So whether you are reading the NY Post or the NY Times, the realty remains the same. The drone strike that people bent themselves into pretzels trying to defend actually never killed a Terrorist and did not prevent any terror attack. The Biden Administration (likely in a haste to change the narrative) shot a tomahawk missile from a drone and killed a Afghan aid worker and his family thinking he was a terrorist. Now, after being exposed by several news outlets, they have openly admitted that they made a mistake and they never actually killed a terrorist with explosives.
As I stated from the start. Watching this in basically real time there was almost no evidence to support the Biden Administration explanation for what happened. What they did was basic everyday run of the mill gaslighting. They manipulated the facts, knowing full well that liberal supporters would take the explanation and run with it. But you can only gaslight so far until your credibility comes completely into play.
We had arguments here on this blog. I was told that "I had lost it" for questioning the Biden administration's explanation (which defied what we had just seen first hand). There was no second explosion. There was no evidence that a car was moving towards the airport, no evidence that there was explosives, no evidence that there was a planned terrorist attack.
But to believe what we saw - that a missile hit a parked car in front of a residential house and killed an Afghan family of 10 - was determined by many to be "crazy". After all, the Biden Administration was telling us not only that they killed a terrorist, but that there were NO civilian casualties.
The sad thing is that the next time something like this happens, the same gullible idiots will be quick to allow themselves to believe the gaslighting of the Biden Administration. Even Obama suggested that you could never overestimate how much Joe Biden can fuck everything up. This drone attack was a very sad example of Joe Biden and his lack of basic competence.
Those who voted for him should be ashamed. But they won't be, because they hated the mean tweeting bad orange man. A man who never killed American soldiers or foreign citizens. A man who didn't leave thousands of Americans behind in a hostile country due to lack of competent planning. A man who did not hand over 85 billion in military equipment to terrorists. A man who would not have fucked up 99.9% of what Joe Biden has fucked up already.
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I gave you credit two days ago!
But one thing we should discuss.
Infowars posted three paragraphs. One is propaganda the other ones are not propaganda.
1 The Biden regime has confessed to the indiscriminate slaughter of 10 Afghan civilians, including 7 children in Kabul with a drone strike they originally claimed took the lives of individuals involved with the coordination of suicide bombings that resulted in the deaths of 13 U.S. servicemembers at the Kabul airport.
2:The Biden regime has admitted that the Kabul drone strike meant for “ISIS-K” terrorists in Afghanistan actually killed an innocent Afghan aid worker and 9 members of his family, including 7 children. The admission came from Gen. Frank McKenzie, the top general of US Central Command, at the Pentagon on Friday.
3;“This strike was taken in the earnest belief that it would prevent an imminent threat to our forces and the evacuees at the airport, but it was a mistake and I offer my sincere apology,” he said, adding that he is “fully responsible for this strike and this tragic outcome.” Sumaya, the youngest child killed by the Biden regime, was just two years old.
Scott, wars are terrible. We have been killing each other's since we evolved from apes.
It was a terrible day.
But we shouldn't discredit the United States by saying we actually don't care about anyone.
That damaged our country for political reasons.
They did say that a propane tank exploded during the attack and they thought it was evidence of the secondary explosion.
You didn't include it in your diatribe.
Roger
The issue isn't whether or not the Biden administration acted in good faith or not. When you shoot missiles from a drone from miles and miles away - you have a dutiful responsibility to get it right. You cannot be 50% sure you are hitting a terrorist. You cannot be 75% sure. You cannot be 95% sure. You have to be 100% sure. Now that we know the truth, there doesn't appear to be any real evidence of a terror attack. It could be just flat out incompetence or it could be something they thought would change the narrative (and show that Biden meant business when he said he would track down the people who killed our soldiers).
But the real issue here Roger... is that you were gaslighted by the Biden Administration and you absolutely refused to look at the evidence that was right in front of our eyes. You literally ignored every bit of real evidence in favor of 100% faith in nothing more than "what you were told".
That is gaslighting at it's worst.
But worse than that... you called me and idiot, crazy, out of my mind, and every name under the book because I looked at the evidence and made an evaluation that was different from what your heroes were telling you.
