Friday, September 4, 2020

Black lives matters will never fully succeed by embracing criminals as their heroes...

As support for black lives matters fades and disapproval grows, there has been a growing frustration on the part of many supporters that there just hasn't been enough tangible reform or tangible results considering all of the social unrest and unprecedented actions taken in the streets.


I read another article regarding this today where the comparison was made to past examples of social unrest that triggered overhauls and real change for civil rights and the black community in particular. The author appears confused and generally irritated by why such changes are not so readily had in today's society.

I can address this in the fairly simple tangible manner that much of the reforms being suggested are not realistic or largely designed to simply manufacture conditions specifically favorable to black people and other people of color. We are not really talking about civil liberties where we once removed factors of race in society, but rather they are talking about change that would literally bring back the factor or race into the equation (only with specific advantages for minorities). 

This is never going to be widely acceptable to people in the long term, nor should it be. We cannot become a raceless society by putting more focus and emphasis on it. It really doesn't matter if this sort of wrongheaded ideas come from a place of good intentions.

But the bigger issue here is that we are no longer talking about things like black children being lynched or innocent black people being hung from trees without trials. Those are fairly universal injustices that pretty much everyone outside of the KKK will agree are tragic examples of racism ending in criminal violence.

Instead of innocent children and falsely accused black men, we are literally talking about criminals who have in most every case either just broke the law or are actually in the process of breaking the law at the time of the incident.

Instead of racist KKK members who are committing the lynchings, we have dedicated police officers being put into precarious and dangerous situations with these very criminals where split second life or death decisions have to be made.

It's one thing when the symbol of your movement is an innocent black person hanging from a tree with KKK members standing around with torches... it's quite another when the symbol of your movement are criminals who are violently engaging police officers who are simply trying to do their job.

Now I can appreciation (even if I don't understand) how a black person in 2020 may not either see the difference or care to see the difference. But you cannot effectively win these movements without winning the hearts and minds of the bulk of society. It's not enough to get 20 or 30 percent of the country angry beyond all recognition to the point where they just start burning things down. You need a fairly obvious majority to buy into the cause.

This just isn't going to happen with "Hands up, don't shoot" or "I can't breath" when the people responsible for those symbols are criminals and the message itself is not seen as honest by a large portion of society. Moreover, the cumulative effect of lumping every black criminal who ends up on the wrong side of a violent episode with the police as more proof of racism becomes more of a problem than a solution.

Herein lies the bigger problem with the entire 2020 black lives matter movement. When you no longer have obvious examples of blatant racism, it requires you to lower the bar and change the rules of the game. While the abstract concept of "systemic racism" is something that can be taught in a class and argued as a philosophical debate, it's simply not something that can compared to the sort of historical racism and violence against people of color. 

It just can't. Sorry, but pretending it can or should is just never going to cut it.

66 comments:

Anonymous said...

I almost have to chuckle at the media. They actually think the fact that Trump says prisoners of war and those killed in action were losers and suckers is going to change the minds of Trump supporters.

They didn't care what he said about John McCain. His supporters are not patriots. His supporters are mostly Facists and Nazis. They don't agree with Democracy. They don't care what negative things Trump says about those who died defending this democracy or those who are currently in uniform fighting overseas. They don't care how many are wounded or die as long as it isn't them.

They DON'T care.This news isn't going to alter the mind or the vote of one single Trumpster.

Let the truth sink in.

His diehard supporters are as traitorous as he is. They're no different. They don't give two shits about this country, nor do they give two shits about anyone defending it.

Anonymous said...



good post, but i think we're beyond the whole systemic racism issue.

this has been a coordinated marxist rebellion and national shakedown from the jump. they no longer feel the need to justify their violence. george floyd? who dat? doesn't matter. it was never about him anyway.

this was a highly organized and well coordinated and funded effort from the start. strategically and conveniently placed pallets of bricks and rocks just don't materialize out of thin air.

bottom line - this situation is not complicated and the reasons for the violence have always been pure, unadulterated bullshit from the beginning. those behind this predicted with a high degree of accuracy that there would be a legion of willing dupes willing to accept the systemic racism "reason" and behave as they have. they're a means to an end. if this was truly a black lives matter, why are blacks outnumbered 10 - 1 by whites at every uprising?

