Friday, March 6, 2020

Biden would be Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, Clinton

Democrats won with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and those were not the "safe" choice! They've lost with most every "establishment" choice. 

I will give Kristof some credit here for understanding the situation, even if he lives in some sort of lala world. But to be clear, Joe Biden is not Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or any sort of change candidate... he is exactly the sort of candidate that has consistently lost (for both sides).

Trump wasn't the safe choice. Obama wasn't the safe choice. Clinton wasn't the safe choice and even Reagan was considered a bit outside the mainstream when he won the Presidency. The only two Presidents that could be considered the "safe" choices were both named George Bush and they both pretty much won by default against someone less exciting than them.

The political reality is that the safe choice (Clinton, Romney, McCain, Kerry, Gore, Dole, etc) don't win. The more boring and mainstream they appear, the less successful they seem to be. In no sane world that really respects experience and a conventional demeanor would a business man like Donald Trump or a one term Senator like Barack Obama become the leader of the free world. If we actually lived in that world, then Trump would have lost to Jeb Bush in the primary or certainly to Hillary Clinton in the General election. Obama would have lost to Clinton in the primary, and never beaten respected experience candidates like John McCain or Mitt Romney in the General.

The truth is that Americans want Presidents (right, wrong, or indifferent) to inspire them. They want them to move them emotionally. They want them to be larger than life. They don't want someone with "experience" or with moderate views. They just don't. Maybe that's wrong. But it just is.

41 comments:

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I challenge all of you to go to politicalwire.com and start reading what is posted there beginning at 9:pm last night and what is posted there beginning this morning and ask yourself what kind of cowardly, lying, incompetent president we now have in the White House.

caliphate4vr said...

piss off pederast

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Thank you for the brilliant comment.

Myballs said...

Why should we. No one gives a shit what taegan Goddard thinks.

caliphate4vr said...

the stupid old man doesn't get that

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Politicalwire.com forces you and me and everyone else to consider a lot more than what one man thinks.

Unlike Fox News and other such "news" and commentary outlets, Goddard often prints things that we on the left DON'T want to hear.

To say that polwire only represents what Goddard alone thinks is to show who really is stupid here.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And now to respond to Chtruth's analysis in his thread article:

What Americans often want in the next president is someone DIFFERENT from what they have just had. Few people could be more different from Trump than Biden in terms of decency, level headedness, trustworthiness, morality, refusal to sell out to political expediency, EXPERIENCE, road testedness, likeability, willingness to listen to seasoned advisers, respect for science, opposition to Putin and other dictators who wish us ill, sensibleness vis a vis North Korea and Iran, etc., etc., etc.

The list stretches on almost into infinity. :-)

cowardly king obama said...

caliphate4vr said...
the stupid old man doesn't get that


next he will be challenging everyone to a pushup contest.

like his new master.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Myballs said...

So we're all stupid because we don't follow politicalwire. Yeah ok.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

No, you're stupid because you call it a stupid, utterly worthless and utterly biased source for information. Many people on the right consult it daily because of the quality of information is provides.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

it provides

cowardly king obama said...

James said:
Many people on the right consult it daily because of the quality of information is provides


Excellent !!! Even though that is not true it is reason enough to stop spamming these boards with it (and without attribution to it) if you truly believe that.

ROFLMFAO !!!


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

LOL I guess Cowardly will be challening everyone to a cheeseburger eating contest, in honor of HIS master.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

And now to respond to Chtruth's analysis in his thread article:

What Americans often want in the next president is someone DIFFERENT from what they have just had. Few people could be more different from Trump than Biden in terms of decency, level headedness, trustworthiness, morality, refusal to sell out to political expediency, EXPERIENCE, road testedness, likeability, willingness to listen to seasoned advisers, respect for science, opposition to Putin and other dictators who wish us ill, sensibleness vis a vis North Korea and Iran, etc., etc., etc.

The list stretches on almost into infinity. :-)

cowardly king obama said...


Wrong again lightweight.

ROFLMFAO !!!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Thanks for another brilliant comment. Bye.

cowardly king obama said...


Now the "pastor" is stuttering and repeating his tripe.

and its cowardly KING OBAMA.

HOWLING and ROFLMFAO !!!!

cowardly king obama said...

Aisha Sharna
@SharnaAisha

Joe Biden explains why Bernie Sanders is the best to beat Trump.

(Yes, this is Joe 4 years ago.. I know it's strange watching him talk in full sentences.)

https://twitter.com/SharnaAisha/status/1235049620767555585

Myballs said...

