Once again... unprecedented doesn't mean what some believe it means?
JUST IN: Anti-Kavanaugh protesters take over the Hart Senate Office Bldg. atrium on Capitol Hill. https://t.co/jCIbxhTKeu pic.twitter.com/DkOgzngMh4
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) October 4, 2018
More than 300 people were taken into custody by police on Capitol Hill after descending on a pair of Senate office buildings Thursday afternoon to protest the confirmation process of Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump's Supreme Court nominee.
The vast majority of the arrests, 293, were a result of protests in the Hart Senate Office Building, where protesters crowded in the atrium. Loud chants could be heard throughout the building, which is structured so the hallways of each floor open up and look out onto the first floor.
Those arrested in Hart were charged with crowding, obstructing or incommoding, according to Capitol Police. Another nine people were arrested on the fourth floor of Dirksen Senate Office Building and charged with unlawful demonstrations.
The demonstrations inspired loud cheers from onlookers on various floors of the building, some of them appearing to be protesters themselves. Hundreds of people could be seen on the first level and in the hallways of several floors throughout the building.
Police were present throughout the building. On the second level where senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee were holding a regular closed-door briefing, several police officers began clearing the hallway of protesters about 3:45 p.m., as various senators exited. They warned protesters that they would be arrested if they did not exit the hallway.
So seriously, what's the difference here? Thousands were in the capital to protest the confirmation of Kavanaugh, and several hundred got into the building and were attempting to prevent the Senate from confirming Kavanaugh.
The only real difference that I can tell is that there was less security protecting the building, and that nobody decided to abandon the building when the protesters entered. If I recall correctly at least one or two actually made it into the actual proceedings and had to be taken out.
Apparently the main difference is whether or not you are a liberal who justified the antics of the anti-Kavanaugh protesters because you believed in the cause, but demand that the same actions as an attempt to block the electoral college vote was treason. Or if you are a conservative and have the integrity to condemn both sets of actions.
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Another example of Lil Schitty pushing a false equivalency and the old injun fuck axiom of they did it first.....You are a fucking amoral losing asshole!!!!!!!
i'm old enough to remember when radical leftists occupied the WI state house.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests
good times...
The 2011 occupation of the state Capitol was the longest in U.S. history.
In February and March of 2011, the Wisconsin Capitol hosted the longest continuous occupation of a major government building in the history of the United States. Gov. Scott Walker had just proposed a bill curtailing the collective bargaining rights of state workers, igniting an intense mobilization. Crowds on the Capitol Square peaked at well over 100,000. Many of them stayed around the clock and slept on the granite floors of the building. The protest took this form, in part, for strategic reasons. Going to the Capitol and staying there was one of the boldest non-violent means for people to show their objection to controversial legislation. After all, that’s where Walker’s office is, where both houses of the Legislature meet, and where the state Supreme Court hears arguments.
https://isthmus.com/news/cover-story/capitol-occupation-walker-protest-house/
Hey Denny...
Bwwwaaaaa!!!!!
The Insurrection yesterday was an attempt to overthrow the United states of America.
You have lost your mind
i'm old enough to remember when radical
You are older than fucking dirt.......BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! I remember being run over by a cop standing in front of my HS at the height of Viet Nam protests and the dump Nixon protests!!!!! A note for Lil Schitty!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
Mick Mulvaney, the U.S. special envoy for Northern Ireland and the former White House chief of staff, has resigned his post, he confirmed, becoming the latest Trump administration official to step down in the aftermath of Wednesday’s riot at the Capitol.
Mr. Mulvaney told CNBC that he had called Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Wednesday night to let him know he was resigning from his diplomatic post. “I can’t stay here. Not after yesterday,” he told CNBC.
Mr. Mulvaney, who wrote a commentary for The Wall Street Journal Opinion page in November titled “If He Loses, Trump Will Concede Gracefully,” said he wouldn’t be surprised if others in the administration also resigned over the next few days.
A number of White House officials resigned Wednesday in the wake of the violence. Among them were Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, and Stephanie Grisham, chief of staff and press secretary to first lady Melania Trump. National security adviser Robert O'Brien was considering resigning but hadn't made up his mind to do so, according to people familiar with the situation.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/biden-trump-electoral-college-certification-congress/card/N8lI03YEhtC3NZucXSR6
GOP Lawmaker Says Trump’s Legacy ‘Wiped Out’
7:46 am EST
Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC), a freshman congresswoman sworn in just days before President Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol, argued Thursday that the deadly siege had “wiped out” his administration’s legacy and any accomplishments he had achieved over the last four years, Politico reports.
Said Mace: “I’m disappointed right now. I think that after last night — and I’m on my 100th hour of being a member of Congress, I’m working on about two hours of sleep — I’m distraught. We’ve got to rebuild our nation, and we’ve got to rebuild our party. This is not who we are. It’s extremely distressing. And it’s saddening. It’s heartbreaking.”
Quote of the Day
6:56 am
“I’ve known Mike Pence forever. I’ve never seen Pence as angry as he was today. I had a long conversation with him. He said, ‘After all the things I’ve done for Trump.'”
— Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK), quoted by Tulsa World, after President Trump directed his disdain toward Pence for refusing to interfere in the electoral vote count.
BTW.....Lil Schitty and rat hole.....TRUMP LOVES YOU!!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
Mulvaney Quits Post In Protest
8:08 am
Mick Mulvaney, President Trump’s former chief of staff and current special envoy to Northern Ireland, told CNBC that he’s resigning from his diplomatic post.
Said Mulvaney: “I called Mike Pompeo last night to let him know I was resigning from that. I can’t do it. I can’t stay.”
He added: “Those who choose to stay, and I have talked with some of them, are choosing to stay because they’re worried the president might put someone worse in.”