I was right because I looked at reality.
You were wrong because you believed what you were told.
When I said before
The 99.9% of what Donald Trump did has fucked up.
You diagnosed me with TDS.
You said 99.9% of what Joe Biden has fucked up already.
I'm laughing at you Scott.
I'm not a psychiatrist like you believe you are. But it looks like SJDS.
You actually believe that I can't think for myself.
You have no idea how difficult it is.
Probably because you can't comprehend it.
I spend a lot more time reading the right wing websites than the President's posts or anything else.
Because there are very few liberal websites like pjmedia etc..
But worse than that... you called me and idiot, crazy, out of my mind, and every name under the book because I looked at the evidence and made an evaluation that was different from what your heroes were telling you.
Your own words matter Scott. Because I actually understand it much better than you can imagine.
But take a look at this!
Over much of the last 20 years, the United States has repeatedly targeted the wrong people in its effort to go after terrorists. While it has killed many who were connected in one way or another to organizations that threatened the United States, there is a well-documented record of strikes that killed innocent people from almost the very first months of its presence in Afghanistan, starting in December 2001 and ending with the death of Mr. Ahmadi and members of his family.
In the years in between, the United States killed dozens of civilians at a wedding and more than 100 civilians, many of them children, in Farah Province in 2009. In 2016, the military mistakenly bombed a Médecins Sans Frontières hospital in Kunduz Province that killed 42 doctors, patients and medical staff.
“The U.S. military has admitted to hundreds and hundreds of ‘mistaken’ killings over nearly 20 years of airstrikes, typically only after initially denying problems and then only investigating after public exposure by media or other independent observers,” John Sifton, the Asia advocacy director at Human Rights Watch, wrote in a Twitter post on Friday, shortly after the military took responsibility for the mistake.
“The U.S. has a terrible record in this regard, and after decades of failed accountability, in the context of the end of the war in Afghanistan, the U.S. should acknowledge that their processes have failed, and that vital reforms and more independent outside scrutiny is vital,” he said.
Sami Sahak, Wali Arian and Eric Schmitt contributed reporting.
Alissa J. Rubin is a former Kabul Bureau Chief who spent more than seven years in Afghanistan and is a Pulitzer Prize winner for her work there. @Alissanyt
This story is from the fake news New York Times article. Something you don't read.
Most of my links are to right wing nutcase websites...
Afghans Somber but Not Surprised as U.S. Calls Drone Strike a ‘Tragic Mistake’ https://nyti.ms/3knmbQY
Scott.
This applies to you. Not me.
You were wrong because you believed what you were told.
Though the president is commander in chief, Congress also provides civilian control of the military and requires every two-star general and above to commit to inform it of concerns they have about executive branch actions. So General Milley discussing the president’s soundness with the speaker of the House, while unseemly, could be understood as fulfilling his constitutional responsibilities.
It is also true that the U.S.-China military relationship is not well established, so it would be sensible to minimize miscalculation by the Chinese military, which probably poorly understands the American political process, in the confusion following the events of Jan. 6.
Yet General Milley’s actions apparently came as a surprise to at least some Trump administration national security officials. Whether that’s indicative of a clandestine move by the chairman or simply the routine dysfunction of an administration that wasn’t well managed is difficult to assess. We may never find out the full story: It’s unlikely that General Milley or other military leaders would publicly rebut the account, since that would draw them further into the glare of civilian politics.
But even if the Woodward and Costa account sensationalizes General Milley’s actions, his choices are problematic for civil-military relations. Account after account of the Trump administration is rife with General Milley’s friends and colleagues describing his conversations and ascribing the noblest of motives to him. Either General Milley has the most indiscreet circle of acquaintances in Washington or he’s authorizing it to reshape his image.
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One can sympathize with the general’s frustration of having as his legacy the image of him striding through Lafayette Square in combat fatigues alongside a president who is threatening to use the military against American citizens and still think it’s unbecoming for the president’s senior military adviser to be so actively working to cast himself as the savior of the Republic.
