Sunday, November 27, 2016

Shhhhhh.... don't tell him!

What I am getting Roger for Christmas!

97 comments:

opie said...

Another example of a trump voter voting against their own interests. Oh well, I am sure this person will be thrilled with repeal now. Too stupid for even CH to rationalize.....LOL

“I hope it still stays the same,” said Ms. Carmeli, 64, who has Crohn’s disease and relies on her insurance to cover frequent doctor’s appointments and an array of medications.

Mr. Trump and Republicans in Congress are vowing to repeal much or all of the health law, a target of their party’s contempt since the day it passed with only Democratic votes in 2010. If they succeed, they will set in motion an extraordinary dismantling of a major social program in the United States.

But for now, with open enrollment for 2017 underway, people are steadily signing up or renewing their coverage, and in conversations last week in South Florida, many refused to believe that a benefit they count on would actually be taken away.

And Yes it is a C&P with a link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/health/florida-affordable-care-act-obamacare-trump.html?hp=undefined&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Yes, elections do have consequences. Now live with it. Idiots

Commonsense said...

Like I said, he's now a four star looney tune who should not have front page privileges on the legacy blog.

If he wants to continues his lunatic rants and obsessions about the popular vote he should start his own blog. I did. It's not that hard.

opie said...

Gee, Mr. Plagerizer with a GED rants against roger. Maybe you should be given the privilege so you can preach you silly cult beliefs, like you do with your failed blog here. LOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


This is biological. There’s no arguing the point. Liberals’ brains are biologically more able to handle complex thought, and conservatives base their beliefs on fear. This study isn’t hard to believe when one considers the fear conservatives showcase for immigrants, Muslims, minorities and any of the other million things they’re bigoted towards. Hence the success of the 24-7 fear cycle of Fox News and The Drudge Report
.
These are peer-reviewed studies, by scientists who cumulatively have more degrees than I’ve got houses in my neighborhood. Conservatives can try to say they’re biased all they want, but as we know from their beliefs on climate change, they don’t subscribe much to the area of science.

Conservatives are dumb… it’s a scientific fact.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

More information about the conservative mind. Facts escape the Fox/Drudge brain. Without tin foil.


· You spent 5 years questioning his place of birth, acting as though there was a question when it was well established fact. You supported a sheriff (mine) and a candidate (yours) who sent teams of people to Hawaii and claimed “they cannot believe what they are finding.” What they found was nothing.
· You defended the First Amendment rights of people who shot at photos of Obama or lynched and burned him in effigy, but deride the Trump protestors as whiny crybabies.
· You complained that he has no experience in governing because he was “only” a one term senator and referred to him as a “community organizer.” Then you voted for someone who has no idea what he is doing and claimed that was a good thing.
· You claimed Obama was not a Christian at all and was actually a secret Muslim, over and over and over again. In fact, you are still claiming it while voting for a man who has stated he has never asked for forgiveness of his sins because he doesn’t need forgiveness.
· You screamed every minute of every day that Obama was going to take your guns, my guns, all the guns. No guns have been taken.
· You said horrible things about his wife and children and marriage, going so far as to claim Michelle Obama is a man, while voting for someone with 5 kids from 3 different wives who cheated his way out of every marriage.
· You claimed none of it had to do with race while people simultaneously fill twitter and facebook with tweets and memes using the word n****r. Then you vote for a candidate that was endorsed by the Neo-Nazis and the KKK.
· You have wailed and gnashed your teeth the entire time because the country is “heading in the wrong direction!” And yet-
The unemployment rate has been cut nearly in half from 9.3% to 4.9%
Violent crime has dropped 16% and homicides dropped 13%
Jobs are up by 9.3 million and long term unemployed is down by 600k
US crude production is up by 87% and petroleum imports are down by 62%
Corporate profits are up by 166%, the S&P is up 139%, the Dow 106% and the
Nasdaq up 222%

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You get 50 hits a week.

KD said...

IS it unfair of me to Quote HB on Nov 7th, 2016?

"

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Swing and blue states HB Projections
New Hampshire: Clinton
Pennsylvania: Clinton
Ohio: Trump. barely. Could move to Clinton if Cleveland goes hard Clinton
Nevada: Clinton
North Carolina: Clinton?
Florida: Clinton
Minnesota: Clinton
Michigan: Clinton
Wisconsin: Clinton
New Mexico: Clinton
Georgia: Clinton: Barely but ..

All based on facts and experience.

Comey letter has minimal but sufficient to move one or two percent in those voting tomorrow.

Clinton has Obama, Gore, Bernie, Bill Clinton, Biden. Outstanding field offices in critical states like Pennsylvania. Trump: .........
Trump has ... Trump

Neither the speaker of the house, or majority leader will appear at his events. Trump gets.. Giuliani. Who forgot who was mayor of New York on 9/11

The devastation will be confirmed by 10: 45 PM EST. "


HB is it 10:45 PM EST , YET?

