Friday, September 16, 2016

Patty Solis Doyle admits this started in 2007
From a Clinton campaign coordinator

Doyle appeared about an hour later on CNN with Wolf Blitzer to address the issue once again. She denied that Hillary Clinton had started the Birther theory — then admitted that someone in the Clinton campaign had, in fact, been involved. Here is part their exchange:
Blitzer: Someone supporting Hillary Clinton was trying to promote this so-called Birther issue? What happened? 
Doyle: So we — absolutely, the campaign nor Hillary did not start the Birther movement, period, end of story there. There was a volunteer coordinator, I believe, in late 2007, I believe, in December, one of our volunteer coordinators in one of the counties in Iowa — I don’t recall whether they were an actual paid staffer, but they did forward an email that promoted the conspiracy. 
Blitzer: The Birther conspiracy?  
Doyle: Yeah, Hillary made the decision immediately to let that person go. We let that person go. And it was so, beyond the pale, Wolf, and so not worthy of the kind of campaign that certainly Hillary wanted to run. 

So let's be clear here folks... There was an email circulated by the Clinton campaign that was apparently not meant to go public (or was it?). But said email was forwarded by someone within the campaign that quite obviously had access to this email.

But no matter how you argue this, the idea that Barack Obama was not born in the United States did not come from Trump. It came from a 2007 internal Clinton campaign email that was floated as a possible campaign issue.

But let's turn this around. If the Trump campaign was floating a controversial email within their ranks, and it ended up going public. Would anyone in the press blame anyone other than Trump himself? Would anyone accept that it was the fault of the "rogue" campaign worker who released the information?

Not in a million years...

22 comments:

Anonymous said...



according to McClatchy Washington Bureau Chief James Asher, sid vicious blumenthal tried to pitch the birther issue directly to him.

KD, HB was proven Wrong again said...


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Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

On Friday, Clinton’s former senior aide Patti Solis Doyle acknowledged that a volunteer coordinator in Iowa forwarded a birther-related email. “Hillary made the decision immediately let that person go,” she said. “We let that person go. It was so beyond the pale of the campaign Hillary wanted to run and that we as a staff wanted to run that I called David Plouffe who was managing Barack Obama to apologize to say this is not coming from us, that this was rogue volunteer.”

“The campaign nor Hillary did not start the birther movement, period,” she said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-clinton-228304#ixzz4KSmzNcSm
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C.H. Truth said...

Okay Roger...

Who created the email that was "forwarded"?

This rogue coordinator did not make this up herself. She took an internal memo from the Clinton camp and made it public.

You state that the Hillary Clinton campaign "apologized" for the email? Why apologize if you had nothing to do with it?

Bottom line: This information was put out to Hillary campaign worker by the Hillary Clinton campaign - sent within the campaign. That is without denial. The only denial here is that they claim that they didn't want it to go public.

But it did... like wikileaks, an internal email went public.

How this is on "anyone else" is beyond me. If Hillary's campaign had not been circulating the email in the first place, a "rogue coordinator" would not have been able to go public with it.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger -

Apparently we are a long ways off from your demands that it was Donald Trump who was the "original birther".

You want to admit you were wrong on that one?

wphamilton said...

Trump wasn't the original (that would be Hillary, or whoever she got it from), but Trump did take it and run with it.

Why does it matter?

C.H. Truth said...

I am not quite sure WP...

But suddenly the main stream media thought Obama's birthplace should be the main story again. Let's see how long they will look stupid trying to keep it in the news.

It reeks of desperation. You have to wonder how bad Hillary's "internal" polling is when they are trying to pounce on this as an issue.

Indy Voter said...

I see nothing that suggests the original email was generated by the campaign. The way I read her quote is that the staffer received an external email and then forwarded it, using a campaign email address. The staffer was then fired for doing this.

C.H. Truth said...

It has been suggested that the Hillary Campaign mulled the idea of using this line of attack, but backed off.

Or maybe they didn't. Maybe the plan all along was to leak the information and then blame a rogue coordinator.

Either way, I would love to hear from the fired coordinator. I doubt anyone from the media will work very hard to speak with her.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

NBC

So-called "'birthers" are OK with Donald Trump abandoning their cause, as long it helps him win the presidency — even if they still believe Obama was born in Kenya and don't necessarily agree with his claim that Hillary Clinton started their movement.

