Russian Collusion - 2017 Version of the "Birther" Movement....
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Nothing to see here either, said the donald... Just another fake fact that keeps pointing at something was going on. Rice is just another distraction for the weak minded.
Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page confirmed he passed documents to a Russian spy in 2013 but the information was not sensitive, BuzzFeed reported Monday. Page, an energy consultant, met with Russian intelligence agent Victor Podobnyy at a January 2013 energy conference in New York as the SVR agent tried to recruit Page.
Podobnyy and two others have been charged in absentia by the U.S. government for acting as unregistered foreign agents. A court filing includes a transcript in which Podobnyy talks with Igor Sporyshev, who was busted as a member of a Russian spy ring, about trying to recruit someone identified only as “Male-1,” whom BuzzFeed confirmed was Page.
Read: Lawmakers Say Too Early To Consider Immunity For Michael Flynn’s Testimony
Podobnyy ridicules Page’s interest in making a deal with Russian energy giant Gazprom, calling him an “idiot” and saying he would promise “favor for favor” to Page and then renege. Page emailed Podobnyy “documents … about the energy business,” BuzzFeed said.
The court filing said Page was interviewed in June 2013 by FBI counterintelligence agents.
Both Podobnyy and Sporyshev had diplomatic immunity and left the U.S. A third man, Evgeny Buryakov, who did not have diplomatic cover, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 30 months in prison.
An opposition research dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele said Moscow had sought to build relationships with certain people in the U.S., including Page. The dossier contained unconfirmed reports of Trump’s sexual escapades, ties to Russia and financial dealings.
Page earlier told BuzzFeed in a messaging app he may have had inadvertent contact with Russian intelligence but would never have broken the law.
Page was never accused during the Buryakov case of having been successfully recruited or of spying. FBI agents say in the court record that they interviewed “Male-1” in June 2013. During the interview, Page described how he and the man identified as a Russian recruiter, Victor Podobnyy, met periodically and exchanged emails about the energy industry, but nothing in the court document suggests that Page shared any sensitive information with Podobnyy. Rather, it appears they spoke in much the way business executives seeking opportunities do – with Page touting his work ties to the Russian energy firm Gazprom. The Russians were heard laughing, saying Page had no idea they were government agents.
The FBI said “Male-1” provided the Russians his “outlook on the current and future of the energy industry” and “also provided documents … about the energy business.”
Blogger Roger Amick said... Just the facts, twit. I noted that several of you said I wasn't going to address this, because they believed that it was a huge story. It's not and it will disappear by tomorrow morning, except on The Drudge Report. The major source of posts here.
One minute it's ridiculous to think that the Obama administration was doing surveillance on the Trump campaign. The next minute the Obama administration was doing the right thing if it did surveillance on the Trump campaign."
Rick Klein and Shushannah Walshe: "...the White House has spent much of the past month seeking to justify a presidential tweet that the FBI director himself has said has no basis in evidence. President Obama still did not order his successor to be wiretapped.”
Roger Amick said... The story was discounted on every real news coverage. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
unreported does not = discounted.
rice's husband is an abc exec news producer. rice's deputy, the failed novelist ben rhodes has a brother who's president of cBS news.
all the hacks in the praetorian guard have circled the wagons to protect dear leader.
and your gin soaked anal-ysis doesn't change a thing.
Now it has emerged that at on October 26, 2016, Farkas made remarks as a panelist at the annual Warsaw Security Forum predicting Trump’s removal from office “pretty quickly.”
Asked at the event to address the priorities of a future Hillary Clinton administration, Farkas stated:
It’s not a done deal, as you said. And so, to the Americans in the audience please vote. And not only vote but get everybody to vote. Because I really believe we need a landslide. We need an absolute repudiation of everything. All of the policies that Donald Trump has put out there. I am not afraid to be political. I am not hiding who I am rooting for. And I think it’s very important that we continue to press forward until election day and through election day to make sure that we have the right results.
I do agree however with General Breedlove that even if we have the wrong results from my perspective America is resilient. We have a lot of presidential historians who have put forward very coherent the argument – they have given us examples of all of our horrible presidents in the past and the fact that we have endured. And we do have a strong system of checks and balances.
And actually, if Donald Trump were elected I believe he would be impeached pretty quickly or somebody else would have to take over government. And I am not even joking.
Now it has emerged that at on October 26, 2016, Farkas made remarks as a panelist at the annual Warsaw Security Forum predicting Trump’s removal from office “pretty quickly.
A ru source used by our rat for proof.... Dayum funny if you ask me. Very impressive creds for a blogger, puts ch to shame. !!!!!
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but Susan Rice is a deeply unpopular figure with our Intelligence Community. Her abrasive personality and overall incompetence grated on the IC. Her habitually coarse language was inflicted on senior intelligence officials more than once, while nobody outside Obama’s inner circle considered Rice even marginally competent at her job. Simply put, she was the worst National Security Adviser in American history—at least until Mike Flynn’s dismally failed three-week tenure.
In addition, Rice didn’t like to play by the rules, including the top-secret ones. On multiple occasions, she asked the NSA to do things they regarded as unethical and perhaps illegal. When she was turned down—the NSA fears breaking laws for any White House, since they know they will be left holding the bag in the end—Rice kept pushing.
As a longtime NSA official who experienced Rice’s wrath more than once told me, “We tried to tell her to pound sand on some things, but it wasn’t allowed—we were always overruled.” On multiple occasions, Rice got top Agency leadership to approve things which NSA personnel on the front end of the spy business refused. This means there may be something Congress and the FBI need to investigate here.
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Rice destroyed the every accusation. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
“I leaked nothing to nobody."
even in her native vernacular, she hardly destroyed the accusation.
point of fact - you're dealing with the one person who is recognized as the most accomplished liar, and least trustworthy from the prior regime.
her lies around benghazi and bergdahl are epic.
"dint do nuffin" just doesn't cut it. especially with THIS particular pathological liar.
Rice said her senior White House role did give her the ability to request the names of Americans swept up through U.S. spy craft. But she would not say whether she saw intelligence on President Donald Trump's associates or whether she asked for their identities, saying that information would be classified.
According to a U.S. official, Trump national security aides discovered after the inauguration that Rice asked that the identities of the Republican's advisers be "unmasked." To Trump backers, the revelations are evidence that the Obama administration was surveilling the incoming administration for political purposes. "There is a troubling direction that some of this is going in," White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday. The White House has tried to use the allegations of politically-motivated spying to shift focus away from the FBI and congressional investigations into possible Trump campaign ties to Russia. Trump launched the first salvo last month when he tweeted that Obama had wiretapped his New York skyscraper, an explosive allegation that senior intelligence and law enforcement officials have denied. The U.S. official said Trump's National Security Council began an intelligence policy review after the inauguration that included looking into how widely raw intelligence and the names of Americans were disseminated. Rice's unmasking requests were found during that review, according to the official, who insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the sensitive information. After viewing the findings, the White House counsel's office told the NSC to stop the review and not conduct an independent investigation into whether there was improper handling of intelligence. The U.S. routinely monitors the communications of foreigners. The identities of Americans who talk with those foreigners, or who are discussed in conversations between two non-U.S. persons, are hidden in intelligence reports. However, senior national security officials can request the identities of the Americans if that helps understand the intelligence better.MSNBC
Blogger Roger Amick said... Rice destroyed the every accusation. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
oh, and now we are safe in our assertion that rice lied to NPR on this topic two weeks ago.
On "PBS NewsHour" on March 22, Judy Woodruff asked Rice about Nunes' claims.
"I know nothing about this," Rice responded at the time. "I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that count today."
"So, today, I really don't know to what Chairman Nunes was referring, but he said that whatever he was referring to was a legal, lawful surveillance, and that it was potentially incidental collection on American citizens," added Rice, who went on to criticize Trump for his accusation that Obama wiretapped him during the presidential campaign.
However, senior national security officials can request the identities of the Americans if that helps understand the intelligence better.MSNBC
How many ways does MSNBC get it wrong in one sentence?
First, it's not "if it helps understand", it's if necessary to understand. It's not "senior national security officials", its one person under Presidential authority. And it's not a "request" so much as a Presidential directive.
How many ways does MSNBC get it wrong in one sentence? ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
that's why i watch it, wp.
MSDNC is funnier that 'the daily show' by several orders of magnitude.
and the best part? they take themselves SO seriously.
Understand: There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked. If there had been a real need to reveal the identities — an intelligence need based on American interests — the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.
The national-security adviser is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president’s staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it was not to fulfill an intelligence need based on American interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on Democratic-party interests.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446415/susan-rice-unmasking-trump-campaign-members-obama-administration-fbi-cia-nsa?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mccarthy&utm_content=susan-rice
Roger Amick said... No names were released to the public. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
mike flynn's name was released to david ignatius at the WaPo.
It appears very likely that Susan Rice was involved in the unmasking of Michael Flynn. Was she also monitoring the FBI’s investigation? Was she involved in the administration’s consideration of (bogus) criminal charges against Flynn? With the subsequent decision to have the FBI interrogate Flynn (or “grill” him, as the Times put it)?
The second point is that, while not a pillar of rectitude, Ms. Rice is not an idiot. Besides being shrewd, she was a highly involved, highly informed consumer of intelligence, and a key Obama political collaborator. Unlike the casual reader, she would have known who the Trump-team players were without needing to have their identities unmasked. Do you really think her purpose in demanding that names be revealed was to enhance her understanding of intelligence about the activities and intentions of foreign targets? Seriously? I’m betting it was so that others down the dissemination chain could see the names of Trump associates — names the investigating agencies that originally collected the information had determined not to unmask.
Third, and finally, let’s consider the dissemination chain Rice had in mind.
The most telling remark that former Obama deputy defense secretary Evelyn Farkas made in her now-infamous MSNBC interview was the throw-away line at the end: “That’s why you have all the leaking.”
Put this in context: Farkas had left the Obama administration in 2015, subsequently joining the presidential campaign of, yes, Hillary Clinton — Trump’s opponent. She told MSNBC that she had been encouraging her former Obama-administration colleagues and members of Congress to seek “as much information as you can” from the intelligence community.
“That’s why you have the leaking.”
To summarize: At a high level, officials like Susan Rice had names unmasked that would not ordinarily be unmasked. That information was then being pushed widely throughout the intelligence community in unmasked form . . . particularly after Obama, toward the end of his presidency, suddenly — and seemingly apropos of nothing — changed the rules so that all of the intelligence agencies (not just the collecting agencies) could have access to raw intelligence information.
