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Reality here folks. Trump is seventy years old. He turned a million dollar loan into a multi-billion dollar empire. He's been a successful reality television star. He won the GOP nomination over a loaded field, and went on to win the general election and become President. What's worked has worked, and he is unlikely to change. If I was a betting man, I'd wager that Donald Trump will likely change the Presidency more than the Presidency will change Donald Trump.
So the concept that reporters and authors and academics and historians (or whatever it is that some of these people want to call themselves) will be able to somehow shame Donald Trump into becoming what they would like him to be is pure nonsense.
Trump is sitting north of 85% approval with Republicans. Those who support Donald Trump, believe this sort of confrontation with the media is actually a good thing, overdue, and maybe even necessary. I only expect more of this sort of "conduct" from the President. Those who are offended by all of this, probably better just stay clear.
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I have not said anything about the news conference. I've had to set back and try to absorb what happened today. We have never been exposed to anything like what we saw. It's bizarre and deeply troubling. He was trying to change the game, that being the Russian issues. I think that it might work. But the hour and seventeen minutes are going to be seen as a game changer. His comments came out like the ranting of a man who is completely disconnected from reality.
He spent a lot of time attacking the "fake news". When he was asked that if the news was based on undeniable facts, he said that no matter what the truth is, the truth is that he believes "because I'm involved, so I know whether you are telling the truth or not" He said that the media was attacking him, is that they were upset that Clinton lost. He claimed that his electoral college victory was the largest since Ronald Reagan. When the NBC reporter told him that George H W Bush and Barack Obama got more electoral college votes, he did not admit he was wrong.
The truth is, that I could fill five paragraphs with more verifiable evidence that he was lying or distorting the truth. The real issue, is that almost every nation around the world, are very disturbed by his truly bizarre performance. Our allies are correctly concerned on what he will do. He's the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world. If you were honest and looked at this event, you would required to be very anxious. He is undeniably impulsive.
I'm not saying this because he's a Republican, I am deeply worried about what this 70 year old man may do, considering what we saw today. I'm an American first, our democratic republic, has the longest continuous government on earth. I'm quite certain that it will survive this. But for the first time in my lifetime, I am seriously concerned that he might get us into a Constitutional crisis, or start World War Three. The latter is probably not going to happen, despite his orders.
I am certain that the top level military leaders are concerned. The intelligence agencies are not telling him everything, because he would Tweet top secret data to attack anyone who has been criticised him.
Folks, we all need to be concerned, given his performance today.
"Give 'em hell Harry" comes to mind.
"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." - President Truman
"Folks, we all need to be concerned, given his performance today."
Nonsense.
Drama queen, LOL.
Roger as usual gives the myopic view from the left coast.
At least half of America loved Trump's performance, another 25% were neutral or apathetic while the final 25% were actually upset that pampered reporters were reprimanded on national TV.
Go figure.
Folks, we all need to be concerned, given his performance today.
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quick!
clutch those pearls!
to the fainting couches we go!
oh, the humanity!
It was a pure joy to watch the US President take some of them to the wood shed.
The rants from the left that it was UN-Constitutional was the best part.
They really are dumber then we give them credit.
I recall how the swooning left loved the Obama bully pulpit, now, not so much, have to wonder how many double standards the left have?
I liked that President Trump spent time explaining the promises kept, that HIS Economy, ((((Remember it took Obama about 3 years to admit the economy was his, a child nothing more).
And this economy has come back to life, Boeing rejected unionization of their work space in SC, it was close 74% said NO, 26 % yes.
I am sure the Russians forced those voter too.
The Fringe Coasters decided on the morning of Nov 9th, 2016 that this was NOT going to be a Peaceful Transfer of Power. The Democrats HATE the US Voter.
I'm an American First" liar UCLA Barbie at it again
You told us that on the morning of Nov 9th, 2016 you and your wife are leaving the US for good.
Is that how any American shows how much he.she love this country?
There is a list of around 40 liberal pearl clutchers that promised they too where leaving, todate , like you they all lied.
I overcame 8 years of the distruction of the housing industry, the damage to the banking industry, the Health Care Industry and many others, now that we have a pro-Growth , pro-Business, Pro-Individual Rights President you hate him, for two simple Reasons, He has a R and he is not Hillary.
So much for the outlier rassmussen poll of likely voters 4 years from now.......LOL
President Donald Trump's approval rating has fallen to 39 percent, according to a poll released Thursday.
The new Pew Research Center poll shows that Trump's rating is historically low when compared with other presidents during their respective first weeks in office.
According to the poll, 56 percent of Americans disapprove of Trump's job performance.
1/31 - 2/15 -- 44.6 50.3 -5.7
Gallup 2/13 - 2/15 1500 A 40 54 -14
Rasmussen Reports 2/13 - 2/15 1500 LV 55 45 +10
Economist/YouGov 2/12 - 2/14 1100 RV 46 49 -3
FOX News 2/11 - 2/13 1013 RV 48 47 +1
Reuters/Ipsos 2/10 - 2/14 1774 A 46 50 -4
Pew Research 2/7 - 2/12 1503 A 39 56 -17
PPP (D) 2/7 - 2/8 712 RV 43 53 -10
Emerson 2/5 - 2/6 617 RV 48 47 +1
Quinnipiac 2/2 - 2/6 1155 RV 42 51 -9
CBS News 2/1 - 2/2 1019 A 40 48 -8
CNN/ORC 1/31 - 2/2 1002 A 44 53 -9
It will take awhile for some of those polls to regain their credibility after they missed the 2016 election so badly.