Nor is the problem just optics. As Carrie Lee rightly assesses in The Washington Post, General Milley talking up his role both damages the trust civilians have in the military and encourages further politicization of the military itself. Presidents believing the military is working against them or is incapable of maintaining confidentiality will discredit the military’s advice. And future military leaders with less noble motives will be less confined by the civil-military norms that General Milley’s choices are weakening.
Imo he will be seen as a hero.
The Deeper Problem Behind General Milley’s ‘Secret Phone Calls’ https://nyti.ms/3CjTBpO
And again The American Greatness is a conspiracy theory addiction website.
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Mark Milley Exposes the Myth of American ‘Democracy’
Milley's attack on civilian control of the military is the latest indication that our wokeist ruling class will take no prisoners in its assault upon the pillars of the American constitutional order.
By Josh Hammer
September 16, 2021
This week’s deeply unsettling revelation of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley’s alleged late Trump administration-era perfidy, bordering on high treason, is but one glaring fusillade in a years-long crusade by America’s decrepit ruling class to condemn and ultimately subjugate us “deplorables,” “wrong-thinkers” and all others with a conservative or traditionalist worldview. It is a shot across the bow in that roiling cold domestic conflict, and a clarion call as to the relevant stakes. It is also a brazen assault on one of the most rudimentary defining features of America’s constitutional order — an assault that exposes the lie that the ruling class and its left-wing echo chamber denizens care one whit about the very “democracy” they invariably claim to cherish.
To recap, a leak of a forthcoming book from Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, “Peril,” claims that two days after the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot, Milley was so bothered by former President Donald Trump’s demeanor and conduct that he deemed it necessary to take unilateral action outside the formal chain of command. Specifically, Milley allegedly convened a rogue meeting with senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon’s de facto war room, to tell them not to accept military orders from anyone unless he was personally involved.
In effect, Milley, haunted by hysterical cable news-induced nightmares and caving to delusions of grandeur, took impetuous action to cut out the commander in chief of the U.S. Armed Forces himself from the formal chain of command. He did so, we are made to believe, out of fear the lame-duck president might launch a high-scale attack or nuclear weapon strike, perhaps against China.
Although the qualifier “allegedly” is perhaps strictly necessary to describe Milley’s actions, it is worth noting that Milley’s office responded to the leak by issuing a nonapology “apology.” Milley’s “calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with (his) duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability,” the response statement from spokesperson Col. Dave Butler read.
There was, in short, no denial, which all but assuredly means the allegations from “Peril” are true. And since the statement, President Joe Biden has resisted manifold calls for Milley’s resignation, including one from Milley’s former boss, former acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller, and even one from the notorious anti-Trump former National Security Council staffer Alexander Vindman. He has instead pledged that he has “great confidence” in Milley.
There could not possibly be a clearer example of how much the American ruling class is drunk on power and of how little it cares for any and all obstacles standing in the way of its accumulation and exercise of that power.
The current era Republicans are addicted to conspiracy theories
They did say that a propane tank exploded during the attack and they thought it was evidence of the secondary explosion.
Because there wasn't one. And there was no secondary explosion.
Scott, wars are terrible. We have been killing each other's since we evolved from apes.
It was a terrible day.
If we had eyes on the ground this tragedy could've been avoided.
But we shouldn't discredit the United States by saying we actually don't care about anyone.
We don't the president does. He is remarkably unsympathetic to the tragedy. And his demeanor is cold and uncaring actually blaming the family for getting bombed. A normal president would have been on top of the situation with a sympathetic apology.
That damaged our country for political reasons.
The only one who is damaging our country for political reasons is Joe Biden. See above.
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Another consequence of refusing to get vaccinated despite an employer’s mandate, according to experts, is that employees may be ineligible to collect unemployment benefits. In case an employee is allowed to work despite non-vaccination, it is also possible that their insurance costs would increase.
Credit: businessinsider.com
Employees may also pay an amount to cover the risks that come with COVID-19. An example would be what Delta CEO Ed Bastian imposed last month. He said that the remaining 25 percent of Delta employees have to pay a $200 monthly fee to cover the risk of hospitalization due to COVID-19. He pointed out in his memo, “The average hospital stay for COVID-19 has cost Delta $50,000 per person. This surcharge will be necessary to address the financial risk the decision to not vaccinate is creating for our company.”
