Saturday, December 9, 2017

Fake Fake News?

Forgery is the process of making, adapting, or imitating objects, statistics, or documents with the intent to deceive for the sake of altering the public perception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgery

So likely in retaliation for the actual fake news peddled by ABC, CNN, and Reuters over the past few days, the left has determined that a Fox News headline suggesting Beverly Young's confession regarding the yearbook message amounts to admission of "forgery" should be considered "fake news". 

Now, what the story stated was entirely accurate. After leading and leaving everyone to believe that Roy Moore wrote every portion of the yearbook message, Young came out and admitted that the last portion (that suggested that the signing of the yearbook took place in the proximity of where she claims she was assaulted) was actually added by her.

Now this is no small issue. There were two major concepts that Young and Allred were attempting to establish. First, that Roy Moore and Beverly Young did know each other. Second, that Roy Moore frequented the diner that Young claims to have worked for. The reason it was important to show that Moore frequented the diner, is because it was at the diner that Moore supposedly asked to drive her home, and then sexually assaulted her. If Moore never actually came to the diner, then he obviously never raped her.

Now the fact that he didn't write the date and place in the yearbook, doesn't prove anything about whether or not Moore frequented the diner.  But the confession that Young wrote it, and attempted (for at least a period of time) to pass it off as the writing of Roy Moore is not a minor issue. Under the strictest definitions of the word... writing, drawing, or otherwise scribbling something and attributing that as the work of someone else is actually considered forgery.

There is no other meaningful definition.

The fact that she later rescinded that implication, and admitted it was her writing does not change the meaning of what she "had" been doing, anymore than someone who forged a signature on a legal document, and later confesses that it was his/her signature would no longer be considered to have forged the signature.

So the only questions really are:

Was Beverly Young and her attorney dishonest about the yearbook message? Did they attempt to pass off the date and place as his writing? Did they do so to make people draw a picture in their head of a 32 year old Moore hanging out at the Diner flirting with the 16 year old waitress, so that people could more easily imagine him driving her around back and attempting to force oral sex on her?

If you believe the answers to those questions are "yes" (which certainly the facts sort of suggest) then there is nothing "fake" about using the term "forgery". In fact, unless you believe Young was actually being honest this whole time, the idea of playing it down with gentle semantics to hide that dishonesty...  is more "fake" than calling it for what it is.


124 comments:

James said...

Go to politicalwire.com and watch the video on why Alabamans are still going to vote for Roy Moore.

James said...

Former Fox Anchor Says Trump Tried to Kiss Her

Juliet Huddy, a former Fox & Friends Weekend anchor, told a radio show that Donald Trump once tried to kiss her on the lips unexpectedly after a business lunch.
“As Trump said goodbye to her in the elevator, in the presence of his security guard, he leaned in and tried to kiss her on the lips.”

Said Huddy: “I was surprised that he went for the lips.”
A few years later, Trump appeared on her syndicated show and off-air, to a studio audience Trump laughed about the pass in the elevator: “I tried hitting on her but she blew me off.”
__________________

Well, at least he didn't try to grab her by the _____.

I'm a pedophile said...

Signed,

Rev Jim Boswell pedophile
Normal, Illinois

James said...

Inside Trump’s Battle for Self-Preservation

New York Times: “For other presidents, every day is a test of how to lead a country, not just a faction, balancing competing interests. For Mr. Trump, every day is an hour-by-hour battle for self-preservation. He still relitigates last year’s election, convinced that the investigation by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, into Russia’s interference is a plot to delegitimize him. Color-coded maps highlighting the counties he won were hung on the White House walls.

“Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals. People close to him estimate that Mr. Trump spends at least four hours a day, and sometimes as much as twice that, in front of a television, sometimes with the volume muted, marinating in the no-holds-barred wars of cable news and eager to fire back.”
____________________-

Nero fiddled.
Trump watches TV.

James said...

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION:

My name is James Boswell and I am an ordained pastor in good standing with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in the region of Illinois and Wisconsin. Years ago I began participating in a political blog known as The Coldheartedtruth (coldheartedtruth.blogspot.com), a blog hosted by S. Scott Johnson of Minneapolis, Minnesota. I soon learned that it was a vicious blog where bad language, personal attacks, and outright racism could be found daily.

