So hypothetically, we have decided to help out a certain segment of the population as it pertains to transportation costs. On opposite ends of the spectrum, there are two plans being floated.
The Amick/Boswell plan: In this plan the federal government has determined that all eligible participants should be driving a Honda Accord Hybrid. The Government has cut a deal to lease these vehicle in bulk. The cost will be $400/month . The first $300 worth will be covered by the Government. The remaining $100 will be covered by the person receiving the vehicle. If the person does not want to drive this car, or does not want to spend the $100, then they get nothing.
The Coldheart/Rat plan: In this plan, the federal government has decided to simply provide all eligible participants with a $300 transportation voucher that they can choose to use however they wish. If they choose to take advantage of the Accord lease, they can. If they want to lease a different vehicle. They can. If they want to use it to purchase a monthly bus pass. They can. If they want to use it for taxi-fare. They can. If they want to use it to purchase gas for an existing vehicle that they own. So be it. As long as it is spent on transportation, they are free to make their own choices.
Which plan seems like the better plan?
Update: The CBO just graded each plan and found that 456 million Americans would lose their ability to get from point A to point B if the Coldheart/Rat plan was implemented. So I guess that settles it.
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You have lost your mind. Look in the mirror. You won't be able to comprehend what you are doing. Get help my friend. It works well if you are honest with yourself.
McCain said no!!! You need help.
McCain torpedoes the repeal of Obamacare again.
The nightmare of socialized medicine will be his legacy.
Republican Sen. John McCain announces opposition to health care bill, dashing hopes for GOP leaders
WASHINGTON — Sen. John McCain says he won't vote for the Republican bill repealing the Obama health care law. His statement likely deals a fatal blow to the last-gasp GOP measure in a Senate showdown expected next week.
The Arizona Republican says he can't back the partisan GOP measure because "we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats."
He also says he can't back it without knowing the proposal's impact on insurance coverage and premiums. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has said its estimates on that won't be ready next week.
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul has said he'll oppose the bill and Maine Sen. Susan Collins says she's leaning against it. Republicans control the Senate 52-48. All Democrats oppose the bill so three GOP "no" votes would doom it.
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He is facing death and does not want a vote for this monstrosity to be part of his legacy.
McCain, who killed the previous repeal effort with his dramatic “no” vote in July, released a statement saying he would not support the latest proposal, by Senators Bill Cassidy of Louisiana and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who is Mr. McCain’s closest friend in the Senate.
“I cannot in good conscience vote for the Graham-Cassidy proposal,” Mr. McCain said. “I believe we could do better working together, Republicans and Democrats, and have not yet really tried. Nor could I support it without knowing how much it will cost, how it will effect insurance premiums, and how many people will be helped or hurt by it.”
In other words, McCain supports Obamacare and has all along.
I think we knew that.
McConnell should take away his chairmanships.
Yeah, take away chairmanships from a dying man just because he is too principled to go along with a thrown together excuse for a healthcare bill.
Anonymous A great American patriot and pastor named James said...
Yeah, take away chairmanships from a dying man just because he is too principled to go along with a thrown together excuse for a healthcare bill.
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take away his chairmanships?
i'd put his desk out in the fucking parking lot.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
McCain said no!!!
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hey alky, why don't you go out and get yourself a 5 gallon bucket of 0linsky man gravy to celebrate!
LOL..
"The Amick/Boswell plan:....."
Excellent description of the two Marxists.
"A great American patriot and pastor named James"
No such person exists.
A pedophile named James exists.
on the topic of the post, i can see why the left would oppose our plan. it places the responsibility on the individual, and secures for them the highest level of freedom and liberty to make their own CHOICE.
the gubmint plan is for losers too lazy and/or stupid to perform a task more complicated than staggering to the mailbox once a month to pick up their check from uncle sugar. these are people who probably needed a union to do their thinking for them when they were working, and now require the government to do their thinking for them as they sit around and wait to die. every time the government creates a new welfare program they cheer. and it's never enough. next they'll want "single payer transportation insurance" where the government pays the entire tab, and it only costs $32 TRILLION. but that's ok. the rich will pay for it by donating their "fair share."
SO, time to get back to talking abut Trump-Russia again!
What to Make of This Week’s Trump-Russia Revelations
Ryan Lizza: “We know that the Russians launched a cyber campaign to help Trump win. We know that the Trump campaign was willing to entertain assistance from the Russian government because Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump, Jr., eagerly met with a Russian offering such assistance. This latest news suggests—though the reporting is still vague—what many people have long wondered: that Manafort may have been a crucial link between the Trump campaign and Russians seeking to defeat Hillary Clinton.
