"This will leave countless women without the critical birth control coverage they need to protect their health and economic security. We will take immediate legal steps to block these unfair and discriminatory rules.”So, to be clear... we are talking about undoing a government mandate that the courts already deemed to be in violation of the federal religious freedom restoration laws in certain situations (Hobby Lobby - Little Sisters of the Poor). In fact, there are currently 200 employers who either have been or currently are in court cases making similar arguments as Hobby Lobby and LSOTP. The Trump move was made largely as a means to help these organizations to reinforce existing or resolve their lingering court cases.
However... we now have people who will advocate that it's unconstitutional for the Government "not" to mandate that private citizens (employers) provide a particular good (birth control) to other private citizens... because "not" doing so would somehow be deemed to be "discriminatory". Makes you wonder out loud which part of the constitution is being violated and whether or not they will even provide any such argument.
I would love to hear how your Hawaii or California Judge is going to spin this one, in order to reach a liberally political favorable decision? At some point in time, will the left finally admit that they no longer see the courts as an arbitrator of the law, but as a means to challenge policy they disagree with?
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The Sandra Flucked Whore Effect.
When did some woman become so poor?
There you go again.
Stage Four.
Trump reached out to Schumer to work on 'great HealthCare Bill'
But the Senate Democratic leader said he rebuffed Trump's suggestion of another Obamacare repeal effort.
President Donald Trump said on Saturday that he had talked with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to see if Democrats want to help on a “great HealthCare Bill” — but Schumer separately indicated the conversation didn’t exactly go smoothly.
"I called Chuck Schumer yesterday to see if the Dems want to do a great HealthCare Bill. ObamaCare is badly broken, big premiums. Who knows!" the president wrote on Twitter Saturday morning.
Schumer, in a statement, said Trump had suggested another Obamacare repeal-and-replace effort, which the New York Democrat said was a non-starter.
"The president wanted to make another run at repeal and replace and I told the president that's off the table,” Schumer said. “If he wants to work together to improve the existing health care system, we Democrats are open to his suggestions. A good place to start might be the Alexander-Murray negotiations that would stabilize the system and lower costs."
Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee Chairman Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) and ranking member Patty Murray (D-Wash.) have been working on a bipartisan agreement to fund Obamacare's insurance subsidies and provide some certainty to health insurance markets after the latest repeal effort failed last month.
On Saturday morning, a Democratic aide did not express optimism about bipartisan cooperation with the White House on health care.
“Particularly after the birth control decision yesterday, the administration has to stop sabotaging the law before anything real can happen,” the aide said, referencing the administration’s sweeping rollback that will allow virtually any employer to claim a religious or moral objection to Obamacare's birth control coverage mandate.
Republicans are grappling over the future of the Affordable Care Act, after failing to meet a deadline late last month that would have allowed them to repeal Obamacare on a party-line vote. Despite years of promising to gut former President Barack Obama's health care law, the GOP has struggled to find a bill that satisfies the various factions of their party.
As for a possible partnership with Schumer, Trump already reportedly angered Republicans when he sided with Democratic congressional leaders over a debt limit and government funding deal in September. The president has also repeatedly criticized Senate Republicans, even though the party holds a slim majority in the chamber.
THE FIRST DUNCE PRESIDENT
so...
liberals are saying that women are too stupid to go to the store and buy a box of rubbers.
this, on the heels of the fat ass mooch telling women "Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice."
and liberals cannot imagine why they're losing white women voters.
well, if you stop insulting their intelligence every five minutes you might win some of them over.
Pretty sure they will go to the 9th circuit.
No one reads my spam.
No one respects a pedophile like me.
Signed,
Rev James Boswell
Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.
According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.
"This provides an exemption, and it's a limited one," said Roger Severino, director of the HHS Office of Civil Rights. "We should have space for organizations to live out their religious identity and not face discrimination."
He said he expects that most companies will continue to provide coverage for birth control and that the changes will only affect a tiny percentage of U.S. women. The new rules are being published Friday in the Federal Register and go into effect immediately.
But some health policy analysts say the new rule creates a huge opening that lets any employer claim an exemption, leaving their female workers to pay the full cost of any birth control out of pocket.
"It is a huge loophole for any employer that does not want to provide birth control coverage to their employees," says Dania Palanker, a professor at Georgetown University's Center on Health Insurance Reform.
The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.
It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.
"The Trump Administration is forcing women to pay for their boss's religious beliefs," said ACLU senior staff attorney Brigitte Amiri, in a statement.
The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, requires employer-provided health insurance policies to include coverage for preventive health care. After the law passed, HHS used its regulatory authority to specify what has to be included in those preventive services and birth control, including "all Food and Drug Administration approved contraceptive methods, sterilization procedures, and patient education and counseling for all women with reproductive capacity."
But the policy was controversial from the start.
Several companies and religious groups sued, saying the rule infringed on their religious freedom.
The Obama administration created an exemption for churches and allowed other "religious employers" to opt out by notifying the government. When they did so, the administration would arrange with their insurance companies to provide the coverage directly, without the employers' involvement.
But the Little Sisters of the Poor weren't happy with that workaround and sued.
The group's case, and a second one involving private businesses including the Hobby Lobby chain of craft stores, which has 32,000 employees, went to the Supreme Court.