One thing for sure, the news media is not too popular in any poll.
Can some one please tell HyperBolic that the Election is over, Trump WON and Hillary and her third term of Obama was rejected.
That is , unless HB believes she won and her fringe coast votes matter more then the Electoral College and the US Constitution does.
Approval
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Average 44.6%
The President cherry picking, is just another example of how much he is disconnected from reality.
That also includes the self destructive Truthers.
I will bet that within four days, the numbers will be even lower.
The President cherry picking
As opposed to you cherry picking?
I will bet that within four days, the numbers will be even lower.
I'll take that bet but I get to pick the polls. :)
Remember when Barack Obama was at 44% approval and that was considered a good thing?
Good times.
LOL. I for one don't care about Trump's approval rating.
THIS will keep Republicans in power long enough to fix Obama's fuck ups....
"Congress Job Approval Jumps to 28%, Highest Since 2009"
http://www.gallup.com/poll/203606/congress-job-approval-jumps-highest-2009.aspx?g_source=CONGRESS&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
"The increase in congressional job approval in February is mainly the result of a surge in Republicans' approval, which more than doubled in the past month, to 50%. Independents' approval increased slightly to 25%, and Democrats' approval dropped eight points to 11%."
hepard Smith, the Fox News anchor, on Thursday afternoon seemed to have had enough of Donald Trump’s slams at the media as peddlers of “fake news” — or, when it comes to CNN, “very fake news.”
“It is crazy what we are watching every day, it is absolutely crazy,” Smith said. “He keeps repeating ridiculous throwaway lines that are not true at all and sort of avoiding this issue of Russia as if we are some kind of fools for asking the question.”
Smith then started to look into the camera and added, “Really? Your opposition was hacked, and the Russians were responsible for it, and your people were on the phone on the same day it was happening, and we are fools for asking those questions? No sir, we are not fools for asking those questions, and we demand to know the answer to this question. You owe this to the American people.”
Remember when Barack Obama was at 44%
And 44% is more than 39% and plummeting. Densa thinks that is a hopeful sign. Yeah, right. LOL Remember, trump inherited a mess....Yeah...a rising stock market and almost full employment....What did Obama get????? A crashing economy and jobs being shed by the thousands......And trump has a mess. Almost as good as his record electoral college win and millions of illegal votes. LOLOL
Smith then started to look into the camera and added, “Really? Your opposition was hacked, and the Russians were responsible for it, and your people were on the phone on the same day it was happening, and we are fools for asking those questions? No sir, we are not fools for asking those questions, and we demand to know the answer to this question. You owe this to the American people.”
Fake commentary if you ask me.
I'm here following through on what I pledged to do. That's all I'm doing. I put it out before the American people, got 306 electoral college votes. I wasn't supposed to get 222. They said there's no way to get 222. 230 is impossible. 270, which you need — that was laughable. We got 306. Because people came out and voted like they have never seen before. So that's how it goes. I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan. In other words, the media is trying to attack our administration because they know we are following through on pledges that we made, and they are not happy about it for whatever reason. And, but a lot of people are happy about it. In fact, I'll be in Melbourne, Florida, at 5 on Saturday, and I heard, just heard the crowds are massive that want to be there. I turn on the TV, open the newspaper and I see stories of chaos. Chaos. Yet it is the exact opposite.
Bottom Line for Liberals, Hillary won.
Trump lost and the in-peaceful transfer of power is what the liberals are doing now.
Hating on the voters.
HB you had the Hillary win at a massive landslide of 360 at one point, in your non-cut n paste opinion , how did she blow it?
You also let us know she "Had it all" she had all the money anyone could dream of raising, she had all the hollywierd star power, all the Athletes all the PUSSIES and she had the lbgkflyq vote and she had big dog bill, she had whore Mocherelle and she had biden and she had the fawning press and yet she lost to of all people a Trump.
Reporter: When you say inner cities, are you gonna include the CBC, mr. President, in the conversations with your urban agenda, your inner city agenda, as well as—
Trump: Am I gonna—am I gonna include who?
Reporter: Are you gonna include the Congressional Black Caucus and —
Trump: Well, I would. I tell you what, you want to set up the meeting? Do you want to set up the meeting?
Reporter: No, no, no I'm just a reporter.
Trump: Are they friends of yours?
Reporter: I know some of them —
Trump: No, go ahead, set up the meeting. Let's go. Set up a meeting, I would love to meet with the black caucus. I think it's great, the Congressional Black Caucus, I think it's great. I actually thought I had a meeting with Congressman Cummings, and he was all excited, and then he said, oh, I can't move. It might be bad for me politically. I can't have that meeting. I was all set to have that meeting. You know we called him and called him. And he was all set. I spoke to him on the phone, a nice guy.
Reporter: I hear he wanted that meeting with you as well.
Trump: He wanted it. But we called called called called. I can't make a meeting with him. Every day, I walk in, I said, I would like to meet with him, because I do want to solve the problem. But he probably was told by Schumer or somebody like that, some other lightweight.
He was probably told — he was probably told, don't meet with Trump. It's bad politics. That's part of the problem in this country. Okay. One more.
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Seven crazy shit comments.
Trump says that while the leaks coming out of his administration are real, the news stories being written about them are still fake news.