The blog host said that he discouraged those things, and whenever he did ask for greater civility with less obscenity, name calling, and personal attacks, it did get some results, but not for long. Unfortunately, he never continued making such requests, and even allowed one blogger to call our former president "a black monkey" and his wife, our First Lady, "a cheap Chicago whore," without reproaching him at all.

Because I occasionally quoted from religious articles I publish in a local newspaper, one blogger was able to discover my true identity and the church I was then serving and she put this information on the blog, repeatedly. The host should not have allowed this, but he did not intervene.

This woman hates me because I have stated that my own position regarding abortion is similar to that of the United Methodist Church’s, a position which she considers to be reprehensible. For this reason she began blatantly lying about me, stating that I had been fired by my (then) church. The truth, which I can prove by means of regional records, is that I have never in over fifty years of ministry been fired by any church which I have ever served, including the one I am serving now.

More recently one of the bloggers has begun referring to me as a pedophile, linking that slander to my real name and the name of the town where I live, thus making my address and phone number easily attainable.

As an ordained pastor, I am subject to frequent background checks which make clear that my record with regard to that accusation is totally clean: I have never, ever been accused by anyone of abusing any child.

I have asked the host of the blog to delete those slanderous, libelous references to me, slanders which several other bloggers have also made. He refuses to do so.

Now, I am not interested in making this a test case, for one simple reason. We all know that if a pastor is officially linked to pedophilia, everyone tends to assume that he/she is guilty. I myself tend to think like that whenever a pastor or priest is so charged, for there is usually a victim who is making the charge.

In my case, however, there is no victim, no victim at all, for I have never been accused by any child or parent, grandparent, or child’s relative of having committed any kind of child abuse. Again, my record is clean.

No one who reads the blog believes that accusation in the least, for if they did, they would feel obligated to report me to the authorities and to my church’s regional leadership. They have done neither because they know the charge is spurious, nothing more than a hateful epithet hurled at me.

But let us say that someone did take the charge seriously and it should somehow lead to career or employment difficulties for me. Would the blog host then be legally responsible?

Sincerely, Rev. Jim Boswell, Normal, IL

commie said...

I've read a lot your ur Bull Shit CH, but this takes the prize....Like your righteous indignation of the fake news story about attending an election party to the hyperbolic forgery BS perpetrated by the fake news network, your logic is at best stupid and rational does nothing but make you feel better which is all you seem to post now. Moore is an asshole, all the women are liars, just like the trump bevy of beauties. My guess moore will win and the stigma of pedophilia will affect the party for a long time to come. Until you guys come out of your coma and see what a crooked group is in charge, nothing will change and the world will pass us by. Sad for such an intellectual giant like you, ch.....

Rev Jim Boswell said...

I'm a pedophile.

I touch children.

I wear a robe to hide my hardon.

Signed,

Rev James Boswell pedophile
Normal, Illinois

James said...

Who Will Actually Vote in Alabama?

A new SurveyUSA poll finds that “minor differences in the methods used to model or select the likely electorate produce wildly varying estimates in Alabama. Data collected over the past week, with different models applied, show everything between an 8 eight percentage point margin favoring Jones and a 9 percentage point margin favoring Moore.

“The same survey data also reveal the underlying tensions behind the volatile results: Alabama Democrats are angry and energized, while a significant but critical minority of Republicans are conflicted between a nominee they dislike and a President they support.”
“Jones leads by wide margins when we simply ask voters if they plan to vote… An alternative, which favors Moore, defines likely voters as those with a self-reported history of voting in lower turnout elections.”

Rev Jim Boswell said...

I'm a pedophile.

I touch children.

I wear a robe to hide my hardon.

Signed,

Rev James Boswell pedophile
Normal, Illinois

Indy Voter said...

Over the years I've talked with a number of people that have told me they had never voted because they were worried they would vote for the wrong person. I've told each of them that it can happen, but the beauty of our system is that if that does happen in 2, 4, or 6 years he or she will get a chance to vote for someone else. Those that I've kept in touch with over the years since those conversations have all become regular voters.