The court ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby in 2014, saying privately held companies could object on religious grounds. And then, last year, the court issued a split ruling in the Little Sisters case, saying the government shouldn't fine the nuns but ordering the two sides to work out an arrangement that accommodates their religious beliefs.
Before a deal was reached, Trump became president.
"The Trump Administration is forcing women to pay for their boss's religious beliefs," said ACLU senior staff attorney Brigitte Amiri, in a statement.
It's a rather absurd notion that the worker has a right to the boss's money.
They do not. And I don't even think the 9th circuit would say they do.
Absent of the coercive force of the federal government workers do not have a natural right to employer provided health care.
Here's the drunkard's link
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/10/06/555970210/trump-ends-requirement-that-employer-health-plans-pay-for-birth-control
This is designed impove their religious beliefs upon their employees.
How does one "improve their religious beliefs"?
Do tell. Funny that HBRosen talking about procreation. Flacid.
This is designed impove their religious beliefs upon their employees.
This is the Orwellian argument "that since I can't impose my moral standards on you that means you are imposing your moral standards on me."
Only fascist prick would make that argument.
ACLU vs. BLACKMURDERSMATTER, Got into a shouting match, the get to won.
Why can't the left be happy?
"Equal Rights for woman"
The can whore all they want. No one is stopping them. Just don't look to others to pay for it. Well maybe Whinestien.
HB, is the poster child for "fascist prick"and "economic/financial Flacid sissy".
"Guttmacher's analysis of data from the federal government's national survey of family growth found that the vast majority of American women of reproductive age (15–44) — including 99% of all sexually experienced women and 98% of those who identify themselves as Catholic — have used a method of contraception other than natural family planning at some point. Women may be classified as sexually experienced regardless of whether they are currently sexually active, using contraceptives, pregnant, trying to get pregnant or postpartum.
"By their early 20s, some 79% of never-married women — and 89% of never-married Catholic women — have had sex. (Presumably, all married women have done so.) In short, most American women (including Catholics) have had sex by their early 20s, and virtually all of them have used contraceptives other than natural family planning."
Mrs Alzheimer's would have to call 911 to keep working out with me.💪💪💪💪
Impose spelling error doesn't mean I am wrong dumb ass
No, a spelling error doesn't make you any less of a fascist prick.
Half-a man, no one I have ever met is a self- fellating then you.
James why the new still a loser moniker, why have you gone into hiding.
Lol, exactly. Ette has broken both HB and Opie.
The quote of the day.
Donald J. Trump
Presidents and their administrations have been talking to North Korea for 25 years, agreements made and massive amounts of money paid.........hasn't worked, agreements violated before the ink was dry, makings fools of U.S. negotiators. Sorry, but only one thing will work!
Irresponsible, Duck And Cover
This"half a man" could kick your sorry ass, without breaking a sweat.
Trump is jealous.
Danish Divers Find Missing Body Parts of Swedish Journalist
By Reuters
WORLD
13 hours ago
COPENHAGEN — Danish police said on Saturday divers had found the head and the legs of Swedish journalist Kim Wall, who died in mysterious circumstances on an inventor's homemade submarine.
So now I'm not only the blog alky, but now I'm a fascist. Seig Heil!
No, I'm not a person to salute, and praise Dear Leader like our formerly esteemed host. All praise Dear Donald J. Trump.
If you use the coercive power of government to force your version of morality on me then you are a fascist.
And that's exactly what you're advocating.
For the real fascist who set aside the Constitution who he thought was secondary to his social justice vision then you would have to look to Trump's predecessor, Barack Obama.
Oh my, you have lost it.
This President is not going to ask for a declaration of war against the North Koreans. You will be standing side by side, and raising your right hand saying Seig Heil.
I will be saying that we need to #impeach your hero. You will be insulting me, as usual.
I'm not anywhere near a fascist. rrb is much closer. His belief in white superiority is much closer. If he had been born in Germany, and came of age in 1932, he would have been a brown shit.
Lol, you suck.
Facial ally, nice, spot on.
"If you use the coercive power of government to force your version of morality on me then you are a fascist.
And that's exactly what you're advocating."
It's always the biggest losers trying to bring us down to their level.
"Fascist Alky"
Your idea of personal freedom are those the Government grants you.
Obama the racist pimp hates the US CONSTITUTION, hated it for what he called "negative rights" against the government.
HB, how was it you failed to secure a "million dollar profit"?
That truly puts you in a special kind of class of loser.
Oh, GO DAWGS,
Insomnia Tweet Storm
Can't believe I finally got a good story in the @washingtonpost. It discusses the enthusiasm of "Trump" voters through campaign....
4:05 AM - Oct 7, 2017
...contributions. The RNC is taking in far more $'s than the Dems, and much of it by my wonderful small donors. I am working hard for them!
4:11 AM - Oct 7, 2017
Late Night host are dealing with the Democrats for their very "unfunny" & repetitive material, always anti-Trump! Should we get Equal Time?
5:00 AM - Oct 7, 2017
More and more people are suggesting that Republicans (and me) should be given Equal Time on T.V. when you look at the one-sided coverage?
5:04 AM - Oct 7, 2017
.@NBCNews is so knowingly inaccurate with their reporting. The good news is that the PEOPLE get it, which is really all that matters! Not #1
6:24 AM - Oct 7, 2017
Responsible behavior by the President?
I report, you fall in line and salute. Seig Hei!!!!!!
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The drunkard thinks he's on Facebook...