LOL @ HB'

Legacy blog, the part of it that HB Runs should really be renamed the "No Comment" blog.

opie said...

Another invincible trump voter who thinks he will never need medical care....And he's in college....sure says a lot about your victory.... LOLOL

From time to time, Damian Hall, 24, can be spotted wearing his Donald Trump tank top around the Eastern Florida State College Melbourne campus.

The first-time voter and first-year college student chose Trump in hopes of a better economy and health care system.

“Obamacare destroys me,” he said of the current system, parts of which Trump said he will overturn in his first 100 days. Obamacare, Hall explained, provides a service he can’t afford and doesn’t need.

“I’m a healthy male who’s never had anything happen,” he said.

Before casting his vote, which he said never had much chance of going to Hillary Clinton, he paid special attention to Trump’s tax plan and how it would benefit him.

Under President Trump’s plan, which includes higher deductions for single filers and married couples, the Fort Lauderdale native expects to see higher refunds each year. But he doesn’t expect — or ask — that Trump work to lower tuition rates at colleges and universities.

— Caroline Glenn, FLORIDA TODAY

Yep....he does' t need insurance now. Idiots.

KD, This is so much Fun said...

HB, crying for attention on two blogs, priceless.


When Trump Trumps Hillary and bests her for the 2nd Time then what will be the excuses for her losses.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Scientific American

BLUE STATE, red state. Big government, big business. Gay rights, fetal rights. The United States is riven by the politics of extremes. To paraphrase humor columnist Dave Barry, Republicans think of Democrats as godless, unpatriotic, Volvo-driving, France-loving, elitist latte guzzlers, whereas Democrats dismiss Republicans as ignorant, NASCAR-obsessed, gun-fondling religious fanatics. An exaggeration, for sure, but the reality is still pretty stark. Congress is in a perpetual stalemate because of the two parties' inability to find middle ground on practically anything.
According to the experts who study political leanings, liberals and conservatives do not just see things differently. They are different—in their personalities and even their unconscious reactions to the world around them. For example, in a study published in January, a team led by psychologist Michael Dodd and political scientist John Hibbing of the University of Nebraska–Lincoln found that when viewing a collage of photographs, conservatives' eyes unconsciously lingered 15 percent longer on repellent images, such as car wrecks and excrement—suggesting that conservatives are more attuned than liberals to assessing potential threats.
Meanwhile examining the contents of 76 college students' bedrooms, as one group did in a 2008 study, revealed that conservatives possessed more cleaning and organizational items, such as ironing boards and calendars, confirmation that they are orderly and self-disciplined. Liberals owned more books and travel-related memorabilia, which conforms with previous research suggesting that they are open and novelty-seeking.
“These are not superficial differences. They are psychologically deep,” says psychologist John Jost of New York University, a co-author of the bedroom study. “My hunch is that the capacity to organize the political world into left or right may be a part of human nature.”
Although conservatives and liberals are fundamentally different, hints are emerging about how to bring them together—or at least help them coexist. In his recent book The Righteous Mind, psychologist Jonathan Haidt of the N.Y.U. Stern School of Business argues that liberals and conservatives need not revile one another as immoral on issues such as birth control, gay marriage or health care reform. Even if these two worldviews clash, they are equally grounded in ethics, he writes. Meanwhile studies by Jost and others suggest that political views reside on a continuum that is mediated in part by universal human emotions such as fear. Under certain circumstances, everyone can shift closer to the middle—or drift further apart

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://youtu.be/AoFvqWbYd_k

Trump supporter has love on Delta Airlines.

KD, said...

HB, wtf, you posted all of this on y our toilet blog, please stop Spamming the Adult blog.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The tin foil is on our esteemed host.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

358 Facebook follows
505 Twitter followers

Myballs said...

Tge affordable care act is now unaffordable. It must be changed. All as predicted by all those dumb Republicans.

opie said...

Myballs said...
The affordable care act is now unaffordable.


Maybe you can explain the merits or insurance to this trump voter from floriduh, who wants repeal I'm trying to determine who is the dumbass here. LOL

The first-time voter and first-year college student chose Trump in hopes of a better economy and health care system.

“Obamacare destroys me,” he said of the current system, parts of which Trump said he will overturn in his first 100 days. Obamacare, Hall explained, provides a service he can’t afford and doesn’t need.

“I’m a healthy male who’s never had anything happen,” he said.

Commonsense said...

Roger Amick said...
You get 50 hits a week.


If you think you're so damn popular stop riding CH's coattails and start your own blog.

But I'll bet you won't. You're too much of a chickenshit.

KD said...

The tin foil is on our esteemed host."

HB the most unoriginal person on the www

KD, Trump Tax Cuts -Liberal will keep paying in Higher Rates said...

I'm trying to determine who is the dumbass here. "

You are, their cleared that up, but you have company Jane and HB who said "IF" TRUMP WINS and he did, HB was leaving the USA for good.