Tim Miller: “Sure is strange how many people who wanted Donald Trump to be president for 4 more years all of the sudden think he’s too unhinged for them to stay 2 more weeks.”
Republicans Own This Insurrection
7:57 am
Peter Wehner: “The scene that unfolded at the U.S. Capitol yesterday—an insurrection in all of its ugliness, all of its violence, and all of its kaleidoscopic horror—is the responsibility of Donald Trump. But it doesn’t stop there.
“It is also the responsibility of countless of his aides and supporters, those in right-wing media and Trump’s evangelical backers, “intellectuals” and pseudo-historians, Republicans in Congress and outside it, all of those who have stood with Trump at every moment in his corrupt and corrupting presidency. It is the responsibility of Trump allies who attacked those who warned that Trump was malicious and malignant; who said that he was an institutional arsonist who would do grave damage to the nation; who warned about his race-baiting, his constant provocations, the psychic delight he took in dividing Americans and stoking grievances; and who raised concerns because Trump’s sociopathic tendencies might lead him, and those who followed him, to very dark places.
“President Trump is the architect of this insurrection, but so are his acolytes.”
The Capitol Siege’s QAnon’s Roots
7:54 am
Axios: “A growing segment of the American far right, radicalized via social media and private online groups, views anyone who bucks President Trump’s will as evil. That includes Democrats, the media, celebrities, judges and officeholders — even conservatives, should they cross the president.
“A great many Trump supporters spent recent weeks on heavily pro-Trump platforms like TheDonald.win and Parler openly discussing coming to Washington on Jan. 6 to launch an attack on the government.
“Often the idea was discussed in vague or winking terms; other times, users explicitly called for elected officials to be abducted and executed.”
Trump, Alone
7:51 am
“President Trump enjoys the fervent support of tens of millions of Americans. But his closest friends and paid White House officials — many of the Trumpiest Trumpers we know — are avoiding him like the plague,” Axios reports.
“The president’s final days in office will be lonely ones. Some stalwart aides and confidants — after years of enduring the crazy and trying to modulate the chaos — have given up trying to communicate with him, considering him mentally unreachable.”
Republicans Enabled Trump, Then Some Strangled Him
7:49 am
Jim VandeHei: “There are no heroes here — courage brimmed only at the precipice. But a few people who watched the system breach, in the end, did not allow it to break. Only in time will we learn the reward or consequences of their actions.”
You have lost your mind
in other words...
Roger has no actual argument to make, so he will just make personal attacks. Par for the course lately.
I warned you mothrfucker 5 years ago and I had TDS. Your a cultist Scott, the type of person who doesn't care about anyone else but yourself.
That's why you support the most dangerous President in history.
The demonstrators occupied our Congressional Building, their intent was to stop counting ballots and declaring the next President of the United.
Nations around the world are appalled. But Russia is as happy as you!
This looked like Venezuela.
Alexander Hamilton Warned of the Trump Era
9:20 am
Writing in 1792, Alexander Hamilton described the kind of person who could destroy the republic:
When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the non sense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”
Well, except for the “military habits” reference.
The Culmination of Four Years of American Carnage
9:16 am
First Read: “The unprecedented political insurrection, the violence and the vandalism at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday was no spontaneous accident.
“It was the culmination of the last four years, which started with Donald Trump’s words of ‘American carnage’ at his inaugural address.
“It carried over to Charlottesville (after which Trump said he condemned ‘many sides’), to last September’s first presidential debate (‘Proud Boys, stand back and stand by’), to Trump’s inability to denounce QAnon (‘I know nothing about them’), and then finally to Trump’s words to his supporters before they stormed the Capitol.”
The Right’s New Conspiracy Theory
9:13 am
Steve Benen writes about an email that you can expect “from your weird relatives” blaming the left for the Capitol riot:
“Lou Dobbs and Rep. Mo Brooks, discussed the possibility of antifa instigators’ infiltrating the pro-Trump mob. And former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin made the same claim, telling Fox News host Martha MacCallum that it was unclear who was instigating the riots. ‘A lot of it is the antifa folks,’ Palin said, citing “pictures” she had seen. Laura Ingraham, one of the channel’s primetime hosts, spent much of the hour of her show suggesting without evidence that the Trump protesters had been infiltrated by antifa.”
Republicans Must Explain Why They Enabled Trump
8:16 am
GOP strategist Frank Luntz told CNBC that Republicans in Congress must offer explanations for why they did not more forcefully condemn President Trump’s false election claims prior to the riot at the U.S. Capitol.
Said Luntz: “I think that the Republicans have a lot to do now to repair this breach. They have a lot to do to explain why they did not stand up to the president before this, why these protests were allowed to get out of control like this.”
The vice President Pence and the cabinet members have met to discuss the 25th amendment now.
If this happened under a Democratic administration, you would be shouting from the rafters #impeachment #25thamendment
Opening the Doors for the Mob
10:11 am
Joe Scarborough slammed the U.S. Capitol police live on MSNBC: “You opened the fucking doors for em!”
Bonus Quote of the Day
10:05 am
“The Republican Party has been put in a state of civil war.”
— GOP strategist Karl Rove, on Fox News.
Georgia Republicans Propose Restricting Absentee Ballots
10:00 am
“Voting was never easier in Georgia than in November’s presidential election. But it might not last,” the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.
“Republican legislators plan to crack down on voting access after record turnout helped Democrat Joe Biden win Georgia, flipping the state after 24 years of GOP presidential wins.
“They blame absentee ballots, used by 1.3 million Georgians who voted from home during the coronavirus pandemic. In all, 5 million people voted in the general election.”
TRYING TO SUPPRESS BLACK VOTES WILL JUST MAKE BLACKS MORE DETERMINED TO VOTE.
Bombs Were Planted at RNC and DNC Offices
9:55 am
Federal law enforcement officials say the devices found near the RNC and DNC headquarters on Wednesday were actual explosive devices, not phonies, Fox News reports.