HB,is a special kind of self- fellating half of a man. He is the only person to be "blocked".
Omg, HB, you failed to execute a home sale for a"million dollar profit" your words, I have the post of yours.
Social Security paid yor medical bills?
Do tell.
Medicare
He's not sane but even crazy people can do the right thing once in a while.
He tweeted about Obama care.
I called Chuck Schumer yesterday to see if the Dems want to do a great HealthCare Bill. ObamaCare is badly broken, big premiums. Who knows!
Schumer said that he got a call.
We shall see.
Yes, Medicare has paid almost a million dollars to keep me working out and proving that the Kansas idiots are not very intelligent.
No $1,000,000 profit.
The White House is not trying to use the "supply side" bs this time. Cutting taxes has never resulted in enough economic growth, to pay for the deficit.
The Republican Party has largely abandoned its platform of fiscal restraint, pivoting sharply in a way that could add trillions of dollars in federal debt over the next decade.
Cutting spending to balance the budget was almost religion to the Republican Party for much of the past eight years. But all year long, despite their control of the White House and Congress, Republicans have not taken steps to balance the budget, to overhaul entitlement programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, or to arrest the growth of the country’s $20 trillion in debt.
With the House passing a critical budget resolution this past week, GOP lawmakers are charging forward next week with plans to cut taxes in a way that could add more than $1.5 trillion to the government’s debt over 10 years, with the goal of legislation by early next month. That is on top of an effort to significantly increase military spending. White House officials say their focus is on growing the economy now and dealing with the debt later.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/in-a-switch-gop-deserts-its-budget-cutting-mantra/2017/10/07/5a62b8be-a943-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html?utm_term=.3bc52c62adde
The George W. Bush tax cuts lead to a huge increase in the national debt and the "Great Recession" the deepest down turn since 1929. President Obama was President in the longest sustained months of growth in history, including till Trump brought us low growth and the firs loss of jobs in seven years.
HB, all I do is constantly correct you. You error so often.
What error will you make next?
20 trillion in debt. Inheritance of the lost years. Interest due is a fixed cost.
The only Republican that didn't blow up the federal budget after taking office in the last 40 years was George H. W. Bush. And Obama did it, too.
GHWB and WJC are the only presidents that have taken real steps to balance the budget since Nixon.
"only one thing will work"
The lost years.lol
K'putz comments are always stupid
Seven years ago, we got the first month of positive job growth. After an all-time record of seven years, we lost 33,000 jobs. Trump is to blame for breaking the record growth.
Indy, I know that. But, despite the Republicans, who have never given Obama one ounce of credit, that is quite an accomplishment.
Reagan raised taxes and fees for governmental services, to address the massive increase of the national debt.
The White House, to their credit, they are not projecting supply side growth that would have paid for the tax cuts.
"But, despite the Republicans, who have never given Obama one ounce of credit"
Boo hoo, drunkard.
Sober for five years, three months and twelve days.
I have been smarter than you since the second I was conceived.
That's all you ever have. The President has not been able to sustain the record straight record of job growth. The hurricanes had no impact on the numbers.
The President has not been able to sustain the record straight months of job growth. But let's guess, you are going to say alky spam again and again and again because you'll can't do anything better.
Yeah, you're so brilliant you were drunk most of your adult life.
No, I was not. I worked full time jobs, I never drank at or prior to going to work. Nor was I drinking heavily for most of my working life. I quit in 87, until 93. Off and on. But never uncontrollable until the last couple months, not years. I was damn good at my job. I usually did the technical aspects of the construction on commercial, industrial and medical facilities. I worked full time jobs, and usually worked with the other technical aspects of the construction, HVAC, electrical engineering and computer and controls, plumbing, etc and on and on.
And yes I was right. Alky alky alky blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's a joke, your judgement and obsession in regards to my life, is well, really weird.
Sure.
The first move of a Tyrant is to take all of the guns.
Trump supports the individual's right to keep and bear arms.
Obama does not.
White House officials say their focus is on growing the economy now and dealing with the debt later.
You spent eight years saying that Obama wants to take away the right to possess a rifle and other arms.
It never happened, because he never tried to do so.
Menstra strikes agin!
Obama was a cowardly piece of shit. He didn't have the balls to do an outright ban.
He went after the ammunition.
He most certainly tried. Three or four times he tried to ban "assault" rifles.
Just because he didn't succeed (because of that pesky 2nd amendment) didn't mean he tried to and would dearly like to take them away from all those "bitter clingers".
Two records owned by Obama and the lost years of this.
He double the US National debt.
His policies up Armed Americans with more weapon purchases then anytime in history.
"The Hurricanes had no impact on the numbers" Halfbaked.
You never , ever fail to deliver the most vapid economic/ financial stupidity.
Thanks.
US Auto sales surge in last report. The Detroit Free Press reported sharp auto sales jump. Final assembly plants are putting on extra shifts to met demand. FORD, F - 150 is running at full capacity as demand for the wildly popular truck increased.
To claim two hurricanes that wiped out two seaboards as well as multiple major cities had no affect on the job numbers is both ignorant and flat out absurd.
Stop posting about economics. You've proven many times over that you know nothing on the topic.
Trumpism has taken away your mind
There's no doubt TDS has taken yours.
You are not rational.
You don't need to be an "expert" on economics to post the facts available. The decline of 33,000 jobs, is the first time in seven years that we lost jobs.
