What struck me about both subjects was the noticeable lack of any actual legal reasoning behind the lawsuits. Becerra spent the entire interview telling us why these were poor decisions by the President, rather than why what Trump was doing was lawless or unconstitutional. Moving past the fact that a good portion of what he stated was factually untrue, both of his arguments were emotional tugs at the heart strings aimed to convince everyone that Trump is simply mean.
If one didn't know any better, it would appear that Becerra truly believes that a federal court is a place you go to argue the political merits of policy disputes, rather than somewhere you go to arbitrate the law.
The problem with both of these lawsuits is that previous courts have already rendered rulings that go so far as to the say that the policies that Trump is ending, were both illegal or unconstitutional. Courts already ruled that the President does not have constitutional authority to either spend money that is not allocated from Congress, or create legal status for immigrants that otherwise are not covered by any laws.
Both of these issues are constitutionally under the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, which is exactly why Trump is challenging Congress to come up with legislation to address both situations. What Obama did was constitutionally wrong, and what Trump is doing is constitutionally correct. As far as the separation of powers is concerned, the constitutional relevance is all that matters (or all that should matter) in a lawsuit such as these.
If Becerra plans on going to court with the same argument that he is bringing to the Sunday Morning talk shows, he shouldn't get very far. That being said, I cannot discount the concept that some rogue judge will decide that Trump is wrong on policy merit and try to come up with a legal justification ordering as such. But the idea that either of these cases will ultimately prevail (up through the USSC) is a legal long shot.
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If one didn't know any better, it would appear that Becerra truly believes that a federal court is a place you go to argue the political merits of policy disputes, rather than somewhere you go to arbitrate the law.
Tell you what. The 9th circuit has given him plenty of reason to believe that.
both CA and NY have grandstanding asshats with higher political aspirations for AG's.
hence the lawsuits.
For all Ch's self-claimed brilliance, he does not seem to know the difference between an interview and a legal argument before a judge.
"Becerra spent the entire interview telling us why these were poor decisions by the President, rather than why what Trump was doing was lawless or unconstitutional."
He needs to avoid the truth, to fool people like James.
Ch, I just noticed the obscenities posted by Cowardly King Obama a.k.a. James's f'ing Daddy in the next thread down.
I have been playing by the rules. I have not been spamming.
If you allow his obscene posts to stand, you are not respecting your own rules, and are inviting him to post the kind of disgusting fellatio references he made earlier.
If you allow that here, why should I not return to spamming?
Myeshia Johnson confirms Rep. Federica Wilson was right about Trump’s call.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/myeshia-johnson-trump-phone-call_us_59edbc7ce4b00f08619fcb04
For all Ch's self-claimed brilliance, he does not seem to know the difference between an interview and a legal argument before a judge.
I would think that a attorney general (who's position is legal, not political) would make legal arguments when being asked about a lawsuit... but perhaps that's just me.
She was on Good Morning America
Spam by the drunkard
Maybe I could be wrong, but isn't the use of "Original Intent" a political argument?
So Roger...
She just lied about Trump not knowing her husband's name or knowing anything about him... when Kelly and others in the room suggested that everyone knew the soldier, had done research prior to the call, and that Trump called him by name from the outset?
I listened to the other call he made to a widow...I am curious as to why you believe that the two calls would be so diametrically different?
Everybody has to play politics to some degree, Ch. Even Lincoln did. Grow up.
It's been a major part of the nomination for the Supreme Court?
Original Intent is a legal theory, Roger...
Every thread.
A case is tried on the facts, not the emotions of the day.
Unfortunately, Kelly has become a loyalist. He lied about Wilson and yes he is standing behind it. Despite the video shows that she didn't say anything like he claimed.
Spot on commentary about our Liar in Chief
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-trump-did-to-kelly-shows-how-far-we-have-fallen/2017/10/22/f3a6832c-b5d5-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.9b9c3ea7b7a0
All these problems are self induced because our CIC is a childish idiot...
Yes it is.
When the crying widow said that Trump didn't even know her husband's name, he could have replied by saying, you know, I did stumble a bit over his name, and I regret that. Accept my heartfelt apology for that. Your husband was and is a great hero.
Instead, like Kelly, he just had to go on the attack.
I know, but more importantly it is a political argument also. Because it has been successful in blocking everything that is based upon events that have occurred since the Constitution was approved.
Remember the decision the court itself declared itself as the ultimate authority as to any law, both state and federal.
You lair, you insult with every one of your posts.
She just lied about Trump not knowing her husband's name or knowing anything about him..
Again, you do not know that as fact...keep shoveling it CH, you'll believe any thing your asshole in chief tweets....
Who to believe...the widow or our idiot of the north.....
MIAMI (AP) — The pregnant widow of a fallen U.S. soldier on Monday contradicted President Donald Trump's account of his phone call about her husband's death and said what he told her "made me cry even worse."
Myeshia Johnson told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an interview that Democratic Rep. Frederica Wilson was practically a member of their family and was among a group of people listening to Trump's call on a speaker phone as they drove to receive Sgt. La David Johnson's body.
"The president said that he knew what he signed up for but it hurts anyway," Johnson said. "And it made me cry because I was very angry at the tone of his voice and how he said it. He couldn't remember my husband's name. The only way he could remember my husband's name was he told me he had my husband's report in front of him and that's when he actually said La David."