As we know, the community of intelligence agencies leaks like a sieve, and the more access there is to juicy information, the more leaks there are. Meanwhile, former Obama officials and Clinton-campaign advisers, like Farkas, were pushing to get the information transferred from the intelligence community to members of Congress, geometrically increasing the likelihood of intelligence leaks.
By the way, have you noticed that there have been lots of intelligence leaks in the press?
There’s an old saying in the criminal law: The best evidence of a conspiracy is success.
The criminal law also has another good rule of thumb: Consciousness of guilt is best proved by false exculpatory statements. That’s a genre in which Susan Rice has rich experience.
Two weeks ago, she was asked in an interview about allegations by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R., Calif.) that the Obama administration had unmasked Trump-team members.
“I know nothing about this,” Rice replied. “I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that count today.”
Well, at least she didn’t blame it on a video.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446415/susan-rice-unmasking-trump-campaign-members-obama-administration-fbi-cia-nsa?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mccarthy&utm_content=susan-rice
More BS coming from donnie....Does he really think all americans are stupid as his base????? Just look around here and the way you fawn over every piece of BS he puts out...
WASHINGTON, April 4 (Reuters) - The White House on Tuesday blamed a deadly chemical weapons attack in Syria's Idlib province on the government of President Bashar al-Assad and said the incident was "reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world."
"These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the last administration's weakness and irresolution," White House spokesman Sean Spicer told a briefing. "President Obama said in 2012 that he would establish a 'red line' against the use of chemical weapons and
"These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the last administration's weakness and irresolution," White House spokesman Sean Spicer told a briefing. "President Obama said in 2012 that he would establish a 'red line' against the use of chemical weapons and... __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
...and skeets sat there with his thumb in his ass while pooty poot did donuts on the white house lawn.
National review opinion means just that. Opinion. It appears very likely that Susan Rice was involved in the unmasking of Michael Flynn.
Let me know, even if she did link flynn's name, how does that change him being the lying snitch who hid lots of payments from the russians or whether it changes the basis of the current Rump investigations. Again, all you are doing is parroting what Rump wants you to believe and change the subject. AIn't gonna work.
Former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice said Tuesday that she never leaked classified information to the press, and that she did not make any requests to unmask the identities of U.S. persons in intelligence reports for political purposes.
“Did you seek the names of people involved, to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the people surrounding the President-elect in order to spy on them and expose them?” she was asked by MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell.
“Not for any political purposes,” Rice replied.
“Did you leak the name of Mike Flynn?” Trump’s ousted national security adviser, Mitchell asked.
“I leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would,” Rice said.
Bloomberg View columnist Eli Lake and Fox News reported Monday, citing anonymous officials, that Rice asked the intelligence community to unmask names in several intelligence reports involving foreign nationals discussing the Trump campaign and between Trump staffers and foreign nationals who were being surveilled by the U.S. government.
President Trump’s defenders seized on those reports as evidence that the Obama administration, led by Rice, was spying on the Trump transition team for political purposes.
Rice told Mitchell there was “not anything political” going on. She said unmasking requests, which must be approved by intelligence officials, were sometimes necessary to get the proper “context” for intercepted conversations in the intelligence reports provided to her.
“Sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request the information as to who the U.S. official was,” Rice said.
National security experts who have worked on foreign surveillance cases backed up this explanation, saying it was within Rice’s purview as national security adviser to monitor what foreign governments and actors are doing.
The names of unmasked individuals are provided only to the individual that requested them, Rice said, denying reports from the Daily Caller and Breitbart News that she ordered the production of “spreadsheets” containing the names of all the Trump staffers caught up in incidental collection.
“When the intelligence community would respond to a request from a senior national security official for the identity of an American, that would come back only to the person requested it, brought back to them directly,” she said. “To me, or to whoever might have requested it, on occasion, and this is important. It was not then typically broadly disseminated throughout the national security meeting or the government.”
“So the notion which some people are trying to suggest that by asking for the identity of an American person is the same thing as leaking it, that’s completely false,” Rice continued. “There’s no equivalence between so called unmasking and leaking.”
Susan Rice reminds me of the Three Stooges here (HB, OPie and their love child Jane), all you have to do is quote her and she gets confused, confuses her lies and then well, denies being caught in her lies.
Commonsense said... You know as ridiculous as the birther conspiracy theory is, there is actually more evidence for it than there is for the Russian collusion theory.
You are certifiable, mensa....Ridiculous, absurd, risible, fucking nutz is more apt and you saying even with you qualifying it, shows you forgot your meds today, like rat. Dayum, the trump was the creator of the movement and profited from it from stupid people like you. 42% R's still think obama was born overseas and 43% still think he is a muslim. Both lies that you support.
KD the troll said...... Susan Rice reminds me of the Three Stooges here (HB, OPie and their love child Jane)
And trump has his own crosses to bear.....like his lying, cheating and win at any cost. Brilliant commentary that the goat farmer thinks is profound. Idiot.
Roger Amick said... The story was discounted on every real news coverage."
And now Bloomberg News that first broke the story has again followed up on it, are they part of the vast right wingers Hillary was so fond of talking about.
Rice is taking the sword for this, to mask Obama's role.
Clearly.
Which story of Ms Rice do you want to stay with ALky, the one that she Sgt. Schultz when chatting up her gal pal Wooddruff of pBS, the one that she created a spreadsheet of unmasked names , the latest one that she admits she did have the unmasked Names of People in the Trump Campaign OR will you be moving to the NEXT lie ?
Pick one.
"Colt 45" Alky is always about the booze, damn Leacher and little illegal wife leach.
“The allegation is that somehow the Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, ” Obama's Rice told Andrea Mitchell. “That’s absolutely false.”
There it is, you know it is true , when she lies this big, this is as big as Benghazi lie.
Why did Obama order this unmasking, why did Rice need the data and why did both along with that other little step and fetch Farkas , have so little faith Hillary would WIN?
Rat you are doing a fine job with facts as the Three Liberal Stooges , well all they have is emotions .
Right wing stupidly This afternoon on MSNBC, Rice responded to the allegations. She said, “The allegation that somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that’s absolutely false,” adding that “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have and never would.” While Rice answered most of Mitchell’s questions in general terms, we need to go over this as carefully as we can, to make clear a simple point. Based on what we know so far, Susan Rice not only didn’t do anything wrong, she did exactly what we would expect of a national security adviser. Indeed, it would have been alarming if she didn’t do what we’re hearing she did. We start with a report yesterday from Bloomberg’s Eli Lake, who was told by sources in the Trump administration that “former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign.” This is referred to as “unmasking,” since ordinarily, when a U.S. person is picked up in surveillance of a foreign intelligence target, their identity is masked out of privacy concerns. For instance, the NSA might be recording the phone calls of the Russian ambassador, and if he calls an American friend and has an innocuous conversation, the identity of the American will be masked. It’s important to understand that “unmasking” doesn’t mean making the name public, or even making the name widely available to officials inside the government. It means that the official who made the request gets to see the name. High-ranking American officials can and do request the unmasking of U.S. persons in these reports if it’s relevant to national security. As Lake himself wrote: “The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice’s unmasking requests were likely within the law.” But it goes even farther than that. If Rice saw a report on conversations with foreign intelligence targets (whom we’re assuming are Russians, though we don’t yet know for sure) with the identities of the U.S. persons redacted, the content of those conversations had to have given her some reason for concern, something that suggested it would be important to know who those U.S. persons were. It wasn’t a random fishing expedition that just happened to land on associates of Donald Trump. If Rice saw a report saying that a Russian intelligence target “Placed call to U.S PERSON 1 and inquired as to when his dry cleaning would be ready,” she wouldn’t have cared who that person was, and she wouldn’t have requested the unmasking to find out.
Why it makes sense to outsource your healthcare cold chain A third-party logistics provider can save companies time and money when it comes to shipping temperature-sensitive products. y Yet conservatives are trying to convince people that the Obama administration set out to spy on the Trump team, an allegation for which there is zero evidence. Senator Rand Paul tweeted, “Smoking gun found! Obama pal and noted dissembler Susan Rice said to have been spying on Trump campaign.” Fox’s Tucker Carlson said to his audience, “What exactly were the Obama people doing spying on the Trump people?”, adding that “Our laws currently provide no serious protection to U.S. citizens from being spied upon for political reasons by their own government, and worse, it actually happens. In fact, it just happened, and that is the scandal here.” We can have a debate about the scope of the NSA’s surveillance authority, but we have to be clear about this: Susan Rice couldn’t have known that the foreign intelligence targets were speaking to Trump associates when she made the unmasking request, because their identities were masked. Unmasking enabled her to find out who they were. I suppose it’s possible that the content of the conversations made it obvious that the foreign intelligence target was speaking with a Trump associate, but at a time when the government was investigating Russian efforts to subvert our election, that would have made it even more urgent to know which Americans they were talking to.
Wait, HB , you told us this, yet your talking about IT, and it is afternoon of the morning you said this would be over with, what happened , get yet another prediction dead ass wrong?
. It's not and it will disappear by tomorrow morning" Alky 4-3-2017
"Did you seek the names of people involved, to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the people surrounding the President-elect in order to spy on them and expose them?” she was asked by MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell.
“Not for any political purposes,” Rice replied."
So she did, just in her mind not for political purposes.
“So the notion which some people are trying to suggest that by asking for the identity of an American person is the same thing as leaking it, that’s completely false,” Rice continued. “There’s no equivalence between so called unmasking and leaking.” __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
okay liar,
everyone knows the difference, and no one is making the claim that unmasking = leaking. first you ask, and THEN you leak. it's a two part process.
we are also very aware of your deputy who said this -
“All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus,” he said. “Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”
so yeah, for us to conclude that it was highly likely that you passed classified and damaging info to rhodes who would then leak it, it makes perfect sense and sounds entirely plausible.
rice is a lying piece of shit, rhodes is a lying piece of shit, and their boss - the great 0linsky - is the ultimate lying piece of shit.
President Trump today was roundly and repeatedly cheered at the White House as he talked about and took action on and for US Businesses and the workers.
Who was doing the cheering, well, Union Workers, the rank and file and Management. President Trump is good for Unions, they will be good for him in 2020.
Yet conservatives are trying to convince people that the Obama administration set out to spy on the Trump team, an allegation for which there is zero evidence.
You mean excepting for Rice ordering the unmasking of Trump operatives and requesting all intercepts of their communications.