That's a fact that you can't deny.
I quoted sources that said the hurricanes had no impact, because the statistics were taken from the time period before the hurricanes. That's the facts, jack. You have nothing to dispute that except insults.
I quoted sources that said the hurricanes had no impact, because the statistics were taken from the time period before the hurricanes. That's the facts, jack.
Gee no less than the Washington Post said it was due to the Hurricanes.
The U.S. economy lost 33,000 jobs in the aftermath of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma last month, the first decline since September 2010. The unemployment rate declined slightly to 4.2 percent, the lowest since February 2001.
Analysts had been expecting job growth to slump in September after the one-two punch from the hurricanes. This was worse than predicted: The decline in job growth ended a historic 83-month stretch of expansion, the longest such streak since the Bureau of Labor Statistics began the survey in the 1930s.
And your source?
Note also that the BLS revised the previous reports downward.
Alky alky alky blah blah blah going to the gym today and this man who underwent liver transplant sugary four months ago is kicking ass.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
You don't need to be an "expert" on economics to post the facts available. The decline of 33,000 jobs, is the first time in seven years that we lost jobs.
That's a fact that you can't deny.
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no one's denying it alky.
we're just noting it's relevance, or lack thereof.
economically it's like your trump - russia fantasy. LOL.
have another shot of 0linsky man gravy.
If Roger is correct... then this is the start of a trend and we will probably see another decrease in October.
If Roger is wrong... then the October job report will bounce back, possibly even showing a larger than normal number of jobs.
While Roger suggests he provided "sources" that claimed that the hurricanes had no impact... the financial analysts from Yahoo Finance, NYT, Fox Business, USA today, WSJ, CNN, etc...
and even the Bureau of Labor statistics itself...
suggested that the 38,000 loss was a reflection of the impact of Hurricanes Irma and Harvey.
But what do these people know about the economy. We have Mr Kerry in a landslide to provide us all with his towering intellect and wisdom.
This is just like the way Roger the idiot would boast of obama jobs created without looking at the fact that they were all temp, contract and part time jobs.
You know nothing about economics.
33 thousand jobs lost under trump....blame it on anything you want, but who was POTUS??? First monthly job loss in what 90 months or so? Will there be a rebound in a month?? Maybe, toss in another storm and we may not. Most economists think it is a tempeeoray thing and I tend to agree...Maybe Home Depot will hire lots of people in the SE with all the Nate damage...I'm sure the kansan will pat himself on the back due to his brilliance in investing.....And again, WTF does CH know about everything....LOL, too funny...
obama jobs created without looking at the fact that they were all temp, contract and part time jobs.
I'm sure our lazy balls less can prove that with a link, my guess he will post something calling me names, again. Yep, he has a masters in inanity..... LOL
Anonymous Myballs seeing America become great again said...
This is just like the way Roger the idiot would boast of obama jobs created without looking at the fact that they were all temp, contract and part time jobs.
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the alky is so fucking stupid, he can't process the fact that all those jobs during the 0linsky regime were created in spite of, and not because of 0linsky.
americans and our economy are pretty resilient. even with a massive regulatory boot on our neck.
and under 0linsky, GDP growth averaged 1.48% and never hit 3%. not once.
so yeah, captain 'kerry by a landslide' can crow all he wants over growth under his dear leader, but the facts say otherwise.
I was posting sources for eight years. Sorry you never bothered to pay attention.
What HB said,, just keeping him in check on his claims.
"I bought the house in Fullerton for $182,000 sold for 369 thousand. Yes if I sold it at the peak, well I have million dollar profit wouldn't have been too bad. " Alky
You stand alone is financial waste land having blown a chance to execute a "Million dollar Profit".
With the 2nd and 3rd mortgages you walked out with very little.
I was posting sources for eight years. Sorry you never bothered to pay attention.
Which proves what, you are getting lazier as you age???????
and under 0linsky, GDP growth averaged 1.48% and never hit 3%. not once.
If you look at whole years....my recollection he had 3% growth in about 8 individual quarters
http://fortune.com/2017/08/30/donald-trump-springfield-mo-3-gdp/
Now, that is a link that confirms what I said.......
http://money.cnn.com/gallery/news/economy/2017/01/06/obama-economy-10-charts-final/3.html
Interesting graph of GDP and how much the busch depression affected obama's numbers....take out 2009 and the number you posted changes drastically.....Why don't you come up with a number for busch and post it.....LOL
CH's position on the economy growing at 3% seems rather naive and full of fancy.....
From fortune magazine......
While its possible for President Trump to reach a 3% annual growth rate for 2017, most forecasters see GDP growth remaining modest over the next three years. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg expect GDP growth the hit 2.1% this year, 2.3% in 2018, and 2.1% in 2019.
The White House appears to be counting on 3% annual GDP growth to fund its tax cuts. The problem is, it’s unclear why the country, and indeed many developed nations, are growing more slowly than before.
Guess the deficit will continue to grow unabated since the trump plan will fall well short of total revenue.....
Some good people back in Charlottesville.
Photo/Steve Helber)
A group of white nationalists, led by so-called "alt-right" leader Richard Spencer, held a torchlit rally at a tarpaulin-covered statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee Saturday.
WVIR reported that approximately three dozen people gathered in Emancipation Park, carrying tiki torches and chanting "you will not replace us" and "we will be back."