More Republicans Approve of Storming the Capitol
9:50 am
A new YouGov poll found that 45% of Republican voters approved of the storming of the U.S. Capitol, while 43% opposed it.
Just 27% of Republicans think this action should be considered a threat to democracy, with 68% saying otherwise.
The ‘Oh Fuck’ Moment Is Here for Trump’s Enablers
9:37 am
Rick Wilson: “As an anthropologist of the shittiest human being on the planet, a scholar of all Trump’s pathologies, a plumber in the vast deeps of his fuckwit necromancy, I should be past shock, but even I was appalled by not only the order to march on the Capitol spitting from his blubbery lips but by the organized teams of rioters who then invaded the House and Senate.”
Giuliani Condemns Violence He Helped Incite
9:34 am
Rudy Giuliani called the violence by pro-Trump mobs “shameful” on Thursday morning, just 18 hours after calling for “trial by combat” at a Trump rally that preceded the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
Trump Told Everyone What Would Happen
10:18 am
President Trump, on December 19th on Twitter: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!”
President Trump, on December 19th on Twitter: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!
Insurrection is treason and it carries a death penalty.
He's the Benedict Arnold of this generation he should die in prison
"Those who choose to continue to support his dangerous gambit by objecting to the results of a legitimate, democratic election will forever be seen as being complicit in an unprecedented attack against our democracy."
Mitt Romney, the former Presidential candidate for the Republican party, not the ScottlovesTrump party.
The Day Trump Broke the GOP
6:38 am
“Republicans started the day losing the Senate. They ended it with President Donald Trump’s supporters LOSING THEIR MINDS,” Politico reports.
“Jan. 6, 2021 might have been remembered for an intraparty battle over whether to certify Joe Biden’s election win or who to blame for the Georgia defeats. But instead it will go down as the day that broke the Republican Party as we know it and began the GOP’s ultimate reckoning with Trumpism.
“It literally took a riot of Trump supporters in the Capitol for many Republicans to finally confront the defeated president — a moment of bedlam that put those GOP lawmakers’ own lives at risk. After his supporters stormed into the Capitol, vandalized the building and fought with police officers, several typically strong allies turned on Trump.”
Trump Loyalty Disintegrates
6:36 am
“President Trump was ensconced in the White House residence Wednesday night, raging about perceived betrayals, as an array of top aides weighed resigning and some senior administration officials began conversations about invoking the 25th Amendment — an extraordinary measure that would remove the president before Trump’s term expires on Jan. 20,” the Washington Post reports.
Politico: “What began as a rally intended to support Trump became a permanent and irreversible stain on his presidency Wednesday afternoon, as fans of the outgoing president stormed the U.S. Capitol — shattering windows, prompting evacuations and injuring law enforcement officials in the process — to temporarily halt the certification of his opponent’s 2020 victory.”
Remember These Names
6:42 am
The New York Times lists the lawmakers who objected to certifying Joe Biden’s victory.
Congress Confirms Biden’s Election
6:29 am
“Congress certified the election of Joe Biden early Thursday, hours after a mob of loyalists urged on by President Trump stormed and occupied the Capitol, disrupting the final electoral count in a shocking display of violence that shook the core of American democracy,” the New York Times reports.
“Mr. Trump, who spent months stoking the anger of his supporters with false claims that the election was stolen and refused to condemn the violent protests on Wednesday, said early Thursday that there would be an orderly presidential transition this month.”
Said Trump: “Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th.”
Gaetz Booed On House Floor
6:27 am
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) was booed on the House floor on Wednesday night when he said “some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters — they were masquerading as Trump supporters,” CBS News reports.
Roger has no actual argument to make,
AND YOU DO YOU FUCKING FRAUD LIL SCHITTY THE AMORAL NON THINKING TRUMP SUCKER!!!!!!!!!
— they were masquerading as Trump supporters,” CBS News reports.
BWAAAAAAA!!!! MUST BE A SUBSCRIBER TO NO BALLZ TWITTER FEED!!!!!!!! Asshole and an embarrassment to the US!!!!
Fatty, you are using more then your share.
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There’s No Refuge for Republicans
10:30 am
Ezra Klein: “When the literalists rushed the chamber, Pence, Cruz and Hawley were among those who had to be evacuated, for their own safety. Some of their compatriots, like Senator Kelly Loeffler, rescinded their objections to the election, seemingly shaken by the beast they had unleashed. But there is no real refuge from the movement they fed. Trump’s legions are still out there, and now they are mourning a death and feeling yet more deceived by many of their supposed allies in Washington, who turned on them as soon as they did what they thought they had been asked to do.”
“The problem isn’t those who took Trump at his word from the start. It’s the many, many elected Republicans who took him neither seriously nor literally, but cynically. They have brought this upon themselves — and us.”
Guys, I think Scott has joined the Quan community. It is apparent in this post.
WASHINGTONWASHINGTON (Reuters) -A handful of U.S. congressional Republicans turned on President Donald Trump on Wednesday, after a crowd of his supporters stormed the Capitol building in a bid to help him overturn his defeat in the November election.
"There is no question that the president formed the mob, the President incited the mob, the President addressed the mob. He lit the flame," House of Representatives Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney tweeted.
The daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney described the assault as an attempt to prevent Congress from carrying out its constitutional duty to review the results of the 2020 election.
Representative Mike Gallagher, a Republican who supports Trump, had a more colorful description of the assault. "We are witnessing absolute banana republic crap in the United States Capitol right now. @realDonaldTrump, you need to call this off," he posted on Twitter as demonstrators broke windows to gain entry to the U.S. Capitol.
Representative James French Hill, who has voted with Trump more than 95% of the time, told CNBC: "The president bears part of the responsibility for the heated rhetoric."