"Whatever Ms. Wilson said was not fabricated," Johnson said in her first interview since her husband's death. "What she said was 100 percent correct."
Sgt. Johnson and three comrades died Oct. 4 in Africa when militants tied to the Islamic State attacked them.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fallen-soldiers-widow-nothing-trump-115826628.html
Wonder how our host made up his own facts again, and again, and again.....
James. ODopie or hb.
Are the actions illegal?
Later folks. Keep it civil. I'm so tired of the personal information and insults. alky blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah alk alky alky blah blah alky.
James...
So your "assumption" as it pertains to respecting fallen soldiers...
- is that a General who's own son died in battle would lie.
- but that a Congresswomen who has no affiliation with the military would be telling the truth.
Given that generals are not by nature political, whereas congress critters are by nature political...
Doesn't it appear even "slightly" reasonable to assume that your opinion that the General (and not the politician) is playing politics...
is based on partisanship and a strong anti-Trump sentiment... rather than on logic?
Rep. Tim Walz @RepTimWalz
Myeshia Johnson buried her husband this weekend. The president called her a liar this morning. THIS NEEDS TO END NOW.
2h ago
Rep. Tim Walz @RepTimWalz
If you find yourself defending President Trump after he is attacking the widow of a fallen warrior, you might rethink that.
2h ago
I am sure CH can link us up to where the grieving widow lied about trump,,,,,since trump is a demi god in his mind...the widow must be wrong....what a POS our host has become..
..“The president said, ‘He knew what he signed up for, but it hurts anyway,’” Ms. Johnson said during an interview with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos. “It made me cry because I was angry at the tone in his voice and how he said it.”
She said Mr. Trump’s memory seemed to falter during their exchange.
“He couldn’t remember my husband’s name,” Ms. Johnson said. “The only way he remembered my husband’s name is because he had my husband’s report in front of him and that’s when he actually said ‘La David.’ I heard him stumbling on trying to remember my husband’s name. And that’s what hurt me the most. If my husband is out here fighting for our country, and he risked his life for our country, why can’t you remember his name?”
- is that a General who's own son died in battle would lie.
He did and the video's prove it....sad how trump has corrupted an honorable man....unlike you CH...
C.H. Truth said...
James...
So your "assumption" as it pertains to respecting fallen soldiers...
- is that a uwho's own son died in battle would lie.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, CH, BUT WAS HE PLAYING POLITICS OR JUST MAKING A FOOLISH MISTAKE WHEN HE OFFICIALLY ACCUSED A U. S. REPRESENTATIVE OF SAYING SOMETHING THAT A VIDEO OF HER SPEECH PROVES SHE DID NOT SAY?
Given that generals are not by nature political, whereas congress critters are by nature political...
Doesn't it appear even "slightly" reasonable to assume that your opinion that the General (and not the politician) is playing politics...
is based on partisanship and a strong anti-Trump sentiment... rather than on logic?
REVERSE THE QUESTION AND ASK IT OF YOURSELF.
BONE SPURS TRUMP/......How the donnie bought his way out of serving.....what a douche'!!!!!
It really doesn't matter Opie...
It will be the same thing that happened with the Kahns. Real military people don't like fallen soldiers to be used for political purposes at all... but especially not political purposes that have nothing to do with the military or military action.
The Kahns exploited the fact that their son died in combat to make factually incorrect statements about the constitution and immigration. They basically were given a forum by Democrats to make fools of themselves, for political purposes.
Likewise, this is the same thing. People are using a dead soldier to attack the President and a four star General who's son also died in battle.
If you think this Wilson/Johnson thing plays to anyone other than the Trump haters... then you are simply naive.
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And for the record... I wish everyone (including the President) would shut up about it. Every time Wilson, Johnson, Trump, or Kelly brings this up from here on out...
Is a total act of disrespect for the men who died in Niger.
They should all put a fucking sock in it.
When President Trump stopped the 7 Billion direct payment to Ins. Companies it was legal.
Agreed
You served in the US Military?
Did Hillary?
Bill Clinton?
jv obama ?
With no ablit to think critically and the total absence of a normal compass you hide, dodge and prattle.
Real military people don't like fallen soldiers to be used for political purposes at all... but especially not political purpose
AND YOU STILL SUPPORT THE IDIOT IN CHIEF WHO STARTED THE WHOLE THING. When are you planning on coming out of your coma????
Still waiting for that link proving the widow a liaR!!!!
I wish everyone (including the President) would shut up about it
YOU ARE STILL POSTING ABOUT IT....How sad you cannot even listen to yourself....LOLOLOL
KD said...
With no ablit to think
BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! idiot
Back to the issue of this thread.
"james said...
Ch, I just noticed the obscenities posted by Cowardly King Obama a.k.a. James's f'ing Daddy in the next thread down.
I have been playing by the rules. I have not been spamming.
If you allow his obscene posts to stand, you are not respecting your own rules, and are inviting him to post the kind of disgusting fellatio references he made earlier.
If you allow that here, why should I not return to spamming?"
1) You already returned to spamming on that thread
2) I never made those fellatio references you are referring to under any moniker and I have told you that and your continued statement of that lie is unacceptable for a "pastor".
3) I will continue to post under jfd when I encounter your spam.
Grow up
AND YOU STILL SUPPORT THE IDIOT IN CHIEF WHO STARTED THE WHOLE THING.