“If Mueller or congressional investigators unearth proof that Manafort colluded with the Russians, it will fortify the narrative that the Trump campaign worked with a foreign nation to alter the outcome of an American Presidential election—an unprecedented event in the country’s history. Trump could dismiss the evidence, deny knowledge of the collusion, and dismiss the Mueller investigation as a ‘witch hunt.’ But this week’s disclosures moved the theorizing about Trump and Russia one step closer to becoming a politically devastating blow to Trump’s Presidency.”
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Oh, Commensa and Rat and Low-retta and KD and Cowardly will be just DEVASTATED.
Oh, Commensa and Rat and Low-retta and KD and Cowardly will be just DEVASTATED.
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i'm already planning on a manafort conviction, pastor pederast.
i have been since mueller brought in the NY AG.
this one's almost as predictable as mcpappy sabotaging the GOP health care bill.
You won't be able to comprehend what you are doing. Get help my friend.
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says the asshole who blames all of his posting errors on his karaoke machine mr. microphone.
how's things over on the hospice blog, alky? gotta bunch of cut n' paste posts tee'd up i see.
heh.
"i'd put his desk out in the fucking parking lot."
Ft Leavenworth is where the songbird belongs.
"this one's almost as predictable as mcpappy sabotaging the GOP health care bill."
Low hanging fruit.
32 Million Would Lose Health Coverage Under GOP Plan
A new Brookings Institution study estimates the Cassidy-Graham health care plan would cause 32 million people to lose health coverage in 2027, as compared to current law.
Over the next two years, 15 million would lose coverage.
See brainless asshole "pastor" james is still cut-n-pasting his daily marching orders from political_lire and bringing over as spam
Unbelievable piece of shit he is
Can't follow any board etiquette so JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY will point it out.
ROFLMFAO !!!
Or put another way, 15M would no longer be forced to buy coverage they don't want or need.
A new Brookings Institution study estimates the Cassidy-Graham health care plan would cause 32 million people to lose health coverage in 2027
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a lie.
no one "loses" coverage. many would CHOOSE not to buy it, but no one loses it.
and i wouldn't trust a liberal "think tank" to make a prediction one week out let alone ten years out.
John McCain sucks dicks. He's no war hero to me.
"Unbelievable piece of shit he is"
Bingo.
Health insurers in New Mexico are increasing premiums at the highest rate seen in the four-year history of the state's exchanges, the Albuquerque Journal reported.
Insurers will increase premiums next year from a range of 36 to 41 percent for midlevel insurance plans. For all plans, premiums are expected to rise a range of 17 to 49 percent.
Sixty percent of consumers in New Mexico will qualify for subsidies to lower the cost of the increasing premium.
"I feel sorry for the other 40 percent though," said John Franchini, the state's insurance superintendent. "Forty percent have to pay the full brunt of the rate increases."
http://freebeacon.com/issues/health-insurers-new-mexico-implement-record-high-premium-increases/
turn off the government cash spigot to the insurance companies. let the insurance companies financially crush the individual insured.
that's the way 0linsky-care was passed. let it work as passed with no unconstitutional free $$$.
rathole impresses us with.....
a lie.
You say tomahto and I say tomayto call it what ever you like....millions of people will not have coverage ......see how simple even you can understand....LOLOLOL
call it what ever you like....millions of people will not have coverage .
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yeah, by CHOICE, you dumb fuck.
You have to explain it to him.
Slowly.
I want to congratulate the following people for thier win.
HB
James
Opie
Wp
Indy
You all were/are Right, once a welfare program is installed there is Zero chance to reform/replace/cancel.
So enjoy your victory.
John McCain sucks dicks. He's no war hero to me.
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i cannot, in good conscience, disagree with that sentiment.
You all were/are Right, once a welfare program is installed there is Zero chance to reform/replace/cancel.
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and we never have to pay for them. i mean, even bernie's single payer plan calls for a herd of flying unicorns that shoot rainbows with billion dollar bills out of their asses to pay for it.
what's not to like about a program like that? we can load up on free shit and stick the alky's new grand daughter with the bill. if the alky doesn't give a shit about her why should we?
stump broke loser kd post...33
You all were/are Right, once a welfare program is installed there is Zero chance to reform/replace/cancel.
You need to stop drinking...when you are down to 2 working brain cells , and 1 is wounded....your end is near....I bet you didn't know stupidity is a pre existing condition.....
"JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY j said...
John McCain sucks dicks. He's no war hero to me.
September 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM "
Unbelievable "pastor" james boswell would post something like this.
but he did. he should never preach to another human being again. nor judge one.
The left won a great victory, keeping the welfare program known as obumblecare.
Take that victory lap. Your earned it.
ETTE, YOU BROKE OPIE!
CAN YOU FIX HIM?
Little puppet Jimmy Kimball is a mouth piece of obama/schumer.
Exposed.
