Sunday, November 12, 2017

So you expect "everyone" to have blind faith in what they are told?

Look... just because you are willing to believe everything you are told by certain people in authority, doesn't mean you can expect everyone to share that belief. A group of known liars (such as James Clapper) demanded that our election was "hacked" by the Russians.  They provided little actual evidence of the claim, but demanded it was a consensus belief among those who "have access to the information".

So far what we know is that certain hacking into the RNC, DNC, Clinton, and Trump websites and email systems was done through certain levels of IP addresses that our intelligence suggests are tied to Russian hackers. Most IT security experts disagreed that any inference could be made from that information, mush less that it implicates Putin or the Kremlin. Resources have determined that Russian interests spent money on social media advertising. They have not shown us that any of this makes it to the Kremlin.

There is a lot of buzz, a lot of speculation, and a lot of innuendo. Even James Comey admitted that the FBI's conclusions were based more on "deduction" than they were on evidence.

At the end of the day Vladimir Putin is denying it. Obviously he would deny it whether or not he was or wasn't involved... but the point is that without hard evidence that points directly to Putin and the Kremlin.... he is sort of allowed to deny the allegations and even mock us a little.

As President of the United States, Donald Trump does not have the sort of actual evidence that he can show the world to prove Putin wrong. Considering we need to move forward with a relationship with Russia, what can Trump be expected to do? Continue to internationally accuse him without providing tangible proof of the accusations?

But... thank god:

we have a crack pot special investigator on the job. Robert Mueller is investigating the Russian hacking and whether or not there were Americans colluding on the hacking. He is said to have a team of investigators at his disposals along with 17 of the best investigative prosecutors in the land at his disposal. Estimates that thousands of hours and millions of dollars have been spent investigating the Russian involvement.

Since Robert Mueller's job was legally defined to investigate any Russian meddling and any collusion between the Russian Government and U.S. citizens... one must assume that we have uncovered much in relation... especially considering the cost of this investigation and reports that he is "just getting started".

Certainly Robert Mueller will come back with solid evidence of high level Kremlin backed tampering in the election, so we can show the world, show Putin, and wipe that smug grin off his face? If there was Americans helping, then Robert Mueller will show us that as well.

Or will he?

We can all await his report and we will know what actual evidence there is. Either he finds tangible evidence or he doesn't. Either way we can put some closure on it. The great thing is once Mueller enlightens us with what he uncovered in his exhaustive investigation...  we will no longer have to rely on the "trust us" answers from people like James Clapper.

Won't that be nice?

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes it will be, in the End the #sad leftist will not take down this President.

Beating the liberals like obimbo/Hillary/schumer/polosi again

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You should apply for the job in the West Wing to be the poor soul, that has to excuse every misinformed, impulsively narcissistic President.

wphamilton said...

Or it could be that Trump DOES have solid evidence but since he's in it up to his eyeballs he can neither confront Putin over it nor access all of the evidence known to our intelligence services.

Or, he has been made aware of the evidence and the deductions, but Trump does not have the mental capacity to understand it. I'm personally leaning towards that theory.

The least likely of all theories it that Trump is right, Putin is honest and virtuous, and our intelligence services are wrong. Considering that the man is stupid, I'd that's a distant long shot.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

One at a time my friend.

You: Most IT security experts disagreed that any inference could be made from that information, mush less that it implicates Putin or the Kremlin. Resources have determined that Russian interests spent money on social media advertising. They have not shown us that any of this makes it to the Kremlin.

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Russia is a dictatorship. I rather doubt that Putin was not involved in the attract on the credibility of our election system. The Russians have been doing this with varied results. To me, you have been blinded to the truth by your desire to be right despite evidence that is based a faulty belief.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You: But... thank god:

we have a crack pot special investigator on the job. Robert Mueller is investigating the Russian hacking and whether or not there were Americans colluding on the hacking. He is said to have a team of investigators at his disposals along with 17 of the best investigative prosecutors in the land at his disposal. Estimates that thousands of hours and millions of dollars have been spent investigating the Russian involvement.

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"Crack Pot" implies that the prosecutor is motivated by reasons other than a desire to have a professional, truth seeking investigation. He is running a tight ship. No matter what he comes out with, unless it's #impeachment we won't have to suffer lies and ignorant comments on this from the President

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This confirmed my opinion that why Putin wanted Trump to be our President. He's ignorant, unwilling to listen to the professional and experienced people who know what works.