Trump supporters burst into the halls of Congress as Trump's Republican allies aired their objections to the Nov. 3 presidential election won by President-elect Joe Biden.
Biden, who takes office on Jan. 20, called it "an insurrection" for demonstrators to storm the Capitol, smash windows, occupy offices, invade the halls of Congress and threaten the safety of duly elected officials.
"I could not agree more with President-elect Biden's statement to the nation," Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, a staunch Trump ally, said in a statement on Twitter that did not mention Trump.
Without naming Trump, Republican former President George W. Bush said in a statement: "I am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and by the lack of respect shown today for our institutions, our traditions, and our law enforcement."
Your children will look back upon your behavior during this period of time with appall.
Guys, did you notice how many black faces were among those who stormed the building?
No? I didn't either.
Could these be some of those white supremacists and KKKers and skinheads and proudboys and rogue militants the GOP has been courting and encouraging ever since Trump became their leader?
Of course there are good people on both sides. Trump said so.
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Question, Alky how goes your purchase of your Audi A8 ($75,000).
correction:
ever since Trump became their master.
Remember soars? You used to support Bush all the time but you don't now
Without naming Trump, Republican former President George W. Bush said in a statement: "I am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and by the lack of respect shown today for our institutions, our traditions, and our law enforcement."
You are the only person who has been trying to draw an equivalent comparison.
In Roger's pure fantasy delusional mind he is attempting to live CHT life, a hot model wife, a sweet home, great real income and driving the cars he wants.
Roger has "A Room".
Even Trump's little lapdog Lindsey Graham is now snarling at what he unleashed, and is actually agreeing with Biden.
Scott, wouldn't you begin to start feeling better if you admitted that Biden is the man for this hour, and Trump is one of the worst things that has ever happened to this nation?
in other words...
Roger has no actual argument to make, so he will just make personal attacks. Par for the course lately.
he never does. on a related note, i've spoken to several people, both friends and co-workers, who were there, and they assured me that antifa had a presence and made a large contribution to the chaos. the alky would call this russia, russia, russia!...
the rest of us know that those scumbags were more than happy to execute a false flag operation. were they the whole problem? no. a major contributor? oh yeah.
The Worst President In History
10:51 am
John Avlon: “There is now no question that Donald Trump will go down as the worst president in American history.”
“This was an attempted coup, encouraged by the President… designed to stop the peaceful transfer of power.”
Facebook Bans Trump for Remainder of His Term
10:56 am
Facebook will block President Trump from posting on its platform for the remainder of his term, CNBC reports.
hey alky, is this your gig for the day? plagiarizing the outrage of others?
newsflash sport, i have zero fucks to give what W or any other pol thinks about what happened yesterday. in fact, they're part of the fucking problem.
Bill Barr Says Trump Betrayed His Office
10:59 am
Former Attorney General William Barr says President Trump’s conduct as a violent mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol was a “betrayal of his office and supporters,” the AP reports.
Barr said that “orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable.”
The demonstrators occupied our Congressional Building, their intent was to stop counting ballots and declaring the next President of the United.
Which was the exact intent of those protesters who stormed the Senate buildings in hopes of stopping the Kavanaugh confirmation.
But somehow... that is all different, huh?
rat thinks the fact that among the masses were some who were antifa fanatics or worse does not negate the fact that the others gladly went among with them.
And along with the "scumbags" of the skinheads and proudboys and arian nation and kkk and... and... and... other things that slime out from under rocks.
Among the flags carried were some Confederate ones as well as American ones
---but the prevailing blue flag proclaimed TRUMP.
SCOTT: But somehow... that is all different, huh?
JAMES: Scott, I'm sure that in your diseased mind they are exactly equivalent.
But for you and others who believe that -- no wonder the GOP is doomed for the future.
And Roger is wrong again
On the evening of November 7, 1983, a call came into the U.S. Capitol switchboard. “Listen carefully, I’m only going to tell you this one time,” the caller said. “There is a bomb in the Capitol building. It will go off in five minutes. Evacuate the building.” Then the caller hung up.
At 10:58 p.m., a blast went off on the second floor of the structure’s north wing. The explosion blew doors off their hinges, shattered chandeliers and sent a shower of pulverized glass, brick and plaster into the Republican cloakroom. The shock wave from the explosion sounded like a sonic boom. A jogger outside on the Capitol grounds heard the blast: “It was loud enough to make my ears hurt. It kept echoing and echoing—boom, boom.” According to one estimate, the bomb caused $1 million in damage.
Later, National Public Radio received a message from a group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit: “Tonight we bombed the U.S. Capitol.” Nobody was killed or injured in the attack, but the ARU made clear that it had contemplated lethal action: “We purposely aimed our attack at the institutions of imperialist rule rather than at individual members of the ruling class and government. We did not choose to kill any of them at this time. But their lives are not sacred and their hands are stained with the blood of millions.”
Gaetz Booed On House Floor
6:27 am
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) was booed on the House floor on Wednesday night when he said “some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters — they were masquerading as Trump supporters,” CBS News reports.
________
Not Trump supporters? With all those many, many blue TRUMP flags being waved...?
2020 "Mostly Peaceful Protestors"
2021 "Rioters, Terrorist and worse"
from Scott's lead article to this thread:
____
SCOTT (aka Ch"truth"):
"So seriously, what's the difference here? Thousands were in the capital to protest the confirmation of Kavanaugh, and several hundred got into the building and were attempting to prevent the Senate from confirming Kavanaugh."
________
Well, I don't remember any of them breaking windows or breaking through doors or chasing police or having armaments or laying bombs or...or...or...
Aide Says Trump Was a ‘Monster’ During Capitol Siege
11:22 am
President Trump privately defended his supporters as they stormed the Capitol on Wednesday and contradicted aides by ad-libbing parts of the recorded speech in which he told rioters to go home, the Washington Post reports.