Anonymous opie said... President Trump today was roundly and repeatedly cheered at the White House ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
ah, he must've overturned another one of 0linsky's executive orders.
This election was all about returning power to the people. I’ve spent my life working side-by-side with American builders, and now you have a builder as your President. (Applause.) One of my first acts as President was to stop one of the great sellouts of the American worker -- I immediately withdrew the United States from the disaster -- this would have been a disaster -- this would have been another NAFTA, which, by the way, is a disaster. I took you out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. (Applause.) Thank you. That one wasn’t even close. And you know it and I know it, everybody knows it.
Next, I cleared the way for the construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines. (Applause.) And it’s looking like that’s going to have about 42,000 jobs involved, those two jobs. That some number of great people. That’s a big, big, beautiful -- lot of people. And Sean actually, and a whole group joined me in the Oval Office when we approved the Keystone permit.(Applause".
Yeah, the same type of orders you and others kept calling illegal. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
yup, them's the one's d0pie.
that's how this works. skeets signs an illegal order, trump LEGALLY undoes it.
Yeah, the same type of orders you and others kept calling illegal. Sad how blind you are. " The Three Liberal Stooges
just damn.
Question for all here, do you invest like Roger/Opium/Jane, full of emotion, they all told us that the US Market was going to tank, they Took Paul Krugman to heart. 11/8/2016 18332.74 Dow Closed
Or do you invest wisely, with facts and analysts ? 4/4/2017 20,689.24 Dow Closed
For menstral boy who believed pizza gate....seems what little credibility he had is now up in smoke. Denial is what you do best, menstral child.
The author of the rice BS.....
Before the Rice story broke, Cernovich was best known as a leading promoter of the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, which claimed that a Washington, D.C., pizza establishment was the front for a pedophilia ring involving former Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.
The right are all dribbling down their legs as the Rice thing goes poooof...from the wa post
Which is why conservatives have been waiting so desperately for something, anything they can use to turn the story around to their advantage, no matter how ludicrous the arguments they make might be. And now they’ve found it.
And boy, are those arguments ever ludicrous. At this moment, the right wing media is going bonkers over reports that Susan Rice, who was national security adviser at the time, in 2016 requested the “unmasking” of certain U.S. persons who had been picked up in surveillance of foreign intelligence targets. Because those persons turned out to be associates of Donald Trump, conservatives have managed to twist this into the allegation that the Obama administration was “spying” on Trump and his campaign. Over at foxnews.com I count 11 separate articles about Rice on the home page. You can find similar screaming headlines at Breitbart, the Daily Caller, and all the other conservative sites — and don’t ask what’s happening on Twitter (if you want to get a taste of the lunacy, search #SusanRice).
Why the gleeful eruption of accusations? Certain conservative media already had their basic storyline, which is that the problem isn’t Russian meddling in our election, the problem is that somebody revealed Russian meddling in our election. That’s why, along with President Trump, they’re so outraged (or are at least pretending to be outraged) about leaks of the various investigations. But what they lacked was a single villain, and now they have one, someone they hated already and on whom they can focus all their considerable venom.
If it was anyone other than an intelligence analyst who by necessity needed to know the identity of the Trump staffer in order to understand the intelligence, then it was released inappropriately.
BTW, remember that successful Syrian deal touted by Obama and his minions here?
"Britain, France and Turkey joined Washington in condemning the attack, which they also attributed to Mr. Assad’s government. The United Nations Security Council was scheduled to be briefed on the attack on Wednesday.
One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Syrian government since President Trump took office, it poses a potential policy dilemma for the administration, which would like to shift the focus in Syria entirely to fighting the Islamic State."
But amid all those lies, told to ourselves and to one another in order to amass power, woo lovers, hurt enemies and shield ourselves against the often glaring discomfort of reality, humanity has always had an abiding respect for truth.
In the United States, born and periodically reborn out of the repeated recognition and rejection of the age-old lie that some people are meant to take dominion over others, truth is as vital a part of the civic, social and intellectual culture as justice and liberty. Our civilization is premised on the conviction that such a thing as truth exists, that it is knowable, that it is verifiable, that it exists independently of authority or popularity and that at some point — and preferably sooner rather than later — it will prevail.
Even American leaders who lie generally know the difference between their statements and the truth. Richard Nixon said “I am not a crook” but by that point must have seen that he was. Bill Clinton said “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” but knew that he did.
“ He targets the darkness, anger and insecurity that hide in each of us and harnesses them for his own purposes. The insult that Donald Trump brings to the equation is an apparent disregard for fact so profound as to suggest that he may not see much practical distinction between lies, if he believes they serve him, and the truth.
His approach succeeds because of his preternaturally deft grasp of his audience. Though he is neither terribly articulate nor a seasoned politician, he has a remarkable instinct for discerning which conspiracy theories in which quasi-news source, or which of his own inner musings, will turn into ratings gold. He targets the darkness, anger and insecurity that hide in each of us and harnesses them for his own purposes. If one of his lies doesn’t work — well, then he lies about that. If we harbor latent racism or if we fear terror attacks by Muslim extremists, then he elevates a rumor into a public debate: Was Barack Obama born in Kenya, and is he therefore not really president?
If his own ego is threatened — if broadcast footage and photos show a smaller-sized crowd at his inauguration than he wanted — then he targets the news media, falsely charging outlets with disseminating “fake news” and insisting, against all evidence, that he has proved his case (“We caught them in a beauty,” he said).
If his attempt to limit the number of Muslim visitors to the U.S. degenerates into an absolute fiasco and a display of his administration’s incompetence, then he falsely asserts that terrorist attacks are underreported. (One case in point offered by the White House was the 2015 attack in San Bernardino, which in fact received intensive worldwide news coverage. The Los Angeles Times won a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on the subject).
If he detects that his audience may be wearying of his act, or if he worries about a probe into Russian meddling into the election that put him in office, he tweets in the middle of the night the astonishingly absurd claim that President Obama tapped his phones. And when evidence fails to support him he dispatches his aides to explain that by “phone tapping” he obviously didn’t mean phone tapping. Instead of backing down when confronted with reality, he insists that his rebutted assertions will be vindicated as true at some point in the future.
Trump’s easy embrace of untruth can sometimes be entertaining, in the vein of a Moammar Kadafi speech to the United Nations or the self-serving blathering of a 6-year-old.
“ He gives every indication that he is as much the gullible tool of liars as he is the liar in chief. ”
But he is not merely amusing. He is dangerous. His choice of falsehoods and his method of spewing them — often in tweets, as if he spent his days and nights glued to his bedside radio and was periodically set off by some drivel uttered by a talk show host who repeated something he’d read on some fringe blog — are a clue to Trump’s thought processes and perhaps his lack of agency. He gives every indication that he is as much the gullible tool of liars as he is the liar in chief.
Trump never takes the blame for anything. He's the President, to our regret, so he should once in a while and say something true. But this isn't one of them..
A suspected chemical attack killed dozens of people in a rebel-held area of Syria on Tuesday, activists said. At least 83 people -- including 25 children -- died and at least 350 others were injured in the incident in northern Idlib province, southwest of Aleppo, the relief agency UOSSM told NBC News. President Trump said the attack was "reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world." He blamed it on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Obama administration's "weakness and irresolution" to act after initially citing the use of chemical weapons as a "red line."
After eight long years of the two-bit community organizer blaming W for everything but the bubonic plague, you MUST be liquored up to bitch about Trump.
One question for you folks. You attacked Rice and said because she has lied in the past and therefor cannot be trusted in what she said in this interview.
It has been 75 days since Trump tweeted and accused Obama of a felony and wire tapping the Golden Castle. There is no doubt to anyone who has a brain knows that it's not true
Nether was his claim on crowd size
Or his claim that three million illegals, all voted for Clinton in several states. You know it's not true.
But you trust him, and don't trust Rice Give me a beak. Be honest or once. Is it for Trump to lie, as long as he's attacking Democrats?
President Trump's approval rating has fallen to 35%, according to a new poll released Tuesday.
The Quinnipiac University national poll found that his approval rating had dropped 2% since March 22, the last time it released its results. The percentage of total voters who did not approve was 57%.
According to the poll, Republicans were the only group that the president wasn't struggling with; they gave him an approval rating of 79% and a disapproval rating of 14%.
But among other groups, Trump didn't do as well:
Independents disapproved of the president's performance 57%, compared to 32% who approved Democrats disapproved 91%, compared to 6% Men disapproved 51%, compared to 39% Women disapproved 63%, compared to 31% White voters disapproved 48%, compared to 43% Non-white voters disapproved 77%, compared to 16%
"President Donald Trump continues to struggle, even among his most loyal supporters," Tim Malloy, assistant director of the poll, said in a statement. "Many of them would be hard pressed to see even a sliver of a silver lining in this troubling downward spiral."
He noted that President George W. Bush hit a low 28% approval rating, but it took much of his time in office to get there.
A suspected chemical attack killed dozens of people in a rebel-held area of Syria on Tuesday, activists said. At least 83 people -- including 25 children -- died and at least 350 others were injured in the incident in northern Idlib province, southwest of Aleppo, the relief agency UOSSM told NBC News. President Trump said the attack was "reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world." He blamed it on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Obama administration's "weakness and irresolution" to act after initially citing the use of chemical weapons as a "red line."
Do you know what Mr Trump said in reaction to the Obama inability to act? In a tweet, of course, said this, and it is a quote.
President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your "power" for another (and important) day!
Paul, you should know better. Alcoholism is a disease, per the AMA.
Weak people who are alcoholics, who can't or don't want to stop.
Accepting that you can't do it yourself, takes strength and courage. I found that to be the biggest problem I had. I reminded humble and it got me almost five years.
But you trust him, and don't trust Rice Give me a beak. Be honest or once. Is it for Trump to lie, as long as he's attacking Democrats? _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
if only the examples you cite that have you all wee-wee'd up were important, but they're not.
you keep coming back to these three "lies" as if they had some paramount level of seriousness. they don't.
wiretap claims? who knows? considering what a hackish piece of shit your dear leader is, and what a pathological liar rice has been proven to be, is the claim plausible?
absolutely and without a doubt.
inaugural crowd size?
big. fucking. deal. as significant as a pimple on a gnats ass. yet you obsess over it. says more about you and the left than trump.