"A Hoax"
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 13h13 hours ago
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The Russia hoax continues, now it's ads on Facebook. What about the totally biased and dishonest Media coverage in favor of Crooked Hillary?
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 13h13 hours ago
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Rand Paul, or whoever votes against Hcare Bill, will forever (future political campaigns) be known as "the Republican who saved ObamaCare."
The "Hoax" is the reality show hoax of a President. The hypocrisy of the hose ant the rest of the regulars, spent eight years, saying that a "community organizer" wasn't qualified but have NO problem with a guy who has NO absolutely NO political exxperience.
HB
James
Opie
Wp
Indy
Should all have posting rights to take on the increasingly demented esteemed host. But he's a coward, and won't let the racist republican bastard post a personal insult on the top and block anything else.
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Thank you @SenJohnMcCain for being a hero again and again and now AGAIN
2.5 million followers.
McCain campaigned on and won on repealing obamacare. He's clearly a liar.
He probably did this again just to spite Trump.
I also think McCain, Collins and Murkowski should get off their disagreeable asses and put forth a solution of their own.
Americans Vastly Prefer Obamacare to Latest GOP Plan
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that Americans prefer Obamacare to the latest GOP plan by a 56% to 33% margin.
Also interesting: Roughly twice as many people “strongly prefer” the current law to Republicans’ plan, 42% to 22%.
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They should fervently thank John McCain for keeping them from such a fiasco.
MY BALLS SAID: I also think McCain, Collins and Murkowski should get off their disagreeable asses and put forth a solution of their own._
JAMES SAID: McCain HAS put forth a solution, and it is to have Republicans and Democrats work together for a solution for the greater good of all Americans.
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MEANWHILE
“As more than 40 subdued Republican senators lunched on Chick-fil-A at a closed-door session last week, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-CO) painted a dire picture for his colleagues. Campaign fund-raising was drying up, he said, because of the widespread disappointment among donors over the inability of the Republican Senate to repeal the Affordable Care Act or do much of anything else,” the New York Times reports.
“Mr. Gardner is in charge of his party’s midterm re-election push, and he warned that donors of all stripes were refusing to contribute another penny until the struggling majority produced some concrete results.”
Said Gardner: “Donors are furious. We haven’t kept our promise.”
Advisors Warned Trump Not to Personally Attack Kim
“Senior aides to President Trump repeatedly warned him not to deliver a personal attack on North Korea’s leader at the United Nations this week, saying insulting the young despot in such a prominent venue could irreparably escalate tensions and shut off any chance for negotiations to defuse the nuclear crisis,” the Los Angeles Times reports.
“Trump’s derisive description of Kim Jong Un as ‘Rocket Man on a suicide mission’ and his threat to ‘totally destroy’ North Korea were not in a speech draft that several senior officials reviewed and vetted Monday.”
“Some of Trump’s top aides, including national security advisor H.R. McMaster, had argued for months against making the attacks on North Korea’s leader personal, warning it could backfire. But Trump felt compelled to take a harder line.”
That's not a solution. That is political spin.
I want an actual proposal.
That may be the ONLY viable solution at this stage of the game.
NOTE TO ASSHOLE PASTOR JAMES BOSWILL
If you had an ounce of integrity you would stop posting and spamming.
We both know you don't, and you have yet again proved it.
Your actions are who you are and you are miles below pond scum. No wonder you defend the undefendable. Go fuck yourself, as if you already haven't.
ROFLMFAO !!!
McCain wants to return to the way for most of our history. He would work on a bipartisan bill, but he's not going to be the author of such a complex bill.
*CORRECTION s/b asshole pastor james boswell. a fucking piece of dog shit has more integrity.
Cue more mindless cut'n'paste or wrapping himself in bible scripture as a shield for his shit. Your actions define you and you are a POS.
Without a doubt.
Then McCain should have campaigned on that. He didn't.
Well, McCain seems to be saying that what he campaigned on was NOT a hastily thrown together unvetted, most of it hammered out in secret jumble like this bill.
McCain bill, can we read it?
What dems are on board as co- authors?
By name, who are they?
A question to the experts on healthcare, jane and HB.
First shat are the flaws with obamacare as you see them?
What are the fixes?
Omg, now hb is re-inventing history.
Obamacare was bi- partisan!!!!
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posts the following vile lie
"JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY j said...
John McCain sucks dicks. He's no war hero to me.
September 22, 2017 at 2:35 PM "
writes pious sermon
Adds a few pithy lies, false assertions and characterizations to blog
k'putz, you are a liar again. I never said that the ACA was bi partisan. The Democrats were forced to use the rules of the congress to pass it, because every single amendment offered by the Republicans were meant to destroy the Affordable Care Act
"Should all have posting rights to take on the increasingly demented esteemed host. But he's a coward, and won't let the racist republican bastard post a personal insult on the top and block anything else."