Said one official:
“He didn’t want to condemn his people… He was a total monster today.”
Another said the situation was “insane” and “beyond the pale.”
Time for an intervention?
National Security Team Urged Not to Resign
11:26 am
In the last 24 hours, Secretary Mike Pompeo, Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe and National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien have all received calls from concerned former senior national security officials and leaders of major national security firms urging them not to resign, CNN reports.
Washington Post:
“The message was direct, per a senior administration official:
Foreign actors want to take advantage of crisis moments like these. Don’t give them an opening by creating a continuity of government vacuum in the national security space.”
Yes much different.
The vice President and the speaker Nancy Pelosi and all of the senators and congressional leaders were under the threat of death from armed protesters.
The meeting on the Kavanaug was not directly attached nor was it interrupted.
They did not destroy property or break open doors and windows.
Nor did they destroy property. Or actually sit on the chair used by the Speaker of the house of Representatives for a photo shoot.
You equivalently attempt is fucking stupid. You're acting like kputz
Said one official:
Another said
BWAAAAAAAAAAPAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Schumer Calls for Trump’s Removal from Office
11:37 am
Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer called for President Trump to be immediately removed from office, saying the 25th amendment should be invoked.
Said Schumer:
“If the Vice President and the Cabinet refuse to stand up, Congress should reconvene to impeach the president.”
They were not Antifa as Scott and balls and the racist rodent believe.
WASHINGTON -- The woman shot and killed inside the U.S. Capitol after supporters of President Donald Trump stormed the building was identified as Ashli Babbitt, a 35-year-old Air Force veteran from San Diego, according to the Washington Post.
Babbitt was shot by U.S. Capitol Police earlier Wednesday as a mob of Trump supporters tried to break through a barricaded door in the Capitol where police were armed on the other side.
She was hospitalized with a gunshot wound and later died.
Family members say Babbitt was a veteran who served 14 years in the Air Force.
Her social media posts showed she was a staunch Trump supporter and was in Washington D.C. taking part during the Trump event.
"Caliphate4vrJanuary 7, 2021 at 10:14 AM
And Roger is wrong again"
Everyday at least once Roger shits the bed in "His Room" and here.
Well, I don't remember any of them breaking windows or breaking through doors or chasing police or having armaments or laying bombs or...or...or...
Well first of all... thanks for attempting to provide an answer rather than just an attack.
But the facts remain that nearly 300 people were arrested during the Kavanaugh hearings. You should have recalled the actual Senate Chambers having to be secured while people outside attempted to break in.
There was certainly "less" law enforcement and there was not the same attempt to "keep the Kavanaugh protesters out" as there was to keep the protesters out yesterday. So that leads to less physicality between the two groups.
The issue with the two apparent "home made bombs" are not 100% known to be part of the same issue. As one of the supposed "bombs" was found at the RNC headquarters, not at the scene in question. I have not gotten much "verification" from reliable sources on either "home made bomb" that was reported.
I've seen a lot of pictures from inside the building of a lot of protesters and the only guns I saw were on law enforcement and the only person shot was a 14 year Veteran with four tours of duty (not exactly a criminal).
Again, Reverend...
I don't condone these actions and I wish that they have never happened. But the facts remain that this was not the first time that the Congressional offices were stormed by protesters who were there to "prevent" Congress from doing their jobs.
Moreover, these are not the first "Federal buildings" that have been attacked, as that has been happening in Seattle, Portland, and many other places... where Federal buildings were attacked by actual ARMED protesters with guns, lasers, and Molotov cocktails (which simply having possession of is a Federal felony).
I have seen the videos of breaking doors and windows. You don't watch the news coverage because you don't want to see something you don't believe.
I can provide you YouTube videos showing everything you just denied !
But you are arguing that the two are equivalent?
Trump Pulls Chad Wolf’s Nomination
11:43 am
The White House announced that President Trump has withdrawn Chad Wolf’s nomination to be the permanent Homeland Security secretary, hours after Wolf urged the president to denounce yesterday’s violence, the Los Angeles Times reports.
This is the first time since 1814, when the British army occupied the White House and the congressional buildings.
Your equivalent augmented is fucking stupid
Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said Thursday the social media giant is banning President Trump indefinitely, marking a dramatic escalation between Silicon Valley and the White House after Trump weaponized the web to help stoke a riot at the U.S. Capitol.
“We believe the risks of allowing the President to continue to use our service during this period are simply too great,” Zuckerberg wrote. "Therefore, we are extending the block we have placed on his Facebook and Instagram accounts indefinitely and for at least the next two weeks until the peaceful transition of power is complete.”
"Your equivalent augmented is fucking stupid" Alky
You don't understand so you loss your temper, again.
Yes. Like several other people who posted here, have left Thecoldheartedtruth because he has lost his mind about The Orange Monster.
Equivalent is fucking wrong again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again!
NEWSWEEK
FBI, Homeland Security, White House Advisers Foresaw Possible
Trouble and Looked the Other Way
They knew it could happen. They feared that Donald Trump would pull a "Samson," bringing down the whole house on top of him in the two weeks before he left the White House. Officials from the FBI, the Secret Service, Homeland Security, the District of Columbia government, the Pentagon, the National Guard, and the Joint Task Force–National Capital Region who spoke to Newsweek last weekend on condition of anonymity, all talked about the potential for protesters and militias and paramilitary goons—egged on by the president—to storm Capitol Hill and even the Capitol building itself.
A half-dozen sources spoke openly about this very scenario: that the mob would take over the "People's House" and that somehow the system would break down. They speculated that this could occur because of the president's treasonous behavior, because of leadership deficiencies in the federal government and Congress, because of the extreme partisanship of the moment, and because everyone was looking the wrong way.