3 million illegal beaners casting a ballot? i'm sure many did, however 3 million seems high. but again, you obsess over this and it impacts exactly NO ONE.
now then, compare and contrast trump's lies, embellishments and exaggerations to rice's EGREGIOUS LIES. lies that were told to deceive, told to do actual harm, told to cover for incompetence that actually did get people killed, told to make the worst president of the modern era look good when the truth of his presidential performance is anything but.
rice told lies to distract from american patriots being murdered in actual planned terror attacks, she told lies to excuse a traitorous deserter, and as we learned just yesterday she lied to cover for her former boss, who, through sheer cowardice and incompetence, got people killed by the assad regime with weapons she had said were eliminated:
Jan 16, 2017 - We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons ...
only a pussy hat wearing nit wit who needs the ama to classify his personal failure as a disease could find moral equivalence between trump's boastful embellishments and rice's actual deadly lies.
go back to the alky blog and re-format your last copy/paste. i looked in on that steaming shitpile this morning just to see how unhinged you've become. so you got a page view out of me. you're welcome.
not and it will disappear by tomorrow morning, except on The Drudge Report. The major source of posts here.
April 3, 2017 at 11:13 PM"
And yet Bloomberg and ABC (the two I checked) have this in their top three stories for this morning, two days later then Old Alky Grifter said it would be gone.
IF we ever what to know for sure what to do, read Alky Post and do the reverse.
Donald Trump has the lowest polling numbers in history.
Independents disapproved of the president's performance 57%, compared to 32% who approved
Democrats disapproved 91%, 6%Men disapproved 51%, Independents disapproved of the president's performance 57%, compared to 32% who approved Democrats disapproved 91%, compared to 6% Men disapproved 51%, compared to 39% Women disapproved 63%, compared to 31% White voters disapproved 48%, compared to 43% Non-white voters disapproved 77%, compared to compared to 16%
"President Donald Trump continues to struggle, even among his most loyal supporters," Tim Malloy, assistant director of the poll, said in a statement. "Many of them would be hard pressed to see even a sliver of a silver lining in this troubling downward spiral."
He noted that President George W. Bush hit a low 28% approval rating, but it took much of his time in office to get there.
KD, Roger Krugman Down off 600 Nov 9th , 2016
said...
Here Alky Let me help you with polling.
337 Electorial votes is what you thought Hillary would sweep into Office with, where is she now, still riding those HIGH poll numbers.
IF we applied your illogic polls run the nation, she would be President.
However , Votes matter and she is not.
The Unions loved President Trump yesterday , he thanked them for their voting for him, in return he works for them.
I know what an Idea, the President is up early , puts in a full days work plus and does it all for WE THE PEOPLE.
Did you see he donated 80 K to the US Parks Department, will Hillary Match that, you know she loves to talk about being for the Parks, or is that only when she uses OPM?
Secretary of State Tillerson on the North Korea's missile launch.
"North Korea launched yet another intermediate range ballistic missile. The United States has spoken enough about North Korea. We have no other comments."
A competent President would have met with his Secretary of State and Defense, to discuss our options on this very dangerous situation. Instead he spoke to a crowd of construction business leaders and unionized constitution workers.
And once again claimed that his 306 electoral college victory was the greatest in the last century.
News reports have started that the leading up North Korea is "desperate" to hold onto control.
He is meeting with with the Prime minister of China on Thursday.
Once again watched television and tweeted about how much the Fake News, is not fair to him. And a statement attacking President Obama. He is dangerous. Yet all you have are posting racist comments, and repeating your love for him.
OMG Funny, President Trump Takes the time to have a nice big meeting with Union Workers , rank and file and Management and yep, you got it, Roger Krugman is tear dropping.
"Instead he spoke to a crowd of construction business leaders and unionized constitution workers."
I know this is killing the left having lost the Presidency in part because of the Union Voters , Voting for Trump, he now took the time to thank them and work WITH them for a better, wealthier and Prosperous America. He is locking down the Union Voter.
Donald Trump is not going to be able to accomplish his signature issue, health care. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Blogger Commonsense said... Racist comments about Rice?
Boy Roger, you're following the leftist playbook page by page. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
that was the MSDNC spin last night, so we were assured that the alky was going to parrot it today.
i've been living in his head rent free for ever, and i can assure you that the inside of this gin soaked skull full of mush hasn't seen an original thought in ages.
A competent President would have met with his Secretary of State and Defense, to discuss our options on this very dangerous situation. _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
you couldn't manage to keep from drinking your liver to the verge of total collapse but somehow you fancy yourself a foreign policy strategerist?
Another terrible day in mudville as trump strikes out accusing Rice of a crime....dumping bannon on his ass another NK test, more kids killed in syria.....let's see him multitask this mess.
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Nothing to see here either, said the donald... Just another fake fact that keeps pointing at something was going on. Rice is just another distraction for the weak minded.
Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page confirmed he passed documents to a Russian spy in 2013 but the information was not sensitive, BuzzFeed reported Monday. Page, an energy consultant, met with Russian intelligence agent Victor Podobnyy at a January 2013 energy conference in New York as the SVR agent tried to recruit Page.
Podobnyy and two others have been charged in absentia by the U.S. government for acting as unregistered foreign agents. A court filing includes a transcript in which Podobnyy talks with Igor Sporyshev, who was busted as a member of a Russian spy ring, about trying to recruit someone identified only as “Male-1,” whom BuzzFeed confirmed was Page.
Read: Lawmakers Say Too Early To Consider Immunity For Michael Flynn’s Testimony
Podobnyy ridicules Page’s interest in making a deal with Russian energy giant Gazprom, calling him an “idiot” and saying he would promise “favor for favor” to Page and then renege. Page emailed Podobnyy “documents … about the energy business,” BuzzFeed said.
The court filing said Page was interviewed in June 2013 by FBI counterintelligence agents.
Both Podobnyy and Sporyshev had diplomatic immunity and left the U.S. A third man, Evgeny Buryakov, who did not have diplomatic cover, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 30 months in prison.
An opposition research dossier compiled by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele said Moscow had sought to build relationships with certain people in the U.S., including Page. The dossier contained unconfirmed reports of Trump’s sexual escapades, ties to Russia and financial dealings.
Page earlier told BuzzFeed in a messaging app he may have had inadvertent contact with Russian intelligence but would never have broken the law.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-adviser-carter
buzzfeed?
LOL.
those assclowns pissed away their last shred of credibility with their golden shower dossier.
Page was never accused during the Buryakov case of having been successfully recruited or of spying. FBI agents say in the court record that they interviewed “Male-1” in June 2013. During the interview, Page described how he and the man identified as a Russian recruiter, Victor Podobnyy, met periodically and exchanged emails about the energy industry, but nothing in the court document suggests that Page shared any sensitive information with Podobnyy. Rather, it appears they spoke in much the way business executives seeking opportunities do – with Page touting his work ties to the Russian energy firm Gazprom. The Russians were heard laughing, saying Page had no idea they were government agents.
The FBI said “Male-1” provided the Russians his “outlook on the current and future of the energy industry” and “also provided documents … about the energy business.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-advisor-carter-page-targeted-russian-spies/story?id=46557506
buzzfeed.
heh.
assholes.
Trump Winning Bigly.
The US Stock Market since his election is strong.
China exports are down in the USA, that is a very good thing.
US Exports balance sheet improved each month Trump has been president
US GDP for this year is expected to come in at 2.1% maybe more.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Just the facts, twit. I noted that several of you said I wasn't going to address this, because they believed that it was a huge story. It's not and it will disappear by tomorrow morning, except on The Drudge Report. The major source of posts here.
April 3, 2017 at 11:13 PM"
Old stupid Alky, wrong yet again.
Oh geez.
"I love the way the messaging turns on a dime.
One minute it's ridiculous to think that the Obama administration was doing surveillance on the Trump campaign. The next minute the Obama administration was doing the right thing if it did surveillance on the Trump campaign."
http://althouse.blogspot.ru/2017/04/i-hope-susan-rice-was-keeping-tabs-on.html
The story was discounted on every real news coverage.
Rick Klein and Shushannah Walshe:
"...the White House has spent much of the past month seeking to justify a presidential tweet that the FBI director himself has said has no basis in evidence. President Obama still did not order his successor to be wiretapped.”
Roger Amick said...
The story was discounted on every real news coverage.
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unreported does not = discounted.
rice's husband is an abc exec news producer. rice's deputy, the failed novelist ben rhodes has a brother who's president of cBS news.
all the hacks in the praetorian guard have circled the wagons to protect dear leader.
and your gin soaked anal-ysis doesn't change a thing.
I just looked at CBS, NBS and ABC web pages, all three have it front page.
Alky, like most ever real issue, you are really wrong, again.
Bullshit
CNN GOES ON RAMPAGE AGAINST SUSAN RICE BOMBSHELL, INSTRUCTS VIEWERS TO IGNORE STORY
'We will not aid and abet the people trying to misinform you'
https://news.grabien.com/story-cnn-goes-rampage-against-susan-rice-bombshell-instructs-view
"and your gin soaked anal-ysis doesn't change a thing."
The day I take Roger, the drunkard seriously...
The day I take a pedophile "pastor" seriously...
The day I take Opie, the fat stalker seriously...
...is the day I should be euthanized.
🍻
"Susan Rice denies exposing the names of Trump staffers under gov surveillance. She claims it was a YouTube video that exposed the names."
—Twitter satirist @weknowwhatsbest
https://youtu.be/pl_RATH89UM
Now it has emerged that at on October 26, 2016, Farkas made remarks as a panelist at the annual Warsaw Security Forum predicting Trump’s removal from office “pretty quickly.”
Asked at the event to address the priorities of a future Hillary Clinton administration, Farkas stated:
It’s not a done deal, as you said. And so, to the Americans in the audience please vote. And not only vote but get everybody to vote. Because I really believe we need a landslide. We need an absolute repudiation of everything. All of the policies that Donald Trump has put out there. I am not afraid to be political. I am not hiding who I am rooting for. And I think it’s very important that we continue to press forward until election day and through election day to make sure that we have the right results.
I do agree however with General Breedlove that even if we have the wrong results from my perspective America is resilient. We have a lot of presidential historians who have put forward very coherent the argument – they have given us examples of all of our horrible presidents in the past and the fact that we have endured. And we do have a strong system of checks and balances.
And actually, if Donald Trump were elected I believe he would be impeached pretty quickly or somebody else would have to take over government. And I am not even joking.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/04/video-ex-obama-staffer-who-urged-spying-on-trump-predicted-quick-impeachment-weeks-before-election/
rb said...
buzzfeed?
Hot air///// That's all you got again, nothing I see. LOL What about anything trump says??????
