Then why decide to impeach him with the idea of preventing him from running again?
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| Wouldn't Democrats want to encourage a 2024 Trump run? |
This seems about as counterintuitive as anything we have run across recently. If Trump was half the monster that liberals and the cancel culture believe that he is, then he wouldn't get past Iowa in 2024 without being laughed out of the state... after being tarred and feathered just because.
It actually seems like Democrats might actually be afraid of a 2024 run by Donald Trump? Of course, it's still on 2021 and who knows what the political scene will look like in three years. Trump might be yesterday's news, or he could end up still being a formidable force in the Party.
Right now, they seem to be doing everything in their power to make him into some sort of martyr for his faithful to see as being horribly wronged, then wronged some more, then wronged again for saying he was wronged, before wronging him one last time for good measure.
Seems rather obsessive for a man who very likely would otherwise have very little political clout if people just let him fade.
60 comments:
Behold the power of Stage IV Trump Derangement Syndrome.
LOL Do you actually think the Republican party is stupid enough to nominate Trump again for president?
Oh, any by the way, I am in full agreement with "letting him fade."
That's why, whether the Dems start impeachment proceedings or simply censure, they should then back down and just let the whole matter hang there without paying it much attention as they give Biden a hundred days to establish his own agenda.
By then, Trump may be so "faded" that no one will care all that much whether he is impeached or not.
There are a LOT of Republicans who would like for him to fade.
House Introduces Article of Impeachment
11:06 am
House Democrats on Monday formally introduced an article of impeachment against President Trump, charging him with “incitement of insurrection” for his role in the takeover of the Capitol last week by a violent pro-Trump mob, the Washington Post reports.
The House could vote as early as Wednesday.
D.C. Mayor Seeks to Cancel Public Gathering Permits
11:05 am
Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser requests Interior secretary “cancel any and all public gathering permits in the District of Columbia, and deny any applications for a public gathering during the period January 11 – January 24,” ABC News reports.
FBI Seeks Identity of Confederate Flag Guy
10:58 am
Daily Beast: “It was one of the most shocking images of the Trumpist storming of the U.S. Capitol last week—a bearded man, making no attempt to disguise his identity, brazenly strolling around the building while brandishing a Confederate flag. But, despite the fact that his face was splashed across the front pages of newspapers around the world last week, the FBI hasn’t yet been able to identify the man, and it’s now appealing to the public for their help.”
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Will someone turn in their crazy uncle?
Fury Grows on Capitol Hill
10:55 am
Politico: “Democrats are weighing how to fast-track their plans to impeach President Donald Trump this week as new details, images and video further fuel the rage over the deadly domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol and those who enabled it.
“Don’t underestimate just how shaken members of Congress have been by last week’s attack. Lawmakers had to flee the House and Senate chambers just minutes before the mob broke in, and now they’re learning more about just how close we came to a much greater tragedy. They’re furious, and they want answers and accountability. And it’s not just Democrats who feel this way.”
You better believe that.
RealClearPolitics
Trump Job Approval
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Keep following that, and keep your eye on the graph.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president/trumpbidenfavorability.html
Trump Biden Favorability
Another one to watch.
Scott, the main reason is to pass a resolution denying Trump the right to run for federal office.
This last week was the most dangerous situation in history.
Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, said after Pence’s announcement he was denied access to the White House grounds, apparently on orders from Trump.
— Most profound, arguably, is the basic question: Who, if anyone, is actually running the government? Journalists have described Trump, during the midst of a deadly pandemic, as largely checked out from most work beyond fulminating angrily about the election and his assertion that it was stolen.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday called Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark A. Milley expressing concern about an erratic Trump ordering an ill-considered military action as he clings to power, and apparently urging Milley to have the military resist that if he tries. The notion that these types of conversations are taking place in the leadership of a country armed with nuclear weapons, and facing adversaries who have them also, is breathtaking. Let’s hope we stay lucky. But it’s entirely possible a full inquiry might reveal the Trump transition as among the most perilous moments in national security since 9/11 or the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Do you really want a deranged man as the President of the United states,?
Scott if you continue on this reality show blog the Republican party may dissapear.
Supreme Court rejects fast track for Trump election cases
Associated Press
January 11, 2021, 9:08 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court on Monday formally refused to put on a fast track election challenges filed by President Donald Trump and his allies.