The Daily Progress newspaper reported that demonstrations involving fewer than 50 people do not require a permit and the park is open to the public until 11 p.m.
"While we prefer protesters get permits like any other event," city spokeswoman Miriam Dicker told the paper in an email, "such assemblies are protected by the First Amendment and we do not interfere unless we perceive a legal or safety issue.
Unlike anybody else here I admit mistakes.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/05/news/economy/jobs-hurricane-impact/index.html
But, the previous reports were revised downloads.
We will be lucky to get 2.5% growth. And our debt is going to go through the ceiling if they pass the tax cuts. The great recession volume 2 you never know . But Republicans usually have that effect on the economy . Bill Clinton balanced the budget and had 20+ million jobs created . And he increased taxes . So you are not perfect in any way shape or form .
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/07/white-nationalists-rally-at-charlottesville-statue-for-third-time.html
The link.
"While we prefer protesters get permits like any other event," city spokeswoman Miriam Dicker told the paper in an email, "such assemblies are protected by the First Amendment and we do not interfere unless we perceive a legal or safety issue.
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the first amendment?
the right to peacefully assemble?
imagine that.
were the feewings of any sjw snowflakes hurt during the assembly alky?
http://politicsthatwork.com/economic-record-president/bush43
President George W. Bush has the worst economic record of any president since Hoover. He holds the worst performance for GDP growth, stock market performance and job creation of any president of at least the most recent 11 presidents, and is near the bottom of the lists for all of the other measures below. Every President since Hoover, except Nixon, has left office with the stock market above where it started. Some presidents have seen the value of the stock market double or triple. President Bush, however, left office with the S&P 500 being worth 1/3 less than it was when he entered office. All of the measures below show roughly the same pattern: a slump at the start, average growth in the middle and a precipitous drop at the end.
Bill Clinton balanced the budget and had 20+ million jobs created . And he increased taxes .
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and then the dot com bubble burst. and most of those jobs disappeared with the vapor ware business plans that preceded them. i was in the thick of it at the time, and had countless bullshit business plans presented to me. most were complete garbage and few survive to this day.
and no, clinton didn't balance the budget. the house GOP did.
"Now let us contrast this with the Clinton fiscal record. Recall that it was the Clinton White House that fought Republicans every inch of the way in balancing the budget in 1995. When Republicans proposed their own balanced-budget plan, the White House waged a shameless Mediscare campaign to torpedo the plan — a campaign that the Washington Post slammed as “pure demagoguery.” It was Bill Clinton who, during the big budget fight in 1995, had to submit not one, not two, but five budgets until he begrudgingly matched the GOP’s balanced-budget plan. In fact, during the height of the budget wars in the summer of 1995, the Clinton administration admitted that “balancing the budget is not one of our top priorities.”"
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/no-bill-clinton-didnt-balance-budget
you sure love your revisionist history, alky.
http://politicsthatwork.com/economic-record-president/bush43
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affiliated with abovetopsecret.com, d0pie?
LOL.
Cato .....shocking that they would have such a bias against clinton....the guy the R's wasted a year for a blow job..... and other BS...yep, they carried clintons water in spite of you denying it....LOLOL
affiliated with abovetopsecret.com, d0pie?
That all you got again rathole.....LOL you being a great thinker is not in your cards...but maybe a hollow point 280 is....How's that useless kid of yours doing...you know the one who had a teacher you turned in for watching TV.....LOL....bet he got beat up in HS due to is old man.....LOL
Trump can't accept criticism,even if it's absolutely true.
Sen. Bob Corker, the Republican chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, on Sunday called the White House "an adult day care center" after President Trump attacked him in a morning Twitter tirade.
Trump alleged in a trio of tweets that Corker "begged" him for his endorsement, did not receive it and decided to retire because he "didn't have the guts" to run for reelection next year in Tennessee.
In response, Corker tweeted, "It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning."
We have a mentally disabled President. But you love him, no matter what he does or says.
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Cato....but rat the hole posted it so it has to be accurate....just like his 280......If brains were dynamite,,,,the couldn't blow his nose.....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms
Roger have you noticed any time the donnie does not like or agree with a story....it becomes fake news....he's a whole lot more damaged than rat hole whom we know to be deranged.....LOL
I agree with CH on this one. It's a nonsense suit based on a political agenda.
I don't agree with a lot of the reasoning I see here. While it's true that employer supplied health insurance is not a constitutional right, nor any element of the insurance, that fact is not germane. It is part of the employee's compensation, and to boil it down the the basic principle it IS legitimately in the State's interest to forbid employers from taking advantage of their superior bargaining position to cheat their employees with respect to their compensation. The big question is, is eliminating a common portion of the coverage risible that level? I don't think so, not the least reason being that contraceptives are elective, for elective behaviors, and not really traditionally appropriate for insurance coverage to begin with. Buy your own contraceptives, or don't engage in risky behavior, or accept the risk for your own actions. Your choice, but it's not anyone else's obligation to compensate for it.
//en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms
Wikipedia....anyone can enter anything there....that only confirms what the media has said for years....but so what....LOLOLO, but cato....they got the data correct every time!!!
for elective behaviors,
Like drinking and eating unhealthy foods???? Should that eliminate coverage for heart disease and cancers and rehab??????
Anonymous commie said...
Cato .....shocking that they would have such a bias against clinton....
