"The legislation we passed today* would unburden Americans from the harmful effects of this failed law and build a bridge to health care solutions that work for families in Arizona and across the country. It is clear that any serious attempt to improve our health care system must begin with a full repeal and replacement of Obamacare, and I will continue fighting on behalf of the people of Arizona to achieve it."
*2015 repeal of Obamacare that never became law
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It would also depend on a serious attempt to replace it with something better, and that the GOP has not produced.
Arizona ObamanationCare premiums went up 116% in just the last year.
"Because what's going on here is that Obamacare policies, the few that are out there, are very expensive, and loaded up with costly coverages in certain areas such as drug addiction treatment and pregnancy care. You can't get a policy without those mandates. Those mandates drive up the cost of the entire policies even as only a few consumers ever use them, and most consumers already know they will never need them. They also have sky-high deductibles which make it cheaper to pay the Obamacare tax than buy policies given that huge amounts of money would have to be shelled out in the deductible before a drop of care would be delivered anyway - the insurance payments are basically just subsidies to drug addicts in treatment, not downpayments on health care for the actual consumer.
They show that 61,380 Arizonans with incomes below $25,000 are being socked with the Obamacare fine for not purchasing the overpriced, underperforming Obamacare policies with gigantic deductibles, and 125,290 Arizonans with incomes below $50,000 are being forced to pay the fine. These low and lower-middle income voters amount to 81.52% of all fine-payers in the individual health care insurance market. The fact that the average fine is $454 and fines are calibrated by income, suggests the poorer are being hit harder in Arizona. Poverty tax, or tax for being poor, is the right way to put it, as Daines has done."
"So the real reason people aren't 'choosing to purchase Obamacare' as the ATR daintily puts it, is that they are too poor to buy Obamacare. They can't afford it on $25,000 a year or even $50,000 a year. For all the sob stories in the media about the very few people who claim Obamacare has helped them, there are millions of victims shut out of the health insurance market simply because they cannot afford it.
McCain, who has quite a few mansions and no health care financing worries to speak of for himself, ran for office on an explicit promise to get rid of Obamacare. Now for the second time at least, he's loudly broken it, this time disingenuously saying he wants a bipartisan bill. His claim is appalling in light of the fact that Obamacare itself was monopartisan and should be thrown out for that alone. ATR points out that Obama explicitly made a 'firm pledge' not to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year in his Obamacare pledge, and the Supreme Court has ruled the 'fine' is really a tax.
On being poor.
Why is he doing it? To satisfy his ego. To get back at Trump for his insults during the campaign. To salve his bitterness over losing the election in 2008 to Obama while Trump won. To show he still matters. He's making Arizona's poor pay to get his rocks off on all these things.
Arizonans, and all poor people who can't afford Obamacare, deserve better."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/09/john_mccain_guarantor_of_the_obamacare_poverty_tax.html
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., called the Affordable Care Act a “failure.”
“Arizona families are demanding affordability, accessibility and choice when it comes to their health care – not the expensive, restrictive and poor quality care that has been forced upon them by Obamacare,” McCain said in a statement. “Until President Obama and Congressional Democrats wake up to the law’s failure, and until we repeal and replace it with solutions that encourage competition and put patients back in charge, the Washington-knows-best approach will continue to unfairly burden the Arizona families it was supposed to help.”
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/10/25/arizona-obamacare-premiums/
McCain gives Yuge victory to
HB
JAMES
WP
INDY
OPIE
DEMS have majority in senate.
Got plan to "fix" obsmacre?
“I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal," McCain of Arizona said in a statement. "I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried."
The statement recalls McCain’s dramatic return to Washington in July after a brain-cancer diagnosis, when he cast the decisive “no” vote to send a health plan by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell down to a stunning 49-51 defeat.
The GOP drive to gut the Affordable Care Act is using a dramatically short-circuited process that seeks to replace one landmark health law with another introduced just two weeks ago by Republicans Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.
Hospital and health insurance stocks moved upward after McCain’s announcement. The S&P 500 Managed Health Care Index of insurers pared earlier losses and was down about 1 percent at 2:41 p.m. in New York. A Bloomberg Intelligence index of hospital stocks gained 1.3 percent.
....The White House “just wants a legislative victory, they’re not as concerned with the policy” in the bill, Paul told the Associated Press...
...The Brookings Institution estimated Friday that the Graham-Cassidy plan would reduce the number of people with health coverage by about 21 million a year from 2020 through 2026. The number may be larger, it said, because of difficulties in setting up state health systems by 2020 and possible market turmoil in the final years. "What is clear, however, is that the legislation would result in very large reductions in insurance coverage," Brookings said.
...McCain said he would consider supporting a proposal similar to the Graham-Cassidy bill if it were "the product of extensive hearings, debate and amendment. But that has not been the case."
“We should not be content to pass health care legislation on a party-line basis, as Democrats did when they rammed Obamacare through Congress in 2009," McCain said.
Collins criticized the bill because among other things it undermines protection for people with pre-existing medical conditions, according to the Portland Press Herald. "The premiums would be so high they would be unaffordable," she said.
Lightning-Speed Path
Democrats have denounced the lightning-speed path to a vote, with only one committee hearing on the bill scheduled. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York praised McCain in a statement Friday and said, "I have assured Senator McCain that as soon as repeal is off the table, we Democrats are intent on resuming the bipartisan process."
After the July defeat of McConnell’s plan, Senate Health Chairman Lamar Alexander and top Democrat Patty Murray of Washington worked on a bipartisan plan to shore up Obamacare’s insurance exchanges, but Alexander of Tennessee said this week that the effort had failed. Murray said in a statement, though, that they "identified significant common ground" but GOP leaders decided to "freeze" the bipartisan effort and push the party’s own plan.
The new proposal would turn Obamacare funds into block grants for the states, which would create their own health-care plans for their residents. States that expanded Medicaid under Obamacare would be hardest hit by spending cuts, losing $180 billion from 2020 to 2026, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. States that rejected the Medicaid expansion would gain $73 billion.