BUT, like all lying liberals, he is staying along with 30 + Hollywierd and other idiot liberals that now, are staying.

Indy Voter said...

You getting the orange version for him, C.H.?

opie said...


But I'll bet you won't. You're too much of a chickenshit. "

Our GED speaks and we all ignore. LOLOLOL

wphamilton said...

“These are not superficial differences. They are psychologically deep,” says psychologist John

Any psychologist who undertakes this kind of study, categorizing people into two political camps by generalizing thought processes from superficial (not to mention random) purchases, is himself superficial and shallow.

KD, 2nd Loss is Coming Liberals said...

The Problem with Hillary and HER (yes she made the election about HER) is that they just are not smart when it comes to odds, math, probabilities and predictable outcomes.

The 2nd loss to Trump will be psychologically
as devastating if not more so then the 1 St Loss to TRUMP.

The Hillary voter is one that supported the idea of sporting events should not have the kids keeping score, that way, no one losses and no one wins, everyone gets a participation trophy.

Time to grow up, in real life that is not ever the case.

wphamilton said...

The main thing anyone is worried about regarding recounts is a repeat of the nightmare of Gore officials goggling at "hanging chads" and stray marks to imagine "voter intent", boxes of ballots mysteriously disappearing while other boxes are "found" in the trunk of someone's car, and paper ballots thrown out for some defect such as voting for the wrong person. And court challenges when the count is "wrong" for one side.

THAT is why Americans despise recounts, not the slanderous straw man of not wanting "fairness", not wanting "every vote to count". The vote has to be fair, with every vote counted. Recounts are for when the vote counted is wrong - not about fairness in voting.

C.H. Truth said...

You getting the orange version for him, C.H.?

On amazon, under color - you have the following options:

Light Silver
Dark Silver
Donald Trump skin color Silver

I chose the third.

KD, Liberasl 2nd Loss to Trump coming said...

WP the left is having a very hard time with the Fact that Hillary lost, after all, as HB Detailed and I reposted, Hillary had it all.

And now that She has lost it ALL, they are unwilling to admit defeat, reflect on why they lost and move forward .

For me this is a grand party , it is more then fun to watch liberals melt like with the Wicked Witch into a pool of crazy.

C.H. Truth said...

Try to imagine if Donald Trump waited till Hillary had announced half her cabinet and then one day before the deadline started calling for recounts.

The media would be insufferable in their attacks on him, and demanding he is undermining a Hillary Clinton Presidency, the Presidency in general, and trying to cast doubt on the entire Election process.

Of course we don't have to assume what the media would say about Trump not accepting the election results. They already made this determination when they believed he was going to lose and would not promise to accept the results.

Does anyone remember what Hillary specifically said about Trump not accepting the election results?

Hypocrisy is the bedrock of liberalism.

Anonymous said...


regarding that tin foil hat placed atop roger's inebriated skull:


Imagine you are one of the anti-Trump folks who believe we just elected a racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-semitic, science-denying dictator. Let’s say that’s the movie playing in your mind. That’s some scary stuff.

Now imagine watching the news as Trump reveals in slow-motion that he’s flexible and pragmatic on just about everything. . . .

As Trump continues to demonstrate that he was never the incompetent monster his critics believed him to be, the critics will face an identity crisis. They either have to accept that they understand almost nothing about how the world works – because they got everything wrong about Trump – or they need to double-down on their current hallucination. Most of his critics will double-down. That’s how normal brains work.

And that brings us to our current situation. As Trump continues to defy all predictions from his critics, the critics need to maintain their self-images as the smart ones who saw this new Hitler coming. And that means you will see hallucinations like you have never seen. It will be epic.

The reason this will be so fun to watch is that we rarely get to see a situation in which the facts so vigorously violate a hallucination. Before Trump won the presidency everyone was free to imagine the future they expected. But as Trump continues to do one reasonable thing after another, his critics have a tough choice. They can either…

1. Reinterpret their self-images from wise to clueless.

or…

2. Generate an even stronger hallucination. (Cognitive dissonance.)

If Trump’s critics take the second option – and most of them will – it means you will see a lot of pretzel-logic of the type that is necessary hold onto the illusion that Trump is still a monster despite continuing evidence to the contrary.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/153559105081/a-lesson-in-cognitive-dissonance


opie said...

ited till Hillary had announced half her cabinet and then one day before the deadline started calling for recounts.

Again Ch ignores the fact that HRC did not call for a recount. Reverse the current scene, trump would still be complaining of fraud, like he did for weeks on end. Do you honestly think HRC had anything to do with what the green party did??????

Anonymous said...

Conservatives are dumb… it’s a scientific fact.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

you don't say?

yet it is liberals who have given jill stein $6 MILLION to date, with no guarantee of, well, anything...

Monies raised go toward recount efforts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. We hope to do recounts in all three states. If we only raise sufficient money for two, we will demand recounts in two states. If we only raise enough money for one, we will demand a recount in one state.

