Thursday, September 21, 2017

Trump approval pops up?

RCP: Four month high:


Not exactly Ronald Reagan approvals, but better than they have been. Reality is that none of our previous three Presidents have enjoyed much for long term high approvals. I would offer that dating back to the Bush 43 years, we have seen more underwater approval ratings than positive approvals.

143 comments:

James said...

Wonderful, Ch. You used to display here the RealClearPolitics graph daily while Obama was underwater, but stopped it when he started getting above water.

So now start displaying daily that same graph re Trump so we can see how far underwater Trump (who has never been above water on it) still is, and when if ever he gets above water.

That would only be fair.

Anonymous said...




obviously the russians have had an influence on trump's approval numbers. i mean, the evidence is staring us right in the face. and i think we can all agree that there is something particularly fishy about "reich wing" rasmussen and "literally hitler" fox being even MORE negative than the RCP average. how can this be? is there no God???

i will reserve judgement on this until robert mueller has had a chance to fold these results into his "RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA!!!11!" investigation and max-scene waters has had a chance to comment.







Anonymous said...

So now start displaying daily that same graph re Trump so we can see how far underwater Trump (who has never been above water on it) still is, and when if ever he gets above water.

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hey, pastor pederast...

CH doesn't tell you how to sodomize and molest children, so how about you stop telling him how to run his blog?


Loretta said...

LOL

C.H. Truth said...

CH doesn't tell you how to sodomize and molest children, so how about you stop telling him how to run his blog?

It's been explained to James numerous times that RCP discontinued the widget that they had supplied for their approval numbers. But in typical James fashion, that whole concept just sort of goes over his head.

It's like explaining something to a four year old that they do not want to hear... I guess James might have some experience in that?

Laughing, James said...

Actually, Ch may be right that the widget was eventually discontinued, but I distinctly remember that he himself earlier said he had discontinued his using it because, he claimed, it was not being kept accurate enough (updated once a week rather than daily).

Funny how that happened (Ch's discontinuance) just as Obama started really rising in the polls.

Anonymous said...

It's been explained to James numerous times that RCP discontinued the widget that they had supplied for their approval numbers.
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and exactly why and how did you convince them to discontinue the widget, hmmm???

perhaps the RUSSIANS are involved???

might there be a "golden corral" dossier that implicates YOU???

i mean, it's obvious that you conspired with RCP to have this discontinued for the sole reason of protecting trump, seeing as how you are completely consumed with trumpism.

i demand an investigation to commence post haste, and i would demand al franken as the special investigator. we WILL get to the bottom of this CH, i assure you.





C.H. Truth said...

No James...

It simply stopped updating "completely". It never changed. Hadn't changed in like a month when I removed it. Sort of a worthless widget if RCP was not providing any updates to it anymore.

I swear, it's like talking to a four year old.

Or someone who relates well to four year olds...

A great American patriot and pastor named James said...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

There's the graph Ch doesn't want people to see.
Obama was frequently above water.
Trump, never.

Little Bobby said...

Hey Mr Boswell. It's like when your sexy grade school boy of the week pictures stopped coming to your email.

Anonymous said...

There's the graph Ch doesn't want people to see.
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which is exactly why he put up a post which addresses it directly and displays it for all to see.

if there's any flies on you pastor pederast, they're paying rent.


Not entirely convinced, James said...

Stranage, I strongly remember it as being only a short time behind. But I'm sure you are telling the truth... er.. well...

James said...

Actually, he discontinued it after I pointed out that he had quoted it rather than a poll showing improvement for Obama a week later.

But most imortant, James said...

But here's the best and most simple truth:
Trump had NEVER ONCE been above wager on the RealClearPolitics graph. Never ONCE.

I think he holds the record on that. :-)

Anonymous said...

*above water

Decent Democrat James said...

But what I really want to see is this: If the GOP
leadership really is stupid enough to pass the Repeal Obamacare bill with no firm knowledge about how many
people it will deprive of healthcare or how much it
will cost.

C.H. Truth said...

Okay James...

Go find the widget on RCP. Since you believe it still exists and I just stopped using it on my own.

Anonymous said...




hey pastor pederast...

are you going to beat this dead horse, or sodomize it to death?

caliphate4vr said...

LOL

A pedo, bestiality necrophiliac

James, resorting to French, said...

I believe it still existed WHEN you stopped using it, based on what you said at the time. Reproduce the posts, sil vous plais.

Stressing what's really important, James said...

But what I really want to see is this: If the GOP
leadership really is stupid enough to pass the
Repeal Obamacare bill with no firm knowledge about
how many people it will deprive of healthcare or
how much it will cost.

Loretta said...

"A pedo, bestiality necrophiliac"

LOL

caliphate4vr said...

It deprives 0 of coverage idiot. Why should Cali, Mass and NY get 36% of the federal funds when they comprise 20% of the population

Retard

James said...

GOP Bill Has No Support from the Health Care Industry

First Read: “Backers of the GOP Graham-Cassidy health-care bill – Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) plus President Trump via Twitter – maintain it doesn’t touch protections for those with pre-existing conditions. And Cassidy also says the legislation will cover more people than current law does.

“They all have one problem: NO ONE FROM THE HEALTH INDUSTRY IS BACKING THEM UP. The health insurers are against Graham-Cassidy, with the BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD ASSOCIATION saying that the legislation ‘contains provisions that would allow states to waive key consumer protections, as well as undermine safeguards for those with pre-existing medical condition.’ The AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION is also against the bill. Ditto the AMERICAN HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION.”

“So if Graham/Cassidy/Trump claim that the legislation protects those with pre-existing conditions and expands coverage, the question follows: WHIS STUDY OR INDUSTRY EXPERT BACKS THAT UP?
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Waiting for the answer. And waiting... And waiting... and....

James, quoting WaPo, said...

[DESPERATE, the]
GOP Bets It’s Better to Fail than to Not Try Again

Washington Post:
“That bet, made out of fear rather than a sense that victory is any nearer than it has been all year, can be traced to this year’s August recess — the five-week stretch back home that immediately followed the Senate’s previous, failed attempt to overhaul the nation’s health-care laws. The late-summer break, distant as it already feels to many of us, remains fresh in some lawmakers’ minds.

“It did not entail the kind of high-profile clashes at town halls that Democrats faced eight years ago as they began drafting the Affordable Care Act — or that House Republicans confronted at the start of the year, when their repeal effort took shape. Nevertheless, according to GOP senators and aides, Republicans faced an unrelenting barrage of confrontations with some of their closest supporters, donors and friends. The moments occurred in small gatherings that proved even more meaningful than a caustic town hall — at meetings with local business executives, at church, at parks.”
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Go ahead and pass it. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead!

Anonymous said...




LOL:



"By posting that golf ball video, Trump is now on par with some of history's worst leaders: Hitler, Stalin, and Moe from The 3 Stooges."

—Frank Fleming



Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

*WHICH STUDY

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

lol THAT IS FUNNY, RAT.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous caliphate4vr said...
It deprives 0 of coverage idiot. Why should Cali, Mass and NY get 36% of the federal funds when they comprise 20% of the population

Retard
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hey cali, what's your take on this -



Tony Perkins:

"Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) think they have the answer to the $3 trillion failure that's destroying lives, spiking costs, and crushing freedom. Under their measure, which relies heavily on block grants, states would have the autonomy to design their own health care plans.