Anonymous said...


Updated July 21, 2020
Systemic racism is both a theoretical concept and a reality. As a theory, it is premised on the research-supported claim that the United States was founded as a racist society, that racism is thus embedded in all social institutions, structures, and social relations within our society. Rooted in a racist foundation, systemic racism today is composed of intersecting, overlapping, and codependent racist institutions, policies, practices, ideas, and behaviors that give an unjust amount of resources, rights, and power to white people while denying them to people of color.


Definition of Systemic Racism
Developed by sociologist Joe Feagin, systemic racism is a popular way of explaining, within the social sciences and humanities, the significance of race and racism both historically and in today's world. Feagin describes the concept and the realities attached to it in his well-researched and readable book, "Racist America: Roots, Current Realities, and Future Reparations." In it, Feagin uses historical evidence and demographic statistics to create a theory that asserts that the United States was founded in racism since the Constitution classified Black people as the property of white people. Feagin illustrates that the legal recognition of slavery based on race is a cornerstone of a racist social system in which resources and rights were and are unjustly given to white people and unjustly denied to people of color.

The theory of systemic racism accounts for individual, institutional, and structural forms of racism. The development of this theory was influenced by other scholars of race, including Frederick Douglass, W.E.B. Du Bois, Oliver Cox, Anna Julia Cooper, Kwame Ture, Frantz Fanon, and Patricia Hill Collins, among others.


Feagin defines systemic racism in the introduction to "Racist America: Roots, Current Realities, and Future Reparations":


"Systemic racism includes the complex array of antiblack practices, the unjustly gained political-economic power of whites, the continuing economic and other resource inequalities along racial lines, and the white racist ideologies and attitudes created to maintain and rationalize white privilege and power. Systemic here means that the core racist realities are manifested in each of society’s major parts [...] each major part of U.S. society—the economy, politics, education, religion, the family—reflects the fundamental reality of systemic racism."
While Feagin developed the theory based on the history and reality of anti-Black racism in the U.S., it is usefully applied to understanding how racism functions generally, both within the U.S. and around the world.

Elaborating on the definition quoted above, Feagin uses historical data in his book to illustrate that systemic racism is primarily composed of seven major elements, which we will review here.

The Impoverishment of People of Color and Enrichment of White People
Feagin explains that the undeserved impoverishment of people of color (POC), which is the basis of the undeserved enrichment of white people, is one of the core aspects of systemic racism. In the U.S. this includes the role that the enslavement of Black people played in creating an unjust wealth for white people, their businesses, and their families. It also includes the way white people exploited labor throughout the European colonies prior to the founding of the United States. These historical practices created a social system that had racist economic inequality built into its foundation and was followed through the years in numerous ways, like the practice of "redlining" that prevented POC from buying homes that would allow their family wealth to grow while protecting and stewarding the family wealth of white people. Undeserved impoverishment also results from POC being forced into unfavorable mortgage rates, being channeled by unequal opportunities for education into low-wage jobs, and being paid less than white people for doing the same jobs.

Anonymous said...

There is no more telling proof of the undeserved impoverishment of POC and the undeserved enrichment of white people than the massive difference in the average wealth of white versus Black and Latino families.

Vested Group Interests Among White People
Within a racist society, white people enjoy many privileges denied to POC. Among these is the way that vested group interests among powerful white people and “ordinary whites” allow white people to benefit from their racial identity without even identifying it as such. This manifests in support among white people for white political candidates, and for laws and political and economic policies that work to reproduce a social system that is racist and has racist outcomes. For example, white people as a majority have historically opposed or eliminated diversity-increasing programs within education and jobs, and ethnic studies courses that better represent the racial history and reality of the U.S. In cases like these, white people in power and ordinary white people have suggested that programs like these are "hostile" or examples of "reverse racism." In fact, the way white people wield political power in the protection of their interests and at the expense of others, without ever claiming to do so, maintains and reproduces a racist society.