The measure would end the Affordable Care Act’s requirements that individuals have insurance and that most employers provide it.
It also would end the guarantee that people with pre-existing medical conditions can’t be charged more for insurance. A public dispute between TV comedian Jimmy Kimmel, whose infant son has a congenital heart defect, and the Senate sponsors took on bitter personal terms this week and demonstrated how little is understood about the legislation.
"Thank you @SenJohnMcCain for being a hero again and again and now AGAIN," Kimmel wrote on Twitter Friday after McCain’s announcement.
Fools errands .
Educating those that love obamacare.
((See list above)).
Fools errands .
Educating those that love obamacare.
((See list above)).
Jimmy Kimmel, Have You No Shame?
"...Nobody would be kicked off ObamaCare or be denied insurance. Rather, many have already opted to pay ObamaCare fines rather than ObamaCare premiums they can’t afford and one-size fits all mandates they don’t need. Young people refused ObamaCare coverage in droves because, being young and healthy, they had other things to do with their money. They might have opted for catastrophic coverage, but ObamaCare made this coverage illegal. David Harsanyi addresses Kimmel’s falsehood at RealClearPolitics.com:
Not a single person would be "kicked off" his or her insurance. Rather, the Congressional Budget Office review of the AHCA found that of the 24 million Americans who would no longer have health insurance after an Obamacare repeal, 14 million would choose not to buy insurance in 2018 in the absence of a penalty. And if Obamacare were not repealed, the CBO projects another 6 million people would voluntarily leave the Obamacare markets. Now, if you don't believe Americans should be afforded the choice to leave or not buy insurance, just say that. No one is being kicked off.
As Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker points out, returning coverage of preexisting conditions to the states does not cut off people with preexisting conditions, but rather returns to the days before ObamaCare when a majority of states had good and affordable preexisting condition coverage"
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/09/jimmy_kimmel__have_you_no_shame.html
McCain gives Yuge victory to
HB
JAMES
WP
INDY
OPIE
Wonderful, isn't it?
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said Friday that Democrats opposition to the Republican health care plan is based on their distrust of local government…
“Governors and state lawmakers all across America spend a whole lot more time in the states and their districts than the folks in Washington who live in that bubble,” Mr. Walker said.
“The rest of us who live in reality are going to continue to provide for ways to provide for pre-existing conditions. Wisconsin is a good example. We had a high risk pool called HIRSP for years that was highly effective that Obamacare managed to get rid of,” he explained, referring to Wisconsin’s Health Insurance Risk-Sharing Pool.
HIRSP was the state’s health insurance market for those who did not have access to health insurance through an employer or another government program. It ended after Obamacare became law.
A lot of good state programs covering preexisting conditions and others in high risk pools were made illegal by ObamaCare. Did Jimmy Kimmel rail against that? Avik Roy, writing in Forbes, exposes Kimmel’s pre-existing condition rant as a lie:
…prior to Obamacare, the vast majority of Americans with health insurance were already in plans that were required to offer them coverage regardless of pre-existing conditions. Employer-based plans were required to offer coverage to everyone regardless of pre-existing conditions. So were Medicare, Medicaid, and other government programs like the VA. Employer- and government-based plans, prior to Obamacare, represented 90 percent of Americans with health insurance.
Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Vermont, and Washington all required insurers to guarantee issuance of coverage to those with pre-existing conditions prior to Obamacare becoming law. In other words, if Obamacare’s regulations were repealed, individuals with pre-existing conditions in those states would be entirely unaffected.
An additional set of states has enacted guaranteed issue at the state level since 2010, in order to make their states' insurance markets comply with Obamacare. Many of these states are likely to keep those provisions even if the federal rules are repealed.
It would seem ObamaCare violated the first rule of medicine -- first, do no harm. ObamaCare did a great deal of harm, leaving people with premiums as high as their mortgage payments, doctors they couldn’t keep, plans they liked and could afford but couldn’t keep, and insurance with deductibles so high they couldn’t use them. All this is fine with Jimmy Kimmel, who insists that those who disagree with him are inbred liars.
and a lot more from previous link...
All Americans have a preexisting condition that jeopardizes their health and their pocketbooks. It has denied them the doctors of their choice and coverage they had and liked. It’s called ObamaCare, a plague on the American health care system that limousine liberals like Jimmy Kimmel don’t have to worry about.
Republicans hate the American people, especially those who have a limited income. Ironically, most of them will be left begging from family and friends, voted for Donald Trump.
We know what Graham-Cassidy, the Republican health care bill, would do. It would slash Medicaid and other federal health care spending, ending health coverage for tens of millions of Americans. To Democrats, this is intolerable. To many Republicans, this is what it means to have a “small government” society; this is the system working. But it’s at odds with the party’s promises of the past seven years: repeated pledges to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something cheaper, better, fairer, and more comprehensive. Republicans can’t square that circle, so instead, they’ve opted to lie and hope, amid the scramble, they get away with it.
One of the most egregious lies comes from Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy, namesake (along with South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham) of the bill in question. Cassidy, who is also a physician, was a rare Republican voice to express concerns about the Better Care Reconciliation Act, the Senate counterpart to the House’s American Health Care Act. In a May appearance on Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show, Cassidy supported the comedian’s belief that “no family should be denied medical care, emergency or otherwise, because they can’t afford it.” Deeming this the “Jimmy Kimmel test,” Cassidy said he would reject legislation that couldn’t meet it. The BCRA couldn’t (though Cassidy would later vote for the notorious “skinny repeal”), and as Kimmel pointed out in a recent monologue, Graham-Cassidy can’t either. It works by ending Obamacare regulations on insurers and replacing federal subsidies with block grants, giving states the “flexibility” to build their own health insurance systems. But for most states (especially those that accepted Medicaid expansion) those grants are smaller than what the states had been getting under the Affordable Care Act. The effect, according to one projection from the Commonwealth Fund, is massive coverage losses, with an estimated 32 million people losing health insurance over a 10-year period.