Now you're attributing statements to me that I didn't make. Something stupid people do?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Glad to know that you DON'T think that polwire is only the opinion of one man (as you said) and that it IS "a credible source of information."

And again, Bye. And this time i mean it.

Myballs said...

And yet, the top of the site reads

Taegan Goddard's Politicalwire. So to pretend that his opinion is not dominant on the site is...well...stupid.

And you're free to leave at any time. You won't be missed.

Buh bye.

caliphate4vr said...

The best and brightest......

NYT Editor and Brian Williams: Bloomberg Could Have Given Every American $1 Million With the Money He Spent on Ads

C.H. Truth said...

What Americans often want in the next president is someone DIFFERENT from what they have just had.

That's a very very true statement if you are judging a two term President who is out of time. But "incumbent" elections are normally about that incumbent and their success or failure in office.

Biden is not enough of a candidate to make Americans want to give up the economic growth and other tangible successes... just because they don't like some of Trump's behavior in the White House (Bill Clinton was a classic example of a President who was both respected for results but tarnished for his in-office actions).

The last incumbent to lose was GHWB in 1992, and he lost to an upstart change candidate who people truly believed would garner in a new revolution (first baby boomer President). Bush also was dealing with a horrible economy and the reputation of someone who put his foreign policy ahead of his domestic. But he was a likable guy with no problems with personal actions.

Same with Jimmy Carter (the previous). A likable guy who was above reproach. Voted out because he was seen as incompetent as President.

anonymous said...

NYT Editor and Brian Williams: Bloomberg Could Have Given Every American $1 Million With the Money He Spent on Ads


Maybe that would have enabled you to buy that lakefront home you can't afford.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

caliphate4vr said...

a $1.51 huh, damn fatty you are fucking stupid

cowardly king obama said...

James said:
And this time i mean it.


what a little boy thing to say.

and the chalkboard monitor with a supposed English degree and no tolerance for anyone else uses "i". something little MIKE would do.

ROFLMFAO !!!


anonymous said...


Blogger caliphate4vr said...
a $1.51 huh, damn fatty you are fucking stupid


Your headline you dumb fuck.....maybe you should look at what you post......BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! God you are an obnoxious drunkard......LOLOLOLOL

Caliphate4vr said...

For the fat and stupid

Obviously, the math here is spectacularly off. If Michael Bloomberg had divided the money he spent on his presidential run evenly among Americans, we would each have got $1.53, not $1 million. For Bloomberg to give $1 million to each American, he would have to be worth $327 trillion (in cash), which, for context, is around 17 times American GDP and about five-and-a-half thousand times what he’s actually worth. The scale of the error here is galactic.

You fucked up again fatass, I know you aren’t man enough to admit it

Now go eat a pie

anonymous said...

I do not follow your fucking links to red state or bee or national review....They are as worthless as you and your life!!!!!! BWAAAAAA!!! You posted the headline, not me......So go fuck yourself you pile of shit!!!!! Neither of those you cited would have made that assertion....only math flunkies like you would....>BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA The only fuck up here is your post....in spades!!!!!!! God you really are perfect....just like trump!!!! Keep drinking......it is what you do best.!!!!!!

Caliphate4vr said...


Blogger caliphate4vr said...
The best and brightest......


See that fatboy, that was sarcasm, before the headline but you’re so stupid you didn’t get it

anonymous said...

And the drunk sales loser now tries to cover his idiocy with sarcasm.....BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Keep posting asshole....it is getting rather deep.... About as funny as your intellect...... The only thing I got again is your inability to think or post a cogent thought of your own....when caught you lie like trump to cover your stupid old white drunken ass.......Yeah sure you dumb fuck!!!! Sad your head is soooo large and empty!!!!!

Anonymous said...



The scale of the error here is galactic.


our "betters" in the elite media are so fucking stupid that if breathing required thought, three quarters of them would be dead.

anonymous said...

The drunk salesman of georgia said his post was sarcasm.....well it is obvious the dumb fuck did not read his own link which was not being sarcastic, but lamenting some news was mis represented.....Now I expect the coward of georgia to man up and admit he fucked up, but I sure will not hold my breath and expect anything but venom and name calling, typical of low intellect drunkards!!!!! An excerpt from his sarcasm.......BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! God you lose again asshole!!!!!