I bring that up, because the encouragement that there will be another election in 2, 4, or 6 years is very much worth thinking about in the Alabama race (I believe it will actually be 3 years). Is Moore the right person to represent you in the Senate if you're a conservative? Why not take a chance on Jones, who is not morally corrupt? If he turns out to be unacceptable, vote him out in 3 years (hopefully Moore would not be the alternative).

I lived in Massachusetts for 20 years, and during that period Ted Kennedy was up for reelection four times. I always voted against him, more because I found Kennedy reprehensible as a person than because I disagreed with his politics. When his GOP opponent was also reprehensible, I voted for the third party candidate. For similar reasons I voted against Bill Clinton twice. Kennedy and Clinton were both effective in their jobs, but I am still very happy I never voted for either of them. Moore is someone I felt that way about as well, long before it became known he preyed on young teen girls.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Inside Trump’s Hour-by-Hour Battle for Self-Preservation
By MAGGIE HABERMAN, GLENN THRUSH and PETER BAKER
December 9, 2017
President Trump during a news conference in the Rose Garden last month.
President Trump during a news conference in the Rose Garden last month. Doug Mills/The New York Times
WASHINGTON — Around 5:30 each morning, President Trump wakes and tunes into the television in the White House’s master bedroom. He flips to CNN for news, moves to “Fox & Friends” for comfort and messaging ideas, and sometimes watches MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” because, friends suspect, it fires him up for the day.

Energized, infuriated — often a gumbo of both — Mr. Trump grabs his iPhone. Sometimes he tweets while propped on his pillow, according to aides. Other times he tweets from the den next door, watching another television. Less frequently, he makes his way up the hall to the ornate Treaty Room, sometimes dressed for the day, sometimes still in bedclothes, where he begins his official and unofficial calls.

As he ends his first year in office, Mr. Trump is redefining what it means to be president. He sees the highest office in the land much as he did the night of his stunning victory over Hillary Clinton — as a prize he must fight to protect every waking moment, and Twitter is his Excalibur. Despite all his bluster, he views himself less as a titan dominating the world stage than a maligned outsider engaged in a struggle to be taken seriously, according to interviews with 60 advisers, associates, friends and members of Congress.

For other presidents, every day is a test of how to lead a country, not just a faction, balancing competing interests. For Mr. Trump, every day is an hour-by-hour battle for self-preservation. He still relitigates last year’s election, convinced that the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, into Russia’s interference is a plot to delegitimize him. Color-coded maps highlighting the counties he won were hung on the White House walls.

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Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals. People close to him estimate that Mr. Trump spends at least four hours a day, and sometimes as much as twice that, in front of a television, sometimes with the volume muted, marinating in the no-holds-barred wars of cable news and eager to fire back.

“He feels like there’s an effort to undermine his election and that collusion allegations are unfounded,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina who has spent more time with the president than most lawmakers. “He believes passionately that the liberal left and the media are out to destroy him. The way he got here is fighting back and counterpunching.

Anonymous said...

What a group of fence sitters you associate with, how long does it take your group to decide where to go for lunch?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

problem he’s going to face,” Mr. Graham added, “is there’s a difference between running for the office and being president. You’ve got to find that sweet spot between being a fighter and being president.”

Bracing and refreshing to his alienated-from-the-system political base, Mr. Trump’s uninhibited approach seems erratic to many veterans of both parties in the capital and beyond. Some politicians and pundits lament the instability and, even without medical degrees, feel no compunction about publicly diagnosing various mental maladies.

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His approach got him to the White House, Mr. Trump reasons, so it must be the right one. He is more unpopular than any of his modern predecessors at this point in his tenure — just 32 percent approved of his performance in the latest Pew Research Center poll — yet he dominates the landscape like no other.

After months of legislative failures, Mr. Trump is on the verge of finally prevailing in his efforts to cut taxes and reverse part of his predecessor’s health care program. While much of what he has promised remains undone, he has made significant progress in his goal of rolling back business and environmental regulations. The growing economy he inherited continues to improve, and stock markets have soared to record heights. His partial travel ban on mainly Muslim countries has finally taken effect after multiple court fights.