The blame was spread around, with the FBI dismissing the Department of Homeland Security as a bunch of amateurs and thugs; the military shaking their heads about President Trump and an absent White House leadership; Homeland Security department members mocking the District of Columbia's mayor, Attorney General, and police; and everyone making clear that "the problem" was someone else's.
It was clear that the very law enforcement and security people who in theory were responsible for maintaining order in our capital city weren't ready, weren't well led, weren't organized properly, and weren't impartial.
How did we get here? There are multiple causes for this historic failure.
The patchwork quilt of roles and responsibilities created post-9/11, and the immense public illiteracy regarding all things national security, have weakened America.
Many people in official Washington had tolerated and even humored President Trump's sedition and incitement to riot. FBI sources said the White House wasn't ordering any new security measures, wasn't ordering any additional resources, and wasn't coordinating any extension of the so-called inaugural "National Security Special Event" timeline to include this week (it officially covers January 15-21). It wasn't doing those things, the sources said, because presidential aides were afraid that any movement might provoke Donald Trump to do something even worse than whatever he was already planning.
Several of the sources said the U.S. Capitol Police—with a strength of more than 2,000 law enforcement officers—might not act, or might be intentionally stood down, because many Congressional Republican leaders wanted the mob to amplify their shrinking voices that the election was illegitimate. There has been no confirmation of this claim. But it's notable that it took less than 15 minutes for the mob to gain entrance to the Capitol Building--and then virtually nothing was done to eject them.
Sources from other departments said the Department of Homeland Security—which had declined to use its mammoth army of law enforcement officers to suppress protests in Portland and other cities, ostensibly because they were needed in DC to protect government buildings—was making itself virtually absent from the scene for the transition. The Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf is actually in the Middle East, evidently not thinking that the threat was severe enough for him to be in Washington.
The DHS has been indiscriminate in using its law enforcement arms, now the largest in the federal government—Secret Service agents, ICE, Customs and Border Protection, Homeland Security Investigations, Federal Air Marshals and even the Federal Protective Service—to intervene over the past year when protests didn't involve pro-Trump, right wing mobs. The Capitol Police did come out in force when Black Lives Matter and Antifa approached Capitol Hill last summer.
FBI sources told Newsweek that the Bureau was closely watching the various protestors converging on the city, that the Department of Justice was taking the law enforcement lead no matter what other agencies of the government were doing, and that the Bureau had a good sense of the protestors, the size of the crowd, the leaders, and the dangers. The intelligence apparently did not anticipate what the news media was openly speculating about and what the president and his supporters were publicly tweeting.
The District of Columbia government was the only prepared and ready force on Wednesday. Mayor Muriel Bowser activated 340 District National Guardsmen and women before Wednesday. In keeping with a desire not to use soldiers to enforce the law, she kept them unarmed and assigned them to traffic control and other duties to relieve more police officers of the Metropolitan Police Department—3,800 strong, the sixth largest municipal police department in the nation—to enforce the laws.
The riots—and the District's response—underscored the argument for making D.C. a state, so that the mayor wouldn't have to ask permission of the Secretary of the Army to activate the DC Guard.
And finally there's the Pentagon. Donald Trump's walk into Lafayette Park last June, accompanied by a gaggle of federal, National Guard and local police forces, jolted the U.S. military. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley, in uniform, joined the president's entourage, giving the impression that the uniformed military supported Trump and the forces surrounding him. Gen. Milley was pummeled for his "loss of situational awareness," for being there. He publicly apologized.
The Lafayette Park incident and Milley's apology shifted Pentagon culture; ranking officers firmly rejected talk of martial law and openly declared that the U.S. armed forces had no role to play in the election or the transition. Now the Pentagon is being dragged in anyhow, in the form of the National Guard: the last non-partisan, honorable and duty-bound institution in Washington.
But the political structure has failed spectacularly, creating and living with a federal government so faulty that it gives the impression "the military" is the only institution that can be trusted, that it is the only one that can and will always save the day. The Congressional leadership cheered when they heard that the National Guard was on the way to the Capitol today.
To restore the rule of law and ensure accountability for protecting America's democracy, the post-Trump reforms must be as dramatic as the ones that followed 9/11. "The military is the only answer" is not just a false belief: it also weakens the civil institutions on which our nation depends.
Roger Amick said...
They were not Antifa as Scott and balls and the racist rodent believe.
well alky, i'm up to 5 people so far that i've talked to who were there, and to a man they all witnessed antifa up close and personal. busloads, in fact. not a handful of rogue assholes.
so your official plagiarized account curries no favor with me.
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But you are arguing that the two are equivalent?
I am arguing that the demands that this was some kind of once in a lifetime aberration of character for US citizens is misguided and completely based on bias and lack of acceptance of other realities.
What I have heard (from many people who like to argue with me) is that "this" was different than Antifa attacks on Federal building because it happened in D.C. and that it was specifically designed to "prevent Congress" from doing something that these protesters didn't want them to do (certify the election results).
This is being called a "coup" because of the "INTENTIONS" of the crowd was to stop something from happening. Obviously they could only delay it from happening. Nobody "really" believed that they could stop it by storming a Congressional building.
But those "intentions" are no different than the "intentions" of the Kavanaugh protesters who stormed the building for the EXACT SAME PURPOSE of preventing the Senate Confirmation hearing from being completed. Obviously they had to know that they would not succeed as well.
There was NOTHING that happened yesterday that comes anywhere near close (in terms of violence, people coming armed and ready for a fight, etc) of what we saw over the Summer in Portland, Seattle and other places were ICE faculties, Federal buildings were attacked.
I think what you have to do, Reverend... is look inside yourself and ask yourself a simple question. Is there something inside of "YOU" that simply believes inherently that these "Trump supporters" are more dangerous and violent than the "Kavanaugh protesters" were, regardless of action. Do you view people running down the halls differently because of who they were and what they were protesting... rather than what they were actually doing?