Also Read: Dr. Anthony Fauci Warns Of Possible ‘Monster’ COVID-19 If The Pandemic Continues
With all these consequences, unvaccinated Americans should look into getting vaccinated as soon as possible if they do not want to get fired from their jobs, pay extra fees, or pay more for their insurance costs.
According to worldometer data, COVID-19 has so far infected 42,799,907 people in the United States and claimed 690,714 lives.
In the years in between, the United States killed dozens of civilians at a wedding and more than 100 civilians, many of them children, in Farah Province in 2009. In 2016, the military mistakenly bombed a Médecins Sans Frontières hospital in Kunduz Province that killed 42 doctors, patients and medical staff.
2009 and 2016 were Obama fuck ups.
How many happened between 2017 and 2020 - since you accuse Trump of fucking everything up? How many people did he kill with overzealous military attacks?
Almost everything senior defense officials asserted in the hours, and then days, and then weeks after the Aug. 29 drone strike turned out to be false. The explosives the military claimed were loaded in the trunk of a white Toyota sedan struck by the drone’s Hellfire missile were probably water bottles, and a secondary explosion in the courtyard in a densely populated Kabul neighborhood where the attack took place was probably a propane or gas tank, officials said.
You were wrong because you believed what you were told.
What was I wrong about?
And who was I listening to?
Because I was right about the drone strike largely because I didn't listen to anyone and just looked at the evidence.
Which, btw... is my job in a nutshell.
I don't blame Biden or Obama or Trump for those horrible things
Trump fucked up the covid-19 pandemic crisis but you never criticized him for saying anything!
I watched the same videos and until I actually read and heard the evidence I didn't make up my mind about it, except for calling you a cultist.
Pjmedia said this today but it also occurred during the Trump campaign.
New daily coronavirus cases in U.S. rise to 145,000, latest all-time high
With more than 10 million coronavirus cases reported across the U.S., public health experts are calling for universal face mask usage. Here's why. (The Washington Post)
By
Meryl Kornfield
,
Jacqueline Dupree
,
Marisa Iati
,
Paulina Villegas
,
Siobhán O'Grady
and
Hamza Shaban
November 11, 2020 at 11:30 p.m. EST
Look. Nobody is perfect, especially in a historic place in time.
Biden is not perfect but he is not trying to overturn the election day results like Trump did on January 6th
You don't give him credit for immunizing millions of Americans. At a daily rate much higher than ever before in history.
https://www.facebook.com/615793932/posts/10160225488208933/
This is why you should wonder about everything you said about California's Governor Newsom vs DeSantis.
California last month added jobs at three times the rate of the nation, as teachers returned to classrooms, entertainment venues reopened, and vacationers traveled despite a surge in COVID-19 infections. California has strong safety standards compared to Florida.
Payroll jobs in the state grew in August by 104,300 to a total of 16.63 million, accounting for 44% of U.S. job growth, officials reported. At 0.6%, California’s monthly job growth was triple the 0.2% national pace.
The nation’s employment recovery was unexpectedly slow last month as vaccination rates in many states lagged behind that in California.
As of this week, two-thirds of California’s population is at least partially vaccinated against COVID-19. Nonetheless, with the coronavirus’ Delta variant continuing to spread and vaccine resistance persisting, the state’s recovery may remain uneven, economists said.
“California’s economy is now coping with larger concerns about the Delta variant than in the second week of August, when the jobs data was collected,”
This is why you should wonder about everything you said about California's Governor Newsom vs DeSantis.
California last month added jobs at three times the rate of the nation, as teachers returned to classrooms, entertainment venues reopened, and vacationers traveled despite a surge in COVID-19 infections. California has strong safety standards compared to Florida.
DeSantis already added the jobs when he reopened Florida's economy months ago. And if California has stronger safety standards then why is there a surge in COVID-19 infections. The rate of infections that exceeded Florida despite draconian mask mandates and the shutdown of the economy.