We cannot guarantee a recount will happen in any of these states we are targeting. We can only pledge we will demand recounts in WI and MI and support the voter-initiated effort in PA.

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

a fool and his money are soon parted. so much for the fallacy that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives.

opie said...

The main thing anyone is worried about regarding recounts is a repeat of the nightmare of Gore officials goggling at "hanging "

LOL... I believe there are no more punch ballots in use anywhere. Most votes are either on a touch screen, paper ballot and scanned. All are electronically counted and should be relatively easy to verify. Sorry, I don't share your concerns that the gore mess will be carried through here. Your fears are a figment in your own mind.

Anonymous said...

Again Ch ignores the fact that HRC did not call for a recount.
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no, she did what a clinton always does when they wish to accomplish something while appearing to keep their hands clean -

they send out a surrogate, or in jill stein's case, a useful idiot.

stein's reward for playing the fool for the clinton's? she gets to pocket the six mill that she raised from all of those intelligent and enlightened liberals.

it seems like whenever a liberal embarks on some political mission, it can be reduced to the equivalent of running a con.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Rehash

What I don't get.

The personal attack.

One time only I posted using CH, and I titled it with an apology. I was unpleasantly surprised.

So I used Google to find brain damage by conservative "thought"

Anonymous said...



well rog, when you act like an flaming asshole long enough, and to the extraordinary degree that you did, i suppose that at some point it becomes irresistible to openly mock you.

you pretty much asked for it. so you shouldn't exhibit shock when CH delivers.

opie said...

no, she did what a clinton always does when they wish to accomplish something while appearing to keep their hands clean -

IOW's you too have your head stuck where the sun don't shine and agrees she did not call for a recount, as another claimed. LOL

KD said...

jill stein's case, a useful idiot."

Jill Stien present net worth (Stein's total net worth is estimated to be about $2.5 million as of 2016_, that is going to more then triple.
Clinton Cash makes everyone around them dirty scum.


So Stien a no body gets her 15 minutes of fame and then goes on to what?


History of Losing:

Jill Ellen Stein is an American physician, activist, and politician. She was the Green Party's nominee for President of the United States in the 2012 and 2016 elections. She ran for governor of Massachusetts in 2002 and 2010"

She will lose this too.


KD, Hillary Funded Recount 2nd Loss coming to Trump said...

She is that kind of Liberal retard

Her last name Stein

Her hubby, Richard Rohrer
Her Kids: Noah Rohrer, Ben Rohrer

KD, 2nd Win over Hillary just days away said...

OMG, Opium has become ever more funny.

He is of the belief that the Stien camp and the Hillary the loser Camp have not spoken, have not exchanged an email and are acting completely independent of each other.


7 million is the new cost of the recount, that will end in with Hillary Losing to Trump again, I love it.

KD said...

HB how goes your mortgage?

LOL @ your age that is just a shame and stupid, really, piss poor financial planning.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Yes, I am the most unpopular person on the web. Says K'putz, who according to several former soars contributors, is the main reason why they won't join in to the Coldheartedtruth blog. They can't stand his unceasing stupidity.


I haven't been posting on my health. On Facebook, it's no secret.

Almost two weeks ago, I had an appointment with my liver transplant doctor. I am on the national liver transplant list. But, because of my blood type and my relative good health, I'm not dying soon, much to the chagrin of rrb.

He told me, that unless I get to the edge of death, or find a live donor, with 0 type blood that I'm not getting a transplant in the foreseeable future.

It was not the news I wanted. And because a lot of people who do like me, and appreciate that I've done everything required to be given a transplant, I shared my issues.

In what I consider a miracle, two people, with type O blood, offered me a living donor liver transplant. One of them knows me from the soars days. We knew him as Nyuk. He said that although it scares the shit out of him, he offered because I'm a stand up guy. He's 52, an ex Marine and a stand up guy.

The other is a woman, from the OC. She's 43, and is studying for her PhD in divinity, and will become an accredited pastor of the United Methodist church.

Have a great day, insulting me, and questioning whether or not I'm sane. I have to watch the Walking Dead, otherwise known as the Denver Broncos. And some others. Later folks.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger - I am not mocking you. I am mocking your actions, just as I am mocking the actions of Hillary Clinton. You should feel a sense of kinship with your heroine.

After listening to you try to justify how 70,000 votes can be overturned on recount, I feel fairly confident that of the possible explanations, that a tin foil hat is probably the least offensive.

wphamilton said...

There ARE paper ballots Opie, and someone will be examining "random selections" of them in Wisconsin to determine whether there are any defects. This is right out of Wisconsin election law.

Only a fool would smugly assert that there is no chance of something like the "goggling at hanging chads" nightmare.

wphamilton said...

And by the way, that Wisconsin law allowing discarding of ballots with "defects" would seem to violate Supreme Court opinions that even defective ballots should be counted if voter intent can be established. The specter of partisan counting and endless court challenges can be reasonably feared.

wphamilton said...