'One of the most interesting reforms in Graham-Cassidy,' Forbes explains, 'is that, over time, it ends a significant bias in the Medicaid program toward wealthy states like California, Massachusetts, New York, and Maryland. Medicaid is jointly funded by the federal government and the states; on average, Washington foots about 60 percent of the bill. In theory, the federal government is supposed to foot higher proportions of the bill for poorer states; but because the minimum match is set to 50 percent, a number of very wealthy states receive a lot more money than they should.'

It would scrap Obamacare's individual (and unconstitutional) insurance mandate, a lot of its burdensome taxes, and, most importantly, a major funding stream to Planned Parenthood. ...

With just two weeks to cycle the bill through the House and Senate, the GOP's biggest enemy may be the calendar. ... Did the American people elect leaders who keep their word — or politicians who make empty promises to win? In 11 days, we'll know."



caliphate4vr said...

You go back to high risk pools which were working far better than bumblecare does

High Risk Pools Worked Just Fine Before Obamacare

caliphate4vr said...

'One of the most interesting reforms in Graham-Cassidy,' Forbes explains, 'is that, over time, it ends a significant bias in the Medicaid program toward wealthy states like California, Massachusetts, New York, and Maryland.

exactly rat

Look what Jawn Effin Kerry got shoved into Bumblecare

As the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was winding its way through Congress, a backroom deal allowed every hospital in Massachusetts to benefit from the labor rates paid by tiny, 19-bed Nantucket Cottage Hospital. The sweetheart deal came at the expense of nearly every other hospital in the U.S. Known to many as the “Bay State Boondoggle,” the sleight of hand has already resulted in $1.3 billion in additional payments to Massachusetts hospitals and could reach $3 billion throughout 10 years.

At the heart of the issue is Section 3141 of the ACA. The provision allowed Massachusetts hospitals to gerrymander the arcane Medicare wage index system to their advantage by using an extremely remote, low volume hospital located on an extremely high cost of living island as the floor for all wages statewide. The increase benefited Massachusetts significantly, and a handful of other states marginally. It disadvantaged the vast majority.

Myballs seeing America become great again said...

Clapper, having been caught lying about the Trump campaign wiretap, now says he didn't know about the fisa warrant. So now the question becomes either he is still lying or the obama administration did it behind his back, which would be even more serious.

Where is the special counsel for the obama administration?

Anonymous said...



Look what Jawn Effin Kerry got shoved into Bumblecare
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geezus. you pull this shit in the private sector and you end up in jail.

pay attention liberals. this is yet another example how you got trump.

Anonymous said...




Obama and his allies had violated the norms so often for their policy goals that they couldn’t afford to be replaced by anyone but one of their own. The more Obama relied on the imperial presidency of executive orders, the less he could afford to be replaced by anyone who would undo them. The more his staffers lied and broke the law on everything from the government shutdown to the Iran nuke sellout, the more desperately they needed to pull out all the stops to keep Trump out of office. And the more they did it, the more they couldn’t afford not to do it. Abuse of power locks you into the loop familiar to all dictators. You can’t stop riding the tiger. Once you start, you can’t afford to stop.

If you want to understand why Samantha Power was unmasking names, that’s why. The hysterical obsession with destroying Trump comes from the top down. It’s not just ideology. It’s wealthy and powerful men and women who ran the country and are terrified that their crimes will be exposed.

It’s why the media increasingly sounds like the propaganda organs of a Communist country. Why there are street riots and why the internet is being censored by Google and Facebook’s “fact checking” allies.

It’s not just ideology. It’s raw fear.

The left is sitting on the biggest crime committed by a sitting president. The only way to cover it up is to destroy his Republican successor.

A turning point in history is here.

If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267923/why-obama-really-spied-trump-daniel-greenfield


Loretta said...

"If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends."

Truth.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/health-care-system-hates-new-obamacare-repeal-bill_us_59c2e7c7e4b06f93538c4d0a

The list of medical organizations opposed to the repeat and replace Obama care is almost universal. AARP, etc, etc. This is a common tactical Republican party tactic to avoid an informed decision. The COB hasn't been able to complete a review of the bill.

It has failed "The Kimmel Test" because it leaves the coverage of pre-existing conditions to the individual states. This also takes away the subsidies from the states that had signed up the expansion of Medicaid, and gives it to states like South Carolina, where the primary sponsor, Lindsey Graham they get millions.

Senator John McCain is not yet clear if he will vote yes or no. The pressure coming from the social media is overwhelming evidence that a majority of the people are opposed to the repeat and replace Obama care b.s.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Repeal spelling error fix to keep the republican racist bastard from correcting the spelling. the guy who can't pass english 101.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

America ends.

Wow

Laughter is excellent in response to the ridiculous comment.

Lolol o.k. thanks for the humor dumb ass.

cowardly king obama said...

"With as much screaming and yelling as we’ve heard from the Left since Trump became president, we almost forget that it’s not really the Republicans who are in trouble these days. Sure, plenty of people on both sides of the aisle aren’t exactly thrilled with a President Trump, but the Republican Party itself even with the headaches in Congress, is still winning elections.

Not so much for the Democrats.

And sheesh, when you’ve lost TIME magazine?"

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/09/21/winning-times-new-cover-features-the-democratic-party-and-they-wont-like-it-one-bit/

"SHRUNK DEMOCRATS ARE IN THEIR WORST SHAPE SINCE 1929. Can anything save them?" cover of Time mag

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Three children were just rescued from the collapsed school in Mexico City. Praise the Lord.

C.H. Truth said...

It has failed "The Kimmel Test"

Seriously?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

They have found the children, but not yet out. Given water and infusion.

:Laughing, James said...

"If Obama goes down, the left will go down with him. If his coup succeeds, then America ends."

Rightest radio was saying the same thing about Obama's first election and then his second.

James said...

Hope those little ones can be extracted, and survive.

Anonymous said...

Blogger C.H. Truth said...
It has failed "The Kimmel Test"

Seriously?
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seriously. this is what defines the intellectual left these days. listen to kimmel's diatribe to witness outright lies and misleading "facts." the guy's an asshole who's been using his sick infant as a prop to be a pitchman for 0linsky-care. disgusting.

and for kimmel's "talent" - he hasn't been funny since "the man show" with adam corolla.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It has failed "The Kimmel Test"

Gees, you don't know how much this has an affect on the voters on social media is overwhelming. Millions of people are opposed to to the repeal of the pre-existing conditions, and yes, Jimmy the Kimmel Test has motivated millions to call their representatives.

Anonymous said...

Gees, you don't know how much this has an affect on the voters on social media is overwhelming.
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they're LOW INFORMATION voters, alky. so i'm sure they can be influenced by a clown. especially a clown who is such a low-life piece of shit as to use his own sick infant as a prop for 0linsky-care. it takes a special kind of piece of shit to stoop THAT low...

...like you.

Anonymous said...

"SHRUNK DEMOCRATS ARE IN THEIR WORST SHAPE SINCE 1929. Can anything save them?" cover of Time mag
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meathead reiner has just launched his own little RUSSIA!!!11! circle jerk, so there's that.

he got morgan freeman on board. now, if he can only get jimmy kimmel...