When asked to explain the seeming contradiction in his desire to both crack down on leaks in his administration and to attack news stories based on those leaks, the president simply said the leaks from the administration were real, but the news they generated was fake.”The leaks are real,” Trump said. “The leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake.”
Trump falsely claims that his electoral college victory this past November was the biggest since Ronald Reagan’s. With 306 electoral college votes, Trump’s margin of victory last year was smaller than not only Ronald Reagan’s, but also George H.W. Bush’s victory in 1988, Bill Clinton’s two victories in 1992 and 1996, and Barack Obama’s two wins in 2008 and 2012.When confronted by this, Trump simply replied that he “was given that information,” without acknowledging that the information was false.
Trump said he was fine with WikiLeaks because it never leaked classified information. When asked to resolve the contradiction between his current crusade against leaks purportedly coming from the intelligence community and his past praise of WikiLeaks for its leaking of damaging information on Hillary Clinton, Trump falsely claimed that WikiLeaks doesn’t leak classified information.
Trump dismisses GOP town hall protesters because most of them are Democrats. When asked about the rowdy protesters from constituents that many Republican lawmakers have facede people who voted for Republicans in the first place, and thus shouldn’t be taken into consideration. “They are not the Republican people that our representatives represent,” the president said of the protesters.
Trump insists that the alternative to getting along with Russia could be “nuclear holocaust.” When asked about his repeated praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Trump once again said that he hoped to get along with the Kremlin, while not guaranteeing that he would be able to do so.Trump then veered off course and said that relations between the two countries were important because otherwise the result could be “nuclear holocaust.” “Nuclear holocaust would be like no other,” he said. “They’re a very powerful nuclear country, so are we.”
Trump shouts down a Jewish reporter who asked him about rising anti-Semitism. When a reporter from a Jewish publication asked Trump to address the rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes around the country, Trump shot back at him for supposedly asking an unfair question. “It’s not a fair question,” Trump said to the reporter, and then told him to “sit down.”Trump then went on to say that he was the least anti-Semitic person in the world.
Trump asked a black reporter to help him set up a meeting with the Congressional Black Caucus. When Trump was asked by reporter April Ryan if he’d meet with the CBC, Trump asked her if they were “friends of hers” and then instructed her to “set up a meeting,” as he apparently assumed that she knew them because she was black as well.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/trump-just-gave-a-weapons-grade-crazy-press-conference-here-are-the-6-most-insane-moments/
Trump visits Boeing: President Trump is heading to South Carolina on Friday to visit one of Boeing's (BA) factories>
After a Stunning Loss by the radical Unionizers that poured 1.2 million dollars into that vote, the Trump Timing is perfect.
Boeing is very lucky to have this President .
so what's your point, rog?
the stenographers and news readers of the msm spent 8 years tongue bathing 0linsky's asscrack, and when they predictably turn on the new president that they openly despise, the new president trumps them, literally.
i'm not seeing a problem here.
for the first time in my life a republican president is telling an openly and blatantly dishonest and hostile media to go fuck themselves.
as martha stewart would say - "that's a good thing.'
Spam by the drunkard.
"so what's your point, rog?"
The drunkard doesn't have a point.
He's only here to spam because he can't think for himself.
He got something right.
Remember, I used to give you a news conference every time I made a speech, which was like every day.
No, that’s how I won. I won with news conferences and probably speeches. I certainly didn’t win by people listening to you people. That’s for sure. But I’m having a good time.
Tomorrow, they will say, “Donald Trump rants and raves at the press.” I’m not ranting and raving. I’m just telling you. You know, you’re dishonest people. But — but I’m not ranting and raving. I love this. I’m having a good time doing it.
But tomorrow, the headlines are going to be, “Donald Trump rants and raves.” I’m not ranting and raving.
Outside of the Right Wing Denial Bubble©, the reactions are almost unanimous in saying that he's bat shit crazy.
The truthers are the victims of the best con artist in the history of the world.
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Outside of the Right Wing Denial Bubble©, the reactions are almost unanimous in saying that he's bat shit crazy.
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and outside of chuck todd's mangina, from which he's still combing out the dried and caked on 0linsky man gravy, we all think trump is doing just fine. if he's driving the notoriously biased msm out of their fucking minds, that's awesome.
suck it up, buttercup. it's going to be a long 8 years.
My point is out there to see. But to summarize this, is that his performance at the news conference was proof that he is disconnected from reality. It's well documented that most of his comments are false. Not debatable, but with really disconnected from the truth. What he believes, is the truth.
He is dangerously confused.
Our expert businessman is not as good as he says he is......Wonder when he will announce this development
Ford not scrapping plans to build Mexico factories: company exec
AFP 11 hours ago
Mexico City (AFP) - Ford is sticking with its plan to build two new factories in Mexico, despite an announcement last month that it had scrapped plans for a plant in the central state of San Luis Potosi.
The US carmaker said a planned factory in the central state of Guanajuato will build engines and transmissions, while another in the northern city of Chihuahua will make car parts for use by Ford factories in the United States, South America and Asia.
The two facilities will cost about $2.5 billion and employ some 3,800 people, said Gabriel Lopez, president and CEO of Ford Mexico.
Ford without warning last month canceled plans to build a $1.6 billion project in San Luis Potosi.
#whineylittlebitch
After a Stunning Loss by the radical Unionizers that poured 1.2 million dollars i
Stunningly stupid on your part.. SC is a right to work state that Boing chose for the 787 site because of the low probability of it becoming a union shop. Is stupid your middle name???????
The laughable liberal Press thought they had Trump on the run here.