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facts are stubborn things, d0pie. and i'm not surprised that neither you nor the alky were willing to refute a single fact outlined in that article.
the fact is, clinton WAS dragged kicking and screaming to not only a balanced budget, but to welfare reform as well.
both of which he was glad to take credit for long after the fact.
he sure fooled the alky.
Like drinking and eating unhealthy foods???? Should that eliminate coverage for heart disease and cancers and rehab??????
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well, the alky drank himself to a liver transplant and that was covered.
It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.
Roger Amick said...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms
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so what's your point? even the wiki you cite states the following:
"Moreover, according to the United States Constitution, the United States Congress is responsible for government spending and thus, regardless of Presidential advocacy, bears constitutional responsibility for such things as spending and tax policy that have enormous effects upon the economy. Furthermore, it is debatable how much effect any President realistically could have on a system as large, diverse, and complex as the U.S. economy. Nevertheless, the nonfarm payrolls number is the one most frequently used in the media and by economists, largely because the alternative (household survey numbers) is thought to drastically overestimate employment."
i know skeets is desperate for a legacy that doesn't reflect the galactic failure that he was, and i can appreciate the fact that a devout and dutiful nutsack polisher like yourself has chosen to cover for him.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
year over year the BLS U-6 has dropped over a full point from Sept 2016.
9.3 to 8.0.Not seasonally adjusted
9.7 to 8.3 Seasonally adjusted
now THAT'S progress.
Roger Amick said...
It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.
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did trump send out a tweet that hurt your feewings alky?
Wrong again. I ate properly and my job kept me in good shape. I wasn't a full time drinker. I did smoke off and on. But I quit on January first in 1998. Not one since. My mother was a full time smoker. You need to understand that in the late fifties until the early seventies, cigarettes were not looked at like they are now. I stole my mother's Old Gold cigarettes. We had a tree house and we would smoke them there. I didn't lead an irresponsible life. I was just a normal person. I still feel young.
"The Hurricanes had nothing to do with the numbers" madam HB on the initial report on jobs showing a drop of 33,ooo.
Look, I know HB has no formal education on economics. So for 10 years I have given him a pass when he post his b.s..
What are the Three Stooges of CHT really cheering, well, they are cheering Americans Losing thier jobs.
The racist Republican bastard is obviously obsessed with the sober, and yes responsible man. Pity that he's a failure to lose weight so his fat ass is on deaths gate. No great loss.
Any one else here take up 30 pills a day to "feel young"? HB does.
What Steve Bannon Was Thinking One Year Ago
From Devil’s Bargain by Joshua Green:
'Privately, even Bannon had moments of doubt. In the depths of Trump’s worst scandal, after the Washington Post broke news of an Access Hollywood tape that captured his lewd comments about women and how he liked to “grab them by the p***y,” Bannon admitted to an associate that Trump might be done for. Yet he wasn’t despondent, not did he seem to view the possibility as a fatal setback to the broader movement.
“Our back up strategy,” he said of Clinton, “is to fuck her up so bad she can’t govern.” Psyching himself up to the task, he added, “My goal is that by November eighth, when you hear her name, you’re going to throw up.”
SO NOW WHEN WE HEAR TRUMP'S NAME WE WANT TO THROW UP.
Mr. MoochElle Obimbo stated to the voters of the USA what she see's is the problem with the Republican voter. They are "All White".
Trump Rips Corker
President Trump attacked Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) in a Twitter tirade, alleging that the Tennessee Republican “begged” him for an endorsement, did not receive it and “didn’t have the guts” to run for reelection, the Washington Post reports.
“Trump’s public lashing of a fellow Republican comes after Corker made headlines last week when he starkly suggested that the national security team provides the president with needed adult supervision.”
Corker responded to Trump’s attacks by tweeting, “It’s a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.”
Hi James, why are you a coward?
Her comes the Jane spam ..
Trump Legal Team Eases Resistance to Inquiry
New York Times: “White House officials once debated a scorched-earth strategy of publicly criticizing and undercutting Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russian efforts to disrupt last year’s election. Now, President Trump’s lawyers are pursuing a DIFFERENT course: COOPERATING with the special counsel in the HOPE that Mr. Mueller will declare in the coming months that Mr. Trump is not a target of the Russia inquiry.
“The president’s legal team is working swiftly to respond to requests from Mr. Mueller for emails, documents and memos, and will make White House officials available for interviews. Once Mr. Mueller has combed through the evidence, Mr. Trump’s lawyers plan to ask him to affirm that Mr. Trump is not under investigation, either for colluding with Russian operatives or for trying to obstruct justice.”
Why do some people fear the truth so much?
The GOP Abandons Any Pretense of Fiscal Responsibility
“The Republican Party has largely abandoned its platform of fiscal restraint, pivoting sharply in a way that could add trillions of dollars in federal debt over the next decade,” the Washington Post reports.
“Cutting spending to balance the budget was almost religion to the Republican Party for much of the past eight years. But all year long, despite their control of the White House and Congress, Republicans have not taken steps to balance the budget, to overhaul entitlement programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, or to arrest the growth of the country’s $20 trillion in debt.”
The Republican Party Is A Deficit Fraud
Stan Collender: “The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines committing fraud as the ‘intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value,’ and a fraud as ‘a person who is not what he or she pretends to be.'
“When it comes to the federal budget, both of these definitions fit the GOP perfectly.