Republicans have to pass the bill because they have to pass the bills by their contributions by the pharmaceutical industry.
Cassidy’s proposal doesn’t meet his own criteria. But rather than own this, Cassidy lied.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/09/graham_cassidy_like_all_obamacare_repeal_is_built_on_lies.html
Of course, you can't believe this, because of the source, but the facts are indispensable. I have been checking out source after source, outside of the Trumpism infested FAKE NEWS, i.e. Faux News etc, where they evade the Coldheartedtruth, just like you do now. You can't even tolerate data from free press. Where freedom lives.
This bill, if passed, the Republican Party will pay an electoral penalty of epic proportions. The states like Arizona, where the Republican governments refused to work with the ACA and accept Medicaid funding have all suffered huge price increases in health insurance coverage.
This law would turn over almost every health insurance coverage to the individual states, where either large tax increases, or simply will not provide any health insurance coverage of any kind. Including the pre existing conditions coverage, as both the President and Senator Cassidy have blatantly lied again and again and again, and you still believe both of them.
Nothing but spam from the drunkard and the pedo.
Yawn.
IT'S ALWAYS A MISTAKE NOT TO TAKE A REALLY PRINCIPLED PERSON SERIOUSLY ABOUT THEIR PRINCIPLES AND CONVICTIONS
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After Graham indicated to a White House pool reporter on Tuesday that he feels “very good” about McCain’s stance after hearing positively from Ducey, the normally talkative McCain grew far less loquacious.
“I have nothing to say,” he growled when asked about Graham’s sentiments. A day later, after McConnell’s office indicated a vote would come up, McCain was on message — and still grumpy.
“Nothing has changed,” McCain told POLITICO as he hopped off the train connecting the Capitol to the Senate office buildings. When asked whether that made him a “no” vote, he repeatedly said: “I want the regular order.”
That seemed to signal heavily that McCain would end up opposing Graham’s bill. And he made it official Friday, prompting Graham to stress that his work to repeal Obamacare would nonetheless continue and that “my friendship with John McCain is not based on how he votes but respect for how he’s lived his life and the person he is.”
What puzzled McCain’s friends is the idea that a Hail Mary on Obamacare as the clock wound down would ever persuade the sixth-term senator to overcome his convictions. McCain had long railed against the law, but the idea of legislating on the fly to uphold a campaign promise always seemed anathema to the longtime committee chairman.
“Here’s the thing. John has always believed that the Senate ought to operate by regular order, through committees on a bipartisan basis. And he’s always done that,” Black said. “He’s a man you can take at his word in his career. And people should have.”
jimmy kimmel was getting his talking points from pathological liar chuckles the clown schemer:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/22/chuck-schumer-coached-jimmy-kimmel-behind-the-scenes-on-how-to-oppose-obamacare-repeal/
IT'S ALWAYS A MISTAKE NOT TO TAKE A REALLY PRINCIPLED PERSON SERIOUSLY ABOUT THEIR PRINCIPLES AND CONVICTIONS
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., called the Affordable Care Act a “failure.”
“Arizona families are demanding affordability, accessibility and choice when it comes to their health care – not the expensive, restrictive and poor quality care that has been forced upon them by Obamacare,” McCain said in a statement. “Until President Obama and Congressional Democrats wake up to the law’s failure, and until we repeal and replace it with solutions that encourage competition and put patients back in charge, the Washington-knows-best approach will continue to unfairly burden the Arizona families it was supposed to help.”
This bill, if passed, the Republican Party will pay an electoral penalty of epic proportions.
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are we talking like, 'LANDSLIDE' here alky?
complete with those 'devastating boom's' you love to type?
btw, thanks for the prediction. if i get the chance to place a bet on it i'll go the other way.
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Your obsession with the President has been very well established. He's against the First Amendment to the United States Of America. He would silent anymore who would dare to disagree with him.
The commissioner of the NFL called him to shut the fuck up in his attempt to censor Kappernick.sp. The President is fucking stupid and crazy. Got Rocket Man!
MORE spam by the drunkard.
There is not a single metric of health or health care that the Graham-Cassidy plan—co-sponsored by Senator Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina—makes better.Photograph by Mark Peterson / Redux
The fundamental thing to understand about Senate Republicans’ latest attempt to repeal Obamacare is that the bill under consideration would not just undo the Affordable Care Act—it would also end Medicaid as we know it and our federal government’s half-century commitment to closing the country’s yawning gaps in health coverage. And it would do so without putting in place any credible resources or policies to replace the system it is overturning. If our country enacts this bill, it would be an act of mass suicide.
In my surgery practice in Boston, I see primarily cancer patients. When I started out, in 2003, at least one in ten of my patients was uninsured. Others, who had insurance, would discover in the course of their treatment that their policies had annual or lifetime caps that wouldn’t cover their costs, or that they would face unaffordable premiums going forward because they now had a preëxisting condition. When he was governor of Massachusetts, it was Mitt Romney, a conservative, who brought Republicans and Democrats together to make a viable state system of near-universal coverage. That system then served as a model for the A.C.A. The results have been clear: increases in coverage have markedly improved people’s access to care and their health. For the last four years, health-care costs in Massachusetts have risen more slowly than the national average—while the national numbers themselves have been at historic lows. I have not seen a single uninsured patient—zero—in a decade. And now comes an utterly reckless piece of legislation that would destroy these gains.
To review how we got to this point: last spring, the House passed a health-care-reform bill that proposed to hollow out the A.C.A.’s funding, insurance mandates, and protections for people with preëxisting conditions. It was immensely unpopular with the public. The problem was not just that twenty-three million Americans would lose their health insurance if the bill becomes law but also the Republicans’ vision of a health system where insurance with deductibles of five thousand dollars and more, and little or no primary-care coverage, would become the norm. This summer, Senate Republicans failed to secure enough votes to pass a modified version of the House bill. Later, in a dramatic late-night session, the Senate also rejected, by a single vote, a “skinny” repeal bill. That bill would have repealed only the parts of the A.C.A. that required large businesses to insure their workers and all Americans to carry coverage. It would have resulted in a mere sixteen million more uninsured people, according to estimates.