The whole thing was started by a Congresswoman who decided to play politics with the fact that a widow got a call from the President.
and you have no trouble supporting her ongoing attacks on a Four Star General who's own son died in battle?
The Kahns exploited the fact that their son died i
How sad you conclude it that way.....No wonder you support the liar in chief with such jaded opinions like that....There is no hope for you..
oh, I guess your spam was not on the immediately previous thread but it was today on the thread before that. You are so anal I thought I'd correct myself.
The point is you were still spamming today and my response correctly reflected that with the actions I told you I would make...
And quit crying to CHT, try to be a man.
The whole thing was started by a Congresswoman
HORSESHIT YOU LIAR.....HAVING YOUR OWN ALTERNATE FACTS JUST PROVE YOU HAVE LOST IT......Wanna try again or just continue living in your own dream world idolizing trump????? Still waiting for your source of the widows lies.....dayum you are thick as a brick today.....The general lied also, so he is no better than you...
I dare you to watch The View today.
Asshole in chief tweet...
Trump tweeted that Wilson "fabricated" his statement and the fight escalated through the week. Trump in other tweets called her "wacky" and accused her of "SECRETLY" listening to the phone call.
Yep, that is CH's source, another lie.
"Anonymous james said...
When the crying widow said that Trump didn't even know her husband's name"
So we are to believe he made a "blind" call
Right
I never thought I would see this.
And for the record... I wish everyone (including the President) would shut up about it. Every time Wilson, Johnson, Trump, or Kelly brings this up from here on out...
Is a total act of disrespect for the men who died in Niger.
They should all put a fucking sock in it.
dare you to watch The View today.
Good show for a guy who got captured and therefore not worthy of respect......!!!!!! CLASS....a word not familiar to the weak mind of CH or Trump.....
Congratulations
McCain was brutal.
So Opie..
You admit that Trump's tweet was in response to Wilson's attack on him.
You admit that Trump's tweet was in response to Wilson's attack on him.
Oh the big liar in chief was attacked by a poor black women....attack is your term, not mine....he has no class or sympathy and if you consider that an attack, you must lead a very sheltered life. Her truth is something you or trump cannot accept....still looking for your proof she lied....try to stay on subject instead pulling another trump out of your ass....
CH posted....
They should all put a fucking sock in it.
Take you own advice, CH.....you are the one continuing. not me......
Back to the issue of this thread.
I'll repost what I said before for the weak minded trumpettes....
CLASS....a word not familiar to the weak mind of CH or Trump.....
maverick mcpappy was on 'the view' today?
LOL.
good God.
so the dithering old fool is pissed off because he lost the presidency to a two-bit, ACORN clown, so he insists upon taking it out on trump.
geezus
Rat the hole posted about something he did not watch.....
presidency to a two-bit, ACORN clown, so he insists upon taking it out on trump.
The boil on McCains ass has more class than either you or your liar in chief.....He did no such thing so rat hole lies about it....idiot..
"so the dithering old fool is pissed off because he lost the presidency to a two-bit, ACORN clown, so he insists upon taking it out on trump."
Exactly.
A sick, bitter old warmonger.
Opie...
It doesn't matter if "you" want to believe that attacking a President for making a condolence call to a Widow is perfectly acceptable.
That is still where the issue started. The Congresswoman attacking Trump.
By every basic principle of logic... a "response" by nature can never be "the start" of something.
Mark Twain quote
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and the government ONLY when it deserves it.
Except for the trump fellators.....
"Is a total act of disrespect for the men who died in Niger.
They should all put a fucking sock in it."
Exactly.
The left picks and chooses which dead soldiers to grieve over, so let them stew in their new Cindy Sheehan juices.
Liberals are, and always have been, pieces of shit.
It doesn't matter if "you" want to believe that attacking a President for making
Attacking is your word, not mind....she had trump by the ballz and shook them....He deserved it and in spite of you sucking on his manhood, It doesn't matter what you think that trump started with his comment on monday bringing kelly's son into the arena and claiming barrack never called families of KIA hero's.. Now I'll be kind and just tell you again, you are full of shit and still haven't proven she lied, like you....LOLOLOL
A sick, bitter old warmonger.
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you know, i expected him to exit with some dignity and decorum. i guess not.
And CH still ignoring his own advice.....how small he really is....
They should all put a fucking sock in it."
Idiots like trump are, and always have been, pieces of shit.
Especially buying 5 deferments for those disabling bone spurs as he grew long hair, smoked pot and went to college...LOLOLOL
McCain, walking back his view statements.
Ok.
I don't think anyone lied. Or anyone was called a liar. The president did say his name but Mrs. Johnson was upset because it wasn't at the tip of his tongue.
MJ: Yes the President, said that he knew what he signed up for, but it hurts anyway. And it made me cry cause I was very angry at the tone of his voice and how he said he couldn’t remember my husband’s name. The only way he remembered my husband's name is because he told me he had my husband’s report in front of him and that’s when he actually said La David. I heard him stumblin' on trying to remember my husband’s name and that’s what hurt me the most, because if my husband is out here fighting for our country and he risked his life for our country why can’t you remember his name. And that’s what made me upset and cry even more because my husband was an awesome soldier.
Given that she just lost her husband we should give the widow some slack.
However, Trump was also unjustly pilloried by the media and the people who deliberately politized it deserve nothing but contempt.