Anonymous said...

..

Resistance to Racism
Finally, Feagin recognizes that resistance to racism is an important feature of systemic racism. Racism has never been passively accepted by those who suffer it, and so systemic racism is always accompanied by acts of resistance that might manifest as protest, political campaigns, legal battles, resisting white authority figures, and speaking back against racist stereotypes, beliefs, and language. The white backlash that typically follows resistance, like countering "Black Lives Matter" with "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter," does the work of limiting the effects of resistance and maintaining a racist system.

Systemic Racism Is All Around Us and Within Us
Feagin's theory and all of the research he and many other social scientists have conducted over 100 years illustrate that racism is in fact built into the foundation of U.S. society and that it has over time come to infuse all aspects of it. It is present in our laws, our politics, our economy; in our social institutions; and in how we think and act, whether consciously or subconsciously. It's all around us and inside of us, and for this reason, resistance to racism must also be everywhere if we are to combat it.

Anonymous said...

https://www.thoughtco.com/systemic-racism-3026565

C.H. Truth said...

Well Denny....

Those are some wonderful arguments regarding systemic racism in a fairly generic and abstract matter. But the reality is that it lacks real-time data that shows what is being suggested.

It is simply not enough to talk about blacks being slaves or mortgage companies red-lining... if you cannot prove that blacks are slaves today or that mortgage companies are actually discriminating against people in 2020.

The main issue with "systemic racism" is the continued concept that what happened in the past is why blacks are less successful than other races. It also ignored the reality that in 2020, whites are no longer the most "successful" race. Far from it. Asians, Indians, and many other races are now statistically more successful than Whites... both in real world jobs, economics, wages, education... in fact white people have dropped to #9 in the United States as it comes to success by race.

Again... not that there is not a great abstract argument to be made and debated regarding systemic racism. But it lacks the obvious political symbols of a black person being hung by a tree branch at the hands of KKK members carrying torches.

This sort of argument will continue to fail to garner the type of emotional and logical movement needed to make the sort of drastic changes that certain people want.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

All those blacks who let themselves get shot in the backs or in their beds at home were just losers.

Anonymous said...

Systematic racism does exist

resistance to racism is an important feature of systemic racism. Racism has never been passively accepted by those who suffer it, and so systemic racism is always accompanied by acts of resistance that might manifest as protest, political campaigns, legal battles, resisting white authority figures, and speaking back against racist stereotypes, beliefs, and language. The white backlash that typically follows resistance, like countering "Black Lives Matter" with "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter," does the work of limiting the effects of resistance and maintaining a racist system.

Anonymous said...

Blogger James said...

All those blacks who let themselves get shot in the backs or in their beds at home were just losers.


yeah, all nine of them.


Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Can anyone name nine whites who got shot in their backs by police?

C.H. Truth said...

Let's look at it from a tangible aspect...

Police shootings were down in 2019 by about 70% from 2015. The killing of unarmed suspects went from being being consistently in the hundreds, to dropping down to less than three dozen in 2019. Only 9 unarmed blacks were shot and none of them were deemed to be unauthorized, unnecessary, or otherwise illegal.


What good does it do our society when our police take tangible actions, successfully reduce shootings... only to see what is happening today....

largely because a black man likely overdosed on fentanyl while in police custody and society rushed to blame the cop (without waiting for even a toxicology report or a full autopsy). A report that the medical examiner now suggests (under sworn deposition testimony) would have under normal circumstances listed the cause of death to be overdose (not homicide).

Not only that... but with absolutely no proof or evidence what-so-ever... many in society just assumed that the police officers were acting in a racist manner.



We, as a society, have to be willing to give credit where credit is due, rather than always be "on the lookout" for any excuse to attack the police and demand something is an act of racism.

C.H. Truth said...

All those blacks who let themselves get shot in the backs or in their beds at home were just losers.