Welcome to CH's alternate universe. Seems to me, all the press has to do is report the presser, the disturbing rants will speak for themselves. LOLOL
Outside of the Right Wing Denial Bubble
Not sure what anyone is denying here Roger. It it what it is. Trump came out for a Press Conference that everyone was sure he was going to get skewered in a dozen different ways.
He turned the entire event on it's head... and made it about "fake news" and "media bias" and simply flat out denied any and all allegations. No double speak, or politician style non-denial denials. No fancy explanations. Just a basic simple... you're allegations are false, fake news, and I won't take the time to address them any more than to tell you that you are all full of shit.
Maybe he's telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Maybe he's not. But we know for sure that the press isn't telling the truth. We know for sure that in the year 2017 that there is no more such thing as objective news. Only partisan allegations and partisan denials.
Trump understands this as well as anyone. If the press doesn't bother themselves with getting the facts right, and providing objective information to the general public... then they have no business criticizing the President for not taking their questions serious.
He no longer has to answer questions from the press that he can simply flat out call "fake news". This "formula" of putting two and two together to get five, and then demanding someone else be held accountable for their wrong answer. Guilty until proven innocent won't work. Better have your ducks in a row if you want to throw the allegations out at a press conference. You come at Trump with innuendo and flimsy evidence... he will simply throw it right back in your face.
And why the hell not?
Trump came out for a Press Conference that everyone was sure he was going to get skewered
You obviously missed it......He was skewered completely. His alternate universe, like yours, is on a collision course with reality....How many little lies to he tell yesterday? His biggest win since reagan.....the uranium sale by hillary.....most overturned court.....thousands and thousand of jobs from the pipeline....how many more you need????? LOL
This morning driving into work, I was listening to the local dominant FM radio Morning show. I know at one time, this KQ morning show was the highest rated non-syndicated radio show in the country. They pull like a 40 share here.
They talked about the presser. Everyone was like.. it was wonderful. It was the greatest thing. It was fun to watch.
And quite frankly, none of these people are big Trump fans. But what they are (like most Americans) is sick and tired of a biased media who believes that the world revolves around their opinions.
So it's not so much about Trump with them. It's just that someone was willing to take the media to the woodshed. That someone stood up and basically flat out called them "fake news" and refused to play the game by their rules.
That's what people see as so refreshing about this. They are not really digging into the substance of any of it. They don't care about the nuances of who was sort of lying and who was sort of telling the truth. This back and forth between a bunch of people skirting the truth with political double speak has gotten to the point where nobody cared to ever watch those things.
But this was entirely different. The media (which for most people has similar popularity to Charles Manson and genital warts) was attacked and people LOVED IT! They loved the fact that this is the place where generally the media "attacks" and instead they were on the defensive and probably left thinking to themselves... what the hell.
It did, and yet, when the workers of Boeing had a chance to Unionize, they didn't. Right to work states give the choice to the people, you mind not have understood that, you should now. The Boeing workers voted not to UNIONIZE, 74% to 26 %.
The alt-leftist are enjoying defeat after defeat after defeat, so angry with any vote that goes against them. Clearly the left Hates the voters, after all, 2016 was going to be the year Hillary WON, taking back the US Senate, Taking Back the US House and Taking back State Houses and Govenorships.
Tell me which of those happened, let me give you a hint thing shadow president zero.
1.3 Billion into Hillary, no ROI
1.2 Milling into SC Boeing Unionize vote, no ROI
Great news at the end of 2016 Households in America owned more Debt then at any other time in us History.
#1 Debt Mortages
#2 Student loans owned by our government after zer0 took full ownership of those loans and put us the workers on the hook.
Question for those that paid into Medicare, is it fine for you that 100's of billions have been taken from you, shifted to pay for illegals on Medicare?
Trump supporters cheer his combative stance with the media
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-supporters-cheer-combative-stance-media-005317114.html
i'm not even close to getting tired of all this winning.
1.2 Milling into SC Boeing Unionize vote, no ROI
1.2 milling??? Gee, no wonder why no ROI. LOLOLOL
BTW, numbnutz, Charleston is also home to a very large contingent of ex-military enlisted. Perfect people for the workforce. Keep rationalizing about hillary....she did lose and you are still talking about her. LOL
They talked about the presser. Everyone was like.. it was wonderful. It was the greatest thing. It was fun to watch.
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i listened to most of it live on the road yesterday and was laughing so fucking hard i almost had to pull over. once i got into some traffic other motorists were giving me the strangest looks. i haven't laughed that hard in months. it was hilarious.
The Boeing workers voted not to UNIONIZE, 74% to 26 %.
But the latest CNN Poll showed support for unionization to be 80% >
But the latest CNN Poll showed support for unionization to be 80% >
In Charleston CH, where the vote was held they had their ass kicked, right to work state with a major group of ex-military in the workforce. Your analogy once again is total BS, like you.
it's not an "analogy" d0pie. he simply pointed out that cnn was peddling made-up bullshit.
like they always do.
i see the stroke victims unit releases the inmates early on friday's.
Opie - I think you are missing the point.
The workers didn't want a union. The state didn't want a union. Boeing didn't want a union.
The only people here who seems to want a union are the union bosses and politicians and idiots who think they know better about what people "should" want.
The only people who though the press conference was a success. He didn't try to unite the country.
On that the conference was a failure.