"you know, i expected him to exit with some dignity and decorum. i guess not."
He's never shown any dignity and decorum yet.
Hell, he even signed on with Obama to invade Syria.
Given that she just lost her husband we should give the widow some slack.
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indeed.
yet frederica the rodeo clown seized the moment to score cheap political points.
and the alky cheered her on.
Common -
Sorry... but I grew up military. My dad was an E8 (both a first sergeant and a master sergeant). If my dad had died... or one of my sons died in combat and the President called me. The very last thing I would want to do is to have it become a media circus or to let my local House Representative make a political issue out of it.
Once you start talking to politicians or talking to the media about something like this... the whole.. I am a grieving family member deal... sort of gets tossed out of the window.
That being said... I think we have all had about as much as we can take out of this. The whole lot of them needs to shut up... and that includes the grieving widow. If she is bound and determined to start doing media interviews and coming on talk shows... then she deserves the political flak she gets.
You can't have it both ways.
LIAR-etta is calling me a pedo. That means pedophile.
I never said your name.
Guilty?
Loretta said...
I never said your name.
Guilty?
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Oh, LIAR-etta was the FIRST to put my name here. Neither I nor anyone else had ever gone so far as to put my full name here until AFTER she did. She also put the name and location of my previous church and later my address and even that wasn't enough for her. For no reason at all she put my wife's name here and even my wife's picture. And all of that without any restraint at all from S. Scott Johnson, blog administrator, who lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota and allows libel on this blog, which recently even included the libel that he enjoys fellatio.
I HAVE stopped spamming. All my posts since I said I would have been either my own comments or the shortest of outtakes from news and opinion sources, with links provided.
"Draft beer, not boys"
"Hell no, we won't go"
LOL.
POSERS.
Shut up.
Bone spurs work well.
All while our troops were on foreign soil...
Roger used flat feet as an excuse.
James and Dennis marched in the streets fearing their number would be called.
Chanting "hell no, we won't go"
All three are POSERS.
"It's horrible what I went through, horrible what my family went through," O'Reilly told The New York Times reporters Emily Steel and Michael S. Schmidt.
Yeah, 32 mil to pay off a non consensual sex charge must really hurt.
LOL
LIAR-etta lies again.
I never marched and chanted, "Hell no, I won't go."
I even SUPPORTED our involvement in 'Nam for quite some time.
Then I didn't.
And I knew darn well that when even Paul Harvey came out against the war, we'd be getting out.
Opposition to the war may have kept the number of names on the Memorial Wall in DC at ca 58,000 rather than 100,000.
Janr, your preoccupation with sex is noted.
Lol, "Nam".
The President called the widow a liar.
Is that acceptable?
Trump should have just said, "This was a part of the fog of war" like Hillary said of the Benghazi family members.
I did not use flat feet as an excuse.
Twit, I tried to voluntarily enlist in the United States Navy. I was signing up for a six year enlistment. I was going to join the nuclear power program. Before they accept that, I had to take a test. I scored in the 98% test. I missed 100% because I had a problem with the mathematical section by about 10%.
Lol, "Nam".
That problem with math continues.
Nope
"I did not use flat feet as an excuse."
You received the same deferment Trump received.
Trump didn't dodge the draft, he showed up but received a deferment...just like you.
Then the other two marching in lockstep with the other anti-war protesters is priceless.
"Lol, "Nam"."
LOL
Roger -
Unfortunately... this whole thing sort of reminds me of the James, Roger, Jame's fucking dad, ACLU, comment moderation deal here...
Nobody seems to want to just "let it go" without having the last word. Everyone treats their own personal protocol breaking as acceptable, while feeling that everyone else should be held accountable if they do not follow decorum. In the end, everyone looks stupid.
Should the President drop it. Yes.
Should the congresswomen drop it. Yes.
Should the widow drop it. Yes.
I would tell the grieving widow to grieve on the day your husband is getting buries... and that grieving does not include making statements, taking interviews, or otherwise putting yourself out there in the public eye.
because once you decide to go politicize this event (again) - you are opening yourself up to whatever forms of retaliation. Right wrong or indifferent... it's the reality.
This whole... I get to say whatever I want, and everyone else has to shut up nonsense is downright systematic these days. You have no such right.
LOL Not Nam.
'Nam.
A friend of mine, one of our most decorated Marines,
who later turned against that war, always called it that.
S. Scott, I have stopped spamming.
But you still allow libel and slander that you should not.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The President called the widow a liar.
Is that acceptable?
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if she lied, then yeah.
look, frederica the low IQ rodeo clown thinks this whole ordeal has made her a "rock star." it's obvious to anyone with a brain that the rodeo clown has been manipulating the widow and her family into keeping this controversy alive. just so the rodeo clown can have the 15 minutes of fame she would not have gotten otherwise.
the dumb fuck really thinks she's hit the celebrity jackpot because the white house is "talking about her."
and you're stupid enough and angry enough at trumpo that you'll defend the dumb bitch to the end of the earth.
the rodeo clown needs to be smacked down until she stays down. and then smacked down again to make sure she got the fucking message.
It would be an amusing quandary, should some court in California require the Administration to continue payments for insurance subsidies while at the same time some Federal court has enjoined against them. It could happen.