Now it has emerged that at on October 26, 2016, Farkas made remarks as a panelist at the annual Warsaw Security Forum predicting Trump’s removal from office “pretty quickly.
Hope she's correct. His ego would be shattered.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/3/juan-williams-boards-impeachment-fantasy-train/
http://althouse.blogspot.ru/
A ru source used by our rat for proof.... Dayum funny if you ask me. Very impressive creds for a blogger, puts ch to shame. !!!!!
About Ann Althouse.
Ann Althouse has been blogging since January 14, 2004, and her blog has been called “Althouse” since January 15, 2004.
Born in Wilmington, Delaware. She’s been living in Madison, Wisconsin since 1984 when she began teaching at the University of Wisconsin Law School, where she was a law professor for many years and is now a professor emerita.
She’s married to Laurence Meade, and you can read about how they met — through blogging — in The New York Times.
You know as ridiculous as the birther conspiracy theory is, there is actually more evidence for it than there is for the Russian collusion theory.
Congratulations liberals, you're more whacked out than the birthers.
That's quite an accomplishment.
I for one am absolutely fed up with the media.
Imagine if this was reversed. Anyone think the coverage would be different?
Rice destroyed the every accusation.
I watched live. I don't need Breitbart to think for me, like you all do.
We will give you a Colt .45
We will give you a Colt .45
Not to put too fine a point on it, but Susan Rice is a deeply unpopular figure with our Intelligence Community. Her abrasive personality and overall incompetence grated on the IC. Her habitually coarse language was inflicted on senior intelligence officials more than once, while nobody outside Obama’s inner circle considered Rice even marginally competent at her job. Simply put, she was the worst National Security Adviser in American history—at least until Mike Flynn’s dismally failed three-week tenure.
In addition, Rice didn’t like to play by the rules, including the top-secret ones. On multiple occasions, she asked the NSA to do things they regarded as unethical and perhaps illegal. When she was turned down—the NSA fears breaking laws for any White House, since they know they will be left holding the bag in the end—Rice kept pushing.
As a longtime NSA official who experienced Rice’s wrath more than once told me, “We tried to tell her to pound sand on some things, but it wasn’t allowed—we were always overruled.” On multiple occasions, Rice got top Agency leadership to approve things which NSA personnel on the front end of the spy business refused. This means there may be something Congress and the FBI need to investigate here.
John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.
http://observer.com/2017/04/nsa-susan-rice-donald-trump/
Rice destroyed the every accusation.
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“I leaked nothing to nobody."
even in her native vernacular, she hardly destroyed the accusation.
point of fact - you're dealing with the one person who is recognized as the most accomplished liar, and least trustworthy from the prior regime.
her lies around benghazi and bergdahl are epic.
"dint do nuffin" just doesn't cut it. especially with THIS particular pathological liar.
Phil Kerpen ✔ @kerpen
Among English speakers, "I leaked nothing to nobody" means "I leaked something to everybody.
"http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/susan-rice-speaks-out-unmasking-accusations-i-leaked-nothing-nobody-n742486?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma …
Rice said her senior White House role did give her the ability to request the names of Americans swept up through U.S. spy craft. But she would not say whether she saw intelligence on President Donald Trump's associates or whether she asked for their identities, saying that information would be classified.
According to a U.S. official, Trump national security aides discovered after the inauguration that Rice asked that the identities of the Republican's advisers be "unmasked." To Trump backers, the revelations are evidence that the Obama administration was surveilling the incoming administration for political purposes.
"There is a troubling direction that some of this is going in," White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday.
The White House has tried to use the allegations of politically-motivated spying to shift focus away from the FBI and congressional investigations into possible Trump campaign ties to Russia. Trump launched the first salvo last month when he tweeted that Obama had wiretapped his New York skyscraper, an explosive allegation that senior intelligence and law enforcement officials have denied.
The U.S. official said Trump's National Security Council began an intelligence policy review after the inauguration that included looking into how widely raw intelligence and the names of Americans were disseminated. Rice's unmasking requests were found during that review, according to the official, who insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the sensitive information.
After viewing the findings, the White House counsel's office told the NSC to stop the review and not conduct an independent investigation into whether there was improper handling of intelligence.
The U.S. routinely monitors the communications of foreigners. The identities of Americans who talk with those foreigners, or who are discussed in conversations between two non-U.S. persons, are hidden in intelligence reports. However, senior national security officials can request the identities of the Americans if that helps understand the intelligence better.MSNBC
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Rice destroyed the every accusation.
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oh, and now we are safe in our assertion that rice lied to NPR on this topic two weeks ago.
so there's that.
On "PBS NewsHour" on March 22, Judy Woodruff asked Rice about Nunes' claims.
"I know nothing about this," Rice responded at the time. "I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that count today."
"So, today, I really don't know to what Chairman Nunes was referring, but he said that whatever he was referring to was a legal, lawful surveillance, and that it was potentially incidental collection on American citizens," added Rice, who went on to criticize Trump for his accusation that Obama wiretapped him during the presidential campaign.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/flashback-susan-rice-said-i-know-nothing-unmasking-trump-officials/
LIE.
However, senior national security officials can request the identities of the Americans if that helps understand the intelligence better.MSNBC
How many ways does MSNBC get it wrong in one sentence?
First, it's not "if it helps understand", it's if necessary to understand. It's not "senior national security officials", its one person under Presidential authority. And it's not a "request" so much as a Presidential directive.
How many ways does MSNBC get it wrong in one sentence?
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that's why i watch it, wp.
MSDNC is funnier that 'the daily show' by several orders of magnitude.
and the best part? they take themselves SO seriously.
No names were released to the public. If a public figure spoke to a Russian, he was informed, not exposed to anyone outside the intelligence agencies.
No wiretapping, President cannot order it.
She shredded your sorry asses.
Understand: There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked. If there had been a real need to reveal the identities — an intelligence need based on American interests — the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.
The national-security adviser is not an investigator. She is a White House staffer. The president’s staff is a consumer of intelligence, not a generator or collector of it. If Susan Rice was unmasking Americans, it was not to fulfill an intelligence need based on American interests; it was to fulfill a political desire based on Democratic-party interests.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446415/susan-rice-unmasking-trump-campaign-members-obama-administration-fbi-cia-nsa?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mccarthy&utm_content=susan-rice
Roger Amick said...
No names were released to the public.
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mike flynn's name was released to david ignatius at the WaPo.
It appears very likely that Susan Rice was involved in the unmasking of Michael Flynn. Was she also monitoring the FBI’s investigation? Was she involved in the administration’s consideration of (bogus) criminal charges against Flynn? With the subsequent decision to have the FBI interrogate Flynn (or “grill” him, as the Times put it)?
The second point is that, while not a pillar of rectitude, Ms. Rice is not an idiot. Besides being shrewd, she was a highly involved, highly informed consumer of intelligence, and a key Obama political collaborator. Unlike the casual reader, she would have known who the Trump-team players were without needing to have their identities unmasked. Do you really think her purpose in demanding that names be revealed was to enhance her understanding of intelligence about the activities and intentions of foreign targets? Seriously? I’m betting it was so that others down the dissemination chain could see the names of Trump associates — names the investigating agencies that originally collected the information had determined not to unmask.
Third, and finally, let’s consider the dissemination chain Rice had in mind.
The most telling remark that former Obama deputy defense secretary Evelyn Farkas made in her now-infamous MSNBC interview was the throw-away line at the end: “That’s why you have all the leaking.”
Put this in context: Farkas had left the Obama administration in 2015, subsequently joining the presidential campaign of, yes, Hillary Clinton — Trump’s opponent. She told MSNBC that she had been encouraging her former Obama-administration colleagues and members of Congress to seek “as much information as you can” from the intelligence community.
“That’s why you have the leaking.”
To summarize: At a high level, officials like Susan Rice had names unmasked that would not ordinarily be unmasked. That information was then being pushed widely throughout the intelligence community in unmasked form . . . particularly after Obama, toward the end of his presidency, suddenly — and seemingly apropos of nothing — changed the rules so that all of the intelligence agencies (not just the collecting agencies) could have access to raw intelligence information.
As we know, the community of intelligence agencies leaks like a sieve, and the more access there is to juicy information, the more leaks there are. Meanwhile, former Obama officials and Clinton-campaign advisers, like Farkas, were pushing to get the information transferred from the intelligence community to members of Congress, geometrically increasing the likelihood of intelligence leaks.
By the way, have you noticed that there have been lots of intelligence leaks in the press?
There’s an old saying in the criminal law: The best evidence of a conspiracy is success.
The criminal law also has another good rule of thumb: Consciousness of guilt is best proved by false exculpatory statements. That’s a genre in which Susan Rice has rich experience.
Two weeks ago, she was asked in an interview about allegations by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R., Calif.) that the Obama administration had unmasked Trump-team members.
“I know nothing about this,” Rice replied. “I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that count today.”
Well, at least she didn’t blame it on a video.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446415/susan-rice-unmasking-trump-campaign-members-obama-administration-fbi-cia-nsa?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mccarthy&utm_content=susan-rice
she shredded nothing and no one. except the last remaining molecules of her own credibility.
"dint doo nuffin" is hardly a credible defense.
but please, keep going alky. it's always fun watching you defend the indefensible.
More BS coming from donnie....Does he really think all americans are stupid as his base????? Just look around here and the way you fawn over every piece of BS he puts out...
WASHINGTON, April 4 (Reuters) - The White House on Tuesday blamed a deadly chemical weapons attack in Syria's Idlib province on the government of President Bashar al-Assad and said the incident was "reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world."
"These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the last administration's weakness and irresolution," White House spokesman Sean Spicer told a briefing. "President Obama said in 2012 that he would establish a 'red line' against the use of chemical weapons and
"dint doc nuffin" is hardly a credible defense.
And you saying she's has no credibility means less than squat....
"These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the last administration's weakness and irresolution," White House spokesman Sean Spicer told a briefing. "President Obama said in 2012 that he would establish a 'red line' against the use of chemical weapons and...
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...and skeets sat there with his thumb in his ass while pooty poot did donuts on the white house lawn.
National review opinion means just that. Opinion.
It appears very likely that Susan Rice was involved in the unmasking of Michael Flynn.
Let me know, even if she did link flynn's name, how does that change him being the lying snitch who hid lots of payments from the russians or whether it changes the basis of the current Rump investigations. Again, all you are doing is parroting what Rump wants you to believe and change the subject. AIn't gonna work.