You missed the point CH by posting that idiotic statistic that had nothing to do with the Boing vote. Nice try reversing course, a trait you are well versed in. Boing moved there because of the ex-miliatry living in the Charleston area and being a right to work state. You conclusion that boing didn't want a union is just about the most brilliant conclusion a blind man could have made. You obviously know nothing about boing an its history in seattle and jump on the band wagon like the follower you are. LOLOL
I'm still a member of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America. Because I worked my entire career as a union carpenter, I have a defined benefit pension that gives me a lifestyle most retirees envey
He didn't try to unite the country.
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except when he addressed the issue of a divided nation explicitly and directly:
We're not going to try and stop, we're going to stop crime. But it's very important to me - but this isn't Donald Trump that divided a nation. We went eight years with President Obama and we went many years before President Obama. We lived in a divided nation. And I am going to try - I will do everything within my power to fix that. I want to thank everybody very much.
It's a great honor to be with you. Thank you. Thank you very much, thanks.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/donald-trump-news-conference-transcript/index.html
You obviously know nothing about boing an its history in seattle and jump on the band wagon like the follower you are.
I know a little about Boeing and it's history in Seattle. Drive by the Boeing plant all the time. My fiance lives in a neighborhood just within Seattle (close to Renton) that was at one time mostly Boeing houses.
But history is besides the point here Opie. It's 2017 and Unions don't serve the same purpose they once did. Boeing made a decision to open a new plant where they did largely (as you keep repeating) because it's a right to work state. If Boeing wanted their plant to be unionized, would they have built it somewhere else.
It seems to me that you just seem to see something "inherently wrong" (without explanation as to why)... with the whole concept of right to work and the fact that most workers in 2017 don't really want to be part of a union anymore...
He didn't try to unite the country.
In other words, Donald Trump is doing what he said he would do (and what his supporters assumed he would do) when he was elected.
The left believes it was bad enough that he was elected. But to actually govern like he said he would is simply rubbing salt in the wound.
But it would be sort of like expecting Obama to continue to follow the governing principals and policies of the Bush administration, as to try to "unite the country". But Obama said "I won, now you Republicans go stand in a corner and twiddle your thumbs. I have no other use for you."
Likewise, Trump is going to govern as he said he would when he was campaigning. He has no obligation to play along with what the Washington establishment or the political media wants him to do... in the name of 'unity'.
He has no obligation to play along with what the Washington establishment or the political media wants him to do... in the name of 'unity'.
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i'm old enough to remember when roger was enamored by the term "consent of the governed."
well, we have a president who won handily, and is proceeding exactly as he said he would while his supporters - a majority - cheer, while his detractors - a distinct minority - whine.
and then there's this:
“Because when you reduce the media enough in prestige, they — when they do report facts, those facts are diminished.”
- MSDNC's brian williams
huh.
perhaps the media's biggest problem is their incredibly over-inflated opinion of themselves.
they are stenographers and news readers. this "prestige" they demand is unwarranted and that which they are simply not entitled to.
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Marshall law
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Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.
The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana.
Four states that border on Mexico are included in the proposal — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — but it also encompasses seven states contiguous to those four — Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.
White House spokesman Sean Spicer said the AP report was "100 percent not sure" and "irresponsible." ''There is no effort at all to utilize the National Guard to round up unauthorized immigrants," he said.
Governors in the 11 states would have a choice whether to have their guard troops participate, according to the memo, written by U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general.
0linsky's faithful man-gina is very upset:
“Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd on Thursday slammed President Trump’s efforts to “delegitimize” the media as “un-American.”
“This not a laughing matter. I'm sorry, delegitimizing the press is unAmerican,” Todd tweeted.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/319935-meet-the-press-host-chuck-todd-trumps-treatment-of-the-press-is
these nitwits are so remarkably un-self-aware it's simply stunning.
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huh. sarah silverman called for a military coup the other day on twitter. now that she might be getting her wish you're aghast at the prospect?
LOL.
you leftists really do need to get on the same page and organize your outrage talking points.
un-clutch those pearls, rog:
Under current rules, even if the proposal is implemented, there would not be immediate mass deportations. Those with existing deportation orders could be sent back to their countries of origin without additional court proceedings. But deportation orders generally would be needed for most other immigrants in the U.S. illegally.
The troops would not be nationalized, remaining under state control.
and please include the link when you arise from your fainting spell...
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-national-guard-immigration-20170217-story.html
huh. the trump administration is not even seriously considering it, while 0linsky actually DID it:
HIDALGO, TEX. — President Obama’s decision last year to send 1,200 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border may have been smart politics, but a growing number of skeptics say the deployment is an expensive and inefficient mission that has made little difference in homeland security.
Critics of the deployment include budget hawks, who say it is a waste of money, and residents here along the border, who say they are tired of seeing armed troops in their back yard.
State Department officials worry that the domestic use of U.S. troops increases the perception that the border is militarized, while Chamber of Commerce boosters say the National Guard presence sends the message that the American side of the border is a dangerous place, though it is not. Crime statistics show that the border is one of the safer regions in the country.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-guard-deployment-on-us-mexico-border-has-mixed-results/2011/11/21/gIQAly6qXO_story.html?postshare=4311487345296639&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.45ee6ce221c8
HA!
now why would 0linsky do THIS on his way out the door?
This story, from the Jan. 12, 2017, edition of the New York Times, was little-remarked upon at the time, but suddenly has taken on far greater significance in light of current events:
In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.
The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches.