Have a great day, insulting me, and questioning whether or not I'm sane. I have to watch the Walking Dead, otherwise known as the Denver Broncos. And some others. Later folks

As a Cowboys fan I can't really sympathize, but you might consider switching allegiances to a winning team. Is it just my faulty memory, or do great Cowboys teams seem to correspond with Republican resurgences?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

One last comment CH.

She has already conceded gracefully.

There was a special on CNN, about how devastating the loss for President.

I can understand why, regardless of whether she has a chance or not. Especially when you see that she will be a full two percent leader in the popular vote.

Approximately 2,500,00 Americans votes don't count. She is feeling obligated to those people.

I'm proud of being a supporter of the most qualified candidate for the Presidency in my lifetime.

Although I saw that you didn't vote for Trump, but given the obvious, logical and unemotional rational, you still believe that he's qualified to to be our President. That my friend, is completely illogical.

Adios Amigo

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

wp, The Dallas Cowboys of this year, is going to win the Super bowl in a landslide victory over the New England Patriots.

No recount will be necessary. With a ROOKIE quarterback.

KD, sf 49'ers have been Kapernecked said...

SF was your team at the beginning of the Year HB, what happened?

KD, HB Lies always said...

Yes, I am the most unpopular person on the web. Says K'putz"

Liar, I said your the dumbest ass on www

Financially you are a disaster.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Financial disaster.

Half million equity. Above the mortgage.

Six figure income retired and guaranteed for life.

Your stupidity keeps several away.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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Commonsense said...

Roger Amick said...

Conservatives are dumb… it’s a scientific fact.


It must piss you off, a "smart" guy like you to continually lose to them.

Commonsense said...

Half million equity. Above the mortgage.

Really? In cold hard cash or instruments you can cash out? If not all you have is a piece of paper that says you have a half million.

Six figure income retired and guaranteed for life.

Guaranteed by who? Same pension fund that screwed the auto workers?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America.

Fully funded, California and Montana, $3,600/month + Social Security, and Medicare.

Kaiser Permanente Senior Advantage, maximum co pay for $ 4,400/year. Costs a cool $150/ month. $5.00 doctor appointment. My transplant will be the $4,400. No insurance like you want, it would probably be $500,000.

Plus my lovely wife, we are making 50% more than the average income of working people.

I worked my ass of for 45 years. She's an RN. She came to the United States, didn't speak English. Got her BSN in four years. We earned it.

wphamilton said...

Sure you earned it Roger. They're just trying to provoke you into defending it, which tallies up at least a point or two if you're keeping score.

Easy to say, but no one reading or lurking will take any of that seriously so might as well ignore it.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

wp, good advice.

But I like to shove it up their collective asses. :-) :-) :-)

opie said...

Guaranteed by who? Same pension fund that screwed the auto workers?

LOL at your jealousy. For a Ged failure like yourself, you probably still have 15 years to pay on your hovel on wheels. Remember, you chose to not get an education or a skill that paid well. You have no one to blame but yourself at your shortcomings. And you better pray ryan and trump don't cut SS and medicare since that is the basis of your alleged retirement. Bet you still haven't thought of that, loser. LOL

opie said...


There ARE paper ballots Opie, and someone will be examining "random selections" of them in Wisconsin to determine whether there are any defects. This is right out of Wisconsin election law.

That is a great thing, WP!!! They are not punch ballots. They are either marked or not. Any interpretation would be rather simple and not nefarious as you fret.

Myballs said...

Hillary conceded but not gracefully. She sent out Podesta to say she would not. The nation didn't hear from her until the next day.

Abd still is not doing it gracefully.

opie said...


Only a fool would smugly assert that there is no chance of something like the "goggling at hanging chads" nightmare.

And only a fool would expect the same from a marked paper ballot. LOL

wphamilton said...

You don't recall the controversy in 2000, regarding the marks on the paper ballots? It even spilled over into court cases - you can read them online if you wish. Interesting that you'd mock the idea now.

Commonsense said...

LOL at your jealousy.

Jealous of what? I'm far more financial secure than Roger and probably you.

I just don't feel the need to brag about it.

And bringing up a GED education does not insult me, but it does show your own bigotry.

I've graduated high school and have quite a bit of post-secondary education and from helping others get their GED, I know that no exam I have taken is as hard as a test to get your GED.

Far from being ridiculed, the people who successfully obtain their GED ought to be commended for turning their life around.

In fact, I would hire them before any FDU graduate.

The FDU graduates I'm familiar with are nothing more than narrow-minded bigots.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Adolf J Trump

Appearing on CNN’s State of the Union, Trump campaign manager and current spokeswoman Kellyanne Conway was asked about Trump’s walkback of his campaign promises to supporters to “lock her up” as president.

‘He said he wouldn’t rule it out. He said it’s just not his focus right now. I think he’s being quite magnanimous and at the same time he’s not undercutting at all the authority and the autonomy of the Department of Justice, of the FBI, of the House Committees, who knows where the evidence may lead if, in fact, it were — if the investigation were re-opened somewhere.