Former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice said Tuesday that she never leaked classified information to the press, and that she did not make any requests to unmask the identities of U.S. persons in intelligence reports for political purposes.
“Did you seek the names of people involved, to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the people surrounding the President-elect in order to spy on them and expose them?” she was asked by MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell.
“Not for any political purposes,” Rice replied.
“Did you leak the name of Mike Flynn?” Trump’s ousted national security adviser, Mitchell asked.
“I leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would,” Rice said.
Bloomberg View columnist Eli Lake and Fox News reported Monday, citing anonymous officials, that Rice asked the intelligence community to unmask names in several intelligence reports involving foreign nationals discussing the Trump campaign and between Trump staffers and foreign nationals who were being surveilled by the U.S. government.
President Trump’s defenders seized on those reports as evidence that the Obama administration, led by Rice, was spying on the Trump transition team for political purposes.
Rice told Mitchell there was “not anything political” going on. She said unmasking requests, which must be approved by intelligence officials, were sometimes necessary to get the proper “context” for intercepted conversations in the intelligence reports provided to her.
“Sometimes in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request the information as to who the U.S. official was,” Rice said.
National security experts who have worked on foreign surveillance cases backed up this explanation, saying it was within Rice’s purview as national security adviser to monitor what foreign governments and actors are doing.
The names of unmasked individuals are provided only to the individual that requested them, Rice said, denying reports from the Daily Caller and Breitbart News that she ordered the production of “spreadsheets” containing the names of all the Trump staffers caught up in incidental collection.
“When the intelligence community would respond to a request from a senior national security official for the identity of an American, that would come back only to the person requested it, brought back to them directly,” she said. “To me, or to whoever might have requested it, on occasion, and this is important. It was not then typically broadly disseminated throughout the national security meeting or the government.”
“So the notion which some people are trying to suggest that by asking for the identity of an American person is the same thing as leaking it, that’s completely false,” Rice continued. “There’s no equivalence between so called unmasking and leaking.”
“Did you leak the name of Mike Flynn?” Trump’s ousted national security adviser, Mitchell asked.
“I leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would,” Rice said.
Susan Rice reminds me of the Three Stooges here (HB, OPie and their love child Jane), all you have to do is quote her and she gets confused, confuses her lies and then well, denies being caught in her lies.
Commonsense said...
You know as ridiculous as the birther conspiracy theory is, there is actually more evidence for it than there is for the Russian collusion theory.
You are certifiable, mensa....Ridiculous, absurd, risible, fucking nutz is more apt and you saying even with you qualifying it, shows you forgot your meds today, like rat. Dayum, the trump was the creator of the movement and profited from it from stupid people like you. 42% R's still think obama was born overseas and 43% still think he is a muslim. Both lies that you support.
KD the troll said......
Susan Rice reminds me of the Three Stooges here (HB, OPie and their love child Jane)
And trump has his own crosses to bear.....like his lying, cheating and win at any cost. Brilliant commentary that the goat farmer thinks is profound. Idiot.
Roger Amick said...
The story was discounted on every real news coverage."
And now Bloomberg News that first broke the story has again followed up on it, are they part of the vast right wingers Hillary was so fond of talking about.
Rice is taking the sword for this, to mask Obama's role.
Clearly.
Which story of Ms Rice do you want to stay with ALky, the one that she Sgt. Schultz when chatting up her gal pal Wooddruff of pBS, the one that she created a spreadsheet of unmasked names , the latest one that she admits she did have the unmasked Names of People in the Trump Campaign OR will you be moving to the NEXT lie ?
Pick one.
"Colt 45" Alky is always about the booze, damn Leacher and little illegal wife leach.
“The allegation is that somehow the Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, ” Obama's Rice told Andrea Mitchell. “That’s absolutely false.”
There it is, you know it is true , when she lies this big, this is as big as Benghazi lie.
Why did Obama order this unmasking, why did Rice need the data and why did both along with that other little step and fetch Farkas , have so little faith Hillary would WIN?
Rat you are doing a fine job with facts as the Three Liberal Stooges , well all they have is emotions .
alky,
i need no more convincing that you would bitterly cling to the words of a renowned pathological liar.
the only question i have is - will she carry on her tradition of lying on every sunday news show this week?
that seems to be her forte`.
Right wing stupidly
This afternoon on MSNBC, Rice responded to the allegations. She said, “The allegation that somehow Obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that’s absolutely false,” adding that “I leaked nothing to nobody, and never have and never would.”
While Rice answered most of Mitchell’s questions in general terms, we need to go over this as carefully as we can, to make clear a simple point. Based on what we know so far, Susan Rice not only didn’t do anything wrong, she did exactly what we would expect of a national security adviser. Indeed, it would have been alarming if she didn’t do what we’re hearing she did.
We start with a report yesterday from Bloomberg’s Eli Lake, who was told by sources in the Trump administration that “former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign.” This is referred to as “unmasking,” since ordinarily, when a U.S. person is picked up in surveillance of a foreign intelligence target, their identity is masked out of privacy concerns. For instance, the NSA might be recording the phone calls of the Russian ambassador, and if he calls an American friend and has an innocuous conversation, the identity of the American will be masked.
It’s important to understand that “unmasking” doesn’t mean making the name public, or even making the name widely available to officials inside the government. It means that the official who made the request gets to see the name. High-ranking American officials can and do request the unmasking of U.S. persons in these reports if it’s relevant to national security. As Lake himself wrote: “The standard for senior officials to learn the names of U.S. persons incidentally collected is that it must have some foreign intelligence value, a standard that can apply to almost anything. This suggests Rice’s unmasking requests were likely within the law.”
But it goes even farther than that. If Rice saw a report on conversations with foreign intelligence targets (whom we’re assuming are Russians, though we don’t yet know for sure) with the identities of the U.S. persons redacted, the content of those conversations had to have given her some reason for concern, something that suggested it would be important to know who those U.S. persons were. It wasn’t a random fishing expedition that just happened to land on associates of Donald Trump. If Rice saw a report saying that a Russian intelligence target “Placed call to U.S PERSON 1 and inquired as to when his dry cleaning would be ready,” she wouldn’t have cared who that person was, and she wouldn’t have requested the unmasking to find out.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/04/04/the-right-wing-media-attacks-on-susan-rice-are-absurd/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.7a72110be42a
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Yet conservatives are trying to convince people that the Obama administration set out to spy on the Trump team, an allegation for which there is zero evidence. Senator Rand Paul tweeted, “Smoking gun found! Obama pal and noted dissembler Susan Rice said to have been spying on Trump campaign.” Fox’s Tucker Carlson said to his audience, “What exactly were the Obama people doing spying on the Trump people?”, adding that “Our laws currently provide no serious protection to U.S. citizens from being spied upon for political reasons by their own government, and worse, it actually happens. In fact, it just happened, and that is the scandal here.”
We can have a debate about the scope of the NSA’s surveillance authority, but we have to be clear about this: Susan Rice couldn’t have known that the foreign intelligence targets were speaking to Trump associates when she made the unmasking request, because their identities were masked. Unmasking enabled her to find out who they were. I suppose it’s possible that the content of the conversations made it obvious that the foreign intelligence target was speaking with a Trump associate, but at a time when the government was investigating Russian efforts to subvert our election, that would have made it even more urgent to know which Americans they were talking to.
Wait, HB , you told us this, yet your talking about IT, and it is afternoon of the morning you said this would be over with, what happened , get yet another prediction dead ass wrong?
. It's not and it will disappear by tomorrow morning" Alky 4-3-2017
Darn you are one stupid leach.
"Did you seek the names of people involved, to unmask the names of people involved in the Trump transition, the people surrounding the President-elect in order to spy on them and expose them?” she was asked by MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell.
“Not for any political purposes,” Rice replied."
So she did, just in her mind not for political purposes.
rrb said...
"cling to the words of a renowned pathological liar"
As you cling to every piece of BS that comes from the WH????? Sure, rat, he's got you!!!!!
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“So the notion which some people are trying to suggest that by asking for the identity of an American person is the same thing as leaking it, that’s completely false,” Rice continued. “There’s no equivalence between so called unmasking and leaking.”
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okay liar,
everyone knows the difference, and no one is making the claim that unmasking = leaking. first you ask, and THEN you leak. it's a two part process.
we are also very aware of your deputy who said this -
“All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus,” he said. “Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”
so yeah, for us to conclude that it was highly likely that you passed classified and damaging info to rhodes who would then leak it, it makes perfect sense and sounds entirely plausible.
rice is a lying piece of shit, rhodes is a lying piece of shit, and their boss - the great 0linsky - is the ultimate lying piece of shit.
you forgot the OP/ED link alky:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/04/04/the-right-wing-media-attacks-on-susan-rice-are-absurd/?utm_term=.1c7e041af111
give waldman the hack the credit he's due.
President Trump today was roundly and repeatedly cheered at the White House as he talked about and took action on and for US Businesses and the workers.
Who was doing the cheering, well, Union Workers, the rank and file and Management. President Trump is good for Unions, they will be good for him in 2020.
Loretta the hack said...
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Yet conservatives are trying to convince people that the Obama administration set out to spy on the Trump team, an allegation for which there is zero evidence.
You mean excepting for Rice ordering the unmasking of Trump operatives and requesting all intercepts of their communications.
President Trump today was roundly and repeatedly cheered at the White House
Wow, impressive he got a round of applause at the white house!!! Should be front page news instead of on this blog, doncha think???
"rice is a lying piece of shit, rhodes is a lying piece of shit, and their boss - the great 0linsky - is the ultimate lying piece of shit."
Evelyn Farkas.
You mean "excepting" for Rice ordering
Yeah sure....the news came out of the WH, the same guy that should have been fired by flynn....really credible, menstral.
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Evelyn Farkas that little step n fetch is a gift that just keeps on giving.
Thanks for finder her Ette.
You mean excepting for Rice ordering the unmasking of Trump operatives and requesting all intercepts of their communications. " CS
Yes , IF you look past that fact.
When President Trump said Obama Spied on him, the left went nutz, well, Trump is again right and the left is again nutz.
Now about that 2018 Election.
Katrina Pierson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOxv5Hu78W8
Anonymous opie said...
President Trump today was roundly and repeatedly cheered at the White House
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ah, he must've overturned another one of 0linsky's executive orders.
good job.
Highlights
March economic confidence index (ECI) averaged plus 9 for the third month of 2017"
April 04, 2017
Remarks by President Trump at 2017 North America's Building Trades Unions National Legislative Conference"
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ah, he must've overturned another one of 0linsky's executive orders.