C.H. Truth said...

Or it could be that Trump DOES have solid evidence but since he's in it up to his eyeballs he can neither confront Putin over it nor access all of the evidence known to our intelligence service

It "could" be that he does. But when the FBI director who was basically in charge of this investigation suggests that their conclusions were based more on deductions than evidence... it's unlikely.

It's more likely that this is a combination of "best guess" along with some left leaning partisanship within the deep state that wants people to believe that it was the Russians, rather than some insider who provided the emails to Wikileaks.



But at the very least... when you have as many people as Mueller does working on this whole Russian meddling investigation... that if there is solid evidence that proves as much, Mueller will find it.

Would you agree, WP? That Mueller will find it?

wphamilton said...

" their conclusions were based more on deductions than evidence" - I think your are misinterpreting what this means, and how significant it is. ALL deductions are based on evidence. A person may be directly implicated by the evidence (which is itself a deduction), or he may be implicated by deduction based on evidence. Assuming correct logic, one is no less valid or compelling than is the other.

Anonymous said...

Little Lilly white Lady lynn HB.

Your admission that you failed to qualify for the US ARMED services speaks only and solely to the loser you are.

IS that clear enuff for ya dumb weak minded sissy.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Stupidity on Display.

Little Lilly white Lady lynn HB.

Your admission that you failed to qualify for the US ARMED services speaks only and solely to the loser you are.

IS that clear enuff for ya dumb weak minded sissy.

commie said...

So you expect "everyone" to have blind faith in what they are told?

CH you are the premier fool who has the above headlined problem.......Very sad that you have turned on your country and buy the POTUS calling major members of his administration political hacks and using CH truth blogger name calling Short and Fat as diplomacy. Sad......

Anonymous said...

HB, like I said you are not the only one that had men/women serve in the US Armed Forces, yet you act as IF you did, you didn't.

You never did, you failed, personally I was not at all surprised when you self admitted that you physical failure is why the US Military rejected you.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
This confirmed my opinion that why Putin wanted Trump to be our President. He's ignorant, unwilling to listen to the professional and experienced people who know what works.
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which explains why trump has given his military leaders free reign to operate exactly how they see fit, rather than micro-managing every facet of every operation from the white house like 0linsky insisted upon doing.

Anonymous said...

US OIL and US COAL Export have been taking the world stage again, President Trump has directed that the US no longer talk about it, he has acted putting the single most important person on the JOB, the American Worker.

Some here want to keep the worker down, some don't want his.her skills put back to work, I do.

So when you see a post from the weak minded liberal that we in the US 'Can't", remember "Yes WE Can".

Commonsense said...

Two stories on the subject are a must read:

1. The FBI investigation into the Trump campaign was indeed triggered by the dossier fed by the Clinton campaign's Russian agent.
Byron York: Did dossier trigger the Trump-Russia probe?

2. Mullier and the FBI's scorch earth policy is very diffrent than the Clinton e-mail probe leading to charges of a political witch hunt.
The Trump Collusion Case Is Not Getting the Clinton Emails Treatment

Most disturbing is the courts not respecting attorney/client privilege.

commie said...

into the Trump campaign was indeed triggered by the dossier fed by the Clinton campaign's Russian agent.

That is indeed byron's opinion.....

Most disturbing is the courts not respecting attorney/client privilege.

Must be obama's fault.....

Anonymous said...

Most disturbing is the courts not respecting attorney/client privilege."

You want some secrets that hurt Obama/Hillary out of the public light?

Anonymous said...

"Crack Pot" implies that the prosecutor is motivated by reasons other than a desire to have a professional, truth seeking investigation.
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well alky, considering the fact that mueller's team is comprised exclusively of clinton hacks, that's the easiest and most accurate conclusion to draw.

commie said...

Rat hole the bigot postulated that.....

well alky, considering the fact that mueller's team is comprised exclusively of clinton hacks

Gee, another idiot claiming anyone against trump is a hack shows how deep his brain has been eaten by bias and party and hates america.....WOW!!! It is getting worse by the day....are you short and fat also?????

Commonsense said...