‘But this is the president-elect’s position right now and I would say he has been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Secretary Clinton at a time when for whatever reason her folks are saying they will join in a recount to try to somehow undo the 70 plus electoral votes that he beat her by.’

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He's been reading info bull.com

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Flynn Has Some Serious Baggage

Nearly all of Donald Trump's early picks for positions within his administration have infuriated Democrats. One of the most worrisome for the blue team is Michael Flynn, a hawkish sort who is overtly Islamophobic, for National Security Advisor. As an article from The New Yorker's Dana Priest reminds us, he's got some serious black marks on his record.

To start with, there are some pretty significant personality issues. Although generally well-liked by his colleagues, Flynn has a very bad temper, tends to change priorities on a whim, and has a habit of inventing "facts" out of whole cloth. That may sound familiar, but there's a difference between winning an election and passing muster with the U.S. Senate.

Most significantly, Flynn makes a point of ignoring rules that he finds "stupid." So, for example, he set up a private computer and Internet connection in his Pentagon office, even when he was told it was against the rules.

He also shared classified information with NATO allies that he thought that they should have, even though he was explicitly ordered not to do so.

If those two offenses ring a bell, they should, because those are almost exactly the same crimes that Hillary Clinton was accused of committing. Well, except that she may have allowed classified information to fall into the hands of those who should not have it, while Flynn definitely and knowingly gave out such information.

As we and others have pointed out ad infinitum this election season, intent is the bright, red line between breaking the law and not breaking the law, and Flynn definitely had intent. For example, Jonathan Pollard served nearly 30 years for sharing classified information with Israel, a country that—while not a member of NATO—is one of America's closest allies. Flynn, by contrast, was given only a warning.

The National Security Advisor does not require confirmation, but it is not impossible that Trump will feel some serious pressure within the GOP to reconsider his choice. Some Republicans may object to Flynn's actual record. Others may decide they don't like the optics of calling for Hillary Clinton's head, and then turning around and supporting a National Security Adviser who was guilty of the same (and worse). Then again, they may see no incongruity there—after all, one of the loudest voices calling for Clinton to be indicted was...Michael Flynn. (Bates)

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

7:48 Whattanut.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

I'm far more financial secure than Roger and probably you.
____________

And still far less able to write the Queen's English, financial-LY secure one. ;-)

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is turning me in favor of the recount. The peaceful-transition-of-power playbook doesn't usually include taunting your opponents. https://t.co/zp09H1tBYS

Nate Silver

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You married into money Menstra, I earned every damn cent.

Commonsense said...

Projecting there Roger? You're the one who continually bragged about how much your wife makes.

As for me, I was neither born into it nor married into to it.

I've earned every damn penny. But I don't expect someone who made a living fetching coffee for everybody else to understand that.

Nor understand how bad a form it is to bragged about it.

KD, LOL @ HB Finacial Statement said...

Did Crooked Hillary Steal the Election Yet?


LOL @ HB Daily, I read your so called financial statement, your math is wrong, your financial mind is muddled, probably from both alcohol and drugs.

KD, An Honest Question For the Adult blog said...

Every time the issue of inherence comes up I have asked those that are against it this question.

Are you so shallow and self absorbed that you will not plan to leave a sum of money or other assets to your children?


Generational Wealth - when I read the Liberal Blogs, they point to it as being the greatest financial tool that gets kids of Asians and Whites ahead and it the leading reason that kids of Blacks are falling further behind.

opie said...

As for me, I was neither born into it nor married into to it.

LOL.....still jealous I see. It's not how you are born, its what you make of yourself and your lack of education and menial job speaks volumes of your destiny. LOL

opie said...

Jealous of what? I'm far more financial secure than Roger and probably you.

Doubtful, menstral child. Unless you inherited something or won the lottery, your cultish BS says you are a garbage man with expertise in recycling paper. LOL!!! All you have is SS to depend on. Oh well, with trump and ryan, you may not be able to collect. Idiot.

opie said...


You don't recall the controversy in 2000, regarding the marks on the paper ballots?

Again, nice try at obfuscating your claim that people are against the new recount.

WP... that was an extremely minor part of the recount. The punch cards is where all the time was spent trying to discern if there were dents that proved intent. The paper ballots were not a problem. And please, let me know how you are making up these statements since it flies against the facts. Suggest you look at the following before making more claims that you cannot back up. Thanx for playing.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/01/the-florida-recount-of-2000/

KD, Come On Liberals said...

Are you so shallow and self absorbed that you will not plan to leave a sum of money or other assets to your children?

opie said...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-05-10-recountmain.htm#more

More fuel to contradict your opinion.

In a manual recount of ballots disqualified by machines, election officials often can determine which candidate a voter intended to select. For example, a voter might have selected one candidate and also marked the write-in oval and written the candidate's name on the write-in line of the ballot. The voting machine would read that as a vote for two candidates, but a manual review would show clearly voter intent.