Big websites like Facebook, Drudge Report, Breitbart News, Google and the New York Times would face substantial punishment if they don't make "reasonable efforts" to block foreigners from posting political ads under new election legislation pushed by Sen. John McCain and two Democrats.
The "Honest Ads Act," co-sponsored by Democrats Virginia Sen. Mark Warner and Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, would put new legal requirements and punishments on websites with 50 million unique monthly readers that take a tiny $500 or more in political ads from one advertiser.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mccain-joins-dems-to-regulate-drudge-google-facebook-political-ads/article/2638332
well let's see...
he was supposed to complete the dang fence.
dishonest ad.
he ran tons of ads promising to repeal 0linsky-care.
each ad dishonest.
so he wants to be remembered as a liar and a hypocrite?
apparently so.
Lol , "Nam"
Holy shit, jane you have contraced HB glory seaking syndrome.
Not only do make believe you know a Marine, but your Jar head is one of the most decaorated MF to ever fight in the crotch.
LORDIE.
.Stumpy the idiot posted....
LORDIE.
Wow, such a cogent post for the moronic kansan whose only service was to his wife and goats....sad...
Nobody seems to want to just "let it go"
Especially you CH....that's what the 6th or seventh time you have posted after you recommended all to shut the fuck up??? Why can't you let go....seems to me you defend out of guilt that you and your minions are wrong and can't admit it. LOL
Trump didn't dodge the draft, he showed up but received a deferment.
And when did that happen, Loretta??? He received a deferment after he paid off a doctor for his crippling bone spur. That was a classic draft dodger tactic at that time during that time. available only to those with money....and you know it....idiot....
BWAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
because once you decide to go politicize this event (again)
Thanx to trump.....this would have never happened....When will that sink into your thick skull
Loretta the worthless hag posted...
James and Dennis marched in the streets fearing their number would be called.
WHEN IN DOUBT, JUST MAKE SHIT UP.....the only thing you did was fuck a marine to get out of your house, IOW's a cheap whore......sad....
As far as the president is concerned, negative equals fake, and positive equals real. It's as simple as th
As far as the press is concerned, negative coverage of the president is considered news, positive won't be reported. It's as simple as that.
"so he wants to be remembered as a liar and a hypocrite?"
No problem.
"positive won't be reported. It's as simple as that."
Bingo.
My bitch.
Jane, your side has accused me of having sex with every beast on my ranch.
Tell my what to do.
A, know that it is meaningless, statements made by people I don't know and will never meet.
b, fake lawsuits and fake contact UCLU to shut down a blog that you are free to leave and never return.
The uranium One story never happened. I know it for a fact. Hillary said so.
Next, didn't a Republican get in to a dust up for using "crosshairs"?
It continues to amaze me that Obama & Hillary did the crimes and there were NO charges... and Trump has done NO crimes and there are charges. To date there is no reasonable reason for me not to support President Trump 100% and before you go off on me... hating is choice NOT a reason.
No I didn't have my doctor write a diagnosis of a bone spur. I was examined by the government doctor. I wanted to join the nuclear power program for six years in the US Navy. If you would be able to comprehend what I said, you wouldn't have looked so stupid again.
6:36
KD, I too was once ridiculously charged with having sex with animals.
That went on for days and days and finally Ch intervened to say he didn't believe any such thing.
At one time I was supposedly homosexual (I am not).
Lately I've been called a pedophile.
All preposterous and unworthy of this blog and of the people who make such allegations on either side.
Your case is not as strong as mine, however, for you have never had your legal name and location linked to charges of bestiality.
And by the way, I never said that of you, yet you did call me a pedophile.
That Marine and I spent an evening drinking Jack Daniels. I held off and let him drink more so I could hear his war stories. They were awesome. And he WAS much decorated for numerous acts of valor.
Then he changed, hated the war, and all he cared about was keeping himself and his men alive.
And he DESPISED Nixon. Had fantasies of assassinating him ("I know how" -- he was a sniper.)
KD, almost every time you open your mouth you disgrace yourself.
Trump's interview with Fox Business Channel’s Maria Bartiromo was softball, yet Trump flubbed it disastrously, graphically revealing that HE DOES NOT NOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT
Matthew Iglesias said: "He’s simply incapable of discussing any topic at any length in anything remotely resembling an informed or coherent way.”
EPIC FAIL; EPIC FOOL IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/23/16522456/trump-bartiromo-transcript
Read the article linked above.
And laugh.
And cry.
Trump ranks abysmally low on REALITY.
The President made the attacks on Obama that started the whole thing.
I have the right to believe that the President has no empathy for the widow. You appear to believe him, over the widow. Your comments appear to me, that you have no empathy for the widow also. You have in effect, called her a liar too. Sometimes principles are more important than the political argument.
Jane did what HB glory seaking syndrome requires, embellish.
Lol,"nam"
Sometimes principles are more important than the political argument.
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yet all you've been engaged in for the past year since election day has been one long hyperbolic political argument.
principles? you should look into getting some.
pro tip: being virulently anti-trump is not a principle.
"KD, almost every time you open your mouth you disgrace yourself."
Rich.
The constitutionality of the "Honest Ads Act" is questionable at best.
It's not surprising McCain and the other Democrats would sponsor it.
"African American man charged with anti-black graffiti that shook Eastern Michigan University"
Yeah, no one saw that coming.
Roger AmickOctober 23, 2017 at 10:58 PM
The President made the attacks on Obama that started the whole thing.