I only assume you are talking about all those innocent black children and bystanders being shot by other black criminals either in random gang shootings or in other criminal acts of gun violence?

George Wallace said...

Racism in the U.S. exists only in trace amounts, among the police and the general population, and the little that survives is not the cause of black America's endless litany of unhappiness. The source of American black despair lies within blacks themselves, their inability to think.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I guess if four black policemen had a handcuffed white man pinned down with a knee on his neck while he said he couldn't breathe and begged not to be killed and cried out for his "mama," we would "demand" that they were only doing regular police work.

Anonymous said...

Trump calls dead soldiers SUCKERS and LOSERS!
F..k him!
Lynn Hart
USMC veteran

C.H. Truth said...

I guess if four black policemen had a handcuffed white man pinned down with a knee on his neck while he said he couldn't breathe and begged not to be killed and cried out for his "mama," we would "demand" that they were only doing regular police work.

If that white man was on 11 ng/Ml of fentanyl, had been foaming at the mouth, had been complaining that he couldn't breath for several minutes before he was ever lying on the ground, had he been resisting arrest, had he refused to get into the back of the vehicle, and if he had crawled through the vehicle to find his spot lying on the street....


And the medical examiner stated under oath in a deposition that under normal circumstances he would have suggested that the death certificate would say he died of a drug overdose...


Then no, Reverend...

I would not have believed that the black cops were being racist.


but that is just me.

I prefer ALL OF THE FACTS to just taking a small portion designed to mislead.

Anonymous said...

Trump attempts to position himself as the candidate who will keep the country safe, Biden is the one leading in perceptions on the issue and others tied to it.

Between the two candidates, more Americans trust Biden over Trump to keep the country safe, 55%-42%; to keep their families safe, 56%-42%; to care more about them, 59%-38%; to unite the country, 64%-33%; to handle the protests across the country, 59%-39%; to address racial discrimination, 64%-34%; to manage the COVID-19 response, 60%-38%; and to reduce violence in the country, 59%-39%.

Anonymous said...

A full autopsy report on George Floyd, the man who died after being restrained by Minneapolis police last month, reveals that he was positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The 20-page report also indicates that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system at the time of his death, although the drugs are not listed as the cause.


Floyd's death has been ruled a homicide.

Anonymous said...

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus

Anonymous said...

The 20-page report also indicates that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system at the time of his death, although the drugs are not listed as the cause.


Floyd's death has been ruled a homicide.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

John McCain will be known as the last Republican.

C.H. Truth said...

Well Denny...

That is what the death certificate stated... "Homicide".

But the person who wrote it has since revealed under oath that he wrote that certificate before having all of the toxicology and other medical reports. He also stated under oath that had he had just done a normal autopsy of the body, waited for all of the information, and not ever seen any videos or otherwise had any pressure...

that he is 100% sure that he would have ruled it an overdose.


I am guessing whoever you are quoting is either unaware of (or purposely ignoring) the recent depositions being done by defense attorneys of the police officers charged.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scott A**hole lies as often as the President.

"he would have suggested that the death certificate would say he died of a drug overdose..." he did not say what you claimed.


The 20-page report also indicates that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system at the time of his death, although the drugs are not listed as the cause.

He's not a hero because he was captured.

cowardly king obama said...


McCain’s Key Role in Fueling Post-Election Trump-Russia Hysteria

In his 2018 book, The Restless Wave, the late Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) wondered aloud why he was sought out and given the infamous Steele dossier shortly after the 2016 presidential election.

After suggesting that anyone who questioned his role in handling the political document was indulging in “conspiracy theories,” McCain offered his explanation: “The answer is too obvious for the paranoid to credit. I am known internationally to be a persistent critic of Vladimir Putin’s regime and I have been a long while.”

It is true that McCain was an outspoken critic of Putin. But the big problem with McCain’s defense is that by the time he wrote those words—presumably the end of 2017, since the book was published in late May 2018—it already was public knowledge that the dossier had been authored and distributed by political pimps funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. When McCain was writing his book, many of the culprits were in serious legal jeopardy.