The court rejected pleas for quick consideration of cases involving the outcome in five states won by President-elect Joe Biden: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
The orders, issued without comment, were unsurprising. The justices had previously taken no action in those cases in advance of last week's counting of the electoral votes in Congress, which confirmed Biden's victory.
The court still could act on appeals related to the Nov. 3 election later this winter or in the spring. Several justices had expressed interest in a Pennsylvania case involving the state Supreme Court's decision to extend the deadline for receipt of mailed ballots by three days, over the opposition of the Republican-controlled legislature.
But even if the court were to take up an election-related case, it probably wouldn't hear arguments until the fall.
___________
"Where is the loyalty of those justices I put in?" Trump must be screaming.
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[Er... Mr. President, you never got it through your thick skill that our loyalty should first and foremost be to our Constitution and the will of our people.
That's why you're headed so unceremoniously out the door.]
GOP Blocks Measure Pushing Pence on 25th Amendment
11:18 am
“House Republicans on Monday blocked a measure calling on Vice President Pence and Trump’s Cabinet to remove him under the 25th Amendment,” the Washington Post reports.
“The procedural move by the GOP to block consideration of the measure under unanimous consent will force the full House to vote Tuesday on the resolution. The resolution pressures Pence to initiate proceedings to remove Trump in the wake of the attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob and as calls from Trump’s impeachment grow.”
This should prove to be interesting.
I got tested 4 days ago for covid-19. I am NEGATIVE!
Scott loves the President but some people have a mind.
Wall Street distances itself from Trump, GOP after riots
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Scott if you continue on this reality show blog the Republican party may dissapear.
yeah, that's it toolbox. we're still wandering in the wilderness from the LAST TIME you predicted this.
LOL.
fucking stooge.
Many Republicans agree Trump went too far but remain divided over consequences
NBC Universal
With a second possible impeachment of President Donald Trump on the horizon, some Republicans are saying his conduct in egging on a mob that rioted at the Capitol last week is worthy of impeachment or removal. Others, however, say taking action against Trump could inflame tensions further.
Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., said on NBC News' "Meet the Press" that he believes Trump should resign immediately, joining a handful of Republican colleagues calling for him to go. Toomey said that he believed Trump's conduct is impeachable but that the appropriate step is for him to leave office before his term ends Jan. 20.
"The best way for our country," Toomey said, is "for the president to resign and go away as soon as possible. I acknowledge that may not be likely, but that would be best."
Toomey's remarks reflect a growing momentum in Washington to hold Trump accountable for Wednesday's unrest. The riots prompted a number of Republicans, including Cabinet members and longtime allies, to speak out.
"Wednesday changed everything," former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said on "Meet the Press."
"They love Trump, they love the policies, they were really pleased with the successes of the first four years, but he lost them on Wednesday," Mulvaney said of conservatives he's spoken with. "And I think that's, I think that's the right thing. I think people need to know that what happened on Wednesday is just different."
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a longtime ally of Trump's, said on ABC News' "This Week" that if Trump's conduct Wednesday wasn't an impeachable offense, "then I don't know what is."
Christie said that while he is sure there is "some fear" among Republicans of speaking out against Trump and earning the wrath of his staunchest supporters, he hasn't "heard it this week."
"What I've heard from fellow Republicans is that they've had enough and that the president's conduct quite frankly since [the riot] has gotten them upset," he said.
Wednesday's riot at the Capitol took place after Trump rallied supporters near the White House and encouraged them to march toward Congress as lawmakers began to tally the Electoral College results, a formality that Trump had hoped to upend. Crowds of supporters breached the Capitol, ransacking the building, forcing lawmakers, staff members and journalists into hiding and causing several deaths.
House Democrats have started drawing up articles of impeachment, which they say could be introduced in Congress early this week. As it is, majorities of Democrats in both the House and the Senate now support Trump's removal from office, in addition to the several Republicans.
Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., who has called for Trump's removal via the 25th Amendment, said he doesn't believe impeachment is the right call.
"I think it victimizes Donald Trump again, and I think there's a moment that we're in right now where Donald Trump, he's looking really, really bad," Kinzinger said on "This Week," adding, "I'll vote the right way, you know, if I'm presented with that. I just think it's probably not the smartest move right now, but I think that's going to be out of my hands."
Speaking on CNN's "Inside Politics," Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., called Trump's falsehoods about the electoral process "the big lie that was being told to the American people."
