauguration. Now the same fake news giant is claiming Trump is involved in a conspiracy for having his calls logs secured.
See how that works?
…
Who on earth would be a fake whistleblower for Adam Schiff knowing that Bar and Durham are closing in on the deep state clowns who framed Donald Trump?
One of them!
Rumors are Eric Ciaramella will be named in the IG report on FISA abuse.
You can't make this crap up.
…
Decades from now “pulling a Schiff” will be the expression used to describe a political traitor.
“Schiff show” will be a sham political hearing.
And a “Schiff” will be a scumbag.
CHT Sorry to go off topic, but, this should kill her run . How stupid economically is she, where is the definitive answer.
"Q: Where do those who work in health insurance go when private insurance is eliminated?
Sen. Warren: "No one gets left behind. Some of the people currently working in health insurance will work in other parts of insurance. In life insurance, in auto insurance, in car insurance."
TRUMP BOOED AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN
President Trump was welcomed into Madison Square Garden tonight night with heavy booing from the crowd.
AWWW. Don'cha feel sorry for 'im?
Michael Cohen Urged to Stick to Russia Story
November 2, 2019 at 11:04 pm EDT
Michael Cohen was told that if he stuck to his account of President Trump’s relationship to Moscow, the president “loves you,” according to a bombshell document from the Robert Mueller investigation, the HuffPost reports.
“The memos also reveal that one-time Trump campaign manager and now convicted felon Paul Manafort continued to communicate with campaign staff until just days before the election even though he had been fired months earlier after he came under a cloud because of his links to Russian interests.”
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Beginning to wish you hadn't wanted to look into this? :-)
You decided that it's fine for Donald Trump to use his office to run an illegal extortion scheme against a foreign leader in an effort to cheat in the 2020 election.
Trump Defends Border Wall Design
November 2, 2019 at 10:58 pm EDT
After years of touting the impenetrability of a border wall, President Trump said Saturday that “you can cut through any wall” as reports surfaced of smugglers sawing through newly erected barriers with readily available power tools, Politico reports.
Said Trump: “We have a very powerful wall. But no matter how powerful, you can cut through anything, in all fairness. But we have a lot of people watching. You know cutting, cutting is one thing, but it’s easily fixed. One of the reasons we did it the way we did it, it’s very easily fixed. You put the chunk back in.”
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MAYBE IT WOULD BE A BETTER WALL IF MEXICO HAD PAID FOR IT.
CHT Sorry to go off topic, but, this should kill her run . How stupid economically is she, where is the definitive answer.
"Q: Where do those who work in health insurance go when private insurance is eliminated?
Sen. Warren: "No one gets left behind. Some of the people currently working in health insurance will work in other parts of insurance. In life insurance, in auto insurance, in car insurance."
"You can't get over it, you can't go under it," he was saying just a few days ago.
I guess he forgot to say, "You can't go THROUGH it."
Warren - Free teepees for all
Warren - Need to register all bows and limit arrows to six.
Warren - She would be first squaw Chief.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/468703-trump-gets-heavy-rain-of-boos-upon-entering-msg-prior-to-ufc-244
President Trump got a deluge of boos as he entered MSG.
He was massively booed, says THE HILL.
Trump getting booed.
Could have been all the fake news reporters.
Or could have been fake news in itself.
Or really not news at all
ROFLMFAO !!!
President Donald Trump was met with boos once again, this time at the main fight of UFC 244 Saturday night in New York City.
https://deadline.com/2019/11/donald-trump-greeted-by-boos-at-ufc-fight-1202776331/
When the president arrived at Madison Square Garden to watch the fighters face off, the massive crowd quickly turned hostile.
Video posted on Twitter showed attendees standing and loudly booing the commander-in-chief.
Adding to the insults, protesters gathered outside the arena after getting word that Trump would attend.
They pounded on bongos, carried signs saying “Trump/Pence Out Now!” in English and Spanish, and chanted “there’s a fascist in the White House” over a bullhorn.
Sounds like a crowd with no respect for elections.
Or people in general.
Must be the mob squad.
Or to stay on topic a herd of whistleblowers.
ROFLMFAO !!!
NY Post reports far more cheers than boos. Even in liberal NYC.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
President Donald Trump was met with boos once again, this time at the main fight of UFC 244 Saturday night in New York City.
I guess it's who you copy and paste. But I suspect the Post's version is a more fair and accrue telling of the facts.
More cheers than boos greet President Trump at UFC 244 at MSG
President Trump can catch a break at arena sporting events.