The change means that far more officials will be searching through raw data. Essentially, the government is reducing the risk that the N.S.A. will fail to recognize that a piece of information would be valuable to another agency, but increasing the risk that officials will see private information about innocent people.
One of the central questions behind the Mike Flynn flap that should have been asked but largely wasn't is: who was wiretapping the general? The answer, we know now, was the National Security Agency, formerly known as No Such Agency, the nation's foremost signals-intelligence (SIGINT) collection department.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02/15/surprise-at-the-end-obama-administration-gave-nsa-broad-new-powers/
Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.
Sounds like a great idea Roger! I am glad these things are being leaked. Must scare the bejeebers out of illegals living here. They say self deportation is already happening in record numbers. This sort of story might just lead to "more of them" self deporting, especially those who may have criminal records and could be subject to additional issues if caught.
But here is a thought though... If an illegal immigrant committed a felony while "living nowhere near the Mexican border" - would that make it any less of a felony? Is there really a stronger case for deporting illegals that are closer to the Mexican border or is that just irrelevant hyperbole? Just curious...
LOL. Unhinged spam from the drunkard.
Compliments of the Daily Beast on Facebook.
. You conclusion that boing didn't want a union " Odopium
"retirees envey",,, HyperBolic , I assure you no one envey you.
Oh Dopie should I be as petty as you and point it out, or just continue to watch you and HB self-inflict ?
Which President do the Coal Unions want, well?
"Hillary Clinton told a CNN town hall in Ohio that We're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."
Or
President Trump making work pay again in Coal Country jobs and wealth creation for joe/jane Lunch Pail Coal Mine Workers. A Yuge Thank YOU Mr. President
Again , Keeping a promise to those that voted for HIM.
I agree with Mr. RRB, Winning is not getting old at all.
CHT, Seems that President Trump has a very large "Salt" shaker to pour salt in the wounds of the leftist.... This another promise kept, draining the swamp:
I love all this Winning Biggly:
"While Rex Tillerson is on his first overseas trip as Secretary of State, his aides laid off staff at the State Department on Thursday.
Much of seventh-floor staff, who work for the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and the Counselor offices, were told today that their services were no longer needed.
These staffers in particular are often the conduit between the secretary’s office to the country bureaus, where the regional expertise is centered. Inside the State Department, some officials fear that this is a politically-minded purge that cuts out much-needed expertise from the policy-making, rather than simply reorganizing the bureaucracy.
There are clear signals being sent that many key foreign policy portfolios will be controlled directly by the White House, rather than through the professional diplomats. "
But the latest CNN Poll showed support for unionization to be 80% >
Oh Dopie should I be as petty as you and point it out,
You can be as stupid as you like....you have lots of completion on who can post the dumbest thought...my vote is goat breath....you!!!!! CH IS SECOND!!!
making work pay again in Coal Country jobs and wealth creation for joe/jane Lunch
Great!!! The dirtiest most environmental toxic form of energy makes a come back as gas and oil prices remain low. Good for the miners, fuck the earth as we set another record month for heat!!!!!!
Opium, you are on bitter angry troll.
Hope somehow you stop hating yourself and the human race for killing the Earth.
Have a great day. ;-)
supporters assumed
CH, you do know the definition of assume, don't you. You really are a smart guy, why would you say something like that? Maybe using supporters are brain damaged is more appropriate.
You conclusion that boing didn't want a union " Odopium
Do tell us all what is a "boing" and what did they not want unions?
;-)
Opium, you are on bitter angry troll.
And you are a lonely, envious,and dumbass goat farmer without a clue or education.
Maybe using supporters are brain damaged is more appropriate. " Angry self-inflicting liberal
This is the kind of open hate for the US Voter that continues from the Democrat Party, that still has yet to hire a CharredPerson to lead that hot mess.
And the beat goes on. Let's see a single trumpette complain about POTUS spending tax payer money like they did about Obama.......Never happen here, right goat farmer???? I'm sure the silence will be deafening. Just like boing, you and CH know shit about what went on in SC.
From the Post.
Trump family’s elaborate lifestyle comes at high cost to taxpayers
Barely a month into the Trump presidency, America’s new first family is straining the Secret Service and security officials, stirring financial and logistical concerns, and costing far beyond what has been typical for past presidents.
Is there really a stronger case for deporting illegals that are closer to the Mexican border or is that just irrelevant hyperbole? Just curious...
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well, it might be less expensive since we could just use those drug catapults we're finding along the border to fling 'em back.
"h. the trump administration is not even seriously considering it, while 0linsky actually DID it"
Figures.
I see that we agree you are in fact a bitter old tired angry troll.
SO about those jobs at all of those UNION SHOPS that President trump has created and / or saved. Using Obama Job Accounting Math, must be over 3 million of them by now . and in less then 30 days.
All of this will get the US GDP over 3 percent on the year, running victory laps around the do nothing economy of the ONE>
Finally, someone with brains does the right thing.......his excuse barely passes the red face test, but you all will buy it like nothing happened. My guess, he got out before getting soiled by the flying crap at the WH.
Robert S. Harward, a retired vice admiral, cited family considerations in refusing becoming the national security adviser after Michael T. Flynn . NEXT!!!!!
Don't blame him at all. LOLOL
Right-to-work laws are statutes in 28 U.S. States, with the addition of MO just a few weeks ago.
Opium it would be hard to locate a Factory in a state that agrees with you.
You have a blessed day my friend .
Anonymous opie said...
And the beat goes on. Let's see a single trumpette complain about POTUS spending tax payer money like they did about Obama......