“Contrary to what it still wants you to believe, the GOP — the political party that once supported “pay-as-you” go rules and balanced budget amendments to the U.S. Constitution and still routinely excoriates Democrats for what it says is their profligate ways — today is not the political party of fiscal responsibility and reduced deficits.
“Actually, it’s not at all clear this is anything new.”
Trump Supported the Right to Bribe Foreign Officials
New Yorker: “In February, a few weeks after Tillerson was confirmed by the Senate, he visited the Oval Office to introduce the President to a potential deputy, but Trump had something else on his mind. He began fulminating about federal laws that prohibit American businesses from bribing officials overseas; the businesses, he said, were being unfairly penalized.
“Tillerson disagreed… Tillerson told Trump that America didn’t need to pay bribes—that we could bring the world up to our own standards.”
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NO WONDER TRUMP HATES HIM!
I mean, when you add the fact that Tillerson rightly called Trump a moron and refused to take it back
Hi James, why are you a coward?
Don't worry. We know his real name and where he lives. We can just forward them to the original authors so that their lawyers can send cease and desist letters.
Lol, yep.
FEMA Brock Long , "We have filtered out San Juan Mayor long ago."
Exactly, she have the full line of DNC t-shirt inventory.
43% of those living on Porto Rico live in povery. The sole electric company is 9 Billion in debt.
rathole the idiot posted
facts are stubborn things, d0pie.
Just like the fact that clinton did more for the economy than busch....or that 1.6% obama growth is BS? Or that he did have 3% growth in quarters, or the fact you are a biased, bigoted moron....LOLOLOL
Like drinking and eating unhealthy foods???? Should that eliminate coverage for heart disease and cancers and rehab??????
If drinking and eating unhealthy foods were the only causes of heart disease and cancers, then yes. But it's obvious that it isn't the case.
Hb has laid his yellow teeth, liver failure and kidney collapse on his parents inherented gene's.
Blogger KD said...
Any one else here take up 30 pills a day to "feel young"? HB does.
HB does what he needs to, to get by. Like any of us.
Personally I ran yesterday to help me feel young, 8.5miles not fast but a work in progress. I wish it were covered by my insurance, so at least I could get some running shoes out of it. But insurance premiums are going up this year, even the high deductible that I prefer. We really need 1) medical care reform, and 2) Republican Congressmen getting OUT of the health insurance business. Number 2 alone would be a great start in keeping insurance costs down.
Medical care to buy running shoes, just damn.
We have Obamacare, it is sooooooo ggooood no one wants to change it, look at the votes. That is all that matter, period.
You have to be kidding, you believe the current state of dispair and rate jacking is because of Republicans?
When your life is highlighted by "getting by", well, god sped.
I am much younger then most if not all of you here, not once have I had a thought "what can I do to feel young:.
Stump broke demonstrates why he is an asshole......
KD said...
Any one else here take up 30 pills a day to "feel young"? HB does.
why does stump broke post such bullshit day in and day out??????
Stumpy the idiot post...
etc, liver failure and kidney collapse on his parents inherented gene's.
And you inherited your idiot genes from where....your pet goat or your parents......LOLOLO
rathole needs a life posted....
well, the alky drank himself to a liver transplant and that was covered.
Opinions are like assholes and you have several and huge......idiot.....
But it's obvious that it isn't the case.
They are major contributors in many cases....there is no question on smoking and second hand smoke.....an avoidable habit like eating a pound of bacon a day or a dozen crispy creams.....obesity is covered but avoidable except for some glandular malfunctions.... Too simplistic of a comment, especially for you.....
Roger, the Republicans gave Obama plenty of recognition for blowing up the federal budget after he took office.
I am much younger then most if not all of you here, not once have I had a thought "what can I do to feel young:.
I see guys around my age creeping along on bikes, or shuffling jogs, and I feel sorry for them because they've accepted their limits, or what they believe to be limits. But at least they're doing something. Men I work with, 20 or even 30 years my junior and I doubt they could keep up with me, in anything physical. They seem like they're in denial, they don't "have" to do anything to keep in condition, or to "feel young". I'd want to wake them up somehow, but people aren't receptive to being told they're deluding themselves.
Eating a pound of bacon may contribute to heart disease, just maybe there is a tiny link to cancer. Probably not, but for the sake of argument. But even if so there are vastly more cases of cancer and heart disease than might be caused by eating bacon. That is a false equivalence - THAT is the simplistic thinking - to birth control. There is only one way to get pregnant, and it is entirely elective.
If you want a truly accurate equivalence with mandated coverage of birth control, you'd have insurance cover the cost of health foods.
2) Republican Congressmen getting OUT of the health insurance business.
Considering ACA was entirely about putting Government smack dab in the middle of health insurance... what exactly are the "Republicans" doing (other than possibly trying to undo government mandates - aka doing exactly what you ask).
Unless you are arguing the false notion that "removing" government mandates and Government oversight is actually not "getting out".
Companies are citing "uncertainty" for rising costs, 100% due to the Republican bumbling with "repeal and replace". Since it's become clear that they will bring no constructive changes, the *Republicans* who are costing us so much need to get out of our business.
i agree, wp.
the GOP missed a golden opportunity to do what they promised to do.
the ACA alternative could have been written on the back of a napkin -
"repeal the ACA in total. every single word. full stop."
80+% of american's liked the coverage they had before the democrats "fixed" it.
to return to that scenario would be straightforward, the insurance markets would settle, and then the left can figure out how to expand medicaid for the needy without destroying the entire system.