I think the fact that these prosecutors on Mueller's team were big donors to the Hillary Clinton campaign has something to do with it.

Anonymous said...

poor stupid broken liberals , funny to watch.

Anonymous said...

The Veterans Honor CHT Tread.

not one liberal stopped in to pay a second of respect.



"Blogger KD said...
CHT, you found a subject that scared the "yell helplessly at the sky" liberal.

November 11, 2017 at 3:34 PM"



HB Physical unfit to serve.

Anonymous said...

Jobs to coal states, those that Hillary Lost because she promised to make those good hard working people JOBLESS.

"Highlights for second quarter 2017:
•U.S. coal production during second quarter 2017 totaled 187.1,,,, 16.6% higher than second quarter 2016. Production in the Western Region, which represented about 53.1% of total U.S. coal production in second quarter 2017, totaled about 99.4 million short tons (19.7% higher than second quarter 2016).


Exports of US Coal 2016 1 st quarter ---- 14.2 million tons
Trump Takes over, on the promise to sell more coal, produce more wealth and jobs.

Export of US Coal 2017 first quarter ++++++ 22.3 Million Tons.

Helping our trade imbalance and putting money in the hands of the workers and the risk takers.


cowardly king obama said...


What should bother everyone is that Mueller impaneled his grand jury in Washington DC, which is 96 % Democrats. That certainly departs from any hint of being fair, especially with how partisan democrats have become. I doubt there is any less fair pool anywhere in America, and possibly the world...

And with the composition of his team it very easily can be described as a witch hunt. Maybe a grand jury needs to be impaneled in Utah with an all Republican team to investigate the Obama White House. I suspect the press would have a different reaction than what they have on the current proceedings...

commie said...

The goat molester postulates incorrectly that coal is ....
Helping our trade imbalance and putting money in the hands of the workers and the risk takers.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Coal is still shedding jobs faster than you losing hair......There is no wealth for workers in coal who produce more coal with less labor than ever before....The only ones getting rich are the lease holders of the mine and those receiving royalties from mining....Nice try, but your bullshit is once again shown to all....LOLOL at the

Anonymous said...




in other news, it looks like we have another 'alky snackbar' episode; this time at the mall of america.

at some point we need to have a national conversation about getting these amish under control.




commie said...

Sure with coal running from 12 bucks to 50 bucks a ton.....14 million tons does squat for the trade deficit.....but, it makes you and trump feel manly....LOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

Ok, nasty gurl odopie. Hate progress and jobs .

Anonymous said...

Trump approval up to 46 %.

Commonsense said...

If Democrats didn't have shit for brains they would have no brains at all.

Since their tradition Jefferson-Jackson dinner was named after slave owners (forget the fact they had a prominent role in founding the country) the politically correct Democrats of New Hampshire decided to rename their dinner the Kennedy-Clinton dinner after the two most prominent sexual predators in the Democrat party.

You can't make this shit up.

Commonsense said...

postulates incorrectly that coal is ....
Helping our trade imbalance and putting money in the hands of the workers and the risk takers.


You mean we're not exporting coal? News to me.

Anonymous said...




LOL.



commie said...

MENSTRAL THE IDIOT PROVES ONCE AGAIN CAN'T READ!!!!!

You mean we're not exporting coal? News to me.


Your words not mine......LOLOLOL

Commonsense said...
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Commonsense said...

Blogger Commonsense said...
It's kind of a binary condition. Either we are exporting coal so it's helping the trade imbalance or we are not.

Or you're just into to your own weird little fantasy that you're some kind of intellectual giant.

While everyone else knows your just some pathetic low energy troll.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Thus is a highly detailed story about Moore's fascination with teen age girls.

The hypocrisy of the regular idiots is simply amazing. They continue day after day to accuse James of being a pedophile, yet not ONE of you believe the increasingly documented story on Moore.

I posted the story several time to see if just one of you would actually read about the pedophile who is running for a seat in the Senate. Every single one of you put party before principles.

This link will take you to a story, if you hypocritical Republicans actually read it, you just might realize that he's not qualified by any measure. But unfortunately, not one of you will read it.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/locals-were-troubled-by-roy-moores-interactions-with-teen-girls-at-the-gadsden-mall/amp

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I have flat feet. That's why I failed the physical examination.