C.H. Truth said...

Jimmy the Kimmel Test has motivated millions

Jimmy the Kimmel?

Like

Jimmy the Greek?

Btw... Kimmel's entire audience is barely 2 million viewers. Approximately 10% of what Trump got in season one of the Apprentice.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm far more intelligent and informed than you can imagine.

Commonsense said...

No, you're not.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
I'm far more intelligent and informed than you can imagine.
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yet you believe jimmy kimmel has a significant level of influence over the 0linsky-care debate.

yeah... what intelligent, rational person can argue with THAT logic?

next you'll be telling us that the 'ellen' show will be the definitive harbinger of the 2018 mid-terms. by a landslide, no less.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Since you think that shouting "Your Fired " qualified Trump to be the President of The United States, your judgement in the last year or so, is very questionable.

Loretta said...

"I'm far more intelligent and informed than you can imagine."

Lord I hope so...

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm far more intelligent and informed than you can imagine, is the Coldheartedtruth.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Here are the late-night numbers for July 17-21, 2017:

BROADCAST

Show Net Adults 18-49, 7/17 – 7/21 Viewers (millions), 7/17 – 7/21 Adults 18-49 season to date Viewers (millions) season to date
11:35 p.m.
The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon NBC 0.59/3 2.42 0.79/4 3.08
Late Show with Stephen Colbert CBS 0.43/3 2.87 0.58/3 3.25
Jimmy Kimmel Live – R ABC 0.37/2 1.62 0.48/3 2.18
12:35 a.m.
Late Night with Seth Meyers – R NBC 0.33/3 1.26 0.40/3 1.53
Nightline ABC 0.25/2 1.10 0.32/2 1.43
Late Late Show with James Corden – R CBS 0.23/2

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Kimmel's entire audience is barely 2 million viewers. CH truthlessnness

Read the ratings above

Loretta said...

If you have to tell people that you're intelligent, you've already lost.

Loretta said...

"Meanwhile, ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live” fell from a 0.43 to a 0.37 and “Nightline” dipped four-hundredths of a point from a 0.29 to a 0.25."

Myballs seeing America become great again said...

Obama still out giving speeches. He just referred to himself 96 times in 48 minutes.

Between he and hilliary, we're really seeing why voters want them both to go away.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

t wasn't that long ago that the effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act died once and for all in the Senate.

Or so many thought.

But like the killer robot in The Terminator or the undead fighters in Game of Thrones, the repeal effort has risen once again from the ashes in the form of a bill known as Graham-Cassidy.

The bill, introduced Sept. 13 by Sens. Bill Cassidy, R-La., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., with little hope of going anywhere, has gained steam in its short life and now looks like it may actually come to a vote in the Senate in the coming days.

Many opponents say the bill will result in millions of people losing their insurance coverage.

"The Graham-Cassidy plan would take health insurance coverage away from millions of people, eliminate critical public health funding, devastate the Medicaid program, increase out-of-pocket costs and weaken or eliminate protections for people living with pre-existing conditions," says Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, in a statement.

Article continues after sponsorship

Here's what it does:

Graham-Cassidy essentially deconstructs all of the major programs created by the Affordable Care Act, gathers up the money and hands it over to states to run their own health care programs.

It gets rid of both the subsidies that help people buy individual health insurance policies and the reimbursements to insurance companies for offering price breaks on copayments and deductibles to the lowest-income customers.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Since you think that shouting "Your Fired " qualified Trump to be the President of The United States
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oh look...

a brand new alky strawman.


meanwhile, your candidate sucked so fucking bad she couldn't even win a DNC-rigged election.


Loretta said...

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/19/552044236/latest-gop-effort-to-replace-obamacare-could-end-health-care-for-millions

Loretta said...

He's very intelligent.

Anonymous said...




here's your link, alky:

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/19/552044236/latest-gop-effort-to-replace-obamacare-could-end-health-care-for-millions

"Graham-Cassidy essentially deconstructs all of the major programs created by the Affordable Care Act, gathers up the money and hands it over to states to run their own health care programs."


true. what it does not contain is a provision which would refuse to bail out a state that completely fucks things up with their block grant $$$.

so yeah, other than that i like this. it leaves the states to their own devices. in the cases of mexifornia, new york, and other hell holes run by liberals, it gives them the freedom to chase their single payer dreams. for responsible states, they are given the resources to help the truly needy while leaving alone those who enjoy what they currently have.

look at it this way alky -

it's PRO-CHOICE health insurance.

Anonymous said...

Many opponents say the bill will result in millions of people losing their insurance coverage.
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and the rest of us...

...who are not pathological fucking liars...

...understand that it frees people from mandates that forced them to buy under penalty of law what they neither wanted or needed.



shove your nanny state up your ass, alky.


C.H. Truth said...

Roger -

Jimmy Kimmel Live – R ABC 0.37/2 1.62 0.48/3 2.18
12:35 a.m.



the 2.18 is the amount of viewers... in millions. You do realize this, correct?

C.H. Truth said...

Many opponents say the bill will result in millions of people losing their insurance coverage.

You spend the same amount of money... just give it to the states to spend.

And this will result in millions of people losing insurance, huh?

Because Obamacare and the Federal agencies running it are far more efficient than the states.

Anonymous said...

You spend the same amount of money... just give it to the states to spend.

And this will result in millions of people losing insurance, huh?
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you dare to challenge the towering intellect of the supreme commander and grand orator of the So Cal AA???

a man whose political prognostication skills are the things of legend???

a man who incorrectly predicted not one BUT TWO presidential landslides???

a man who holds court at the local VFW hall while his wife plays bingo???

a man who once commandeered the legendary PT Cruiser both before AND after it was cool???

tread carefully here, coldheart. you may have met your match.



Anonymous said...

Nov. 9th, 2016, 3 am Central Time.

CNN Called the election for Trump.

Since then all the left has done is cry.

Polls, before the election, almost all wrong, so now they must be right.

Ok, they are right, 45 is still the US President and there is not a freaking thing any of you leftist can do about it.

Anonymous said...

HB, You said you failed to move when you could have made a "million dollar profit"

Tell us again how smart you are, ,😂

commie said...

`stump broke kd posted

HB, You said you failed to move when you could have made a "million dollar profit"



Grow up asshole.......Police never join unions either.....idiot

commie said...

You spend the same amount of money.

Unfortunately again for you CH, that is not what the latest version includes.....keep wishing it is all you ever got.....LOL

Anonymous said...

HB's pimple, I am just quoting HB.

IF, you don't like it take up the issue with him.

I do declare.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

THE WASHINGTON POST
Democracy Dies in Darkness

The CBO can’t score Republicans’ health-care plan in time. That’s where Jimmy Kimmel comes in.
By Philip Rocco September 20 at 3:35 PM

Ten days. That’s how long Congress has to consider the latest attempt by Republicans to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA) under the filibuster-free budget reconciliation process. Powerful donors have put intense pressure on Republicans to get the job done. But WITH MOST VOTERS STILL OPPOSED TO REPEALING AND REPLACING THE ACA [remember how Ch used to yell about listening to the will of the people?], the bill’s co-authors, Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.), face a dilemma: how to pass legislation that A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS OPPOSE?