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Anonymous said...

President jv a note, notice that no one talks about "Saved" Jobs, that all the ones we count now are actual "Shove" (metaphorically) in hand jobs.

Loretta said...

"Moore is someone I felt that way about as well, long before it became known he preyed on young teen girls."

I wouldn't vote for him.

Anonymous said...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html

INSIDE TRUMP’S
HOUR-BY-HOUR BATTLE
FOR SELF-PRESERVATION

With Twitter as his Excalibur, the president takes on his
doubters, powered by long spells of cable news and a
dozen Diet Cokes. But if Mr. Trump has yet to bend the
presidency to his will, he is at least wrestling it to a draw.

By MAGGIE HABERMAN, GLENN THRUSH and PETER BAKER DEC. 9, 2017



oooohhhh, spooky alky, spooky. hour by hour, minute by minute.

and written by the three biggest hacks on their staff.

and wasn't thrush sidelined for being a sexual predator?


Anonymous said...

I wouldn't vote for him. " Ette


Nor would I , I have predicted from the jump that he loses.

James said...

No Good Outcomes for Republicans In Alabama

Dan Balz: “For Republicans, there likely can be no truly good outcome. If Moore wins, the party will have preserved the seat but will be saddled with a new senator under a cloud of allegations, including assaulting a teenager many years ago as well as a pattern of pursuing teenagers half his age when he was in his 30s. If he wins and is sworn in, he probably will face an ethics investigation that will keep the controversy alive until his fate is resolved and perhaps much longer than that. For the Republicans, it’s a hot mess.

“If Moore loses, the GOP would be spared his presence in the Senate. But the result will have inflamed the anti-establishment forces led by former White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, deepening antagonisms that continue to roil the party… Additionally, a Jones victory would put the Republican majority at greater risk in 2018.”

James said...

Harassment Often Accompanies Access for Lobbyists

Vanessa Alarid told the New York Times about working as a lobbyist in New Mexico:

“You can have my vote if you have sex with me,” Ms. Alarid recalled the lawmaker saying, although he used cruder language for sexual intercourse. He told Ms. Alarid she had the same first name as his wife, so he would not get confused if he called out in bed. Then he kissed Ms. Alarid on the lips, she said.

Shocked, Ms. Alarid, who was 32 at the time, pushed him away. Only after he was gone did she let the tears flow.
When her bill came up on the floor of the New Mexico House of Representatives the next day, March 20, 2009, it failed by a single vote, including a “No” by the lawmaker, Rep. Thomas Garcia (D).

As Ms. Alarid watched from the House gallery, she said, Mr. Garcia blew her a kiss and shrugged his shoulders with arms spread.
_________________________

She should have got herself a walking stick, walked down onto the floor, and "caned" him.

Such harassment is PERVASIVE. Read the whole article.

James said...

No good outcome for Rev Jim Boswell, the pedophile in Normal, Illinois.

James said...


Obama: Protect Democracy or Risk Following Path of Nazi Germany

(CHICAGO) — Former President Barack Obama says Americans must be vigilant in their defense of democracy or risk following the path of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

At a speech earlier this week, the former president told the Economic Club of Chicago that “things can fall apart fairly quickly” if Americans don’t “tend to this garden of democracy.”

During the speech Tuesday, Obama pointed to Hitler’s rise to power in Germany as he implored the audience to “pay attention … and vote.”

Obama also defended the media. He said the press “often drove me nuts” but that he understood that a free press was vital to democracy.
_________________________

If Hitler were in the White House today,
he'd be yelling "FAKE NEWS!" all the time.

wphamilton said...

Adding the note (which btw I suggested earlier was the case and you didn't have this objection) is not forgery. She did not forge his signature. It was not too bright, since adding anything diminishes her credibility, but it objectively has zero bearing on whether he signed her yearbook or not.

Anonymous said...

Why is his signing important?

Anonymous said...

Hi Jane Godwin.

I saw hillary was paid more to write what happened then profit made from book sales.

Someone else's books sales paid her.

Anonymous said...

Army vs Navy No one Kneeled

C.H. Truth said...

WP...