Because it seems to me that these protesters were way less dangerous and way less violent than the average Antifa riot that happened more times that we can count over the past several months. But they are being treated as if they were way "more" dangerous and violent...
The proof is in the pudding? How many people (other than the actual Trump protesters) were injured? How many police officers were blinded? How many were carted off in ambulances? How many innocent bystanders were attacked by the crowd?
In a time when we declare that an entire City block can be basically burned to the ground, and it is "mostly peaceful" - how was this objectively "worse".
Because it seems like you are attempting to straddle two realities here. You want to compare it as worse than Antifa attacks because it happened in D.C. and it attempted to disrupt Government business. But you also want to compare it as worse than the last time there was people storming the building in an attempt to disrupt Government business over differences without much distinction.
Bill Barr.
Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable. The President's conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.
William Barr dares to disagree with Scott Johnson! The President betrayed you!
I completely understand why so many people who used to come here and discuss issues in a reality universe, but you live in an alternate reality universe.
I'm seriously considering telling you to go to hell
So Scott equates the violent Trump-encouraged takeover of our nation's Capitol Building with other violent actions in our nation.
Bill Barr.
Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable. The President's conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.
He's not a RINO
Trump Economic Adviser Resigns
12:11 pm
Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers Tyler Goodspeed told the New York Times: “The events of yesterday made my position no longer tenable.”
12:08
At politicalwire.com:
Before the Mob Took the U.S. Capitol
There’s a video of Donald Trump and his family just before the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol yesterday.
He lives in an alternate reality universe.
Shopify Takes Down Trump Online Stores
12:18 pm
Online stores run by the Trump Organization and Trump campaign were taken offline on Thursday by Shopify, an e-commerce software provider, in response to Wednesday’s riot at the U.S. Capitol, the Wall Street Journal reports.
The company said President Trump violated the company’s policy, which prohibits retailers on the platform from promoting or supporting organizations or people that promote violence.
well alky, i'm up to 5 people so far that i've talked to who were there, and to a man they all witnessed antifa up close and personal. busloads, in fact. not a handful of rogue assholes.
Well it appears to be mostly Trump supporters who made their way into the building. The woman who was shot was obviously a Trump supporter who broke a window to get in.
But there are also videos of some Protesters who were physically attempting to stop people from breaking in (which was being labeled a antifa being the ones attempting to break in).
And there is also video and facial recognition software that suggests that there were multiple people involved in the actual storming of the building that have also been seen in Antifa and BLM riots. Whether these are Antifa people disguising themselves, or just instigators who want to be part of every protest and riot... who knows.
Scott, seriously rethink how you feel about the President.
Even loyalists and abandoning the ship USS Trump.
Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers Tyler Goodspeed told the New York Times: “The events of yesterday made my position no longer tenable.”
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I completely understand why so many people who used to come here and discuss issues in a reality universe, but you live in an alternate reality universe.
I'm seriously considering telling you to go to hell
so why do you stay, alky?
i mean, other than the fact that this blog IS YOUR FUCKING LIFE, that is.
House Democrats Draft Articles of Impeachment
12:23 pm
Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI), Rep. Jaime Raskin (D-MD) and Rep. Ted Liu (D-CA) are circulating Articles of Impeachment to remove President Trump from office following yesterday’s attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Scott, how many black faces did you see among the insurrectionists who stormed our Capitol Building?
William Barr dares to disagree with Scott Johnson!
Why do you insist on lying Roger?
I have not defended either the protests and I specifically stated earlier (many times) that the President's rhetoric is at least partially responsible for this. I neither defend the rioting or the President.
The difference... once again...
Is that I am being personally attacked for pointing out that what happened yesterday has been happening all over the country (and way worse in many cases) for some time. Pointing out that this was not an "unprecedented act" as much as people claim it is.
So Roger...
Can you stop lying?
Or are you just emotionally out of control... again
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wbaltv.com/amp/article/there-is-no-evidence-that-suggests-antifa-was-a-part-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/35145385
Several posts, particularly on the right-leaning social media platform Parler, shared images that posters claimed as evidence antifa demonstrators were behind the riot. The images did not, however, show any antifa involvement, and in many instances suggested ties to far-right extremist groups like the Proud Boys, or conspiracy movements like QAnon.
President Donald Trump, in a now-deleted video to his supporters, even acknowledged the group as his supporters, saying "we love you" and repeating a baseless claim the election was stolen from them. The riot began after Trump, speaking at a rally, directed the crowd to go to the Capitol.
Related video: Trump urges Capitol protesters to 'go home now'
One frequent act of misinformation being spread is to show a picture of a member of the mob of protesters side by side with a picture of the same person at a Black Lives Matter rally or among a group of antifa members. However these images often leave out context as to whether the person in question was at these rallies as an ally or a counter-protester to groups like BLM.
A frequently employed example being the well-recognized man wearing a horned headdress who was a part of the riot. A picture of him attending a BLM protest is often shared suggesting he is secretly an antifa supporter, but while at the BLM protest, he held a counter-protest sign saying "Q SENT ME." The sign is often cropped out.
On Twitter, there were more than 1,250 posts from accounts related to the QAnon conspiracy theory about Wednesday's protests containing terms of violence since Jan. 1. The most basic QAnon belief casts President Trump as the hero in a fight against the "deep state" and a sinister cabal of Democratic politicians and celebrities who abuse children.
One post from a QAnon-related account retweeted a post with a baseless conspiracy theory that Democrats, Black Lives Matter activists, and Antifa protestors were planning to kill Trump supporters and advocated for whoever noticed these individuals to get "rid of them."
Despite the lack of evidence, U.S. Congressmen, Louie Gohmert, R-TX, and Mo Brooks, R-AL, spread this conspiracy theory on Twitter. Later Wednesday night, Congressman Matt Goetz, R-FL, also pushed these false claims while speaking to the House.