Yeah, the same type of orders you and others kept calling illegal. Sad how blind you are.
This election was all about returning power to the people. I’ve spent my life working side-by-side with American builders, and now you have a builder as your President. (Applause.) One of my first acts as President was to stop one of the great sellouts of the American worker -- I immediately withdrew the United States from the disaster -- this would have been a disaster -- this would have been another NAFTA, which, by the way, is a disaster. I took you out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. (Applause.) Thank you. That one wasn’t even close. And you know it and I know it, everybody knows it.
Next, I cleared the way for the construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines. (Applause.) And it’s looking like that’s going to have about 42,000 jobs involved, those two jobs. That some number of great people. That’s a big, big, beautiful -- lot of people. And Sean actually, and a whole group joined me in the Oval Office when we approved the Keystone permit.(Applause".
Yep , JOBS, returning to the USA .
Yeah, the same type of orders you and others kept calling illegal.
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yup, them's the one's d0pie.
that's how this works. skeets signs an illegal order, trump LEGALLY undoes it.
get used to it.
Yeah, the same type of orders you and others kept calling illegal. Sad how blind you are. " The Three Liberal Stooges
just damn.
Question for all here, do you invest like Roger/Opium/Jane, full of emotion, they all told us that the US Market was going to tank, they Took Paul Krugman to heart.
11/8/2016 18332.74 Dow Closed
Or do you invest wisely, with facts and analysts ?
4/4/2017 20,689.24 Dow Closed
Question for all here, do you invest like
None of your fucking business. Go eat a pile of goat shit.
Yeah sure....the news came out of the WH, the same guy that should have been fired by flynn
Well Opie you seem more than usually unhinged today.
Wonder why that is.
Denial is so difficult sometimes.
For menstral boy who believed pizza gate....seems what little credibility he had is now up in smoke. Denial is what you do best, menstral child.
The author of the rice BS.....
Before the Rice story broke, Cernovich was best known as a leading promoter of the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, which claimed that a Washington, D.C., pizza establishment was the front for a pedophilia ring involving former Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.
The right are all dribbling down their legs as the Rice thing goes poooof...from the wa post
Which is why conservatives have been waiting so desperately for something, anything they can use to turn the story around to their advantage, no matter how ludicrous the arguments they make might be. And now they’ve found it.
And boy, are those arguments ever ludicrous. At this moment, the right wing media is going bonkers over reports that Susan Rice, who was national security adviser at the time, in 2016 requested the “unmasking” of certain U.S. persons who had been picked up in surveillance of foreign intelligence targets. Because those persons turned out to be associates of Donald Trump, conservatives have managed to twist this into the allegation that the Obama administration was “spying” on Trump and his campaign. Over at foxnews.com I count 11 separate articles about Rice on the home page. You can find similar screaming headlines at Breitbart, the Daily Caller, and all the other conservative sites — and don’t ask what’s happening on Twitter (if you want to get a taste of the lunacy, search #SusanRice).
Why the gleeful eruption of accusations? Certain conservative media already had their basic storyline, which is that the problem isn’t Russian meddling in our election, the problem is that somebody revealed Russian meddling in our election. That’s why, along with President Trump, they’re so outraged (or are at least pretending to be outraged) about leaks of the various investigations. But what they lacked was a single villain, and now they have one, someone they hated already and on whom they can focus all their considerable venom.
For menstral boy who believed pizza gate...
That's what people like about you Opie, you lie with such sincerity. (\sarcasm)
Who were the names released to, Roger?
If it was anyone other than an intelligence analyst who by necessity needed to know the identity of the Trump staffer in order to understand the intelligence, then it was released inappropriately.
Anonymous opie said...
Question for all here, do you invest like
None of your fucking business. Go eat a pile of goat shit.
And the answer is Opie lost his ass selling short.
And the answer is Opie lost his ass selling short.
If you only had a brain. Don't play in options and never will.
Commonsense said...
For menstral boy who believed pizza gate...
That's what people like about you menstral, you lie with such sincerity. (\sarcasm)
Nothing like answering your own post with your own post.....LOL
And the answer is Opie lost his ass selling short.
Opie you're such an idiot you don't even know you're an idiot.
Do come back.
BTW, remember that successful Syrian deal touted by Obama and his minions here?
"Britain, France and Turkey joined Washington in condemning the attack, which they also attributed to Mr. Assad’s government. The United Nations Security Council was scheduled to be briefed on the attack on Wednesday.
One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Syrian government since President Trump took office, it poses a potential policy dilemma for the administration, which would like to shift the focus in Syria entirely to fighting the Islamic State."
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/world/middleeast/syria-gas-attack.html
Why does he lie?
But amid all those lies, told to ourselves and to one another in order to amass power, woo lovers, hurt enemies and shield ourselves against the often glaring discomfort of reality, humanity has always had an abiding respect for truth.
In the United States, born and periodically reborn out of the repeated recognition and rejection of the age-old lie that some people are meant to take dominion over others, truth is as vital a part of the civic, social and intellectual culture as justice and liberty. Our civilization is premised on the conviction that such a thing as truth exists, that it is knowable, that it is verifiable, that it exists independently of authority or popularity and that at some point — and preferably sooner rather than later — it will prevail.
Even American leaders who lie generally know the difference between their statements and the truth. Richard Nixon said “I am not a crook” but by that point must have seen that he was. Bill Clinton said “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” but knew that he did.
“ He targets the darkness, anger and insecurity that hide in each of us and harnesses them for his own purposes.
The insult that Donald Trump brings to the equation is an apparent disregard for fact so profound as to suggest that he may not see much practical distinction between lies, if he believes they serve him, and the truth.
His approach succeeds because of his preternaturally deft grasp of his audience. Though he is neither terribly articulate nor a seasoned politician, he has a remarkable instinct for discerning which conspiracy theories in which quasi-news source, or which of his own inner musings, will turn into ratings gold. He targets the darkness, anger and insecurity that hide in each of us and harnesses them for his own purposes. If one of his lies doesn’t work — well, then he lies about that.
If we harbor latent racism or if we fear terror attacks by Muslim extremists, then he elevates a rumor into a public debate: Was Barack Obama born in Kenya, and is he therefore not really president?
If his own ego is threatened — if broadcast footage and photos show a smaller-sized crowd at his inauguration than he wanted — then he targets the news media, falsely charging outlets with disseminating “fake news” and insisting, against all evidence, that he has proved his case (“We caught them in a beauty,” he said).
If his attempt to limit the number of Muslim visitors to the U.S. degenerates into an absolute fiasco and a display of his administration’s incompetence, then he falsely asserts that terrorist attacks are underreported. (One case in point offered by the White House was the 2015 attack in San Bernardino, which in fact received intensive worldwide news coverage. The Los Angeles Times won a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on the subject).
If he detects that his audience may be wearying of his act, or if he worries about a probe into Russian meddling into the election that put him in office, he tweets in the middle of the night the astonishingly absurd claim that President Obama tapped his phones. And when evidence fails to support him he dispatches his aides to explain that by “phone tapping” he obviously didn’t mean phone tapping. Instead of backing down when confronted with reality, he insists that his rebutted assertions will be vindicated as true at some point in the future.
Trump’s easy embrace of untruth can sometimes be entertaining, in the vein of a Moammar Kadafi speech to the United Nations or the self-serving blathering of a 6-year-old.
“ He gives every indication that he is as much the gullible tool of liars as he is the liar in chief. ”
But he is not merely amusing. He is dangerous. His choice of falsehoods and his method of spewing them — often in tweets, as if he spent his days and nights glued to his bedside radio and was periodically set off by some drivel uttered by a talk show host who repeated something he’d read on some fringe blog — are a clue to Trump’s thought processes and perhaps his lack of agency. He gives every indication that he is as much the gullible tool of liars as he is the liar in chief.
Remember this is the asshole you are defending
Jan 16, 2017 - We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons ...
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One drunken asshole defending another.
Trump never takes the blame for anything. He's the President, to our regret, so he should once in a while and say something true. But this isn't one of them..
A suspected chemical attack killed dozens of people in a rebel-held area of Syria on Tuesday, activists said. At least 83 people -- including 25 children -- died and at least 350 others were injured in the incident in northern Idlib province, southwest of Aleppo, the relief agency UOSSM told NBC News. President Trump said the attack was "reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world." He blamed it on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Obama administration's "weakness and irresolution" to act after initially citing the use of chemical weapons as a "red line."
It's been a lot longer since I drank alcohol, than the drunken squa.
Trump never takes the blame for anything.
Well Roger since the media and the liberals blame everything on him, he doesn't have to.
"s and irresolution" to act after initially citing the use of chemical weapons as a "red line.""
He's right.
Obama did nothing.
Obama's grand diplomacy to rid Syria of chemical weapons was just another bullshit farce.
"Trump never takes the blame for anything."
Rich I tell ya.
After eight long years of the two-bit community organizer blaming W for everything but the bubonic plague, you MUST be liquored up to bitch about Trump.
"Poor, Susan Rice. Add her to the long list of blacks who got in bed with Dems--woke up with fleas"
It's been a lot longer since I drank alcohol, than the drunken squa.
No ONE gives a damn
And your weakness, no one else cares about it
One question for you folks. You attacked Rice and said because she has lied in the past and therefor cannot be trusted in what she said in this interview.
It has been 75 days since Trump tweeted and accused Obama of a felony and wire tapping the Golden Castle. There is no doubt to anyone who has a brain knows that it's not true
Nether was his claim on crowd size
Or his claim that three million illegals, all voted for Clinton in several states. You know it's not true.
But you trust him, and don't trust Rice Give me a beak. Be honest or once. Is it for Trump to lie, as long as he's attacking Democrats?
You better brace yourselves, you won't like this.
President Trump's approval rating has fallen to 35%, according to a new poll released Tuesday.
The Quinnipiac University national poll found that his approval rating had dropped 2% since March 22, the last time it released its results. The percentage of total voters who did not approve was 57%.
According to the poll, Republicans were the only group that the president wasn't struggling with; they gave him an approval rating of 79% and a disapproval rating of 14%.
But among other groups, Trump didn't do as well:
Independents disapproved of the president's performance
57%, compared to 32% who approved
Democrats disapproved 91%, compared to 6%
Men disapproved 51%, compared to 39%
Women disapproved 63%, compared to 31%
White voters disapproved 48%, compared to 43%
Non-white voters disapproved 77%, compared to 16%
"President Donald Trump continues to struggle, even among his most loyal supporters," Tim Malloy, assistant director of the poll, said in a statement. "Many of them would be hard pressed to see even a sliver of a silver lining in this troubling downward spiral."