"My life was at risk, all of my colleagues," she said. "We were sitting ducks in the halls of Congress on Wednesday, and it was terrifying. I had to have a security detail at home. I'm still receiving threats right now online and on social media, and our words are sometimes taken quite literally. Everyone was put at risk, unnecessarily so."
But, she said, a "snap impeachment" might be like "pouring gasoline on the fire."
"This is serious," she said. "This is not going away any time soon. We have time in the days, the weeks and the months ahead to address [it]. I want to be thoughtful about how we go about doing it without further tearing our nation apart, because the last thing I want to see is more violence in our country in any of our cities."
Already, Trump has been booted from social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook, and he is facing denouncements from the private sector. Extremists are vowing to return to Washington, D.C., for President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration, and Democrats and some Republicans say it remains dangerous with him still in office.
Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said he believes Trump should finish out the final 10 days of his term.
"The president should be very careful over the next 10 days that his behavior is what you'd expect from the leader of the greatest country in the world," Blunt said on CBS News' "Face the Nation," adding an explanation akin to one that Republicans offered the first time Trump was impeached -- that he had learned his lesson and wouldn't engage in similar conduct.
"Now, my personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again," Blunt said. "And if that's the case, I think ... every day, we get closer to the last day of his presidency. We should be thinking more about the first day of the next presidency than the last day of his presidency, in my view."
He added that whether Trump committed an impeachable offense is "not really the question," because lawmakers are almost out of time to impeach him before his term ends.
On Fox News, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, one of Trump's staunchest allies and defenders, said impeachment is "not healthy for the nation."
"We are at an important point," he said. "I'm very concerned about where we're at. I hope, I hope we can begin to come back together."
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So even Jim Jordan is saying we need to "come back together."
But that can only happen minus Trump.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I got tested 4 days ago for covid-19. I am NEGATIVE!
And you could’ve caught in the last 4 days, stay in lockdown, you’re old and sickly
More importantly RTR
Roll, Tide Roll
There was no call for lawless action by Trump. Instead, there was a call for a protest at the Capitol. Moreover, violence was not imminent, as the vast majority of the tens of thousands of protesters were not violent before the march, and most did not riot inside the Capitol. Like many violent protests in the last four years, criminal conduct was carried out by a smaller group of instigators. Capitol Police knew of the march but declined an offer from the National Guard since they did not view violence as likely.
So Congress is now seeking an impeachment for remarks covered by the First Amendment. It would create precedent for the impeachment of any president blamed for violent acts of others after using reckless language. What is worse are those few cases that would support this type of action. The most obvious is the 1918 prosecution of socialist Eugene Debs, who spoke against the draft in World War One and led figures like Woodrow Wilson to declare him a “traitor to his country.” Debs was arrested and charged with sedition, a new favorite term for Democrats to denounce Trump and Republicans who doubted the victory of Joe Biden.
In 1919, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote for a unanimous bench in one of the most infamous decisions to issue from the Supreme Court. It dismissed the free speech rights for Debs and held it was sufficient that his words had the “natural tendency and reasonably probable effect” of deterring people from supporting the international conflict.
That decision was a disgrace, but Democrats are now arguing something even more extreme as the basis for impeachment. Under their theory, any president could be removed for rhetoric that is seen to have the “natural tendency” to encourage others to act in a riotous fashion. Even a call for supporters to protest peacefully could not be a defense. Such a standard would allow for a type of vicarious impeachment that attributes conduct of third parties to any president for the purposes of removal.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/533469-swift-second-impeachment-would-damage-the-constitution
What another great day living in the Great Plains.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I got tested 4 days ago for covid-19. I am NEGATIVE!
and Lydia tested negative for 2 black eyes and a swollen jaw. no thanks to you.
Jim, I have enough information about you, that that I will file suits for false accusations.
Total Adult US Population.
"209,128,094"
Total Adults Voted in 2020 Pres. Election "157,456,734"
Pelosi on 60 Minutes
“Sadly, the person who’s running the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president of the United States, and only a number of days until we can be protected from him,” Pelosi said. “And he has done something so serious that there should be prosecution against him.”
I don't think that they should spend time on federal charges. But the State of New York will prosecute him.
it's Hitler, alky.
Jim Hitler.
no relation to Adolf. I did the ancestry.com DNA thing just to be safe.
LOL.
I got tested 4 days ago for a brain scan. It came back NEGATIVE!
Unless Trump moves out of the United States, he will be in court for years and he may get convicted of fraud and tax evasion.