Companies are citing "uncertainty" for rising costs
Insurance companies have actuaries who weigh the costs, risks, etc... They don't raise prices by 25% because of gut feelings like "uncertainty". You know better than that.
And to the degree there is uncertainty would be "entirely" based on whether or not the Government will continue to spent loads of money "propping up" the companies on the exchanges. So yeah, whether or not they will be reimbursed for losses (as they have been) is going to effect their insurance rates... but that isn't based on "more" government from Republicans, but actually the concept of "less" government.
The Insurance industry managed to stay a float quite well back before the Federal Government told them what to sell, did their advertising for them, and provided them with subsidies to offset losses.
So I believe what you really mean to say here...
Is that you would like the Republicans (who own the White House and both Houses of Congress) to get out of the way of the Democrats.... so they can continue to put the Federal Government front and center in the health care insurance industry.
WP...
You have already been brainwashed into believing that the Government controlling the Health Insurance Industry is normal and necessary. So any attempts to allow the private health care industry to behave as if they are private (gasp) is now considered government "meddling"... even if the industry being private has actually been the norm for decades.
Such thinking falls under the broad mental ailment called liberalism.
the *Republicans* who are costing us so much need to get out of our business.
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really.
before the democrats "fixed" the healthcare system by seizing 1/6th of the economy, most of america had coverage they enjoyed with manageable premiums, manageable deductibles and co-pays, and a policy that didn't cover things that were of no consequence to them.
then the democrats came along, "got in our business," and grubered the entire issue. deceiving and insulting and flat out lying to us along the way.
any blame you want to assign to the GOP begins and ends with their cowardly failure to repeal. and it was opportunistic liars like john mccain who led that effort.
Exactly, they broke the health insurance market, but, it is trumps fault.
Bingo. Repeal and restore capitalism.
HB how goes the pill cocktail?
I don't know where you're getting your opinions about the cost increase - I'm just relaying the facts as outlined in the letters from our insurance providers. It's not my opinion.
All of these abortive repeal and replace attempts, along with Trump's blustery promises with never any substance, drive up our insurance premiums. Republicans might as well own it, since it's going to be common knowledge just as soon as people start being impacted by it.
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
WP...
You have already been brainwashed into believing that the Government ...
CH, how can I make this more clear? How about "Keep your greasy favor-selling Republican sticky fingers OUT of our health care". Is that explicit enough for you, that I don't want your Republican government involved?
. Is that explicit enough for you, that I don't want your Republican government involved?
Then we are in agreement.
- No government mandate
- No government fines
- No government subsidies
- No government advertising
Get Government out of it.
Glad we agree on this.
Here is a classic example:
Anthem Health Plans, which is asking for an average 33.8 percent increase for individuals insured, cited the "dynamics and volatility" in products offered as part of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare.
Its rate request reflects increases in the cost of delivering medical services and pharmacy expenses and overall increases in the use of health care services by members in ACA plans, it said.
The rates being requested assume the funding of cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) – discounts that reduce what's paid for deductibles, co-payments, and coinsurance, Anthem said.
"However, the future funding of CSRs remains uncertain," it said.
Anthem warned of additional rate increase requests, elimination of certain insurance products or exiting markets "if we do not have certainty that CSRs will be funded for 2018 by early June."
So the 33% rate is tangibly requested because of a variety of costs and the use of health care services by members...
The only "volatility" mentioned is the CSR (which we all have been declared not part of the law by a Judge)... and that could include "Additional" rate increases above and beyond.
Bottom line WP: Rates had been rising, long before Trump took over the Presidency. They rose in 2016. They rose in 2015. They rose in 2014. They will continue to rise as time goes on.
You can retroactively blame Trump and Republicans all you want for a disaster that he had nothing to do with...
If it makes you feel better...
Do you not remember, when Obama was pushing this through, I was the lone voice in this forum advocating strongly against the individual mandate and fines??
Republicans had a chance to fix a few things, but they wanted to play politics and blew it. All that they have achieved, or will ever achieve, is to make things worse. I'm glad you agree: get the GOP the heck away from our health care before they screw up even worse.
Haha, funny that you leave out that "the proposed increases are due to increased medical and prescription drug costs, greater use of insurance and "uncertainty in the marketplace."
which is in every article I googled up relating to your c&p above
Republicans had a chance to fix a few things, but they wanted to play politics and blew it.
Which is to say that you thought Republicans should have done what Democrats wanted them to do... which was spend more money on it. Spending more money on the status quo is not a solution and for most Republicans is a non-starter.
Reality:
We had a health care insurance industry that was very popular with Americans who used it.
The goal of Obamacare is move people "from" their old insurance and onto either Medicaid or the exchanges...
The exchanges literally provide subsidies to the buyer AND the seller... and yet, the buyers are unhappy with the product and say it costs too much and the sellers are losing money...
and this is what you embrace and what you believe should be "left alone"?
Speaking of "reality", What exactly are you claiming that the Republicans have accomplished with the ACA?
Just the cold hard facts: the Republicans have FAILED in their efforts. In their failure, they have destabilized the industry, driven up costs, and discouraged people from seeking insurance and discouraged companies from offering it. Price did do some damage before resigning in disgrace, I suppose you can count that as an achievement. But for tangible improvements that actually improve health care for Americans, what are you bragging about?
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