California has one of the highest rates of small business bankruptcies in the nation. Are you proud of that.
California last month added jobs at three times the rate of the nation
You FUCKING MORON.*
You don't get to intentionally destroy businesses and jobs for no good reason at all, and then take credit for them as "added" jobs. They were not "added," they were restored.
Your 'American Psycho' look-alike was yucking it up at the French Laundromat while hypocritically destroying millions of lives just because he could.
Newsom's a piece of shit and I'm glad you assholes had to spend tens of millions to save him.
*h/t: Indy Voter.
https://twitter.com/rlamick/status/1432834348277846022?s=19
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-09-17/california-jobs-august-2021-unemployment
I'm so privileged to be white!
Oh to be white in America.
To be white in America means i can jump police barricades, storm the cradle of our democracy and even angrily confront police and the officers take selfies with them!
I’ve read Mao Zedong. I’ve read Karl Marx. I’ve read Lenin. That doesn’t make me a communist! I personally find it offensive that we are accusing the United States military . . . of being ‘woke’ or something else because we are studying some theories that are out there.
His CRT education made him a Communist!
General Milly should be the next Benedict Arnold!
Trump is a piece of shit and I'm glad you assholes had to spend tens of millions to save him.
Fixed it for you rat.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
President Biden, 78, hits the beach as the Pentagon admits it killed seven kids in a drone strike, the French recall their ambassador, the FDA blows up his booster plans and 12,000 Haitian migrants set up camp under a bridge in Texas
Emperor Donald Trump made it clear on Friday that he’s gunning to get all 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach him for inciting the Capitol insurrection catapulted out of Congress.
“1 down, 9 to go!” Emperor Trump crowed in a one-line statement after one of those Republicans, Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH), announced he would not run for reelection in 2022 due to the “toxic dynamics” of his party.
The Emperor had put out a longer statement earlier in the morning declaring that Gonzalez’s retirement “is no loss for Ohio or our country” and railing against the lawmaker’s “ill-informed and otherwise very stupid impeachment vote.”
Emperor Trump also emphasized his endorsement of Gonzalez’s primary challenger, Max Miller.
Gonzalez called Emperor Trump a “cancer for the country” in a New York Times interview on the day he announced his decision.
The lawmaker claimed that his retirement was not prompted by the threats he has received since he voted for impeachment.
Emperor Trump’s victory lap highlights his quest for vengeance against the handful of members of Republicans who held him accountable for unleashing a hoard of his supporters upon the Capitol on Jan. 6.
In addition to Gonzalez,Emperor Trump has endorsed the primary challengers of Reps. Fred Upton (R-MI), Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-WA) and Liz Cheney (R-WY), whom Trump successfully got stripped of her leadership position as House Republican Conference chair.
WHAT TOOK PLACE IN WASHINGTON TODAY WAS NOT A RALLY. IT WAS A FIZZLE.
Laura Loomer said she hoped she could contract Covid so she could show that it as minor as food poisoning, is now singing a different tune.
“Just pray for me, please. Can’t even begin to explain how brutal the body aches and nausea that come with Covid are. I am in so much pain.”
Roger, I beat your ass on "fuses" and France.
Stop crying about the beating.
From Alky's link.
"The nation’s employment recovery was unexpectedly slow last month."
Very expectedly.
CA. Unemployment 🤣7.5%😅
Roger is always spectacularly wrong.
WHAT TOOK PLACE IN WASHINGTON TODAY WAS NOT A RALLY. IT WAS A FIZZLE.
There was never any threat and there was never any chance for violence. Even Trump told people "NOT TO GO" because he said it was a set-up to make conservatives look bad.
Nice try, though Reverend.
I am sure you are very disappointed. I told you that there would be no violent riot and that the idiots in charge in DC were out to lunch. You, like everyone on the left apparently believed that there would be more violence from senseless conservatives?
Didn't happen!
Once again COLDHEART WAS RIGHT...
and you drips were wrong...
AGAIN!!!!
California with it's 7.5 % unemployment rate rank 49th worse State.
Bragging Alky is again spectacularly wrong.
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