The Republican bill currently being rushed to a vote was put forward by a group of senators led by Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina, and Bill Cassidy, of Louisiana. As has become the apparent rule for Republican health-care bills, there have been no hearings or committee reviews of the Graham-Cassidy bill. And, this time, lawmakers and the public do not even have a Congressional Budget Office analysis of the effects the bill would have on the budget, insurance costs, or the uninsured rate.
gOOD READING, ROGER
Loretta,
Cierra la jodida con tu obsesión con mi recuperación continúa con, 1,948 dÃas de un dÃa a la vez. Su enfermedad de Alzheimer es una tragedia, dormir un poco y luego obtener ayuda.
MORE spam by the drunkard and the pedo.
Yawn.
for slow readers-----
the idea of legislating on the fly to uphold a campaign promise always seemed anathema to the longtime committee chairman.
"Good old principled James"
No such person exists.
Good old pedophile, James exists.
So as McCain says Obama's signature achievement is "expensive, restrictive and poor quality care that has been forced upon them"
and "the Washington-knows-best approach will continue to unfairly burden the Arizona families it was supposed to help"
Great legacy for a failed president, but deservedly so I guess.
And Democrats don't appear to understand. TRUMP 2020
Obama's legacy
Failed Healthcare system
Failed Korea Policy
Failed Iran Policy
Failed wages
Failed Race Relations
Failed America First
Failed border protection
Failed you name it
Winner - jimmy Carter...
Every athlete he attacked last night, are African Americans. His opening statement when he was planning on running for President, was the Birther nonsense. He's a white supremacist.
LOL.
Stupid drunk.
Trump spent the last 50 years being a New York City democrat. But now he's a anti-gay white supremacist racist.
Stop posting such bullshit.
Every athlete he attacked last night, are African Americans.
Funny, I didn't see African-Americans. I just saw a bunch of spoiled pampered assholes disrespecting a country that has given them so much wealth and comfort.
So did nearly every other American boycotting the NFL this year.
If you didn't think Trump spoke for the overwhelming majority of Americans as well as ex-NFL fans then you are seriously delusional.
Man I'm glad I don't go through life allowing my emotions to rule me, like you do Roger.
It's pitiful
“I really had such deep doubts about his preparation, his temperament, his character, his experience, but he’s been even worse than I thought he would be.”
— Hillary Clinton, quoted by The Hill, on President Trump.
And she still lost, how horrible was she?
LMAO stupid old man
Trump Will Shut Obamacare Site During Open Enrollment
“The Trump administration plans to shut down the federal health insurance exchange for 12 hours during all but one Sunday in the upcoming Obamacare open enrollment season,” CNN reports.
“The Department of Health and Human Services will also shut down the federal exchange — healthcare.gov — overnight on the first day of open enrollment, Nov. 1. More than three dozen states use that exchange for their marketplaces.”
So horrible she got millions of more votes than Trump.
And unlike Obama, Trump has NEVER been above water in the RealClearPolitics poll averages. Never once.
Spam by the pedo James Boswell.
Got elders? LOL
"LMAO stupid old man"
Stupid, vindictive OLD pedo.
Got elders? They would be glad to communicate with you.
"Man I'm glad I don't go through life allowing my emotions to rule me, like you do Roger.
It's pitiful"
Be thankful the emotional, guilt-ridden wreck AND the pedo don't live near you...
The elders declined to intervene to save Pastor James Boswell's position....
North Korea Says Attack on U.S. Is ‘Inevitable’
“North Korea’s foreign minister says that it is inevitable that missiles from his country will hit the United States after the American military flew bombers further north of the demilitarised zone than any American military plane in the 21st century, and after a week in which Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un exchanged personal insults,” the Independent reports.
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Bad enough that we have a nut case in N. Korea,
we had to elect one in N. America.
Millions more votes in California. It figures.
All those democrats in PA, OH, WI and MI who voted for obama votes trump.
LOL A while ago she was saying they actively fired me.
Now she says this.
She cuts herself off on one limb after another.
That's where lying gets you. :-)
This is an excellent article by Dr. Ronald Watson.
Ronald Watson JD MEd
"Your Fired"
Politically , I have done my best to give Mr. Trump the benefit of every ounce of doubt I may have about him. As a patriot , I want him to succeed. However, I have reached a point of giving up hope on him as 45.
I listened to a excerpt of a speech he gave recently in Alabama.
During a time when we ,as a country ,are or should be concerned about North Korea, Iran , domestic affairs like healthcare , creating jobs etc. he felt the need to bring up the athletes taking a knee. While most Americans has moved on , he brings up some athletes expressing their first amendment rights.
Here is really why I had a problem with his comments ! He seemingly, purposefully and wantonly or irresponsibly referred to the players as "those people ".......
No one can spin his motivation for referring to a group of Americans as "those people " ! He did it to incite or urge racism and bigotry.
From my perspective, when a person who is in a position of leadership like Mr Trump, who again, purposefully and persistently seek to divide us as a country , words can't express how dishonorable and sad that is ! We are experiencing challenges as a country , when we need unity and peace more than anything ! As a result of Mr Trump's actions , I am way beyond debating rather he is a racist or not ! There is a term in the law called "res ipsa loquitor . This term means "the thing speaks for itself" . I think , with regards to Mr Trumps actions and words "the thing speaks for itself"
In closing, Mr Trump indicated , he wished the football team owners would tell the players "your fired".
Sir , I have not doubt many of the American people , wish they could tell you "YOUR FIRED"
Peace
-R. Watson-Bolden JD MEd
A Advocate For The Poor and Homeless
LORETTA said...
Of course you were fired.
The elders finally had it with you, just like I said.
__________________
REV. JAMES said,
Oh yeah?
The current elders at Bellflower Christian church are:
Dan Hensley, Gary Harper, Joe Hubbard,
Kevin Lawrence, and Phil Lawrence.
The Elders Emeritus are Duane Anderson and John Wyatt.