I have the right to believe that the President has no empathy for the widow. You appear to believe him, over the widow. Your comments appear to me, that you have no empathy for the widow also. You have in effect, called her a liar too. Sometimes principles are more important than the political argument.
We can make sense, but there are some here have no empathy for the widow. Instead of addressing this issue, they rely on the insults directed at me, time after time.
The President made the attacks on Obama and other previous Presidents. Since then, all we see from him are the impulsive narcissistic and childish insults. He is essentially called the widow of the fallen Gold Star soldier a liar. That's all you have to do is recognize his personal limitations. He has no empathy for the widow or anyone else.
There are times when principles apply over political expectations. He directs all of his tweets to his base supporters. He isn't trying to unite the country. Not going to happen. Substantial percentages of the Americas do not see him as competent. So his "strategy " works for the base but not for the people of the United States in general.
Ch is all upset that Trump and the present administration is now getting the Benghazi treatment.
As long as that sort of thing was being done to Obama and Clinton, it was fine with Ch.
Two More States Move Towards Clinton
Cook Political Report:
“Last week, we moved seven states towards Clinton. This week, we are moving two additional states in her direction, giving her an advantage of 293 electoral votes — 23 more than required to win.”
October 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM
This was the final shifts to Hillary, all was going her way, as HB told us She has it all, the 1.2 Billion Dollar war chess, the massive media on her side, oh then the star power, Hollywood and then their was political muscle of Moochelle, Bill the Rapist, Nancy and Chuck and then the black ace card jv Obama.
Yep, she had the glass ceiling ball room booked and the drapes messured.
pro tip: being virulently anti-Olinsky is not a principle.
It's political and yes you have no empathy for the widow or anyone else who dares to speak out against the President. Your "principles " are anger and prejudice against Beaners, etc
Trump becomes president and it seems most of the world is coming apart.
The ten words most used to describe Trump:
incompetent
arrogant
strong
idiot
egotistical
ignorant
great
racist
a** hole
narcissistic
He has no empathy for the widow or anyone else.
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i'm certain that he has an enormous amount of empathy, sympathy, and respect for the widow of the fallen soldier.
i'm also certain that he has no patience for someone who would allow themselves to be so badly manipulated to further a overt political agenda.
we've seen this time and again, most notably with the parents of michael brown and trayvon martin. one moment they're grieving the loss of a loved one, the next moment they're on MSDNC getting manipulated while selling t-shirts with their son's likeness or the lie "hands up, don't shoot."
trump acted presidential and reached out to a grieving widow. unfortunately, he was just a little too late since a shameless, low IQ, parasite who dresses and acts like a fucking rodeo clown had already gotten her partisan hooks into the grieving widow.
since discretion is the better part of valor, trump should drop it now.
and going forward, in order to avoid the liberal media trap, all correspondence to the loved ones of the fallen needs to be in writing ONLY. signed personally, and not with his auto pen.
President Trump likes epithets. His latest is “wacky Congresswoman Wilson,” referring to Representative Frederica S. Wilson, the Florida Democrat who listened to his botched attempt at expressing condolences to the widow of a United States soldier killed in Niger.
So I’d like to suggest “bone-spur bozo” for the president, referring, of course, to the five military draft deferments Trump received during the Vietnam War, one of which was a medical deferment for bone spurs in his feet. (They never apparently affected his life, or golf swing, thereafter).
Repetition is part of Trump’s arsenal. The bone-spur bozo residing in the Oval Office, surrounded by terrified sycophants, has sinister talents. Turning the solemn rites of loss in the line of military duty into a squalid, race-tinged scandal is some achievement.
Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and a decorated Vietnam War veteran, picked up on those foot issues in a C-Span interview the other day. McCain, who is fighting brain cancer, said of the conflict: “We drafted the lowest income level of America, and the highest income level found a doctor that would say they had a bone spur.”
That would be Trump, the coward who gets his testosterone kick from nuclear brinkmanship.
Btw, I write my comments.
If you want to go crazy, check out the new Roger selfie on Facebook. Compared to me one year ago, the soon to be a six months survivor, you will be disappointed. And yes I would challenge Jimmy to be my spotter, because he cannot keep up with the old man.
Ch is all upset that Trump and the present administration is now getting the Benghazi treatment.
If four soldiers didn't die that would be a laughable overreach.
Get back to us when Trump claims the attack was the result of a "spontaneous" demonstration.
And when he wrongly arrest an internet video producer to cover his tracks.
What we know so far:
1. This was a planned ambush.
2. Help and Support was on the way immediately after it was called in. Nobody abandon the soldiers to their fate.
3. And nobody has lied to the American people on what happened.
It's political and yes you have no empathy for the widow
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i have immense empathy for the widow.
my empathy ends when she wraps herself in the cloak of partisan liberal hackery handed to her by a retarded rodeo clown.
Trumpism gone wild.
Bone Spur Bozo LOL
Is Rat calling Trump a retarded rodeo clown? :-)
Trump becomes president and it seems most of the world is coming apart.
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only the world of liberal-land is coming apart, pederast.
the rest of us are enjoying a newly minted supreme court justice, a rocketing stock market adding bigly to our investments, 1.5 million FEWER folks on food stamps, consumer confidence higher than it's been in DECADES, ISIS in tatters and on the run, and the almost complete dismantling of the 0linsky legacy.
oh, and adam shitt's russia, russia, russia, narrative is turning to shit.
heh.