"President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period," Trump said Friday in Washington, D.C., reversing course on a five-year campaign to undercover proof that Obama was not really born in Hawaii. No evidence was revealed during the course of that time to back up his initial claim.

But in his 40-second statement, Trump replaced one conspiracy theory with another by claiming Clinton "started the birther controversy." That is simply not true, according to multiple independent fact checkers, who call the claim "ridiculous."

And now, even some leading birther activists tell NBC News that Clinton was not involved in their effort.

Trump didn't start the birther movement either, but he was by far its highest-profile spokesperson.

Commonsense said...

Drudge has a link to a 2008 Politico story where the Obama campaign was bitterly complaining about the Clinton campaign's fear mongering tactics.

At issue was a picture of Obama dressed in traditional Kenyan garb during his visit to the country before his presidential run.

Like the "basket of deplorables" comment, the birther issue is backfiring on the Clinton campaign.

Big Time.

Loretta said...

I guess it's different interpretations.

But, we DO know it came from democrats.

We also know that the lawsuits were started by a democrat.

I don't recall Hillary calling anyone racist back then.....

opie' said...


Either way, I would love to hear from the fired coordinator.

You mean the fired volunteer intern......LOL Ever hear a direct quote from hillary questioning where he was born... Or maybe you can find one.

C.H. Truth said...

Opie - see was a volunteer coordinator.

That means she was the staffer who was in charge of coordinating the volunteers. Finding volunteers, determining what they did.

That doesn't mean she was a coordinator (who volunteered to coordinate).

Loretta said...

"Like the "basket of deplorables" comment, the birther issue is backfiring on the Clinton campaign."

I wouldn't be so quick.

The congressional black caucus is going crazy, lol.

If they ONLY worked as hard stopping blacks from killing each other and innocent bystanders.

Commonsense said...

Or condemning Clinton for sending Sid Blumenthal out to spread the birther rumor.

wphamilton said...

I sat with some friends at our corporate lunch room yesterday, and this was playing. We have the full gamut of political views I think, but we all thought it was hilarious that for a solid hour there was literally nothing but some discussion about Trump admitting that Obama was legal. I allowed as it was probably important to Trump since he'd want to wall Obama out, deport him or arrest him but politically speaking who really cares?

The whole thing is a sideshow, a distraction. Anyone paying attention knows that Hillary fanned those flames in the last primary, and that Trump was just acting out as Trump does.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - there are people out there right now suggesting people like Sid Blumenthal were spreading the rumors back in 2007/2008.

You do realize that the word original means?

opie" said...

C.H. Truth said...
Opie - see was a volunteer coordinator.

Hey CH, doesn't the definition of an intern mean unpaid? You can certainly say all interns are volunteers in the most basic sense of the word. Your point is just inane and means nothing other than you don't like the use of the word intern and you feel better pointing out your own error. Thanx again for pointing out the inanity of your argument.

C.H. Truth said...

Hey CH, doesn't the definition of an intern mean unpaid?

Actually no. An intern by definition is a student or recent graduate going through supervised training. Most interns are paid. Doctors, for instance, spend their first several years as "interns" and do not work for free.

Which would all be relevant... except this particular volunteer coordinator was not described as an intern.

wphamilton said...

Birhers was nothing but a tinfoil hat chain letter until the Clinton campaign took it up in the primaries. Sure, an employee was fired for forwarding the email, because that action let it out that the Clinton campaign was working internally on the Birther attack, embarrassed the campaign, and pretty much neutralized that line of attack. Nevertheless Clinton herself on several occasions tried to lend credence to the question.

For true believers, and those who weren't around or not paying attention, this PR push-back might be convincing, but the rest of us know better. We remember it as it happened, and Trump is more right than not that Clinton was the moving force behind the original Birther attack.

Opie' said...

because that action let it out that the Clinton campaign was working internally on the Birther attack, embarrassed the campaign, and pretty much neutralized that line of attack. Nevertheless Clinton herself on several occasions tried to lend

Pure speculation WP. Nothing like perpetuating the trump 5 year lie and blame someone else. Aren't you one of those who believe people should take responsibility for their actions instead of blaming others like you have done above?????