Either by design or as a side-effect, Cassidy and Graham’s bill creates a blind spot for voters and the public. By converting the ACA’s major spending provisions into a block grant to the states and by creating waivers that allow states to opt out of the ACA’s consumer protections, Cassidy and Graham claim that they are giving states flexibility to design health revisions that meet local needs. Yet it is also plausible that — if the bill passes — public attention will move away from Congress to 50 state capitals, where a confusing and fragmented story will unfold. Voters may well blame problems with repeal and replace on governors and legislatures, not congressional Republicans.

There is evidence that this has happened in the past. During Hurricane Katrina, for example, the fragmentation of responsibility for emergency response allowed national political actors to shift blame for policy failures to the states. Devolving power from the federal government to the states has also long been a Republican campaign promise. Yet the block grants and waivers in Cassidy-Graham have an even more immediate political benefit: They make it easier for the Republican bill to survive the scrutiny of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) without taking damage.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CONTINUED

Block grants and waivers make it harder to analyze legislation

Block grants and waivers make it cumbersome for CBO to project the potential effects of repeal legislation in a timely way. Consider the case of Rep. Tom MacArthur’s (R-N.J.) amendment to the House’s initial “repeal and replace” bill, which allowed states to opt out of several key ACA regulations. This amendment was introduced on the evening of April 25, and had legislative language that was challenging for the CBO to score before the House’s May 4 vote.

The complexity of gathering data and modeling likely policy choices in 50 states meant that the CBO took until May 24 to provide an estimate of the amended House bill. They projected that 51 million people under 65 would be uninsured, compared to 28 million under the ACA. Yet the House voted in the absence of a score, prompting former CBO director Douglas Elmendorf to criticize the move as violating congressional norms. “This is not a post-office naming bill,” Elmendorf said. “[T]his is an overhaul of the U.S. health-care system, and to proceed to a vote without any serious estimates of what it will do to the country is unbelievable to me.”

The waiver provisions also gave supporters of the MacArthur amendment the opportunity to dismiss the CBO’s estimates as uncertain and subjective. To predict how many states would pursue a waiver, the CBO had to make assumptions about how elected officials are likely to behave. While this does not make modeling impossible — indeed, the CBO can project what will happen to insurance coverage under a variety of scenarios — it is a political question that is not ideally suited to standard economic models. MacArthur himself blasted the CBO’s score, suggesting that he didn’t think waivers would destabilize the individual marketplace and that, “just because a group of auditors down the block has created a model with ifs ands or maybes that doesn’t make it a gospel.”

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CONTINUED

However, complexity can cut both ways

Congress’s budget reconciliation rules require the CBO to analyze how Cassidy-Graham will affect the federal deficit. However, they do not require it to analyze the bill’s effects on health-insurance coverage. Increasing the complexity of CBO’s modeling decisions by including block grants and waivers means that the office will have a very hard time providing a full analysis before the Senate’s vote. Decentralizing authority also makes it easier for supporters of Cassidy-Graham to claim the CBO’s estimates are off base, since it is problematic to turn the political future in 50 states into a single estimate of predicted coverage.

Ironically, by undermining the CBO and lambasting policy experts, the Republicans may also generate a new sort of backlash. Under conditions of uncertainty, and when vital health benefits are on the line, voters may be more likely to assume the worst. In a post-technocratic era, Americans may be more likely to heed the warnings of people like the national TV host Jimmy Kimmel. Throughout the repeal debate, Kimmel has been a one-man CBO, suggesting that any bill must ensure that “no family should be denied medical care, emergency or otherwise, because they can’t afford it.” By allowing states to opt out of these guarantees, Cassidy-Graham failed the test, Kimmel said in his opening monologue Tuesday night, and later tweeted to his followers that they should call their senators to register their disappointment with Cassidy for lying about the contents of the bill.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

CONTINUED

Kimmel rips into Sen. Cassidy's health-care bill - twice

Late-night host Jimmy Kimmel attacked the Cassidy-Graham health-care plan on Sept. 19 and 20, and hit back at Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) for failing his own standard, "the Kimmel test."

To pass a revision that is massively unpopular, Republicans have pushed legislative procedure to the limit. Their tactics have also, whether deliberately or as a by-product, fueled public debate with distrust in experts and numbers. If this works, it will move decisions from the federal to the state level, so that voters may stop blaming national legislators for their health care outcomes. However, Republicans are betting that the complexity of the process will allow them to avoid blame for weakening consumer protections in the ACA. That’s a risky gamble indeed.

Philip Rocco is an assistant professor of political science at Marquette University and a co-author of “Obamacare Wars: Federalism, State Politics, and the Affordable Care Act.” His current book project examines how advisory commissions reshaped the politics of U.S. federalism.

This article is one in a series supported by the MacArthur Foundation Research Network on Opening Governance that seeks to work collaboratively to increase our understanding of how to design more effective and legitimate democratic institutions using new technologies and new methods.

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Republicans Attempt to Buy Murkowski’s Vote

A Republican Senate aide told Independent Journal Review that Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) are attempting to buy Sen. Lisa Murkowski’s (R-AK) support through new changes to their controversial Obamacare repeal proposal before an expected vote next week.

“This draft includes 3 separate provisions benefiting Alaska.”

Most interesting: Alaska and Hawaii would “continue to receive Obamacare’s premium tax credits” despite them getting repealed in the rest of the country.
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That really stinks, doesn't it?

Honest, decent, truthful Rev. said...

Health Care Debate Scheduled for Next Week

CNN will host a town hall with Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA), who will be debating health care with Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) on Monday, September 25 at 9 p.m. ET.

caliphate4vr said...

Pedophile

Must you always be a fucking ass and spam shit no one will read?

James said...

I'm a troll.

caliphate4vr said...

the 2.18 is the amount of viewers... in millions. You do realize this, correct?

I don't think Roger understands, but he's more intelligent and informed than anyone. Just ask him.

Anonymous said...

It is always the Left that shows no respect for this blog.

Anonymous said...

"Liberals are SUPERIOR" Alky

Anonymous said...

#MAGA

Household wealth swelled by $1.7 Trillion, to 96.3 trillion, another record under 45.

THE KEY DRIVERS
1, stock ownership
2, Home ownership
3,

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You guys all focused on Jimmy Kimmel.

But our formerly revered host still claims this and it is an outright lie, and Kimmel would call him a liar too, if he gave a shit about an obscure blogger. He claims that the pre-existing conditions are not affected by the Republican sabotage on ObamaCare because the first black President had a relatively successful two terms.

1: He got affordable medical insurance to over 20 million Americans.
2: He lead us our of the deepest recession since 1929.Don't try and say that Trump is the architect of the fist 9 months of his term, because the fiscal year, passed while Obama was President expires on October 1, 2017. After that it's all his.

Every single insurance and health care associations are strongly opposed to the proposed law, because the uncertainty of how each state will react, is going to cause an immediate increase the cost of insurance in most stats.The AARP and all the other medical associations, the Doctors and even most insurance companies don't like it. The only ones ho love it, are the pharmaceutical vendors like it, because there are no cost controls so their profits will be through the roof, and their contributions to the Republican party, that Citizens' United let them bribe the Republicans running for re election.