Paul Krugman has nailed it.
Last week John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, tried to defend President Trump against charges that he was grossly insensitive to the widow of a U.S. soldier killed in action. In the process, Kelly accused Frederica Wilson, the member of Congress and friend of the soldier’s family who reported what Trump had said, of having behaved badly previously during the dedication of an F.B.I. building.
Video of the dedication shows, however, that Kelly’s claim was false, and that Representative Wilson’s remarks at the ceremony were entirely appropriate. So Kelly, a former general and a man of honor, admitted his error and apologized profusely.
See? I made a joke!
In reality, of course, Kelly has neither admitted error nor apologized. Instead, the White House declared that it’s unpatriotic to criticize generals — which, aside from being a deeply un-American position, is ludicrous given the many times Donald Trump has done just that.
But we are living in the age of Trumpal infallibility: We are ruled by men who never admit error, never apologize and, crucially, never learn from their mistakes. Needless to say, men who think admitting error makes you look weak just keep making bigger mistakes; delusions of infallibility eventually lead to disaster, and one can only hope that the disasters ahead don’t bring catastrophe for all of us.
"When #Democrats start wheeling out clowns dressed as saloon hookers, they are desperately trying to swerve away from the news. #UraniumOne" - James Woods
LOL, saloon hooker
No
One
Cares
Take note:
rrb just called Rev. James Boswell of Normal, IL a pederast
Ch* is silent.
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*S. Scott Johnson of Minneapolis Minnesota
my empathy ends when she wraps herself in the cloak of partisan liberal hackery handed to her by a retarded rodeo clown.
I wouldn't put it past the retarded rodeo clown to pressure the widow into a making a public statement.
The reasons she gave (Trump didn't remember her husband's name fast enough) seem rather specious.
And you get the distinct impression she really didn't want to do it.
Anonymous wphamilton said...
To be frank James, no one is going to comment on the cut and paste editorials because we don't appreciate them in this blog.
The first sentence of the first one was stupid, which further disinclines me to skim through it.
October 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM
a year ago he was asked gently to stop , jane has no self control.
OH, Jane you dope, IF you really read what I posted it was not a question to you it was mocking you.
Seems protests are breaking out over Trump's EPA's
censoring of real scientists who are not fake scientists.
Somebody clue KD in that I'm not spamming now.
Free speech still exists here on this blog.
"only the world of liberal-land is coming apart, pederast."
"Their" world is falling apart, lol.
She new what time that call was coming from the President, she "staged" the us rep to be there, so sad, this widow trading on her dead husbands cold body.
We are ruled by men who never admit error, never apologize and, crucially, never learn from their mistakes.
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says a partisan hack who has been so wrong so many times i've lost count.
if you're copying and pasting krugman to bolster your argument you're an idiot of the highest order.
this is the guy who told us the internet was a passing fad and that trumps election would crater the stock market which would never recover.
Now the widow is bitching because they wouldn't let her see his body...
And you get the distinct impression she really didn't want to do it.
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THAT'S the most disgusting part of all. that liberals would so nakedly manipulate a gold star widow for political gain.
this is exactly why i consider liberals to be mentally ill, scum of the earth, fuckwits.
Republican politicos are scared to death
1) they aren't going to be able to get a tax bill
2) Trump will pull a Chuck and Nancy on them and cause to fall apart what they do come up with
and that will hit them hard in upcoming House elections
Blogger Loretta said...
Now the widow is bitching because they wouldn't let her see his body..
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the chairman of the joint chiefs spoke to this yesterday. i paraphrase:
"while we often advise against viewing the remains, we never prohibit the family from doing so if they insist."
Good Lord...
"Gold Star widow Johnson: ‘They wouldn’t let me see my husband’s body, don’t know if it was even in that box’"
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/10/gold-star-widow-johnson-they-wouldnt-let-me-see-my-husbands-body-dont-know-if-it-was-even-in-that-box/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=alt&utm_source=amn
There is a reason the military states "Nonviewable Remains." Horrific injuries or burns are only part of it. It often takes a couple of days to recover a body, days during which decay sets in. Bodies swell, odor sets in. Climate also affects rate of decay.
In Vietnam, insects and small animals/rodents decimated bodies within hours of death. The remains are put into a leak and odor proof body bag, then into a casket. There is no embalming. This needs to be explained to this nitwit.
If she wishes, the funeral home holding the body can unzip the body bag long enough to verify that it holds human remains, and do a DNA test to confirm who's remains are in the casket
*who's
whose
Actually, I would like to thank Trump for his handling of this in such a way as to energize the black vote.
Blogger Loretta said...
Good Lord...
"Gold Star widow Johnson: ‘They wouldn’t let me see my husband’s body, don’t know if it was even in that box’"
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retard rodeo clown and her cohorts are playing this poor woman like a stradivarius.
Loretta said...
*who's
whose
who cares??????? and she is a nit wit.....nice... And that makes you what????? .idiot
My bitch
Anonymous james said...
Actually, I would like to thank Trump for his handling of this in such a way as to energize the black vote.
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well pederast, after spending an entire year painting trump as a virulent racist and the second coming of nathan bedford forrest himself didn't get black folk to the polls, i doubt this will either.
but hey, everyone has to have a dream. and some, unlike you, have dreams that do not contain sodomizing little kids.