Christopher Steele, the dossier’s author, was being sued for defamation and was under congressional scrutiny in 2017. (McCain had sent his close associate, David Kramer, to meet Steele in London shortly after the 2016 election to track down gossip about the president-elect.) Steele also remains the subject of a criminal referral at the Justice Department for lying to federal officials.

McCain’s Senate colleagues were investigating Fusion GPS and its owner, Glenn Simpson, who produced and peddled the fabricated document, in the summer of 2017. (It was Simpson, not Steele as McCain suggested in his book, who gave Kramer the dossier in late November 2016; McCain would later provide that copy of the dossier to former FBI Director James Comey, who already had used the sleazily obtained and Democrat-funded opposition research to get a secret court’s approval to spy on Trump campaign aide Carter Page.)

Kramer also testified before the House Intelligence Committee in December 2017 related to its probe of the dossier, and he later invoked his Fifth Amendment right to avoid further questioning.
continues:
https://amgreatness.com/2019/03/20/mccains-key-role-in-fueling-post-election-trump-russia-hysteria/

McCain's main man having to take the 5th, not a good look.. and there is much more.
.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You are a pathological liar.

This is untrue.

that he is 100% sure that he would have ruled it an overdose.


The 20-page report also indicates that Floyd had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system at the time of his death, although the drugs are not listed as the cause.

Anonymous said...

stop LYING alky...


New exhibits filed in the case against the four former Minneapolis Police Officers accused of murdering George Floyd suggest the Hennepin County Medical Examiner thought George Floyd’s fentanyl levels were at a potentially “fatal level”, but his and other medical examiner’s findings showed he died of a combination of factors.

Six pieces of evidence were filed in the case Tuesday one day after former officer Tou Thao’s attorneys requested the release of the full autopsy reports from the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, the Armed Forces Medical Examiner and the private medical examiners hired by George Floyd’s family.

The Armed Forces Medical Examiner filed a memorandum agreeing with the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s final conclusion that Floyd's death was a homicide, saying, “His death was caused by the police subdual and restraint in the setting of severe hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, and methamphetamine and fentanyl intoxication.”

However, two other memos filed Tuesday from the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office about conversations with Chief Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker paint a different picture about the nature of Floyd’s death.

In one memorandum filed May 26 after a virtual meeting with Baker, the Attorney’s Office said Baker concluded, “The autopsy revealed no physical evidence suggesting that Mr. Floyd died of asphyxiation.” Baker told the attorney his investigation was incomplete pending a toxicology report, however.

The other memorandum filed June 1 by the Attorney’s Office indicated Baker said Floyd’s level of fentanyl was “pretty high,” and a potentially “fatal level.”

"[Dr. Andrew Baker] said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death,” the June 1 memo said.


https://www.fox9.com/news/court-filings-medical-examiner-thought-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-system


a junkie OD'd. physical autopsy revealed NO TRAUMA to neck region. NONE.

case fucking closed.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Very few of the jobs are new jobs

Economists noted that last month's sharp drop in the unemployment rate reflected mainly businesses recalling workers who had been temporarily laid off rather than hiring new employees. The influx of those recalled workers has lowered unemployment more quickly than most economists had expected. But many other laid-off Americans now regard their job losses as permanent.

cowardly king obama said...


Medical Examiner Concluded George Floyd Likely Died Of Fentanyl Overdose, Court Docs Reveal

New court documents have uncovered two memorandums, dated May 26 and June 1, that suggest Chief Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker concluded George Floyd likely died from a fentanyl overdose and found “no physical evidence suggesting” that he died of asphyxiation.

“AB (Andrew Baker) said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death,” says a memo dated June 1, outlining a May 31 virtual with Dr. Baker.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/medical-examiner-concluded-george-floyd-likely-died-of-fentanyl-overdose-court-docs-reveal

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

potentially “fatal level.”

Is not the definitive cause of death

cowardly king obama said...


thanks rrb, different source, same conclusion.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

drugs are not listed as the cause.

