Meanwhile the United States is in the depths of a "second wave" which is killing nearly a thousand people a day. A second wave, that has oddly skipped over states like Wyoming, and the Dakotas (which like Sweden, did not close anything down).
The interesting thing here is that we were literally told this would happen, but never quite listened. The entire idea of the lock downs was to flatten the curve, which assumes that the same amount of people would get sick either way, but that we would not see it all at once.
The entire concept of a second wave is exactly what the lock downs would logically produce as soon as restrictions were loosened. The idea was to put off until later what they didn't feel that they could deal with at the time. But yet, we watch as people act surprised or otherwise deceived by the fact that people are still dying.
Ironically our fearful Covid leader, Dr Fauci, recently suggested that what Sweden did (hasten a herd immunity) was not even something that could be considered a strategy. Yet, here we are (with our wonderful strategy of restricting everyone's rights, shutting down people's businesses, bankrupting people, and otherwise ruining lives, all for the goal of flattening the curve)... literally worse off than Sweden (which appears to have put the worst of it behind them).
Now the bigger irony is that even with hindsight being 20-20, most of the country appears to believe the opposite of what the science has already told us. Most believe that our second wave was not an inevitable consequence of the flattening the curve strategy, but rather they believe some unfounded idea that locking down the country for a short period of time would eradicate the virus all together. A theory that pretty much nobody from the CDC or task force ever suggested.
Moreover, the second wave has largely been blamed on Florida, Arizona, Georgia and other red states (opening too soon)... even though California has taken over the most cases award by over 70,000 cases, and has passed up every red state in deaths (while still in a statewide lock down). Oh, and don't look now, but Illinois has reported 7500 cases over the past two days, which would place them again at the top of that heap. As things settle down in the sun belt states, that wave seems to be moving northward. Let's just hope and pray it doesn't find it's way back to New York and New Jersey anytime soon.
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One thing (of many) that bothers me is the comparing of US deaths to the world. They can't be compared because cause of death in US is listed as Covid if it is present, even if it wasn't the cause. Like the CDC recently reported only 6 % of reported US deaths were strictly Covid, the others had comorbidity conditions. Most with multiple others.
And by far almost all are elderly. Many already on their deathbed.
Now the bigger irony is that even with hindsight being 20-20, most of the country appears to believe the opposite of what the science has already told us. Most believe that our second wave was not an inevitable consequence of the flattening the curve strategy, but rather they believe some unfounded idea that locking down the country for a short period of time would eradicate the virus all together. A theory that pretty much nobody from the CDC or task force ever suggested.
This is what flabbergasts me. These idiots believe the lockdown would lead to fewer infections. It’s a virus, it’s here forever and we will all eventually get it. The pastor still doesn’t understand basic math and that is the volume under a curve whether sharp or flattened is constant
Amazing how Lil Schitty is still berating Fauci and the mouth of the south questions without proof that lockdowns do result in fewer infections!!!!! Sad that the coward speculates many are already on their death beds...too bad he is not one of them with the rest of you science deniers right behind!!!!!! BWAAAAAAPAAAAAA!!!! Three more examples of our failed education system!!!!!!
el gato malo
@boriquagato
presuming this is correct, this is truly striking data.
it shows how much the incredibly inclusive swedish covid death counting (any death from any reason within 30 days of + diagnosis) affected the numbers.
5813 reported. only 872 as direct cause.
Johan Hellström
@jhnhellstrom
Interesting numbers when I used the death certificate audit data from two Swedish regions where C-19 was established as a direct cause of death and excluded C-19 as a minor contributing factor only.
GRAPH:
https://twitter.com/jhnhellstrom/status/1301073768748593153
panic porn ???
Proponents of herd immunity have looked to emulate Sweden’s more hands-off approach; unlike most countries in Europe, the Nordic country opted out of a nationwide lockdown and kept most businesses open.
But Sweden’s strategy didn’t entail a total return to normalcy. The Swedish government implemented a ban on gatherings of 50 people or more, and many Swedes voluntarily followed social distancing guidelines.
Former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb noted in an op-ed published on Aug. 30 that in addition to being much larger than Sweden (a country with a population the same size as North Carolina’s), the U.S. has a high rate of citizens with preexisting conditions, which can lead to a higher rate of COVID-19 complications; about 10 percent of Americans have diabetes, and 40 percent are considered obese.
Moreover, Sweden’s pursuit of natural herd immunity doesn’t appear to be working. A study released in June by the country’s Health Agency showed that only 6 percent of Swedes had developed antibodies to the coronavirus — though a recent study from Sweden’s Karolinska Institute and Karolinska University Hospital suggests that immunity in Sweden may be higher than antibody tests indicate.
The role of antibodies and how much of an impact they have on long-term immunity is still questionable. A U.K. study, which had not yet been peer-reviewed, found that antibodies may start to decline 20 to 30 days after the onset of COVID-19 symptoms. And a Chinese study found that antibody levels in patients who had recovered from COVID-19 fell sharply within two to three months after infection.
Falling antibody counts may not necessarily mean waning immunity; other immune responses such as T-cells could also affect how long immunity lasts. But the case for natural herd immunity is made even more improbable by reports of coronavirus reinfections in Hong Kong, Europe and the U.S. If natural immunity is as short-lived as a few months, that wouldn’t be stable enough to provide community or nationwide protection.
the U.S. has a high rate of citizens with preexisting conditions, which can lead to a higher rate of COVID-19 complications; about 10 percent of Americans have diabetes, and 40 percent are considered obese.
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