"retard rodeo clown and her cohorts are playing this poor woman like a stradivarius."
Yeah, true. But this "conspiracy" sounds like it's all on her.
Personally, I'd make sure the camera was rolling, I'd flip open the coffin, unzip the bag and let her get a good whiff.
Loretta said...
My bitch
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! My idiot....
unzip the bag and let her get a good whiff.
Would probably stink just like you......my idiot
Personally, I'd make sure the camera was rolling, I'd flip open the coffin, unzip the bag and let her get a good whiff.
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yup.
for folks like her, sometimes the only lesson that penetrates the skull is the hard lesson.
Gee... the US has something in common with Syria......sad, just like loretta....
Nicaragua signs Paris climate deal, leaving US, Syria as only countries out
if you're copying and pasting krugman to bolster your argument you're an idiot of the highest order. this is the guy who told us the internet was a passing fad and that trumps election would crater the stock market which would never recover.
That's a lie!!! He never called it a passing fad.
He said it would end up being no more important than the fax machine.
(chuckle)
Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal.
The President’s primary problem as a leader isn’t that he is brash and stupid, “It is that he is weak and sniveling. It is that he undermines himself almost daily by ignoring traditional norms and forms of American masculinity.”
Chuckle
The President’s primary problem as a leader isn’t that he is brash and stupid, “It is that he is weak and sniveling. It is that he undermines himself almost daily by ignoring traditional norms and forms of American masculinity.”
Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Peggy Noonan in the Wall Street Journal.
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oh alky, you're so cute when you latch onto those never trumpers.
under any other circumstances you wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire, but every so often they emerge with a quip insulting to trump and you just swoon.
This blog is irrefutable evidence that he's correct.
But we are living in the age of Trumpal infallibility: We are ruled by men who never admit error, never apologize and, crucially, never learn from their mistakes. Needless to say, men who think admitting error makes you look weak just keep making bigger mistakes; delusions of infallibility eventually lead to disaster, and one can only hope that the disasters ahead don’t bring catastrophe for all of us.
Paul Krugman PhD and Pulitzer prize-winning economist in contrast to a Minnesota blogger.
Rat can only talk about sodomy cause he ain't got nothing better to say and LIAR-etta comes up with a post "let her get a good whiff" that is as insensitive as it gets.
Guess it's because---- they're BLACK?
oh alky, you're so cute when you latch onto those never trumpers.
And what would you call your constant fellation of trump, cleansing the gene pool??? ......LOL
President Trump's disapproval rating saw a bump on Monday as controversy continued over his call to a Gold Star widow.
According to the daily presidential tracking poll from Rasmussen Reports, Trump has a 41 percent total approval rating and 58 percent total disapproval rating. This latest disapproval figure is Trump's highest since August 31.
Dow "17,000 with Trump election"
Nailed it!
Guess it's because---- they're BLACK?
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apparently the fact that they're black is extremely important to YOU.
WE... haven't mentioned it.
the only color i focus on in a case like this is GOLD. as in gold star widow.
typical liberal... when you're not being a hypocrite you're busy playing the race card.
go fuck yourself pederast, because we ain't taking the race bait.
We are ruled by men who never admit error, never apologize and, crucially, never learn from their mistakes.
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i wish krugman would explain why he feels the need to bring 0linsky into this.
talk about a guy who would never admit error, never apologize, and never learn...
0linsky was the king of those behavioral traits.
"Dow 17,000 with Trump now the President elect" little lady lynn and Krugman..
The left lost billions "shorting" the Trump rally.
"the only color i focus on in a case like this is GOLD. as in gold star widow."
Her color isn't her problem, her ignorance is her problem.
She's the left's new Cindy Sheehan, also a dumbass.
Stumpy the idiot once again makes shit up/
The left lost billions "shorting" the Trump rally.
Sure asswipe...
But we are living in the age of Trumpal infallibility: We are ruled by men who never admit error, never apologize and, crucially, never learn from their mistakes?
Just out of curiosity Roger what error did Obama admit and apologized for.
Or for that matter what did any of his senior staff and cabinet admit to?
Syrian red line? Obama never mention it again.
Benghazi? Obama falsely arrested a video producer and Susan rice when on the Sunday shows five times and deliberately lied to the American people. No apology was ever issued.
Libya? As Hillary Clinton said; "What diffrence does it make."
"The police acted stupidly" ?
Well there was a beer summit but no apology.
So Roger where was this transparency and humility during the Obama years?
Keep it up, keep it up. Defend the indefensible.
Trump messed up with the gold star families on
several levels and in several ways.
And in this case, it's YOU who are playing
the race card, against yourselves.
LOL, smart by half.
"Because they'are BLACK" Jane
Nope, stupid comes in every human color.
So Roger where was this transparency and humility during the Obama years?
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hypocrisy.
bedrock.
liberalism.
Well, at a cerian point you've made enough money" jv obama
What a stupid fuck.
Apparently Obama hasn't found that point yet.
What rat said.
Nope, He and Hillary and other liberals never will.
#UrianiumOne
145 million dollars "donated" to the clinton foundation.
"Nailed IT"
Little lady Lynn parroting Pauline Krugman on the morning of Nov 9th, 2016.... the market futures drop 700 points.
"Markets will never recover" krugman
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