A majority of those polled oppose the repeal and replace of ObamaCare,aka the ACA. The states that signed on to Medicaid are cut off, states like NY, CA, PA and others will be saddles with HUGH increases of costs for the state run insurance plans that the Republican law is passed. But states like, surprisingly, yah right, South Carolina and others will get big bucks. So it's how they get reelected, but they screw millions of other Americans and hoping the " hurry up and die", Ten Republican governors are opposed to this pile of feces.

Only one more Republican has to come out in opposition, but I admit I don't know how it will go. I'm hopeful that there are at least a couple Republicans with a conscious.

Now one more comment on the polling numbers. A majority of both Republicans and Democrats are in favor of Trump working with "Chuck and Nancy". But a significant majority are not thrilled with his bellicosity in regards to North Korea. A massive war on the peninsula will result in millions of human lives. His childish use of "Rocket Man" is typical of his sixth grade style of speech when it's not written by someone else. I think it's rather embarrassing for the country I love. But beyond that, if he does not go back to being "Trump" we saw for the first eight months, he may end up being at least marginally successful. No matter what CH thinks, I don't "Hate" Trump. But of course, he worries me, especially in his what I think is irresponsible foreign "Trump Agenda", are dangerous, beyond anything since World War II.

And of course I spent 1.5 hours in the gym today, and my trainer said in a text, "you did really good today" Not bad for a 66 year old man, less than four months after a liver transplant.

I know for sure, "incoherent" from the old Alzheimer's victim and the 'alky' crap from the blog blatant racist, "shoot them at the border and let the rotting bodies act as a deterrent".

Adios amigos.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Just How Seriously Should We Treat The Threat From Graham-Cassidy?
Sep. 21, 2017 2:27 pm
By Thom Hartmann A...
Just how seriously should people be treating the threat from Graham-Cassidy?

Don't believe the Republican lies.

The Graham-Cassidy bill that they're trying to force the Congress without so much as a hearing is the cruelest attempt at Obamacare repeal yet.

It's also complete repudiation of our nation's founding values.

Trumpcare 3.0 - aka the Graham-Cassidy bill - is remarkably cruel - even by Republican standards.

For starters, it phases out Obamacare's Medicaid expansion AND Medicaid as a whole -- that's right -- the entire program!

Graham-Cassidy also slashes federal healthcare funding by billions - and then turns it into block grants that states can do whatever they want with -- and I mean literally do whatever they want with.

They don't have to use that to help people pay for healthcare.

And as if that wasn't bad enough, Graham-Cassidy also allows insurers to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions.

If it gets signed into law and you're a 40-year-old with a pre-existing condition - like, say, asthma - insurers could slap you with a $4,000 premium surcharge.

If you've got heart disease - that surcharge could rise as high as $18,000.

And if you've got cancer - insurers could make you pay as much as $140,000 extra.

Whatever happened to the general welfare?

Loretta said...

"And of course I spent 1.5 hours in the gym today, and my trainer said in a text, "you did really good today" Not bad for a 66 year old man, less than four months after a liver transplant."

No one cares.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

All 50 States Just Took An Unprecedented Step Against Senate’s Trumpcare Bill

A tweet from Andy Slavitt, President Obama’s former Medicaid chief, is sending shockwaves through social media. The former Acting Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services just tweeted out that the bipartisan Medicaid Directors from all fifty U.S. states have issued a joint negative statement about the Graham-Cassidy Obamacare repeal bill.

The Board of Directors of the National Association of Medicaid Directors (NAMD) urges Congress to carefully consider the significant challenges posed by the Graham-Cassidy legislation. State Medicaid Directors are strong proponents of state innovation in the drive towards health care system transformation. Our members are committed to ensuring the programs we operate improve health outcomes while also being fiscally responsible to state and federal taxpayers. In order to succeed, however, these efforts must be taken in a thoughtful, deliberative, and responsible way. We are concerned that this legislation would undermine these efforts in many states and fail to deliver on our collective goal of an improved healthcare system.

They then proceed to enumerate in detail all the ways that Graham-Cassidy will harm both health care outcomes and fiscal responsibility, citing “the apparent lack of federal funding in the bill to support these critical activities,” and the fact that Republican lawmakers are in a “rush” to pass the bill without “thorough discussion, examination, and analysis.”

They reiterated the concerns they had laid out in a June 26 statement protesting the Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, one of the Republicans’ prior attempts to repeal Obamacare: “[T]he per capita cap growth rates for Medicaid in the Senate bill are insufficient and unworkable.” Unlike the June statement, however, today’s was unanimous.

The Republican Governor of Arizona just came out against the TrumpCare bill.

http://verifiedpolitics.com/50-states-just-took-unprecedented-step-senates-trumpcare-bill/

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You care. You wish I was dead.

Loretta said...

Stop projecting, drama queen.

You just don't matter to me, lol.

KD, just the facts said...

Now it's for the Kansas City it he can go f*** himself a f*** the cow. But I can't lay off of him cuz he's an idiot inherited money he couldn't make a dime on himself. He's too stupid and he also has my house house payments and all the other stuff completely wrong I'm sitting here giggling this is too funny for your information K pots I bought the house in Fullerton for $182,000 sold for 369 thousand. Yes if I sold it at the peak, well I have million dollar profit wouldn't have been too bad. " Drama Alky

Anonymous said...


thom hartmann, alky?

https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2017/09/just-how-seriously-should-we-treat-threat-graham-cassidy

you do know he's one of the lead stooges at RT.

what's RT, you ask?

RUSSIA Television, you fucking idiot.

https://www.rt.com/


so alky...

colluding with the russians to spread their propaganda on this blog, eh?

hmmm...

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
You care. You wish I was dead.
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shit alky, you wish you mattered that much to any of us.

Anonymous said...

It is so sad how much the left want to talk about themselves.

Jane and Alky, you save the trapped kid in mexico, hoax story. Idiots.

Anonymous said...

Damn RRB, slapping Alky that hard is fun to watch.

Jane, alky and opium. A little clue for you all, your life was made meaningless by you.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I would never have made a million dollar profit. At the peak of the housing bubble, it comparables were going for approximately$550,000. I owed approximately half of that, $250,000 more of less. I don't have a written statement to that, but It's close.

Secondly, idiot, if I had taken that approximately $255,000 and bought a newer and better house, I would have lost my ass when the Bush Great Recession hit and the housing bubble burst, I would have been financially destroyed. But, I didn't and I am not broke, or as you claim, in your complete stupidity. Mr Inherited from his parents, needs to just shut up on my financial health and health insurance coverage under Medicare.

Anonymous said...

HaHaHa@ Alky.

All I have to do is quote you.

"Triggered"

Loretta said...

"shit alky, you wish you mattered that much to any of us."

LOL, exactly.

Loretta said...

"The American Medical Association (AMA)"

Don't want to hear from the same people who screwed up in the first place.

Anonymous said...

Yep. Same with AARP.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Many of the groups now opposing the Graham-Cassidy bill were backers of Obamacare when it was passed in 2010, and have opposed any major repeal effort. Here’s a list of some of the health-care groups that have come out against the latest measure:

American Hospital Association
American Medical Association
American College of Physicians
American Academy of Family Physicians
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network
American Diabetes Association
American Heart Association
American Lung Association
Association of American Medical Colleges
Arthritis Foundation
Cystic Fibrosis Foundation
Children’s Hospital Association
March of Dimes
National Multiple Sclerosis Society
National Organization for Rare Disorders


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-19/health-groups-line-up-against-latest-obamacare-repeal-effort

As usual the Republican party doesn't give a damn about most Americans. They will throw millions of us, quite possibly some of you idiots into an health insurance nightmare, with monthly payments into the $5,000/month range.