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uh.... genius,
how would we know how trump's spending compares to 0linsky's since the latter was never reported on in the first place?
LOL.
From the Post.
Trump family’s elaborate lifestyle comes at high cost to taxpayers
From the National Inquirer.
Bigfoot sighted riding the Loch Ness Monster to an Elvis Concert
Figures.
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doesn't it?
LOL.
well, it might be less expensive since we could just use those drug catapults we're finding along the border to fling 'em back.
Good point. I missed that. Chuckle...
LOL
nice going rog.
the fake news story you chose to post was debunked and the headline is front and center on drudge.
smooth move.
Tin soldiers and Trump is coming, four Beaners in East LA.© rrb
be proud roger. be proud.
Imported gang violence continues to afflict Virginia: authorities charged illegal alien suspects with murder and all ten suspects for gang participation and abduction on Thursday for the “brutal” slaying of 15-year-old Damaris Reyes Rivas.
Police arrested ten in connection with Rivas’ death: four adults and six teenagers. FOX5 reports “Jose Ivan Castillo Rivas, 18, Springfield, Wilmer A. Sanchez Serrano, 21, Cindy Blanco Hernandez, 18, and Aldair J. Miranda Carcamo, 18” are adults. Another 17-year-old, Venus Iraheta, who has lived in the U.S. for the past ten years—making her a “DREAMer” eligible for amnesty under an Obama executive order—is also in police custody. Police did not identify the other five juveniles. All ten face charges of abduction and gang participation. Rivas and Serrano are charged with murder.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/17/ten-arrested-four-illegal-aliens-savage-gang-related-killing-maryland-teen/
A White House aide confirms to DailyMail.com that the idea 'has been discussed' but wouldn't say if it has been recommended to President Donald Trump
>The White House aide confirms to DailyMail.com that the idea 'has been discussed' but wouldn't say if it has been recommended to President Donald Trump
The potential aim would be to hasten the removal of 'criminal aliens' like those Trump railed against on the campaign trail
A Trump executive order greatly expands that group and may include people whose only 'crime' was sneaking across the border potential aim would be to hasten the removal of 'criminal aliens' like those Trump railed against on the campaign trail
Four dead Beaners in East L.A. ®rrb
A White House aide confirms to DailyMail.com that the idea 'has been discussed' but wouldn't say if it has been recommended to President Donald Trump
And... Still waiting for why this is even a story that has your undies in a bundle?
Am I supposed to believe that there is something inherently wrong with the discussion of using the national guard to track down the criminal element of the illegal immigrants in our country?
Pretty sure such a crack down was campaigned on. While it may be unusual, I am certainly not going to hold Trump in contempt for attempting to follow through on what he promised to do if elected.
Being an Illegal is a Federal Crime.
HB, how many have you sponsored to come live in the USA at you home?
Does your home have locks on the door, IF you do you are a Hypocrite
i'll take dead illegal beaners over dead americans any day alky.
especially those ms-13 scumbags. they should be shot on sight, no questions asked.
Well I read through the transcript of Trump's press conference and there weren't many of the factual errors that the Washington Post and NY Times are so fond of complaining about.
What did strike me, and I don't think I'm being snobbish here, was Trump's rudimentary vocabulary and almost childish reasoning. It is concerning, because he sounds like the stereotypical "dumb guy" that has trouble expressing himself. Maybe he has deliberately altered his speech patterns to "dumb it down", but are there any publicly available samples of Trump communicating in any other way?
You are confusing cultured (read elite) speech and behavior with intelligence.
Some of the most rough hewn people are very smart.
On the flip side, some very cultured people are not very smart.
From the National Inquirer.
The WaPost story, CH. But, they are a failed entity and should be ignored, just like all polls and GW models.
"Sorry folks. Donald Trump is not going to roll over and play dead. He will not play defense. He will not allow the Press to dictate terms. He will not give up the bully pulpit. You hit Donald Trump. He will hit back. He showed the press that Donald Trump is in charge, not them."
All Trump has EVER done is play defense. Blubbering about the press is not playing offense. It's the equivalent of running home to mommy and crying that everyone is picking on you.
You hit Donald Trump, he'll whine like a pussy.
He showed the press that he's the ultimate snowflake.
"The best thing about it? HIS SUPPORTERS LOVED IT! They were cheering from rooftops like all those Muslims on 9/11 [sic]."
His supporters love his bitching because it plays to their victim complex, which they somehow can't shake even after winning the election.
But good call comparing the Trumpraiders with Islamic terrorists. They both have pretty much the same attitude towards America.
"You are confusing cultured (read elite) speech and behavior with intelligence."
No I'm not. I bend over backwards to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he has the vocabulary of a 10 year old. And vocabulary is an excellent indicator of intelligence, so there's no confusion there. Doesn't that bother you, that our President is apparently below average in intelligence?
Doesn't that bother you, that our President is apparently below average in intelligence?
I don't know W.P... smart enough to earn himself a few billion, and eventually get elected President of the United States.
I think rather than judging the qualifications of a potential Presidency (or any job for that matter)... I might look for a past record of tangible accomplishment and success long before I would dissect a person's use of vocabulary.
I think a good case in point was the fact that Obama had a pretty decent vocabulary. He was, in fact, a good speaker (when he had a teleprompter). But at the end of the day, for being President for eight years, there is not much to show for it. What there is for accomplishment still out there (for now)... are questionable at best in terms of being a success.