He noted that President George W. Bush hit a low 28% approval rating, but it took much of his time in office to get there.
The poll was conducted from March 30 to April 3
White voters, who overwhelmingly for Trump, now 48% disaprove;
A suspected chemical attack killed dozens of people in a rebel-held area of Syria on Tuesday, activists said. At least 83 people -- including 25 children -- died and at least 350 others were injured in the incident in northern Idlib province, southwest of Aleppo, the relief agency UOSSM told NBC News. President Trump said the attack was "reprehensible and cannot be ignored by the civilized world." He blamed it on the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and the Obama administration's "weakness and irresolution" to act after initially citing the use of chemical weapons as a "red line."
Do you know what Mr Trump said in reaction to the Obama inability to act?
In a tweet, of course, said this, and it is a quote.
President Obama, do not attack Syria. There is no upside and tremendous downside. Save your "power" for another (and important) day!
Paul, you should know better. Alcoholism is a disease, per the AMA.
Weak people who are alcoholics, who can't or don't want to stop.
Accepting that you can't do it yourself, takes strength and courage. I found that to be the biggest problem I had. I reminded humble and it got me almost five years.
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Humble??? LMAO. You think so highly of yourself it's unbelievable and borders on the psychotic
Trump was right to criticize Obama especially his red line fiasco.
However, by doing so people are going to ask what he is going to do about Syria?
And I don't think he's committed to a military option since his attention is on North Korea.
Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
It's been a lot longer since I drank alcohol, than the drunken squa.
No ONE gives a damn
And your weakness, no one else cares about it"
Exactly.
Roger/Opie sorry to hear that you took Paul Krugman's advice on 2016 nov 9th.
Roger proudly posted this on that morning:
Click It really does now look like President Donald J. Trump, and markets are plunging. When might we expect them to recover?
Frankly, I find it hard to care much, even though this is my specialty. The disaster for America and the world has so many aspects that the economic ramifications are way down my list of things to fear.
Still, I guess people want an answer: If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never.
:
Roger Krugman was happy to see a 600 point futures drop.
Knowing that we do that the Three Liberal Stooges are men of actions , they went all in and now are in the RED Yuggly.
Stupid to beat against the workers both Union and Non-Union, but they did, just like Hillary did, and they all lost Biggly.
But you trust him, and don't trust Rice Give me a beak. Be honest or once. Is it for Trump to lie, as long as he's attacking Democrats?
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if only the examples you cite that have you all wee-wee'd up were important, but they're not.
you keep coming back to these three "lies" as if they had some paramount level of seriousness. they don't.
wiretap claims? who knows? considering what a hackish piece of shit your dear leader is, and what a pathological liar rice has been proven to be, is the claim plausible?
absolutely and without a doubt.
inaugural crowd size?
big. fucking. deal. as significant as a pimple on a gnats ass. yet you obsess over it. says more about you and the left than trump.
3 million illegal beaners casting a ballot? i'm sure many did, however 3 million seems high. but again, you obsess over this and it impacts exactly NO ONE.
now then, compare and contrast trump's lies, embellishments and exaggerations to rice's EGREGIOUS LIES. lies that were told to deceive, told to do actual harm, told to cover for incompetence that actually did get people killed, told to make the worst president of the modern era look good when the truth of his presidential performance is anything but.
rice told lies to distract from american patriots being murdered in actual planned terror attacks, she told lies to excuse a traitorous deserter, and as we learned just yesterday she lied to cover for her former boss, who, through sheer cowardice and incompetence, got people killed by the assad regime with weapons she had said were eliminated:
Jan 16, 2017 - We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons ...
only a pussy hat wearing nit wit who needs the ama to classify his personal failure as a disease could find moral equivalence between trump's boastful embellishments and rice's actual deadly lies.
go back to the alky blog and re-format your last copy/paste. i looked in on that steaming shitpile this morning just to see how unhinged you've become. so you got a page view out of me. you're welcome.
Bumble's signature domestic policy is in free fall. Keep obstructing Donks
KNOXVILLE (WATE) – A dire headline on CNN Tuesday morning called Knoxville the first place Obamacare could die. A plan to repeal and replace it is in the works, but East Tennessee is running out of time.
Humana is currently the only insurer on the exchange in the area and it says it will leave at the start of 2018. If that happens, 16 counties in the Knoxville region will be without an option to buy a subsidized insurance policy, which is about 40,000 Tennesseans.
who needs "repeal and replace" when "crash and burn" seems to be unfolding right on schedule?
not and it will disappear by tomorrow morning, except on The Drudge Report. The major source of posts here.
April 3, 2017 at 11:13 PM"
And yet Bloomberg and ABC (the two I checked) have this in their top three stories for this morning, two days later then Old Alky Grifter said it would be gone.
IF we ever what to know for sure what to do, read Alky Post and do the reverse.
"who needs "repeal and replace" when "crash and burn" seems to be unfolding right on schedule?"
Let it burn.
Speaking of Crash and Burning
Social insecurity and Medicare/caid are in need of ever more tax dollars being earned today to meet payouts.
Both of these "successes" are draining money from today's earners to be paid to retirees today. Socialism always sucks.
The Much Repeated Lies of ObamaCare
There are so many, but, this one has damaged wallets and purses thru out the USA.
Choice and Competition" Obama, Polosie, Schmucker and all of them.
Donald Trump has the lowest polling numbers in history.
Independents disapproved of the president's performance
57%, compared to 32% who approved
Democrats disapproved 91%,
6%Men disapproved 51%,
Independents disapproved of the president's performance
57%, compared to 32% who approved
Democrats disapproved 91%, compared to 6%
Men disapproved 51%, compared to 39%
Women disapproved 63%, compared to 31%
White voters disapproved 48%, compared to 43%
Non-white voters disapproved 77%, compared to compared to 16%
"President Donald Trump continues to struggle, even among his most loyal supporters," Tim Malloy, assistant director of the poll, said in a statement. "Many of them would be hard pressed to see even a sliver of a silver lining in this troubling downward spiral."
He noted that President George W. Bush hit a low 28% approval rating, but it took much of his time in office to get there.
The poll was conducted from March 30 to April 3
RCP Poll Averages
President Trump Job Approval
Approve39.8
Disapprove53.3
Disapprove +13.5
Congressional Job Approval
Approve19.5
Disapprove66.5
Disapprove +47.0
Direction of Country
Right Direction37.1
Wrong Track54.0
Wrong Track +16.9
Trump Favorability Ratings
Favorable41.9
Unfavorable52.8
Unfavorable +10.9
Donald Trump is not going to be able to accomplish his signature issue, health care.
Congressional Republicans are not going to be able to hold onto the house.
You can't understand that how badly the lie about the wire tapping tweet has hurt his ability to govern. It has been the subject of every single day.
Here Alky Let me help you with polling.
337 Electorial votes is what you thought Hillary would sweep into Office with, where is she now, still riding those HIGH poll numbers.
IF we applied your illogic polls run the nation, she would be President.
However , Votes matter and she is not.
The Unions loved President Trump yesterday , he thanked them for their voting for him, in return he works for them.
I know what an Idea, the President is up early , puts in a full days work plus and does it all for WE THE PEOPLE.
Did you see he donated 80 K to the US Parks Department, will Hillary Match that, you know she loves to talk about being for the Parks, or is that only when she uses OPM?
It is so funny to watch the little alky struggle.
JOBS
Signature issue, you just are too stupid, across every demo, JOBS was the Number #1 issue.
JOBS
There even the stupid blink drunk Roger Krugman can get it.
JOBS
Yesterday.
Secretary of State Tillerson on the North Korea's missile launch.
"North Korea launched yet another intermediate range ballistic missile. The United States has spoken enough about North Korea. We have no other comments."
A competent President would have met with his Secretary of State and Defense, to discuss our options on this very dangerous situation. Instead he spoke to a crowd of construction business leaders and unionized constitution workers.
And once again claimed that his 306 electoral college victory was the greatest in the last century.
News reports have started that the leading up North Korea is "desperate" to hold onto control.
He is meeting with with the Prime minister of China on Thursday.
Once again watched television and tweeted about how much the Fake News, is not fair to him. And a statement attacking President Obama. He is dangerous. Yet all you have are posting racist comments, and repeating your love for him.
Racist comments about Rice?
Boy Roger, you're following the leftist playbook page by page.
There's a new post about the abuse of the FISA law by the Obama adminstration at Truth in Common Sense.
Spam by the drunkard
Spam by the drunkard
and unionized constitution workers.
What's a unionized constitution worker??
Bueller...Bueller...Bueller...
OMG Funny, President Trump Takes the time to have a nice big meeting with Union Workers , rank and file and Management and yep, you got it, Roger Krugman is tear dropping.
"Instead he spoke to a crowd of construction business leaders and unionized constitution workers."
I know this is killing the left having lost the Presidency in part because of the Union Voters , Voting for Trump, he now took the time to thank them and work WITH them for a better, wealthier and Prosperous America. He is locking down the Union Voter.
For supposedly colluding with the Russians Nikki Haley was sure hard on them at the UN today.
I was wrong earlier when I thought Trump was concentrating on North Korea. It's sounds like we are heading for a conflict in Syria.
With the Russians.
Then again that two-war doctrine may be tested.
After eight-years of force degradation.
Donald Trump is not going to be able to accomplish his signature issue, health care.
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LOL. ok, whatever you say, captain landslide.
Blogger Commonsense said...
Racist comments about Rice?
Boy Roger, you're following the leftist playbook page by page.
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that was the MSDNC spin last night, so we were assured that the alky was going to parrot it today.
i've been living in his head rent free for ever, and i can assure you that the inside of this gin soaked skull full of mush hasn't seen an original thought in ages.
Multi-tasking is a mystery to Roger.
A competent President would have met with his Secretary of State and Defense, to discuss our options on this very dangerous situation.
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you couldn't manage to keep from drinking your liver to the verge of total collapse but somehow you fancy yourself a foreign policy strategerist?
Another terrible day in mudville as trump strikes out accusing Rice of a crime....dumping bannon on his ass another NK test, more kids killed in syria.....let's see him multitask this mess.
"you couldn't manage to keep from drinking your liver to the verge of total collapse but somehow you fancy yourself a foreign policy strategerist?"
LMAO.
The irony of this post is that Comrade Trump is the one who really promoted birtherism.
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