I'm 56% Northern European, mostly German but my original grandfather came here in 1752.
Lolololololololololol
Damn hard believe i agree with her
German Chancellor Angela Merkel considers it “problematic” that Twitter would toss President Trump off its social media platform, saying through a spokesmen Monday that the president’s ability to express his opinion is a fundamental right of “elementary significance.”
“This fundamental right can be intervened in, but according to the law and within the framework defined by legislators — not according to a decision by the management of social media platforms,” Merkel spokesman Steffen Seibert told reporters in Berlin.
“Seen from this angle, the chancellor considers it problematic that the accounts of the U.S. president have now been permanently blocked,” he added.
Trumpaholic meeting room! Scott, please read the 12 steps!
1. We admitted we were powerless over Donald Trump – that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than our–selves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Trumpalcoholics and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Thanks!
Lincoln Project Co-Founder John Weaver Accused by Multiple Young Men of Grooming for Sex
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2021/01/10/john-weaver-n307537
No surprise James adore that pedo.
NOC Stock. Dopie stock $293
Home Depot, mine. $272
This time last year
NOC Stock = $381
Home Depot= $232
Don't invest like a Dopie.
Do invest like A Ranch.
You believe that shit about peoples who don't love Trump.
That could be Russian propaganda dipshit.
Roger Amick said...
Hang Mike Pence Hang Mike Pence
This post has been reported to federal authorities:
Blogger does not tolerate calling for violence against a political leader
Why is Roger pissing in his adult diaper in his "Room"?
Pence Upset Trump Hasn’t Reached Out
2:06 pm
NBC News:
“There is also a deepening and widespread anger among Pence’s aides and allies at how Trump seemingly discarded his most devoted soldier over his refusal to circumvent an important constitutional duty, per these people. The president’s decision not to reach out to Pence and his family while they were sheltered inside a Capitol bunker as pro-Trump rioters breached the building has particularly rankled Pence and others in his orbit.
“The vice president himself is ‘very upset’ that Trump didn’t do more to dissuade the mob, some of whom chanted for Pence’s execution.”
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Pence made the mistake of thinking self-worshiping Trump is capable of decency toward others.
Thank you JamesNewLeaf,
I am glad someone is concerned about the collective welfare of my aids and allies. I was not made aware of this, but now that I have I can wallow in my grief.
Dutifully yours,
V.P. Mike Pence
Failure in the NFL.
7 open head coach Jobs
with only 32 head coaching jobs.
Trump approval hits 33% in @QuinnipiacPoll. They've had bad numbers for Trump, but that's the lowest in *their* poll. And there's some intuitive sense: Beyond the horror this week, there's no reason to unify before an election. W's approval only collapsed as a lame duck too.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You believe that shit about peoples who don't love Trump.
That could be Russian propaganda dipshit.
LOL. no alky, i believe that the lincoln project is a pack of sexual predator child molesters.
Mike, just REALLY stand up to the unworthy rascal. Then you'll feel a LOT better.
re 1:46 And cannibals. Don't leave that out.
Harris is polishing off the 25th Amendment for Joe.
She understands her job, remove Joe, at all cost.
James, you still running from me because your afraid, but Why?
You said I "trick" you.
James, you still running from me because your afraid, but Why?
You said I "trick" you.
QAnon troll squad asshole
georgie conway looks like the kind of guy who would take his liberties with pre-pubescent males.
and rick wilson looks like a power bottom. with steve schmidt on top yelling "who's your daddy?!?!?!"
i can see why this would upset you alky. it sucks when your heroes fall from grace. especially in such a disgusting fashion.
LOL.
Harris is polishing off the 25th Amendment for Joe.
oh, she's "polishing" something alright.
LOL.
The Lincoln Project’s Predator
The longtime McCain aide and Kasich strategist has been accused of grooming young men by multiple named accusers
The Lincoln Project’s Stuart Stevens tweeted that they were constructing a database of Trump officials and staff and track where they ended up professionally so they could be “held accountable.”
It infuriated me enough that I responded by tweeting, “Maybe I should start talking about one of the founding members of the Lincoln Project offering jobs to young men in exchange for sex… his wife is probably interested.”
pappy mcstain and john 'son of a mailman' katshit?