It would not affect me, but I would be laughing out loud as you would still cling to your illogical and ridicules ideological positions.

Anonymous said...

Really, Triggered Alky.
$60,000 yearly premiums?

Anonymous said...

BOOKMARKED.

$60,000 PREMIUM PAYMENTS.

Lordie--' Triggered Alky

caliphae4vr said...

e $5,000/month range.

You are such histrionic bitch. They are leveling the field 4 states with 25% of the population get 47% of Bumblecare funding, that's not fair, a term a Donks should understand.

What I guaranteed is when Cali inevitably shits the bed with their funding we don't further bail their ass out

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A new study by Avalere Health finds that red states would disproportionately benefit, while 34 states would be hit hard by cuts under the proposal for Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

The Associated Press: Study: Most States Would Take A Hit From GOP Health Bill
Most states would take a stiff budgetary hit if the latest Senate GOP health care bill becomes law, according to an analysis released Wednesday. That would likely result in more uninsured Americans. The study by the consulting firm Avalere Health found that the Graham-Cassidy bill would lead to an overall $215 billion cut to states in federal funding for health insurance, through 2026. Reductions would grow over time. (Alonso-Zaldivar, 9/20)
San Francisco Chronicle: California Would Lose $78 Billion — More Than Any Other State — Under GOP Health Bill
California would lose more federal funding than any other state under the latest GOP plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the health policy consulting firm Avalere Health. By 2026, California would lose $78 billion in federal money for the Medi-Cal insurance program for the poor and in federal subsidies for low-income residents who buy health insurance through Covered California, the state exchange created under the ACA. (Ho, 9/20)

The Oregonian: Oregon Hardest-Hit State In US Under GOP'S New Health Care Bill
Oregon would be the hardest hit state – losing at least $13 billion in funding -- if the latest Republican health care bill becomes law, according to two analyses of the bill issued this week. Avalere Health, a health care consulting firm, on Wednesday pegged Oregon’s losses at $13 billion over 10 years and $111 billion over 20 years. (Manning, 9/20)

Georgia Health News: Study: Georgia Would See Big Gains Under GOP Bill, But Not Long Term
Georgia and several other Southern states initially would gain in federal health care funding under a Republican bill speeding through the U.S. Senate, a new analysis finds. But that effect would begin to wear off after a decade, and ultimately could lead to losses for all states as compared with current funding streams, according to the study by consulting firm Avalere Health, released Wednesday. (Miller, 9/20)


The Washington Post: Under Latest Health-Care Bill, Red States Would Benefit Disproportionately
The latest Republican proposal for curtailing the Affordable Care Act was assembled with such haste that it may get a vote before a full cost estimate is finished. But it is not a new idea. At its core, the bill introduced by Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) would implement a decades-old conservative concept, capping the amount that taxpayers spend on Medicaid and giving states full control over the program. As he’s sold the legislation to conservative governors and activists, Graham has described it as a possible triumph for federalism, and a way to end the progressive dream of universal health care managed from Washington. (Weigel, 9/20)

The Washington Post: Cassidy-Graham Bill Would Cut Funding To 34 States, New Report Shows
More than half of the overall cuts in the legislation — named for its primary sponsors, Republican Sens. Bill Cassidy (La.) and Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) — would come from Medicaid, the analysis shows. States with relatively low medical costs, skimpy Medicaid benefits and no program expansion would win out. Texas would gain more than any state, about $35 billion from 2020 through 2026. On the other hand, states with higher-priced medicine and generous benefits for their low-income residents, such as California and New York, would lose billions of dollars. (Goldstein, Weigel and Eilperin, 9/20)

Anonymous said...

Here’s a list of some of the health-care groups that have come out against the latest measure:
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why isn't the 'american pickled liver association' on this list?

get on that alky.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Los Angeles Times: Republicans' New Repeal Bill Would Probably Leave Millions More Uninsured, New Analyses Suggest
“The vast majority of states lose money, and some lose truly jaw-dropping amounts,” said Jocelyn Guyer, managing director of Manatt Health, a consulting firm that has analyzed the Graham-Cassidy proposal. “That suggests coverage losses that are likely somewhere between significant and vast,” she said. (Levey, 9/20)

The Hill: 34 States Would See Funding Cut From New ObamaCare Repeal Bill: Study
Cassidy, Graham and the other co-sponsors of the bill said the legislation is about fairness. It aims to redistribute money from high-spending Medicaid expansion states — like California — to states that rejected the expansion — like Texas. But it isn't just blue states that stand to lose under the Graham-Cassidy proposal. (Weixel, 9/20)

Modern Healthcare: GOP Senators In Quandary Over Cassidy-Graham Bill's Projected Cuts To Their States
Big cuts in funding to states for coverage subsidies, Medicaid expansion, and traditional Medicaid under the latest Senate Republican bill to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act have created a political migraine for GOP senators, as Majority Leader Mitch McConnell pushes for a vote on the bill next Wednesday. Two nonpartisan analyses of the Graham-Cassidy bill show that many states represented by Republican senators would lose billions of dollars in federal healthcare funding through 2026, and far larger amounts after that. Total funding would be significantly lower than under current law. (Meyer, 9/20)

San Francisco Chronicle: California Would Lose $78 Billion — More Than Any Other State — Under GOP Health Bill
California would lose more federal funding than any other state under the latest GOP plan to repeal the Affordable Care Act, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the health policy consulting firm Avalere Health. By 2026, California would lose $78 billion in federal money for the Medi-Cal insurance program for the poor and in federal subsidies for low-income residents who buy health insurance through Covered California, the state exchange created under the ACA. (Ho, 9/20)

The Oregonian: Oregon Hardest-Hit State In US Under GOP'S New Health Care Bill
Oregon would be the hardest hit state – losing at least $13 billion in funding -- if the latest Republican health care bill becomes law, according to two analyses of the bill issued this week. Avalere Health, a health care consulting firm, on Wednesday pegged Oregon’s losses at $13 billion over 10 years and $111 billion over 20 years. (Manning, 9/20)

Georgia Health News: Study: Georgia Would See Big Gains Under GOP Bill, But Not Long Term
Georgia and several other Southern states initially would gain in federal health care funding under a Republican bill speeding through the U.S. Senate, a new analysis finds. But that effect would begin to wear off after a decade, and ultimately could lead to losses for all states as compared with current funding streams, according to the study by consulting firm Avalere Health, released Wednesday. (Miller, 9/20)

http://khn.org/morning-briefing/thursday-september-21-2017/#breakout-770079

Anonymous said...

$60,000 a year in premiums
Alky

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The American Medical Association (AMA) blasted the Senate GOP's newly released "skinny" ObamaCare repeal bill Thursday evening as a "toxic prescription that would make matters worse."

The bill, released hours before it will be voted on, would repeal ObamaCare's individual insurance mandate and medical device tax, repeal the employer mandate for eight years as well as defund Planned Parenthood and increase contribution limits to health savings accounts for three years.