USA TODAY found that up to 18% of the 171,908 disputed ballots could be counted as clear legal votes in a manual recount because the voter's intent could be determined. The rest were irretrievable because the intent could not be determined or the ballot marks violated Florida law. That means at least 141,000 voters, a number about the size of the voting-age population of Orlando, lost their voice in selecting the president.

KD, "W" forever owns the Left said...

Trump currently has won 306 Electoral College Votes

HRC Inc. has to win 100 percent of these States in a recount.
Michigan 16
Wisconsin 10
Pennsylvania 20

I really am enjoying this, Hillary, a very ugly woman and ungracious person, is going to loss for the 2nd Time To Trump.

She spent 1 Billion dollars and failed. Keep spending maybe , just maybe she can buy this election, but IF she doesn't, then what will be the new excuse of why she Lost Twice To Trump?

C.H. Truth said...

This appears to be one situation where Roger, James, and Opie all have a fundamental disagreement with President Obama, who feels that the election was fair, the results were correct, and that we should move on with the transition to a Trump Administration.

Apparently Roger, James, and Opie now believe Jill Stein's conspiracy theories... over the President's alternate opinion, which they generally tout as wise and correct.

Not only are they believing Jill Stein over Barack Obama, but they are believing her with no evidence to back her...

This is why Roger, James, and Opie are wearing Tin Foil Hats.

KD, PA Court says NO to Hillary RECOUNT said...

Hillary/Stien can only get a Recount in PA, IF the court agrees.

Lawyer Hillary will have to file a convincing case to the Court and the Court will have to throw out the Results of that State, order a recount.

It will make for interesting reading to see what Hillary cites as the reason that is so compelling that a recount must be directed by the Court.

Hillary IF she Losses, will have to concede to Trump again.

KD, HB Bankruptcy, as little as $162,000 did it said...

This is why Roger, James, and Opie are wearing Tin Foil Hats."

Yep

opie said...

Please WP, this is reality......






05/11/2001 - Updated 10:36 AM ET


Florida voter errors cost Gore the election

By Dennis Cauchon and Jim Drinkard, USA TODAY


Who won Florida?


Who would have won if Al Gore had gotten the manual counts he requested in four counties?
Answer: George W. Bush.


Who would have won if all disputed ballots - including those rejected by machines because they had more than one vote for president - had been recounted by hand?
Answer: Bush, under the 2 most widely used standards; Gore, under the 2 least used.

Who does it appear most voters intended to vote for?
Answer: Gore.



George W. Bush would have won a hand recount of all disputed ballots in Florida's presidential election if the most widely accepted standard for judging votes had been applied, the first comprehensive examination of the ballots shows. However, the review of 171,908 ballots also reveals that voting mistakes by thousands of Democratic voters — errors that legally disqualified their ballots — probably cost former vice president Al Gore 15,000 to 25,000 votes. That's enough to have decisively won Florida and the White House. Gore's best chance to win was lost before the ballots were counted, the study shows. Voters' confusion with ballot instruction and design and voting machines appears to have changed the course of U.S. history.
t.

Split decision


Over 170,000 overvotes and undervotes were counted. The margin of victory results are based on the four voting standards:




The study found that the former vice president might have won a narrow victory if lenient standards that counted every mark on a ballot had been used. But Gore could not have won without a hand count of overvote ballots, something that he did not request.

The news organizations analyzed 60,647 undervotes — ballots that registered no presidential vote when run through vote-counting machines — and 111,261 overvotes - ballots that were disqualified by the machines because they registered votes for more than one presidential candidate.

In a manual recount of ballots disqualified by machines, election officials often can determine which candidate a voter intended to select. For example, a voter might have selected one candidate and also marked the write-in oval and written the candidate's name on the write-in line of the ballot. The voting machine would read that as a vote for two candidates, but a manual review would show clearly voter intent.

USA TODAY found that up to 18% of the 171,908 disputed ballots could be counted as clear legal votes in a manual recount because the voter's intent could be determined. The rest were irretrievable because the intent could not be determined or the ballot marks violated Florida law. That means at least 141,000 voters, a number about the size of the voting-age population of Orlando, lost their voice in selecting the president.

opie said...

disagreement with President Obama, who feels that the election was fair

Again, CH editorializes where he should just keep his mouth shut. I firmly believe the election was fair. Trump says 3 million illegals voting. I see this as an opportunity to show what a BS er your side elected and look forward to no illegal votes being counted in WI. Again CH, you making shit up does your position no benefit, just show how small you are. LOL

wphamilton said...

In a manual recount of ballots disqualified by machines, election officials often can determine which candidate a voter intended to select.

That doesn't contradict my opinion - it lends support to my thesis that scrutinizing paper ballots was a big factor in 2000 and contributed to the fatigue that Americans developed from the entire saga.