Caliphate4vr said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Very few of the jobs are new jobs


Jeezus Alky is that the best you got?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

"If he were found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be acceptable to call an OD. Deaths have been certified with levels of 3," Baker told investigators.

In another new document, Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."

But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."

https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/local/george-floyd/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."

https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/local/george-floyd/new-court-docs-say-george-floyd-had-fatal-level-of-fentanyl-in-his-system/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04

You would have been a terrible lawyer

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

mainly businesses recalling workers who had been temporarily laid off rather than hiring new employees.

Caliphate4vr said...

Who would have never been laid off if the country hadn’t lost its fucking mind over a virus that only kills the old and sickly

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A reminder: It’s illegal to vote twice. But not to impeach twice.

Dan Rather

Anonymous said...



Dan Rather


the grand fucking master at forging docs from the 1970's in Microsoft WORD.

LOL.

cowardly king obama said...

Roger Amick said...
But then Baker added, "I am not saying this killed him."

in other words

"I am not saying this didn't kill him."

and he did say

"That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."

and

“no physical evidence suggesting” that he died of asphyxiation.

thanks for the clarification

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

drugs are not listed as the cause.


neither is neck/spine/airway trauma. all three were completely unharmed and unrelated to his overdose.

read the fucking autopsy and keep reading it until you comprehend the fucking thing.


Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Actually the cause of death was 8 minutes and 46 seconds of a strangling hold

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He may have passed away alone at home.

But he died while he was on a strangling hold on his neck.


This entire project here is to deny the fact that African Americans citizens are killed by the police, by a lot high percentage, than caucasians

C.H. Truth said...

Well Roger...

A good lawyer would understand that it is the prosecution's responsibility to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that he was murdered.

It's not up to the defense to offer anything but reasonable doubt. All they have to do is provide the jury with information showing that it's reasonable to assume that he died from an overdose.

They don't have to prove it was an overdose. Just that it is reasonably possible.

This is not a preponderance of evidence situation. If the coroner cannot say for sure that he was murdered, but has to remain open to the possibility that he overdosed...

Well then, that is reasonable doubt.


A good lawyer will simply ask the coroner if the levels of fentanyl, the foaming at the mouth, the complaints about not being able to breath while simply standing and walking from his car to the police car, and the amount of liquid in his lungs are consistent with a drug overdose.

Furthermore, he will probe the coroner who will have to say under oath that there was no physical signs of strangulation or other damage that would prove conclusively that the knee on the neck caused his death.


And no honest jury will convict police officers of murder.

C.H. Truth said...

Actually the cause of death was 8 minutes and 46 seconds of a strangling hold

You do realize that the knee to the neck is not a strangulation hold and is an accepted and trained restraint procedure for all Minnesota police officers.

You do also realize that the medical examiner found no physical evidence of trauma to the throat or esophagus to suggest it was strangulation.


So there is neither physical or medical evidence to back up the concept that he was strangled to death. But there is more than enough physical and medical evidence to suggest he overdosed.



It's simple Roger...

You just need to listen to the science.

ignore your petty emotions.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

After the autopsy was released the police officer was arrested and charged with murder in the second degree.


You are ignoring the scientists conclusion.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

medical evidence to suggested he overdosed. It did not conclude that his drug dosage killed him.

Your a terrible lawyer

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The use of strangulation hold should be forbidden by law.

But you don't care because he's not a conservative or not white supremacist

C.H. Truth said...

So Roger...


are you seriously suggesting that there is no chance that George Floyd died of a drug overdose?

Keeping in mind that the defense doesn't have to prove that case, just offer it as a possibility?

cowardly king obama said...


roger would be a great juror at a lynching

"Hang him high"

"Guilty as sin"

"Screw any doubt, my mind is made up"

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The president opened his GOP presidential campaign by mocking Sen. John McCain’s status as a prisoner of war and then attacked a Gold Star family who spoke out against him, and claimed that Obama was born in Kenya, although his most loyal followers no longer believe he made those public comments.