All of them served while I was there except for Kevin
who was then a deacon and later became an elder
and now is a lay minister.
(The story of that young man's life is wonderful,
a "miracle" as his father Phil puts it.)
All of them will tell you that I was NOT fired
from Bellflower Christian Church.
They will also tell you that about a year after
I left, I with my wife was invited back along
with other past pastors where I participated in
and spoke at their celebration of their 125th
year anniversary. Our Regional Minister was present.
Poor Loretta aka Savagetta. She is so full of
hatred that she puts herself out on another limb
and then saws it off. That's what happens when
you so blatantly lie, as she has again and
again and again.
(It gives my heart simple but profound joy
to point this out.)
____________
ADDENDUM:
Bellflower Christian Church,
110 W. Melvin St.
P.O. Box 193
Bellflower Illinois 61724
Be sure to write them and ask them when they
"fired" the Rev. James M. Boswell.
They will have a good laugh and you
will get yet another proof that she
lies.
And lies. And lies. And lies. Ad infinitum.
LOL, stupid pedophile.
Churches have committees that do the hiring and firing, with input from the elders regarding firing. Everyone knows that.
Your elders declined to intervene on your behalf.
Fact.
Probably the result of the audit...
This week Trump attacked Stephen Curry, Colin Kaepernick, and Jemele Hill in front of cheering audiences wearing "All Lives Matter" t shirts. Almost entirely white!
Cool.
Trump: "those people"
Yep. That is racist.
LOL I invite anyone to write the church and check on Loretta's "fact." And be sure to ask about "the" audit.
Espn, is having a hiss bitch skirt wearing nancy fit.
Yes, the NFL is soft.
First day of fall.
An other season with president in charge.
Hillary, well. Not.
Roger, poor financial, broke down, and stupid.
Which lives of US Citizens in your opinion do not matter?
You're offended and so very, very deeply TRIGGERED, by "ALL LIVES MATTER".
This week Trump attacked Stephen Curry, Colin Kaepernick, and Jemele Hill in front of cheering audiences wearing "All Lives Matter" t shirts. Almost entirely white!
What is you obsession with race? Curry, Kaepernick, and Hill are jerks no matter what their skin color is.
"Almost entirely white"? I can guarantee you the black people of the audience is pretty proportional to the population at large.
Not that it matter that much because race is only important to liberal assholes like you.
Just like your KKK ancestors.
I find a amusing how James is desperately trying to say he's not a failed pastor who was kicked out of his church.
He really thinks people care.
"Not that it matter that much because race is only important to liberal assholes like you.
Just like your KKK ancestors."
He's also of German ancestry...
So, there's that.
"I find a amusing how James is desperately trying to say he's not a failed pastor who was kicked out of his church."
He needs a safe place, lol.
Anyone who would call Obama's "A More Perfect Union"
speech racist is a racist.
The goose stair-stepper is probably one of his favorite exercises at the gym.
Commonsense, if you or Loretta thought for one minute you could prove I was fired from Bellflower Christian Church, you would jump at the chance.
You don't because you know you can't. Period.
First off I just finished an hour and 1/2 in the gym and guess what? I kicked ass.
So can you guys confuse my online personality with who I am on in real life and you don't under fucking stand one bit of it. I'm a good man and proud of it. You people are the fools at fault for Donald J Trump because he is a fucking idiot and you don't understand It's all that he's out to destroy the fucking world with atomic weapons in North Korea and starting from there on out where is it going to go? And one stupid woman where do you think is gonna fucking take it you jerks?
By the way have a nice day
Senseless my family never had any KKK members. You are probably a member of it right now . Wouldn't surprise me rrb is probably your boss.
THIS JUST IN:
THEY WERE TRYING TO BUY MURKOWSKI'S VOTE. HERE'S WHY IT PROBABLY WON'T WORK.
Why Murkowski’s Vote Probably Can’t Be Bought
September 23, 2017 at 5:21 pm EDT
A GOP operative explains to HuffPost why Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AZ) probably can’t be convinced to vote for the Graham-Cassidy health care bill by letting Alaska keep Obamacare while it’s repealed for nearly every other state.
Said the operative: “So Lisa Murkowski votes for this bill, she gets to keep the benefits of the Affordable Care Act in Alaska. She votes against the bill, she keeps them as well. Why would she go for that? The only cost is political in terms of a high profile flip-flop that results in irritating all the constituents who aren’t already angry.”
"I'm a good man and proud of it"
No you aren't.
No good man wishes for someone to die.
Get lost pedo.
Got elders? LOL
After Trump said he rescinded Curry’s invitation, LeBron James slammed Trump on Twitter.
“U bum @StephenCurry30 already said he ain’t going!” James said. “So therefore ain’t no invite. Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up!”
WaPo: Trump turns sport into a political battleground with comments on NFL and Steph Curry
--excerpt--
As president, facing his first major test on issues of race, Trump fumbled. After a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis descended upon Charlottesville, Va. to rally in favor of preserving confederate monuments, Trump was widely condemnded for arguing that the violence that ensued was the result of “both sides,” including counterprotesters who had taken to the streets to oppose the racist marchers.
“Trump has no interest in trying to bridge racial tensions,” said Tim Miller, a Republican operative. “He wants to play into white grievance policies. He wants to continue to divide the country further and to expand the wedge.”
Miller added: “It’s particularly the case on racial issues; Donald Trump is obviously more animated by perceived reverse racism and white grievance than he is by other racial justice issue in this country.”
To many African Americans, the trend has made Trump’s true feelings on matters of race clear.
Go away racist pedo.
Slink off, Liar-etta,
fully discredited.
Pedophile.
Trump didn't turn sports into a political battleground. He just reacted to it.
Millions of Americans agree with Trump.
Maybe if he accused them of acting stupidly you'd be supportive.
Liar-etta.
The rules have changed in the No Fun League to the point that the qb and receives should be dressed in pink.
Has "pastor jim boswell" been posting any more lies accusing people of performing male on male sexual acts" ?
Truly a repulsive "pastor" not worthy of any position of faith.