So perhaps you get what you are looking for. Trump will likely be a much more active and tangible President... while he will never give the rousing speech that Obama was capable of.
and eventually get elected President of the United States.
Acting like PT barnum and his a sucker born every minute.....he got elected....look at the quality of the right wing posters here... either a cultist, racist or non-thinkers are well represented. You on the other hand have been converted. LOL
WP, at the end of any talk/speech President Trump has given are you clear on what he said and meant?
Gov. Brown Thanked President Trump for his swift action on the Gov. Request for money to fix his fuck ups.
At least donnie didn't do a flyby like busch......LOL!!! BTW, what fuck ups are you alluding to. Just curious if you actually have any facts to back up that statement or are you full of it again. Just asking.....
KD, if what Trump really meant was some oversimplified idea of what he wants to happen, with literally no detail, then yes at the end of his speeches I am clear about what he meant.
CH, something for sure has gone right for Trump, but it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with his intelligence. Perhaps it proves that if you took any average person, raised by a multi-millionaire real estate tycoon, gift him with a few hundred million dollars and a successful business, and there's a good chance that he can hold onto it. Winning the Presidency - in the right place at the right time. Surely you don't dispute that, do you?
W.P.
You act as if Donald Trump's success can be all attributed to a couple of lucky bounces. The fact is that all accomplishment is the culmination of specific actions and decisions taken over a great deal of time. He started over five hundred companies. His wealth has continuously risen. He had one of the most successful television franchises. He had to win the nomination in a manner completely differently than he won the general election, while going up against a slew of people with much more specific experience.
This is one of those times where you and I see completely different situations. I see someone with a proven long term record of success simply extending that success into the field of Politics in a manner never done before. (and for the record, I do believe he understood and ultimately exploited the mood of the country for his politician benefit - not by chance)
You see a below average person, who has stumbled his way through life, accumulating 4.5 billion and television fame because of good fortune, and then basically being handed the Presidency by simply being lucky in his timing.
One of us is hallucinating. One of us sees a reality that does not mesh well with our ego driven concept of how we believe the world should be, which as triggered us to see this hallucination. One of us it imagining a purple elephant and accusing the person who doesn't see it of being the one hallucinating.
onald Trump's success can be all attributed to a couple of lucky bounces. The fact is that all accomplishment is the culmination of specific actions and decisions taken over a great deal of time.
The main one being born to a wealthy family, CH. And he also has taken advantage of multiple bankruptcies, screwing contractors and workers to add to his wealth. Just saying, he's rich, made a lot of money, but I still don't have to respect him with his track record of broken marriages and dysfunction on the howard stern show. Seems to me you are easily swayed by his BS. LOL. Listening to trump keeping jobs in the US....where did his ties and little toys come from.......hypocrite.
He just said jobs will start pouring in because the stock market is going up. LOL
Trumptards claim that Trump is a brilliant strategist, who reached his level of success via that strategic brilliance.
Some non-Trumptards claim that Trump is a below-average, who has gotten everything he has through pure luck.
Neither view is realistic. But there's a third option:
Trump is an idiot-savant, an otherwise below average person with a single highly developed talent. Often this talent will be practically useless, but not always.
The highly developed talent in Trump's case is scamming people, and business, religion, and politics are places where a person with that talent can go far. Trump has exploited that talent in all three, and it explains perfectly how got where he is today.
scamming people?
Isn't that just a different manner to say what many (including myself) have been arguing for some time... Trump has serious persuasion skills. You look at the expensive neighborhoods where you have the 6 bedroom 4 bath 4 car garage type houses and you run into two types of people. The executive and the salesmen. Many times they are "both". But a good salesman always has a job somewhere and can always make money.
But certainly persuasion is a pretty decent skill to have. Perhaps one of the most versatile, functional, and important skills to have. Hard to get anywhere in life if you cannot persuade people.
But at the end of the day... the only people who are having the wool pulled over their eyes are those who actually believe that Trump is the only one who uses the technique. Obama did it. Pretty damned well. Clinton tried... but simply never really had it in her.
Isn't that just a different manner
You gotta be kidding.....Trump practices BOHECA management style. Bend Over, Here It Comes Again as he stiffs everyone in sight
Whether or not Trump is an idiot savant with the talent of scamming people, it's the "idiot" part that should concern us. I do look at the character first, the leader's ethics if he has any. But with Trump it's a given, has always been a given, that he doesn't care who gets screwed if it contributes to his "success". If Trump has any special talent at all, it's likely related to his ability to ignore any incipient scruples and then dodge the consequences.
All of Trump's successes has always had the carnival element. We all know that having seen it develop since his Casino days, and prior to that if you were paying attention, and it's precisely why most people including our host felt like Trump had little if any chance even in the Republican Primaries. I am astounded that someone's knowledge of Trump's history could simply slough away after his election. I think it's denial, and wishful thinking.
So we have that kind of person as President. We've had them before, we have to accept it now and deal with it. But it's the oversimplification of everything he expresses that worries me - the level of ignorance and childish thinking, if it reflects his reality, means that Trump can't understand the problems themselves let alone the ramifications of his simpleton solutions. In that case, the consequences will be randomly disastrous, and it will be up to the Republicans to work around his mistakes. The prospects of that aren't all that promising.
"Isn't that just a different manner to say what many (including myself) have been arguing for some time... Trump has serious persuasion skills."
Not really. We're talking specifically about the ability (and, evidently, innate desire) to persuade people of things that aren't true.
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