Give it a rest Opie.

wphamilton said...

Apparently Roger, James, and Opie now believe Jill Stein's conspiracy theories... over the President's alternate opinion, which they generally tout as wise and correct.

Not only are they believing Jill Stein over Barack Obama, but they are believing her with no evidence to back her...


It's more intriguing to me that they believe the Stein premise to begin with, that recounting will determine the fairness of the vote. Recounts only serve to establish that the original counting was correct (or mistaken).

It's also a bit amusing that many people - I don't know about present company - accept that it's a non-partisan effort when much closer states lost by Trump are being ignored in favor of close states lost by Clinton.

Anonymous said...

Apparently Roger, James, and Opie now believe Jill Stein's conspiracy theories... over the President's alternate opinion, which they generally tout as wise and correct.

Not only are they believing Jill Stein over Barack Obama, but they are believing her with no evidence to back her...
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

yet another example of their armour-plated invincible ignorance.

the irony for me is after having roger tell us with that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives, that the left would be so stupid as to line stein's pockets with $7 MILLION after having been told with absolute certainty that trump won fair and square and a recount of one state or more will yield the exact same result.

opie said...

That doesn't contradict my opinion - it lends support to my thesis that scrutinizing paper ballots was a big factor in 2000 a

Pure bullshit, WP. Your tenet is not supported by facts that the paper ballots were easily verified while the chads where the issue. Learn your history instead of making crap up. Unless you have a link supporting your idea, I say BS!!! LOL Suggest vodka to calm your nerves.

wphamilton said...

I guess you don't recall it after all.

"For months, news organizations have been dispatching teams with pens and coding sheets to Florida's 67 counties to document every last hanging chad and stray mark on roughly 180,000 ballots that were rejected by counting machines on Nov. 7."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/05/06/florida-ballot-examination-contd/bf300923-9090-419a-86f3-a314d538ee30/

opie said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
I guess you don't recall it after all.

Your ability to ignore the obvious is astounding. Again, it was not the marked ballots that were the problem, those were simple to discern. Unless you link up an article that marked ballots were the problem and intent was not evident, you still have nothing. All you have provided is that 180 k ballots were reviewed nothing else. LOL Please show me you are smarter than your last few posts.

wphamilton said...

The link shows that it WAS a problem, one that echo'd through all of the recounts to the final media-sponsored recounts. It will be a problem again, as are all visually-inspected by hand recounts. It's a fact of the process - I'm stating the obvious, not ignoring it, and the objections are getting tedious.

opie said...


The link shows that it WAS a problem,

Horse puckies.....all it shows is that there were 180k ballots reviewed. You fail to note that most of the written ballots were easily resolved, unlike the permutations with chads. IE.... someone votes and writes in the same choice......guess what....that vote is easily determined to be valid, but the machine kicks it out. Again, WP , all you have done is dug a little deeper into your fantasy. The only thing tedious is your lack of understanding what happened in 2000 which has largely gone away. That is why paper records are so important and machine votes can have real problems with custody. Oh well, keep trying, you may get something yet.

opie said...

Blogger rrb said...
Apparently Roger, James, and Opie now believe Jill Stein's conspiracy theories

The only thing you recognize is what others are saying. She has every right to request a recount and you don't like it. I for one root for the recount since you boy keeps making an ass out of himself with his landslide victory and millions voting illegally... Those recount should resolve those claims. LOL

wphamilton said...

Actually, in Pennsylvania she needs to show that there was fraud - which she failed to do. Even the "voter initiated" recounts in each voting district needed to show fraud: the sworn affidavit by three voters from that district. So it's not "every right to request a recount" but a right which is highly restricted to certain specific circumstances.

Which is why the Pennsylvania recount is going nowhere.

Trump doesn't need recounts obviously, because he won. How stupid would he have to be to demand recounts that could only hurt him? Why inject the instability into the transition of power, at the moment when our Democracy is at its most vulnerable? Wouldn't that be, as Hillary told us, un-American?

People are upset about it for the same reasons that Hillary was aghast at the prospect of Trump demanding recounts. You, as a Hillary supporter, can fill in the blanks of that.

KD, DOA Recount said...

WP you are showing the wisdom of Solomon and the Patients of Job when dealing with and attempting to educate Opium.

T/H to you.

Indy Voter said...

Not really sure what Stein is trying to accomplish with this recount stunt, unless it's to raise money for the Green Party.

opie said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
Actually, in Pennsylvania she needs to show that there was fraud

All she needs to do is provide the trump comments of millions voting illegally. That should be enough proof even for you. :)

wphamilton said...

Hmm, Trump tweets cited as expert opinion in court. Nope, I think he would need to have those sworn to in an affidavit and submitted in Stein's complaint.

wphamilton said...

Indy, it's keeping Hillary relevant and in the news isn't it? If her faction proves that they can continue to pull strings doesn't that help keep the old guard in power in the Party? Pelosi and her team for instance.