SPIT and watching him head towards eternal damnation.
Liar-etta.
You can be sued. He should. Your identity is not difficult to find.
I still think that you used the false identity of you "sister" that you claimed that she had cancer and it was fatal. But that is you, not the "late" sister. I have the data on my laptop, with your name and address. So I would suggest that you stop making false allegations.
You people really believe that Donald J Trump is going hurt the ratings of the NFL. Delusional
The New England Journal Of Medicine.
Senate Republicans are making one last attempt to pass legislation repealing major provisions of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) before September 30, when their ability to use the “budget reconciliation” procedure to prevent a Democratic filibuster expires. This effort centers on a new proposal introduced by Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA). The Graham–Cassidy proposal excludes most of the tax cuts that were central to previous “repeal and replace” efforts. But in many ways, it would go even further than the earlier Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA) and the American Health Care Act (AHCA) in reducing health insurance coverage and affordability.
The Graham–Cassidy bill would begin by repealing the individual and employer mandates retroactive to 2016. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) previously estimated that repeal of the individual and employer mandates would immediately increase the number of uninsured Americans by 15 million or more and increase individual market insurance premiums by 20%.1 Uncertainty about how the Graham–Cassidy proposal would affect insurance markets in subsequent years could lead to larger adverse effects on insurance coverage, particularly in light of the prevailing uncertainty with respect to whether the Trump administration will discontinue cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers or take other actions to undermine the individual health insurance market.
Effective in 2020, the bill would repeal the ACA’s Medicaid expansion and marketplace subsidies. In their stead, it would provide states with a block grant. The nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that the block grant would reduce support by $107 billion, or 8%, cumulatively from 2020 through 2026. In 2027, the block grant would end.2
Funding cuts would vary widely between states. The Graham–Cassidy formula would shift money from states that expanded Medicaid coverage under the ACA or increased take-up among previously eligible groups to those that did not. It would also shift money from high-cost to low-cost areas. Funding levels would also not respond to unforeseen contingencies, such as recessions that increase demand for subsidized coverage or faster-than-expected growth in health care costs that increases the cost of providing coverage.
In addition to curtailing and then eliminating federal support for insurance coverage, starting in 2020, the bill would permit states to waive the ACA requirements that insurance sold in the individual market cover essential health benefits and that insurers not vary premiums on the basis of health status, thereby restoring the ability of insurers to engage in “medical underwriting” and effectively deny coverage or limit services on the basis of preexisting health conditions. Since most states allowed medical underwriting before enactment of the ACA and few imposed strong essential health benefit requirements, it seems likely that many states would pursue these options if given the opportunity.
The Graham–Cassidy proposal would also cut federal support for the base Medicaid program by capping per-enrollee spending. Because these caps grow more slowly than Medicaid spending anticipated under current law, the cuts would grow progressively larger over time. Caps on per-enrollee spending, together with other Medicaid provisions in the bill, would cut the base Medicaid program by 8% by 2026, according to calculations from the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (which were based on CBO estimates), and cuts would probably grow steadily thereafter.3
There can be no doubt that Graham–Cassidy would boost the number of people without health insurance. Exactly how many additional people would become newly uninsured under the proposed law is subject to some uncertainty and would depend on various factors.
One factor that would influence the scope of coverage losses is the extent to which states use some or all of the block-grant money to support existing state programs, thereby converting funds targeted for helping the needy afford health services into a form of general budget support. Because the Graham–Cassidy bill lists a series of potential uses for the block-grant money that encompasses programs states already operate, states are likely to have ample opportunity to shift funds in this manner. The incentive to use block-grant funding for general budget support would intensify during recessions, when revenues fall and state balanced-budget requirements often force spending cuts.
States would also face substantial technical hurdles in setting up their own systems for subsidizing individual market coverage. The federal government had nearly 5 years to craft and implement the ACA; under Graham–Cassidy, states would have slightly more than 2 years to do the same. If politics or the nearly inevitable technical problems of implementation delay or prevent a state from enacting and fielding a new program, many residents of that state may be left without any real options.
All told, we estimate that under Graham–Cassidy, an additional 21 million people would be without insurance coverage in 2020 and later years, and this figure may be conservative.4 Implementation challenges, as well as insurer uncertainty about what will happen after block-grant funds expire in 2027, may cause larger reductions toward the beginning and end of the period from 2020 through 2026.
Reductions in insurance coverage would grow again after termination of the block-grant funding in the Graham–Cassidy bill in 2027, when states will be forced either to end programs they established using block-grant funds or to finance them with state funds. A CBO analysis of prior proposals implies that after block-grant funding ends, the number of additional people without health insurance would grow to more than 30 million.5 Because the per capita cap cuts to the base Medicaid program would also grow over time, the number of uninsured people would also continue to increase.
Advocates of the Graham–Cassidy bill have claimed that Congress could reinstate block-grant funding in 2027. However, finding $200 billion annually to maintain the block grant would prove challenging. Late in the next decade, budget pressures will be severe as retiring and aging baby boomers, as well as continued growth in health care costs, drive up Social Security and Medicare outlays. Congress also appears poised to consider tax-cut legislation that would add to those pressures. And many conservatives would probably oppose reinstating such funding on policy grounds.
In normal times, one might suppose that the Graham–Cassidy bill would have little chance of passage. It appeared on the scene just weeks ago, completely circumventing the normal process for developing and considering legislation. It replaces effective coverage programs with a block grant that is inadequate in the aggregate and blind to variations in local costs, shifting considerable risk onto states. It would slash the program that provides health insurance coverage for the poor. Because of these various changes, it would immediately reduce the number of people with health insurance coverage by 15 million — a figure that would grow by millions over time. Yet the Senate is poised to vote on this proposal in the days to come. By September 30, we will know the outcome.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1712614
Broken and broken alky, depended upon the government for your health care and your daily bread.
There can be no doubt that Graham–Cassidy would boost the number of people without health insurance. Exactly how many additional people would become newly uninsured under the proposed law is subject to some uncertainty and would depend on various factors.