Because they are cultists.

Anonymous said...



running away from the george floyd thread alky?

can't say as i blame you.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The fact that he had been using drugs, there is no evidence that the drug effects caused his death

The autopsy report did not confirm drugs caused his death

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The fact that he had been using drugs, there is no evidence that the drug effects caused his death

The autopsy report did not confirm drugs caused his death

cowardly king obama said...

rrb said...


running away from the george floyd thread alky?

can't say as i blame you.


Well the autopsy report on roger will show a fatal dose of TDS.

Anonymous said...

ok alky, let's think this through.

explain to me how you strangle someone for over eight minutes without leaving a single trace of trauma to the neck & throat area.


INTERNAL EXAMINATION:

HEAD:

The soft tissues of the scalp are free of injury. The
calvarium is intact, as is the dura mater beneath it. Clear
cerebrospinal fluid surrounds the 1380 g brain, which has
unremarkable gyri and sulci. Coronal sections demonstrate sharp
demarcation between white and gray matter, without hemorrhage or
contusive injury. The ventricles are of normal size. The basal
ganglia, brainstem, cerebellum, and arterial systems are free of
injury or other abnormalities. There are no skull fractures.
The atlanto-occipital joint is stable.


NECK:

Layer by layer dissection of the anterior strap muscles of
the neck discloses no areas of contusion or hemorrhage within
the musculature.

The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone are
intact.

The larynx is lined by intact mucosa.

The thyroid is symmetric and red-brown, without cystic or nodular change.

The tongue is free of bite marks, hemorrhage, or other injuries.

The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free of
hemorrhage.

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

Anonymous said...

so alky, i'll ask again -

how do you strangle a person until dead with no trace of trauma to the neck/throat area whatsoever.

as in fucking NONE.

in virtually every case of strangulation at the very least the hyoid bone is broken. Dr. Michael Baden has testified to that countless times. Floyd's was intact.

so again - how do you kill a person via strangulation for 8 minutes and 46 seconds and leave no trace?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A former senior administration official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly, confirmed to The Washington Post that the president frequently made disparaging comments about veterans and soldiers missing in action, referring to them at times as “losers.”

In one account, the president told senior advisers that he didn’t understand why the U.S. government placed such value on finding soldiers missing in action because they had performed poorly and gotten caught and deserved what they got, according to a person familiar with the discussion.

Trump believed people who served in the Vietnam War must be “losers” because they hadn’t gotten out of it, according to a person familiar with the comments. Trump also complained bitterly to then-Chief of Staff John F. Kelly that he didn’t understand why Kelly and others in the military treated McCain, who had been imprisoned and tortured during the Vietnam War, with such reverence. “Isn’t he kind of a loser?” Trump asked, according to the person familiar with Trump’s comments.

Trump, who received a medical deferment from Vietnam over alleged bone spurs, has said as much publicly about McCain. During the 2016 presidential election, Trump derided McCain’s legacy as a war hero, saying of his years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, “I like people who weren’t captured.”

Trump often boasts of his support for the military but often exaggerates his record. Service members have received annual pay increases every year for decades, not just under Trump. The president has falsely claimed he produced the first pay raise for service members in a decade. However, Trump did produce the largest one-year increase in pay since 2010, according to Pentagon data.

The first expansion of veterans’ health care to include private-sector doctors, often touted by Trump as the centerpiece of his veterans advocacy, began under President Barack Obama following the wait time scandal at the Phoenix VA hospital in 2014.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Your the dumbest man ever before

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-said-us-soldiers-injured-and-killed-in-war-were-losers-magazine-reports/2020/09/03/6e1725cc-ee35-11ea-99a1-71343d03bc29_story.html

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The police officer's lawyer is going to have a tough time proving beyond a reasonable doubt about how he died.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Rep. Ruben Gallego, an Arizona Democrat and Harvard graduate who served in a Marine infantry battalion during the Iraq war, said Trump simply doesn't get the concept of sacrifice for the greater good.