Some two dozen angry protesters armed with bright orange anti-Trump signs were stationed outside Madison Square Garden on Saturday night as President Trump arrived at the arena for UFC 244 — but there were twice as many fans happy to see the commander in chief.
Trump, who traveled with Reps. Kevin McCarthy, the House Minority Leader, and Mark Meadows, (R-NC), touched down at John F. Kennedy Airport at 8:05 p.m.
The entourage arrived at the Garden an hour later, after a quick hop on Marine One to the downtown heliport near Wall Street, followed by a motorcade trip up the FDR and over to Midtown.
I suspect Roger's source (whoever that may be) was never at Madison Square Garden.
Republicans, both voters and their representatives, have completely abandoned any respect for democracy and rule of law, choosing instead the cult of personality around a flagrant criminal. It ignores that Democrats value the truth and Republicans are awash in lies.
https://deadline.com/2019/11/donald-trump-greeted-by-boos-at-ufc-fight-1202776331/
The New York Post is a right wing websites it's not credible.
Watch the video below on YouTube
https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1190813944522391552?s=19
Fuck you Trump!
Roger Amick said...
What is a man's a ??
English 101 F
it's called a "contraction" alky.
english 101 fail indeed.
Contraction
Grammar
Description: A contraction is a shortened version of the written and spoken forms of a word, syllable, or word group, created by omission of internal letters and sounds.
a shortening of a word, syllable, or word group by omission of a sound or letter
also : a form produced by such shortening
"They'll" is a contraction for "they will."
in this specific case - the man's a traitor = the man IS a traitor.
don't attempt to correct or lecture me on any topic alky. ever.
you're an abject failure in every respect.
you drank yourself to a liver transplant, and your blinding seething hatred of a politician cost you your marriage and resulted in a restraining order against you.
you reside in an assisted living facility, you're mentally ill, and a pathological liar.
the blog we're posting on exists solely because you fucking destroyed the first one.
shut the fuck up, alky.
just shut the fuck up.
Consequences could also be mitigated through aggressive efforts to lower per-person health care costs and/or by substantially scaling back the generosity or comprehensiveness of Medicare for All.
iow's rationing and death panels.
awesome.
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This from the article: “he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy...” There is a huge fallacy in this. Anyone know what it is?
5:55 AM - 2 Nov 2019
https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1190613300217831425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1190613300217831425&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fbrettt-3136%2F2019%2F11%2F02%2Fbrit-hume-spot-the-huge-fallacy-in-the-washington-posts-profile-of-lt-col-alexander-vindman%2F
my, how times change. what was completely acceptable then is now a high crime or something...
In December, Congress approved the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, which authorized up to $350 million in defensive weapons to Ukraine. But the administration has not used that authority, which has prompted lawmakers to consider additional legislation to press the issue.
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/obama-pressed-on-many-fronts-to-arm-ukraine-115999
Why did John Brennan assign Ciaramella to the National Security Council? What role, if any, did Ciaramella take in this particular collusion involving Chalupa and a foreign government to influence the outcome of a U.S. presidential election? Why did Sen. Rand Paul describe Ciaramella as Vice President Joe Biden’s point man on Ukraine?
The lawyers representing Ciaramella describe him as an “apolitical, civil servant,” insisting “the identity of the whistleblower is irrelevant.” This is a lie. The whistleblower’s identity matters precisely because his past partisan behavior, unbecoming of a civil servant, grabbed the attention of journalists and coaxed the White House to force him out — all several years before Paul Sperry identified him as the “whistleblower.”
“Disclosure of the name of any person who may be suspected to be the whistleblower places that individual and their family in great physical danger,” his lawyers maintain. “Any physical harm the individual and/or their family suffers as a result of disclosure means that the individuals and publications reporting such names will be personally liable for that harm.”
Liable for the harm to the leaker or for the harm to the impeachment scheme he advances?
The CIA, which placed not a single human intelligence source on the ground prior to the U.S. invasion of Iraq, managed to infiltrate the White House. To make America great again the CIA needs to understand its job as spying on America’s enemies and not Americans.
Call this a coup d’Γ©tat. Call it a putsch. Call him Eric Ciaramella. Just don’t call him “apolitical” without an accompanying laugh track.
https://spectator.org/blowing-the-whistle-on-the-whistleblower/
Roger gives us something called deadline.com but calls the NY Post not credible.
Yeah, ok.
Roger's gone round the bend.
His new home that was 2500 sq. feet, grew to 2800 sq feet, presumably to house his personal Chef.
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