"Eliminating the individual mandate will lead to adverse selection, triggering higher premiums and further destabilizing the individual market," AMA President David O. Barbe said in a statement.


"The stated goal was to advance policies to lower premiums, but the ‘skinny’ bill would do the exact opposite, harming patients across the country."

Barbe urged senators to oppose the bill and pivot to a bipartisan effort "working through appropriate committees of jurisdiction and regular order to fix problems and gaps in current law to enable Americans to obtain quality, affordable health insurance.”

Leaders want to pass a "skinny" bill that contains provisions that they think can get the 50 votes needed to pass a healthcare bill out of the Senate.

Senate Republicans have struggled to coalesce around a comprehensive repeal and replace effort, and the "skinny" plan is a last-ditch effort to move a measure.

GOP leaders want to go to a conference with the House on the measure, hoping that it will result in a more comprehensive plan.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/344262-american-medical-association-calls-skinny-obamacare-repeal-bill-a-toxic

Anonymous said...




you can copy and paste til the cows come home but that doesn't make one word of what you're stealing true, alky.

right now 40% of 0linsky-care funding goes to 20% of the population. CA, NY, MA & VA. hardly an equitable distribution of federal funds. couple that with the fact that those poor souls who would "lose" coverage, would be ditching it by choice, and you can see just how dishonest your side of the argument has to be in order to fight the repeal.

you assholes wouldn't know the truth if it was printed on a 2x4 and you were smashed over the head with it.

shit, if i had a dollar for every time cali has completely cleaned your clock on this issue i'd be wiping my ass with $100 bills each day.





Loretta said...

"http://khn.org/morning-briefing/thursday-september-21-2017/#breakout-770079"

Will you be spamming the blog with this FIVE more times, like you and the pedo always do?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

When I confront you with the facts, your only responses are personal insults.

The reason is simple. You don't have the ability to respond in intelligent and reasonable arguments.

And the worst part of this, is that our esteemed host encourages people like you.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Where is the liver disease group? rrb
American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network

caliphate4vr said...

finds that red states would disproportionately benefit

Elections have consequences we won, you're the loser

Alky 2009

I just hope the R's have the balls to use the weaponized federal Gubment that Obumble created

Embrace the suck

LMAO

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

EQUAL VOICE NEWS
https://www.equalvoiceforfamilies.org/repeal-and-replace-the-true-cost-of-repealing-obamacare/?gclid=CjwKCAjw6ZLOBRALEiwAxzyCW_9tMy3yHk6IfxlyXEaKUMUW2HUXulD9kjHz6PTsZn1jsDp6LYcGdxoCUo4QAvD_BwE

NECTAR, Ala. — Hank Adcock’s family has farmed the rolling hills of this small town in Northern Alabama for more than a century. Adcock took over the farm from his father, who inherited it from his father. At 62, Adcock was planning to pass the 300 acres – where his family raises everything from peaches and plums to corn and tomatoes, along with 200 cows – to his two sons.

Then a brutal farming accident threatened to rip the farm from his family. As Adcock worked in the fields below his house on a summer day in 2015, he reached to clear a jam in the hay baler and his hand caught in its blades. Within minutes, the machine took two of his fingers and much of his palm.

In shock, bleeding, and alone, Adcock somehow worked the stick shift on his old 4×4 Sierra pickup with his mangled right hand and drove across his fields for help. Eventually, the bills for that help – the doctors, hospital care and medivac helicopter ride – exceeded $130,000. This would be enough to consume his family’s finances, and with them his farm.

MakingItLogoHealthCareAlabama
In the end, Hank Adcock held onto his farm, with the help of an unexpected savior: the Affordable Care Act (ACA), often known as Obamacare. Six months before the accident, Adcock had purchased health insurance for the first time in his life – something the ACA made possible.

The coverage saved Adcock’s farm, he believes, because without it, he would have been forced to sell most of his acreage to pay his medical bills, leaving his two sons without enough land to make a living.

“It would just [have] been all over with,” Adcock recalled, as he sat on a bucket of hydraulic oil on the lip of his cavernous garage packed with tractors, engines suspended by chains, oil drums, parts, and mountains of tools. ACA “was the best thing that ever happened to us.”

The Adcock family’s story represents a stark reality that Republicans face as they work to replace the Affordable Care Act this spring. Calls to repeal and replace the act may make for good political theater, but theater does not necessarily reflect reality. Adcock lives in a county where 90 percent of voters supported Donald Trump, according to CNN, yet large numbers of his neighbors are signing up for Obamacare, he says.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...



These rural farmers and families, who, regardless of their politics, rely on ACA coverage, have not been onstage much during the political theater of the effort to repeal Obamacare and pass the American Health Care Act.

Their invisibility is symptomatic of a health care debate that seems driven by ideology and partisanship on both sides, not the voices and needs of the families with the greatest stake in the outcome.

In Nectar, and other rural towns in America, health care can be about keeping your family above the poverty line, and keeping your farm.

Hank Adcock knows the poverty line because he has lived near it. Until two years ago, he had never purchased health insurance because the monthly premiums ranged between $1,000 to $2,000, enough to eat half or nearly all of the $24,000 to $25,000 a year he often made farming 10 to 12 hours a day. With those premiums, the family would have had little left.

“What am I going to eat?” Adcock said. “What am I going to buy groceries with?”

With the Affordable Care Act, the premium for Adcock and his wife is $110 a month.

Under the plan proposed by House Republican leaders during the week of March 6, their premium would rise to roughly $1,150 a month, according to Doug Hoffman, an ACA navigator based in Birmingham.

DayofEquityHealthCare-insert470
What are families saying about affordable health insurance and comprehensive policy change? Learn more about the #DayofEquity initiative.

Within 10 years, 24 more million people would be uninsured under the GOP plan than under current law, according to an analysis released on March 13 by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. The plan also would cut the federal budget deficit by more than $300 billion over the same period, the office added.


This is what you would have for millions of hard working Americans. Cue the alky spam alky alky etc. Because that's all you have.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...
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caliphate4vr said...

These rural farmers and families, who, regardless of their politics, rely on ACA coverage, have not been onstage much during the political theater of the effort to repeal Obamacare and pass the American Health Care Act.

LMAO you don't know shit about this topic. They have been the worst hit by Bumblecare rural areas now have 1 fucking carrier, no competition.

Exactly as I predicted

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Cali said that this is a good idea. Millions would lose their health insurance, just to give the Republican Party a victory over the African American President.


An internal analysis by the Trump administration concludes that 31 states would lose federal money for health coverage under Senate Republicans’ latest effort to abolish much of the Affordable Care Act, with the politically critical state of Alaska facing a 38 percent cut in 2026.

The report, produced by the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, focuses on the final year of a block grant that states would receive under the Cassidy-Graham legislation. It shows that government funding for such health insurance would be 9 percent lower overall in 2026 under the plan than under current law.

The predicted loss is less than that forecast by three independent analyses of the bill’s impact in recent days, but the internal numbers show a similar checkerboard of states that would be big winners and equally big losers. The states that expanded their Medicaid programs under the ACA would be hit with the greatest reversals of federal aid.

According to the CMS data, first reported Thursday night by Axios, the greatest winners in 2026 would be Mississippi and Kansas, where federal health-care funding would more than triple and double, respectively. On the other hand, Connecticut’s aid would be cut by just over half.