LOL.
makes perfect sense.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-lincoln-projects-predator/
The Lincoln Project — which allegedly gets the majority of its funding from small donations — has also faced scrutiny for its use of finances. Federal Election Commission (FEC) data previously revealed that 89.3 percent of total disbursements from November 5, 2019 to March 31, 2020 went to overhead costs. The revelation fueled allegations that the group is cashing in on people who are opposed to Trump.
https://www.inquisitr.com/6443982/lincoln-project-john-weaver-grooming/
someone should make it their life's work to drive all of the lincoln project scumbags to suicide.
Scott, Charlie Sykes and I have been saying the same thing for years now.
Impeach. Indict. Disqualify.The final week of Trump's presidency
Charlie Sykes
5 hr ago59
US President Donald Trump gestures as he speaks during a rally in Dalton, Georgia on January 4, 2021. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP) (Photo by MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)
Welcome to the Countdown Journal: There are now nine days until the Inauguration, and the end of the Trump presidency.
A personal note: I’m feeling a sense of vindication, but also frustration.
What happened last week wasn’t just foreseeable; it was foreseen. Despite the last minute death-bed conversions and historical revisions, there is no new Trump.
This is who he was from the beginning. And, Lord knows, we have been trying to warn our fellow conservatives. If you have been reading The Bulwark or listening to our podcasts you may have been shocked by the carnage, but not by the fact that Trumpism would lead to what we saw Wednesday.
For the last two years, while much of the conservative media wrapped themselves in denial, rationalization, and anti-anti-Trumpism, we stood in the breech and shouted, “What are you thinking?
How may articles have we written about the Mad King, or the dangers of glorifying violence? How many times have we pleaded with Republicans to see the dangers of this man; the menace of his violent rhetoric, or pushed back on the toxic nihilism of the Trumpist GOP?
So forgive me, but it’s hard to take seriously Republicans who now say that they are “shocked, shocked” to find out that they have been truckling to a thoroughly corrupt and dangerous demagogue.
They were warned. Again and again..
Go back 50 years.
William F. Buckley Jr, a man I highly respected broke the Republican party from The John Birch Society and from the segregationist movement.
The Republican party needs to put Trump into the past.
I don't think that you have the intellectual ability as Buckley Jr., very few do! But you might have some impact.
I watched his show on PBS and he almost turned me into a moderate Republican.
When Reagan basically destroyed the union movement I quit voting Republican.
Trickle down economics almost destroyed the middle class.
Trump is the most dangerous person in my lifetime or longer.
The Insurrection was unacceptable.
ah, good ol' charlie 'three wives' sykes and the bul-shit.
still sucking iranian cock for his supper. fucking traitor.
geezus alky, you sure do worship some of the biggest fucking scumbags around.
When Reagan basically destroyed the union movement I quit voting Republican.
Public sector employees shouldn’t be allowed to form unions even FDR knew that
It’s graft
WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court rejected pleas from President Trump and his allies to expedite their pending challenges to November’s election, all but assuring the justices won’t consider the appeals before Joe Biden assumes the presidency Jan. 20.
In unsigned orders issued Monday, the court without comment denied requests to expedite more than half a dozen cases seeking to overturn Mr. Biden’s victories in states including Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. By leaving them on the regular calendar, the Trump appeals won’t be scheduled for consideration until late January at earliest.
The justices are under no obligation to hear the cases, and few legal observers expect that they will.
The court’s action comes after a pro-Trump mob invaded the U.S. Capitol Wednesday in a failed effort to thwart confirmation of Mr. Biden’s victory. After authorities reclaimed the Capitol, Congress reassembled to reject challenges to Biden victories in Arizona and Pennsylvania and then certified the Electoral College vote, 306 for Mr. Biden over Mr. Trump’s 232.
State and federal courts rejected more than 50 suits challenging Mr. Biden’s victories on various grounds. Those included procedural flaws, such as waiting too long before challenging election rules set months or more earlier, and substantive grounds, namely the failure to produce material evidence of fraud or misconduct after millions voted.
The United States Supreme Court stopped the Coup by Donald Trump. It's not signed, meaning that, even the three justices he appointed stood up for the Constitution.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-rejects-trump-plea-to-expedite-election-appeals-11610389006?st=3kn849yxmewpe4o&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
The conservative Wall Street Journal
The court’s action comes after a pro-Trump mob invaded the U.S. Capitol Wednesday in a failed effort to thwart confirmation of Mr. Biden’s victory.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-rejects-trump-plea-to-expedite-election-appeals-11610389006?st=3kn849yxmewpe4o&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
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