NYT Editor and Brian Williams: Bloomberg Could Have Given Every American $1 Million With the Money He Spent on Ads
Posted at 1:56 am on March 6, 2020 by Kira Davis

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NYT Editor and Brian Williams: Bloomberg Could Have Given Every American $1 Million With the Money He Spent on Ads
FILE – This April 4, 2012 file photo shows NBC News’ Brian Williams, at the premiere of the HBO original series “Girls,” in New York. NBC News says that Brian Williams will not return to his job as “Nightly News” anchor, but will remain anchor breaking news reports at the cable network MSNBC. Williams was suspended in February for falsely claiming he had been in a helicopter hit by enemy fire during the Iraq War. NBC launched an internal investigation that turned up other instances where Williams embellished or misrepresented his experiences, frequently during appearances on talk shows. Before his swift tumble, Williams was arguably the most powerful on-air personality in television news. Lester Holt, who has been subbing for Williams since the suspension, will take over the job full-time. (AP Photo/Starpix, Dave Allocca, File)

I’ve started this sentence three times already. I hardly even know how to describe what I saw on social media tonight. In the most bad-at-math tweet I’ve ever seen in my entire twitter life, Mekita Rivas – A WRITER WITH BYLINES IN GLAMOUR MAGAZINE AND THE WASHINGTON POST – lamented that Bloomberg’s half a billion in ad money could have provided one million dollars for every American and still have money to spare.

Not a typo.

This seems bad. It is bad. But it gets worse.

Mara Gay – NEW YORK TIMES EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER – was on MSNBC with Brian Williams – YES, THAT BRIAN WILLIAMS – when he brought up this tweet that put it “all in perspective” for the longtime new analyst and noted lover of fish tales. You may imagine that at some point in this video one of them thinks about the math. They did not.

anonymous said...

Caught the lying sack of drunken shit again.....I laugh at you all the time asshole.....keep digging!!!!

Caliphate4vr said...

FILE – This April 4, 2012 file photo shows NBC News’ Brian Williams, at the premiere of the HBO original series “Girls,” in New York. NBC News says that Brian Williams will not return to his job as “Nightly News” anchor, but will remain anchor breaking news reports at the cable network MSNBC. Williams was suspended in February for falsely claiming he had been in a helicopter hit by enemy fire during the Iraq War. NBC launched an internal investigation that turned up other instances where Williams embellished or misrepresented his experiences, frequently during appearances on talk shows. Before his swift tumble, Williams was arguably the most powerful on-air personality in television news. Lester Holt, who has been subbing for Williams since the suspension, will take over the job full-time. (AP Photo/Starpix, Dave Allocca, File)

WTF?. You’re high again as usual

anonymous said...

BWAAAAAAA!!!!!!! You got nothing you drunken frat boy!!!! Just because your claim to fame is winning a vacation you could not afford......Even a fucking idiot like you knows he has been infinitely more successful thant you, a drunken salesman!!!!! Keep, digging since you at least learned something from my post......BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! Maybe trump can do something to help what is left of your shrunken brain!!!!!

anonymous said...

Hey dumb fudk asshole.....the most amusing part of your last post pointing out what an asshole williams is .....is that that info came from you link that was as you called sarcasm.....Really Paul....you really are a dumber fuck than even I can imagine!!!!! Thanx again for proving you never read the Red State piece and your BS trying to cover your old fat white georgian ass was most amusing!!!!!! You really need help, boy.......BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Caliphate4vr said...

No what I’m pointing out is your inability to even do menial things like eliminating frivolous and superfluous items in your cut and paste

Fatty you’re very simple and stupid

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I’m mean I get it life had passed you by and left you an angry, bitter, old fatman in failing health

anonymous said...

And what I have pointed out again and again that you are full of shit and cannot ever admit being wrong.... BTW..... I cut from your link without editorializing.....something your should have noted but can't see past trumps fat old white ass!!!!! Again, your comment proves you did not read the link but just posted the headline which was pure bullshit.....just like your excuse and lie of being sarcastic.....you are sooooo transparent and stupid it is most amusing to me how easy it is to trigger you and prove you wrong!!!!!!!!!! Keep thinking how tough you are you shallow ingrate !!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!!!!

Caliphate4vr said...

Say hi to your spawn rotten snatch.

I’m off to enjoy the rest of this lovely day

See I can still walk unaided

anonymous said...

I walk just fine you dumb fuck....also jog and play golf.....Now you want to tell me what you can do other than drink yourself into a stupor to abet your pathetic life selling shit?????? Will be back at my cabin in 2 weeks and you won't.....Make sure you disinfect your betrothed.....there is a swarm of flies hovering over that slum you live in.....LOLOLOL. you really are a pathetic child trapped in an old mans body.....