The method used by federal officials to predict the bill’s effects on spending to states differs from that of another major analysis released earlier on Thursday by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The latter concluded that 35 states would lose $160 billion under the bill. The Kaiser study, like two earlier this week, looked at the cumulative effect from 2020 to 2026, while the administration’s looked only at the first and last years in that time frame.

The facts are not going away.
It's a disaster. This is from inside the White House!!!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/medicaid-expansion-states-to-lose-180-billion-under-cassidy-graham-plan-new-report-says/2017/09/21/45c80026-9ecb-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_healthcare-430am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.69cc425d4d0b

commie said...

LMAO you don't know shit about this topic.

Get to work and sell something that people don't need.... Your predictions have zero creds....just like you...

Loretta said...

Nothing but spam from the drunkard.

Yawn.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


LMAO you don't know shit about this topic. They have been the worst hit by Bumblecare rural areas now have 1 fucking carrier, no competition.

Exactly as I predicted

Because of your state refused to work with the ACA. It's people like you that are getting worse coverage because of the Republicans. That's the Coldheartedtruth, deal with it. You are being foolish.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
When I confront you with the facts, your only responses are personal insults.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


facts?

you've provided liberal talking points with no basis in fact. that's my point. you guys have been reduced to lying so egregiously about the repeal effort and what's actually in the proposed legislation, you can't even keep your bullshit straight anymore.

the ultimate irony of this whole situation is that it could've all been avoided. had you allowed the GOP to participate in the original process and had folded some of their proposals into 0linsky-care we wouldn't be here right now. but no, you assholes had to insist upon a "winner take all, pass it on christmas eve using every procedural trick in the book" approach.

so here we are. what's weird is you seem to be panicked this time. i wouldn't be. mcpappy is SURE to fuck this up. and he'll probably bring at least 2, maybe 3 rino's with him.

relax, alky. 0linsky-care is like herpes and every other gubmint free shit program -

it's forever.



Anonymous said...

Because of your state refused to work with the ACA. It's people like you that are getting worse coverage because of the Republicans. That's the Coldheartedtruth, deal with it. You are being foolish.
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you asshole. cali is exactly right. i work with rural farmers every single day, and they've been royally fucked by 0linsky-care. one of my best customers is in dire need of a hip AND a knee replacement. and he can't afford it because his current insurance is crushing him.

but hey, the co-pay on his pap smears is reasonable, so what the fuck has he got to complain about, right?

idiot.

do something that you're good at like taking the wife down to the VFW hall for bingo.

you've copied and pasted enough for one day.

Anonymous said...

According to the CMS data, first reported Thursday night by Axios, the greatest winners in 2026 would be Mississippi and Kansas, where federal health-care funding would more than triple and double, respectively. On the other hand, Connecticut’s aid would be cut by just over half.
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excellent.

CT is so fucking broke due to democrat mismanagement they can't afford to pay attention. big business is fleeing, and malloy has so screwed the pooch he's not even running for reelection.

it looks like those states showing fiscal prudence and restraint will be rewarded, while in drunken sailor spending mode are having their gravy train derailed.

like i said, excellent.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The facts are, that since FDR and "The New Deal" and Social Security, the Republicans, for the most part, have been opposed to entitlement programs. They have lost every single time. They are going to fail again. George W Bush tried to make Social Security a private sector program. It failed specifically, and you are going to be defeated again, because a majority of the People don't want to repeal and replace Obamacare. The people have spoken. That's what you hate.

Anonymous said...



listen to yourself. you sitting there bragging about making multiple generations of americans completely addicted to government programs like it's a good thing.


"because a majority of the People don't want to repeal and replace Obamacare. The people have spoken. That's what you hate."

WRONG.

no one "spoke" regarding 0linsky-care. it was passed on christmas eve using parlor tricks, it was built upon a fucking mount everest-sized mountain of lies including 'LIE OF THE YEAR', we had to pass it to find out what's in it, and best of all... according to mcgruber, it relied upon, and i quote, "the stupidity of the american people."

you are such a fucking worthless piece of fucking shit.

the fact that a perfectly good liver was wasted on a liar like you is a travesty.

Anonymous said...

Referring to Mr. "$60,000" a year.

"You ((idiot HB)) don't know shit on this subject."
Cali

It is not just this subject.

Anonymous said...

We that Ranch/Farm want one thing in this Healthcare issue.

Rid us of the individual mandate.

Let me buy the coverage I want and out of pocket the rest with cash, like I used to.

Anonymous said...

Cali has been 100 % correct on all issues involving obumblecare.

caliphate4vr said...


Because of your state refused to work with the ACA. It's people like you that are getting worse coverage because of the Republicans. That's the Coldheartedtruth, deal with it. You are being foolish.


WTF are you talking about? Just because some parasites didn't get medicaid doesn't affect me.

The cocktail of drugs they have you on makes you completely addled mentally

commie said...

Stump broke KD posted
Cali has been 100 % correct on all issues involving obumblecare.

You really need help, asshole....his predictions have been as accurate as CH is on law....LOLOLOLOL

caliphate4vr said...

it looks like those states showing fiscal prudence and restraint will be rewarded, while in drunken sailor spending mode are having their gravy train derailed.

like i said, excellent.


There needs to be a provision that when these blue states shit the bed with their block grants, the red states don't have to bail them out

caliphate4vr said...

Federal agency's updated map shows 49 counties will have no Obamacare health plan insurers in 2018.
1,300 counties will have only one Obamacare insurer in 2018.


Rural areas

It's hard being me

Anonymous said...

Cali thank you for demolishing HB and his ass pimples jane and oDopie.

Anonymous said...

There needs to be a provision that when these blue states shit the bed with their block grants, the red states don't have to bail them out
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absolutely. i called for that on here the other day. and when you stop to really think about it, THAT is what has geniuses like the alky so shook up. they know goddamn well that if you block grant a pile of $$$ to a blue state, they're going to use it for everything BUT what it's intended for.

if uncle sugar keeps doling out the goodies on 0linsky-care, states that are ass deep in red ink like CT & IL can continue to do really stupid shit.

case in point - CA's high speed rail project is failing just as spectacularly as we all said it would. if moonbeam gets a big fat block grant check from uncle sugar, will he use it as intended or will he use it to bail out his choo choo boondoggle.

i think we all know the answer to THAT question.




Anonymous said...

Keep being you, smart, informative and correct.

That link shows all that competition and decline prices, I hear a $2,500 per year reduction in personal premiums is coming, right?

Anonymous said...

Moonbeam signed into law the "sanctuary state" law.

Making it a magnet for all illegal shit stains to flock.

In that law is funding for the housing, food, clothing, cash and health care.

Anonymous said...

WTF are you talking about? Just because some parasites didn't get medicaid doesn't affect me.

The cocktail of drugs they have you on makes you completely addled mentally
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the alky has always been mentally fucked up, at least since the yahoo mssg. board days.

his current condition is simply amplifying his pre-existing mental illness.

Anonymous said...

Well I am going to repair and replace some cattle fence. I cut the Osage orange ((more commonly known as hedge)) post yesterday, aguring new post hole then post tapped in, then wire. Cows/calves are sure to be watching- supervising.

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