"The man has no honor, and can never understand the millions of men and women that serve with honor for their country," Gallego told NBC News. "I served with and buried men that even in a thousand lifetimes Trump couldn't come close to matching their honor, courage and commitment."

A Harvard graduate is a lot smarter than Thecoldheartedtruth

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

There is systemic racism in the police departments?

New Photos Show at Least One Cop in Deadly Breonna Taylor Raid Was Wearing a Body Camera
The Louisville police department has said there was no body camera footage of the raid that led to the death of Breonna Taylor.

By Roberto Ferdman, Nicole Bozorgmir and Juanita Ceballos

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At least one of the officers participating in the deadly raid on Breonna Taylor’s home was wearing a body camera, and at least one other was wearing a body camera holder, according to crime scene photographs taken by the Louisville Metro Police Department and obtained by VICE News.

This contradicts statements by the Louisville Metro Police Department that the officers involved, who work narcotics, do not wear body cameras. The department has also said there is no body camera footage from the raid. It’s unclear, however, if the camera present was turned on during the raid.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

FOX NEWS CONFIRMS TRUMP DISPARAGED VETERANS
September 4, 2020 at 4:32 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

TWO FORMER SENIOUS TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS CONFIRMED to Fox News that President Trump REGULARLY DISPARAGED VETERANS.

According to one former senior Trump administration official:
“When the President spoke about the Vietnam War, he said, ‘It was a stupid war. Anyone who went was a sucker’.”

He added:
“What’s in it for them? They don’t make any money.”

Explained the source:
“It was a character flaw of the President. He could not understand why someone would die for their country, not worth it.”
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Now you KNOW Fox NEWS would BE SURE TO CHECK OUT the RELIABILITY of their sources.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Biden Lights Into Trump for Calling War Dead ‘Losers’
September 4, 2020 at 2:25 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

Joe Biden lit into President Trump for his reported comments denigrating U.S. war dead as “losers” and “suckers,” Bloomberg reports.

Said Biden: “It’s disgusting, and it affirms what most of us believe to be true: that Donald Trump is not fit to do the job of president, to be the commander in chief.”

He added: “President Trump has demonstrated he has no sense of service, no loyalty to any cause other than himself.”
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Trump Reverses Decision to Shutter ‘Stars and Stripes’
September 4, 2020 at 5:15 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 318 Comments

President Trump reversed a decision to cut funding to Stars and Stripes, a newspaper that has served American soldiers since the Civil War, USA Today reports.
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Quote of the Day
September 4, 2020 at 3:36 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 265 Comments

“Just a reminder that Trump officially threatened to veto this year’s defense bill because he wants actual losers in the Civil War to have bases and installations named after them.”
— Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI), on Twitter.
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BIDEN TAKES LEAD IN TEXAS!!!
September 4, 2020 at 1:56 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 290 Comments

A new Data for Progress poll in Texas finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race, 48% to 45%.

WOW! TEXAS!
IF THAT WERE TO HOLD, KISS THE WH GOODBYE DONALD!

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Trump Suspects John Kelly Is Behind Story
September 5, 2020 at 7:33 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

President Trump said his former chief of staff, John Kelly, could have been one of the four anonymous sources used by The Atlantic in the publication’s report that the president made disparaging comments about military troops, CNN reports.

Said Trump: “It could have been a guy like a John Kelly.”

An amusing sentence from the New York Times: “Mr. Kelly refused on-the-record interview requests about his recollection of comments Mr. Trump had reportedly made when Mr. Kelly was with him on a 2018 trip to France.”

That makes it seem Kelly has been more than willing to talk “off the-record.”



Few Military Officers Willing to Defend Trump
September 5, 2020 at 7:25 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

New York Times:
“The president privately raged about The Atlantic’s article on Friday morning, and advisers were panicked about how to counter it. They feared it was the beginning of a constant drip of negative stories from disenchanted former officials that could sway voters.

"While Mr. Trump demanded that allies knock down the article, aides recognized that few senior military officers were willing to openly defend the president.”