Lin Wood, a pro-Trump attorney who is involved with the QAnon movement, sent several viral tweets that falsely claimed that members of antifa were inside the Capitol. A commonly shared image he posted features a bearded man wearing a hoodie seen among the mob inside the Capitol posted with another photo of supposedly the same person, the second photo having come from “PhillyAntifa.org,” suggesting he is actually antifa.
“Indisputable photographic evidence that antifa violently broke into Congress today to inflict harm & do damage,” Wood said on Twitter. “NOT @realDonaldTrump supporters.”
But the page on phillyantifa.org is not of him being involved with the group, but of the group accusing him to be a member of a neo-Nazi group.
Scott, how many black faces did you see among the insurrectionists who stormed our Capitol Building?
About the same amount as we saw storm the congressional buildings during the Kavanaugh hearings.
Do you have a point, other than to play the race card when all else fails?
Well it appears to be mostly Trump supporters who made their way into the building. The woman who was shot was obviously a Trump supporter who broke a window to get in.
i just got off the phone with a co-worker who took one of the buses chartered by Liz Joy (she lost her bid for NY-21). he was amazed at the thousands of asians who were there. mostly chinese. he spoke to several, and to a person they were there not only as Trump supporters, but as folks with a deep seated hatred and fear of the CCP, many of them having survived liberal darling Mao and his "Great Leap Forward."
they said the similarities are chilling.
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The event yesterday was unprecedented except during the British American war on 1812,when they occupied the Capital building and the White House.
You believe that Democrats are child molesters and cannibals like QAnon-
Good bye forever
QAnon! SQUAWK!
1812! SQUAWK!
Bill Barr! SQUAWK!
good job alky.
this is the sum total of your contribution around here today. ALL OF IT plagiarized.
You believe that Democrats are child molesters and cannibals like QAnon-
Once again... a blatant lie. I am fucking married to a Democrat.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Good bye forever
what's this? the 8th or 9th time the alky has pulled his "Good bye cruel world..." routine around here?
let's start a pool. anyone think the alky makes it through the weekend before he comes back?
let's start a pool. anyone think the alky makes it through the weekend before he comes back?
Roger used to provide meaningful dialogue. At least some of the time.
But now it's all lies, personal attacks, calling me an asshole, and tossing around comments that under normal circumstances would be seen as hyperbole (but you can never be sure with Roger).
. I am fucking married to a Democrat.
Yep, when we voted Tuesday, she looked at me and said, “We’re just canceling each other out.”
"let's start a pool. anyone think the alky makes it through the weekend before he comes back?"
Well, he will post under different Id's.
He does that when he looses his temper.
What a racist .
"Scott, how many black faces did you see among the insurrectionists who stormed our Capitol Building?"
Ugly Jane, even for you.
It's not playing the race card to ask why so many of the insurrectionists were white. It's stating a fact.
Extra Bonus Quote of the Day
1:00 pm
“I once said the party of Lincoln and Reagan is off taking a nap. The nap has become a nightmare for our nation. The GOP must awaken. The invasion of our Capitol by a mob, incited by lies from some entrusted with power, is a disgrace to all who sacrificed to build our Republic.”
— Former Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), on Twitter.
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Is Boehner playing the race card? I mean, Lincoln freed slaves. Where were the descendants of those slaves yesterday at the Capitol?
Answer: Among the democratically elected representatives of our nation taking refuge in the basements.
You changed your post, why.
You went from "asking" to "fact".
So you defeated yourself.
Trump Didn’t Check In On Pence
1:20 pm
“President Trump and top White House officials did little to check in on Vice President Mike Pence while he and members of his family were inside the US Capitol when Trump-backed rioters stormed the halls of Congress on Wednesday,” CNN reports.
“Pence was joined by his wife Karen Pence and his daughter Charlotte for the ceremonial counting of the electoral votes in Congress Wednesday. Several of the violent Trump supporters who were rampaging the US Capitol were heard screaming ‘where’s Mike Pence,’ frightening the vice president and his family.”
“Yet, the President and his top aides barely lifted a finger to check in on Pence to make sure he and his family were unharmed.”
Cowards
"Hoyer announces no sessions of the House until after the inauguration."
25th Amenment will be used, I can assure you it will be.
To force the removal of Biden.
The Trump Mob that terrorized the US Capitol cannot call themselves Americans. They are domestic terrorists. The Black Lives Movement and Antifa are not domestic terrorists Scott!
Trump’s Mob cannot attack the US Capitol, and call themselves Americans.
Trump’s Mob cannot vandalize the US Capitol, and call themselves Americans.
Trump’s Mob cannot endanger the lives of the US Capitol staff, the US Senate Members, the US House Members, and the Congressional Staff Members, and call themselves Americans.
Trump’s Mob cannot lower the American Flag at the US Capitol, and replace it with a Trump flag, and call themselves Americans.
Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr. cannot incite violence against American Democracy and call themselves Americans. They are a disgrace to America. They incited a Domestic Terrorist attack against America.
With 13 days left in office, Trump and his terrorist organization have not yet reached the depth of the pearl they are prepared to put America in.
Unless Vice President Pence doesn't find a way to control Trump, he will do something worse. He's not sane!
Scott,
"There is no doubt in my mind that if those were Black Lives Matter protesters yesterday breaking into the Capitol Building, there would be dozens and dozens of people dead today,"
It's not comparative situation.
FBI needs help identifying these Trump terrorists:
FBIWFO is seeking the public's assistance in identifying those who made unlawful entry into U.S. Capitol Building on Jan. 6.
If you witnessed unlawful violent actions contact the #FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI or submit photos/videos at http://fbi.gov/USCapitol.
https://fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/violence-at-the-united-states-capitol-4
(Please visit website for more info! These are not the only folks they need to ID)
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