The only factor is who chooses to buy and pay outrageous premiums for what is in effect catastrophic health insurance and who doesn't.
Nobody is going to be forced out of a plan they want to pay for.
And nobody is going to be forced to buy a plan that is unaffordable.
Every American should have access to healthcare. That should be a right, not a privilege. The GOP must take that as its goal, not hypocritically enriching the pockets of the pharmaceutical and medical industries for the sake of the wealthy.
A big step. But it must be taken.
"...I tell you that people will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
The GOP must take that as its goal, not hypocritically enriching the pockets of the pharmaceutical and medical industries for the sake of the wealthy.
The funny thing about that is that the pharmaceutical and medical industries are OK with Obamacare and doesn't want to see it repealed.
GRAMMAR: "doesn't" should be "don't" (plural)
They also don't want to see it reformed in the way it should be reformed. To improve it must be to reform it, and to reform it to the benefit of ordinary people, not for the very wealthy.
Well according to Merriam-Webster both don't and doesn't are contractions for does not.
Both are acceptable but doesn't is the more formal form with don't being "more common in the speech of the less educated than in that of the educated; in those places (such as the Midland and southern Atlantic seaboard regions) where it has lasted in educated speech, it is most common with older informants. Surveys of attitudes toward usage show it more widely disapproved in 1971 than it had been 40 years earlier. Its chief use in edited prose is in fiction for purposes of characterization. It is sometimes used consciously, like ain't, to gain an informal effect."
Senseless, you lose every time you take me on in grammar.
He (singular) doesn't is correct.
They (plural) don't is correct.
He (singular) don't is incorrect.
They (plural) doesn't is [laughably] incorrect.
You said they (the pharmaceutical and medical industries, plural) doesn't. Totally incorrect.
Except placing "doesn't" after "Obamacare and" makes it a third person singular.
I will take Merriam Webster's word over yours.
In English, don't is used when speaking in the first and second person plural and singular and the third person plural ("I," "you," "we," and "they"). It can be used to make a negative statement:
I don't like seafood.
You don't want to do that.
We don't want to go home yet.
They don't have to pay now.
It can also be used when asking a question:
You want to buy one, don't you?
Don't they want to go?
Doesn't, on the other hand, is used when speaking in the third person singular only ("he," "she," and "it"). Like don't, doesn't is used to make negative statements:
He doesn't like me.
She doesn't want to leave now.
It doesn't look like he'll be able to make it.
And it is also used when asking a question:
Doesn't she like the play?
It looks like rain, doesn't it?
The big difference in use between don't and doesn't is that don't is also used to give commands (commands in English are always given in the second person singular or plural):
Don't touch the stove!
Doesn't cannot be used in giving commands.
Don't is occasionally used in American English speech and in historical writing as a contraction of does not (as in, "He don't know where he is going."), but this use is now considered improper and should be avoided. Remember that in modern speech and writing, don't cannot be used in the third person singular.
And I will leave you to your deep silliness since it not more that a distraction from the original point which you lost.
Roger Amick said...
You people really believe that Donald J Trump is going hurt the ratings of the NFL. Delusional
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says the delusional nit wit how thinks that jimmy kimmel is single handedly driving the health care debate.
"JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY j said...
John McCain sucks dicks. He's no war hero to me.
September 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM "
Jesus said...
"...I tell you that people will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
let alone all the lies he repeats about Trump....
put another log on the fire.
Roger Amick said...
Every athlete he attacked last night, are African Americans. His opening statement when he was planning on running for President, was the Birther nonsense. He's a white supremacist.
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it's shit like this that has convinced me over the course of many, many years that liberalism is a mental disorder.
how the fuck you get from this:
"Every athlete he attacked last night, are African Americans."
to this:
"He's a white supremacist."
requires dismissal of all logic, reason, and intellect. it exhibits nothing but pure emotion driven by the hatred for a single individual. and it tells me that with every human encounter you judge a person by the color of their skin, not the content of their character.
alky, at this stage of your existence you are so fucked up mentally and emotionally that those in your presence should probably ask themselves if remaining in your presence is a good idea.
Senseless, the real issue here is Obamacare, not grammar. But since you senselessly insist:
Everything you quoted above in boldface is of course correct.
True, some people go around incorrectly saying, He don't, she don't, it don't. As if to say He do not, She do not, it do not. Incorrect.
But nobody goes around saying, They doesn't.
You did, and it is simply, indisputably, incorrect.
"not hypocritically enriching the pockets of the pharmaceutical and medical industries for the sake of the wealthy."
like Obamacare does and why they support it
The "pastor" is not a brain scientist.
I don't insist.
But "They" is first person plural. There's not "They" in the above statement. It's all third person singular.
I just finished a training session at my 24 hour fitness and no matter what you say you're stupid rrb I don't just get on the damn stairs for training I don't do that. This old man will put your ass on the street because you wouldn't be able to keep up fucking idiot.
Donald Trump's approval rate is now 39% and 70% of the people do not trust him to handle the crisis in North Korea . You are you guys are no distinct minority in many different ways . The main one is you don't open up your mind any possibility that you might be wrong you might be back to you Truthers you are wrong but you don't fucking understand it but you're too fucking stupid because you're Republican's that's the way it works .
Now I'm going to get this to the attacks oh boy the Alky Alky Alky he's emotionally disturbed no I am not I just disturbed by the stupidity of certain people that don't understand the facts . Donald Trump is not trying to unite the country . What he is doing is making people like you happy but you are 35 to 30% maybe 40% of the population you better get understanding of that because you're gonna lose your ass . He is going to destroy the Republican fucking party at the rate he's going . You can't understand this you don't comprehend anything outside the little box that you live in. Grow up it might help if you want to do while you think outside and say holy shit yes I might have a fucking right idea but you don't have that you can't do it . It's despicable . Such a tragic because you could end up being atomic dust because of this fucking idiot
Last week we hee started talking to Nancy and Chuck. I thought maybe maybe had something going on but no you get in front of a crowd like that bunch of idiots quite quite white white white people in Alabama and goes crazy crooked Hillary. Grow the fuck up Mr. President . Turn off your goddamn Twitter feed and become the fucking president for all the people not just your little fucking 35 to 40% of the population.