Such a drama queen.
Should all have posting rights to take on the increasingly demented esteemed host.
You have an account, start your own blog.
Oh that's right, without CH's reputation nobody would ever see your posts.
Parasites are in no position to complain.
He's a lazy bum.
HB, your account here has been hacked, someone used your account to post some dribble about the ACA being bi and all mccain wants is for the repeal and replace to be bi. And that is our history ALL major laws have been bi.
So it was not you. Ok.
Republicans hate the American people, especially those who have a limited income. Ironically, most of them will be left begging from family and friends, voted for Donald Trump.
We know what Graham-Cassidy, the Republican health care bill, would do. It would slash Medicaid and other federal health care spending, ending health coverage for tens of millions of Americans. To Democrats, this is intolerable. To many Republicans, this is what it means to have a “small government” society; this is the system working. But it’s at odds with the party’s promises of the past seven years: repeated pledges to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something cheaper, better, fairer, and more comprehensive. Republicans can’t square that circle, so instead, they’ve opted to lie and hope, amid the scramble, they get away with it.
One of the most egregious lies comes from Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy, namesake (along with South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham) of the bill in question. Cassidy, who is also a physician, was a rare Republican voice to express concerns about the Better Care Reconciliation Act, the Senate counterpart to the House’s American Health Care Act. In a May appearance on Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show, Cassidy supported the comedian’s belief that “no family should be denied medical care, emergency or otherwise, because they can’t afford it.” Deeming this the “Jimmy Kimmel test,” Cassidy said he would reject legislation that couldn’t meet it. The BCRA couldn’t (though Cassidy would later vote for the notorious “skinny repeal”), and as Kimmel pointed out in a recent monologue, Graham-Cassidy can’t either. It works by ending Obamacare regulations on insurers and replacing federal subsidies with block grants, giving states the “flexibility” to build their own health insurance systems. But for most states (especially those that accepted Medicaid expansion) those grants are smaller than what the states had been getting under the Affordable Care Act. The effect, according to one projection from the Commonwealth Fund, is massive coverage losses, with an estimated 32 million people losing health insurance over a 10-year period.
Republicans have to pass the bill because they have to pass the bills by their contributions by the pharmaceutical industry.
Cassidy’s proposal doesn’t meet his own criteria. But rather than own this, Cassidy lied.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/09/graham_cassidy_like_all_obamacare_repeal_is_built_on_lies.html
Slate, lol.
Source doesn't matter. It's the Coldheartedtruth.
Every Medicaid administration leader has come out against the bill. Every single one of them.
Source doesn't matter anymore?
You wouldn't know the coldheartedtruth if it bit you in your wrinkly OLD ass.
LOL.
One certainty is that the Republicans have no ownership of obamacare or its skyrocketing premium costs.
Blogger Loretta said...
Slate, lol.
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i love slate. i swear it's a parody site written by middle school children.
my favorite is some clown named 'ba ba boo-ey' or something like that.
Jamelle Bouie
that's him! or her. it?
whatever.
the biggest assclown on the site.
thanks alky! i love to start the weekend with a good howler.
AZ obamacare premiums went up 116% last year.
McCain just screwed his constituency.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
McCain wants to return to the way for most of our history.
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mcstain needs to;
resign
go home
die.
not necessarily in that order.
he's been trading on that war hero shit for fifty fucking years. that ship has fucking sailed.
AZ obamacare premiums went up 116% last year.
McCain just screwed his constituency.
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well, there's a huge cost associated with being a selfish prick. and while mcpappy is basking in the glow of chuck schumer's adoration, his constituents are choking on massive 0linsky-care premiums.
The Democrats were forced to use the rules of the congress to pass it, because every single amendment offered by the Republicans were meant to destroy the Affordable Care Act
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that's one of the bigger lies you've ever told on here alky.
and for you that's going some.
U bum @StephenCurry30 already said he ain't going! So therefore ain't no invite. Going to White House was a great honor until you showed up!
LeBron James says the President of The United States is a racist bastard. No wonder rrb loves Trump
After I get into shape at the gym, I have the data available. No, asshole, I'm not clear to go to the beach. Your ass picture is accurate, fat ass liar
Curry disrespected the President of the United States. It's no wonder he was disinvited.
Curry was wrong. And James had no right jumping in when it was none of his business.
Commonsense said...
Curry disrespected the President of the United States.
Deservedly so......He is an abject embarrassment as the world burns, he fiddles his base like you...Idiots.....And james has every right to speak his mind, just like a moron like you.,...
Isn't it ironic that trumpie rebuked the NFL players in more certain terms than he did the white bigots in charlottesville....And you idiots took the bait like the little thinkers you are....SAD!!!!!!
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