And rrb I kick your ass in the gym shut the fuck up asses hard as a rock . The pictures of you not me idiot . I should go live like to watch.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I just finished a training session at my 24 hour fitness and no matter what you say you're stupid rrb I don't just get on the damn stairs for training I don't do that. This old man will put your ass on the street because you wouldn't be able to keep up fucking idiot.
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WHAT???
My gosh, Senseless.
Give it up.
"They" is THIRD PERSON PLURAL!!!
1st per. singular - I don't
2nd per. singular - you don't
3rd per. singular - he doesn't
3rd per. singular - she doesn't
3rd per. singular - it doesn't
1st per. plural - we don't
2nd per. plural - you don't
3rd per. plural - they don't
And 3rd per. plural
can never take "doesn't."
Never.
Now I'm going to get this to the attacks oh boy the Alky Alky Alky he's emotionally disturbed no I am not I just disturbed by the stupidity of certain people that don't understand the facts . Donald Trump is not trying to unite the country . What he is doing is making people like you happy but you are 35 to 30% maybe 40% of the population you better get understanding of that because you're gonna lose your ass . He is going to destroy the Republican fucking party at the rate he's going . You can't understand this you don't comprehend anything outside the little box that you live in. Grow up it might help if you want to do while you think outside and say holy shit yes I might have a fucking right idea but you don't have that you can't do it . It's despicable . Such a tragic because you could end up being atomic dust because of this fucking idiot
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WHAT???
And rrb I kick your ass in the gym shut the fuck up asses hard as a rock . The pictures of you not me idiot . I should go live like to watch.
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WHAT???
1st per. singular - I don't
2nd per. singular - you don't
3rd per. singular - he doesn't
3rd per. singular - she doesn't
3rd per. singular - it doesn't
1st per. plural - we don't
2nd per. plural - you don't
3rd per. plural - they don't
grazing in the grass is a gas, can you dig it?
Senseless, you said:
"The funny thing about that
is that
the pharmaceutical
and
medical industries
are OK with Obamacare
and doesn't want to see it repealed." Exact quote.
_____________
The pharmaceutical industry
and
the medical industry
constitute,
as you noted,
two "industries"
and that is plural.
It would be correct to say that one industry
"doesn't" want to see Obamacare repealed.
It would be correct to say that two industries
"don't" want to see Obamacare repealed.
But it cannot be correct to say that two industries
"doesn't" want to see Obamacare repealed.
That's the same thing as saying "they" [the two industries]
doesn't want to see Obamacare repealed.
Stop embarrassing yourself, and others.
Re 12:06
Well Ch, you have defended the absolutely indefensible in Trump,
so now I guess you will want to show us how Commonsense's absolutely mistaken
grammar is not at all mistaken.
I shall gladly hear what you have to say.
And be sure to submit what I said to any teacher of English.
MEANWHILE
CNN Poll: Opinion of the Republican Party falls to all-time low
CNN 5 hrs ago
There are fresh signs the Republican Party's brand is in trouble.
Fewer than three in 10 Americans -- 29% -- hold a favorable view of the Republican Party according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. That is down 13 percentage points from March and is the lowest mark for the GOP since CNN began asking the question in 1992.
The pharmaceutical industry and the medical industry constitute, as you noted, two "industries" and that is plural.
It's actually two distinct singular entities linked with the word "and".
It is not plural and neither is Obamacare.
And I am done with your willful stupidity.
Man! I can't believe you!
Are you really this willfully
and TOTALLY stupid?
Obamacare is the direct object and has nothing to do
with determining the form of the verb.
Example:
Mary and Jane don't want to see Obamacare repealed.
The subjects of the sentence, Mary AND Jane are plural
(because one AND one equals two)
and plural subjects of a sentence determine
that the form of the verb must be plural.
CORRECT ENGLISH USAGE:
Mary (single noun) AND Jane (single noun)
don't (plural verb) want to see Obamacare repealed.
"And" makes the two single nouns plural.
INCORRECT ENGLISH USAGE:
Mary (single noun) AND Jane (single noun)
doesn't (single form of the verb)
want to see Obamacare repealed.
"And" makes the two single nouns plural,
requiring a plural verb
-- which "doesn't" is NOT.
BLEEP!!! INCORRECT!!!
ANOTHER CORRECT ENGLISH USAGE:
Mary (single noun) and her sisters (plural noun)
don't (plural form of the verb)
want to see Obamacare repealed.
CORRECT!
INCORRECT ENGLISH USAGE:
Mary (single noun) and her sisters (plural noun)
doesn't (single form of the verb)
want to see Obamacare repealed.
BLEEP!!! INCORRECT!!!
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YOUR SENTENCE:
...the pharmaceutical AND medical
industries (PLURAL NOUN, like sisters)
are (PLURAL FORM OF THE VERB, CORRECT so far)
OK with Obamacare and
doesn't (SINGLE FORM OF THE VERB, BLEEP!!! INCORRECT!!!)
want to see it repealed.
WRONG! TOTALLY WRONG USE OF DOESN'T!
The two industries DON'T want to see it repealed. (CORRECT)
I am surprised that I had to point out to you
something so very obvious.
Run this past any English teacher, genius.
Maybe you can get some help.
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At least even you knew better than to say,
...the pharmaceutical AND medical
industries (PLURAL NOUN)
is (SINGLE FORM OF THE VERB, BLEEP!!! INCORRECT!!!)
OK with Obamacare and
doesn't (SINGLE FORM OF THE VERB, BLEEP!!! INCORRECT!!!)
want to see it repealed.
http:///.www.Englishlanguage.blogspot.com
What????
rrb is confused.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1712614
I guess it finally became clear even to Senseless.
Yep, it must have.
Glad to see even Commonsense could finally see the light. :-)
HERE IT IS
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