A signature is only one type of forgery. You can forge a painting for instance. You could forge a doctor's note. Forge any number of things.

What makes something a forgery (by definition) is claiming it is something it is not. So if Beverly Young wrote part of the yearbook message and tried to make the case that it was someone else's writing (in this case Roy Moore's)... by definition it's a forgery.

It may not be a criminal act of forgery. But that doesn't mean that the word is not correct characteristic of what was done.

James said...

if it's his signature, it's his signature.

C.H. Truth said...

Well James...

You of all people might understand that someone writing something, while pretending to be someone else is both dishonest and cowardly.

Certainly we know today that the last portion of the yearbook message was not written by Roy Moore. But yet it was originally claimed to be (by both Young and her attorney).

James said...

Did she forge his name?

James said...

AP fact checks the Liar-in-Chief:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ap-fact-check-trump-off-on-black-homeownership-trade/ar-BBGrbrh?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

C.H. Truth said...

Did she forge his name?

Nobody claimed she forged his name, James.

The forgery was in pretending something she wrote was something he wrote.

It has absolutely zero to do with a "signature".

James said...

If Hitler were in the White House today,
he'd be yelling "FAKE NEWS!" all the time.
__________________

He WAS in the WH, for eight long years.

Obama hates Jews, too.

Anyone quoting Jeremy Ben-Ami hates Jews.

Anonymous said...

Jane, odd that you, and you alone "knows" what a mass murderer thinks and would say.

James said...

Bullshit. I quote Ben-Ami and I love Jews.

James said...

No, the only important thing is, what is Roy Moore's signature doing in the yearbook of a teenager who says he assaulted her at age 16 in a locked car, whereas he says:

"I never did what she said I did," Moore told reporters. "I don't even know the woman. I don't know anything about her."

But keep on defending the indefensible.
It's amusing.

Myballs said...

Go back over the decades at how ex-presidents, from both parties, refrained from sticking their noses into their successors business. But typically obama has to be the most classless of them all.

C.H. Truth said...

Well James...

Perhaps they should have turned over the yearbook to a Third Party signature analyst as suggested and asked for by the Moore camp.

Then there wouldn't be any question as to who is telling the truth.

At this point, nobody knows for sure... and it is starting to appear that the people from Alabama are going to give Moore the benefit of the doubt. A benefit specifically stemming from the behavior of Young and her Attorney.

Anonymous said...

Janr, black home ownership is higher then a year ago.

How is it you see that as a bad thing.

Anonymous said...

Obama wanted America to continue to fail, to do that Hillary HAD to Win.

She failed, so erasing pen-boy is happening.

commie said...

Third Party signature analyst as suggested and asked for by the Moore camp.

Fuck the Moore camp....as your inner voice keeps yelling....ALL women who accuse R's of sexual impropriety are liars. You really are funny CH and when does a fact ever come into play against your omnipotent opinion....LOL

commie said...

The forgery was in pretending something she wrote was something he wrote

Of course it is CH especially for those defending a pedophile since you got nothing else. Hard to imagine a year book qualifies as a document or art work. LOL

an act of forging; especially : the crime of falsely and fraudulently making or altering a document (such as a check)

Anonymous said...

Notice that the Four Liberal Stooges of CHT project that the "know" what other people are thinking.

Commonsense said...

Third Party signature analyst as suggested and asked for by the Moore camp.

Fuck the Moore camp..


God forbid we should find out the truth of the matter.

Anonymous said...

The problem for the Liberal is they thought this was the one they could Win. Jones was the ONE, he had these allegations.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump has performed self-destruction.
It's not the First Amendment. You are incapable of admitting that he is at fault, not like your angry rant.

Donald Trump campaigned on a pledge to make America great again. As president he is doing the opposite: He is making America smaller than at any time in the past 100 years.


By pulling the U.S. out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, Mr. Trump has ceded economic leadership in Asia and beyond to China, whose president touts the Chinese model to other countries that want the blessings of prosperity without the inconveniences of liberty. To back up this offer, China is investing huge sums in its “One Belt, One Road” plan and in the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.

These moves are having the intended effect. Myanmar, which had long been dominated by anti-Chinese sentiment, is now accepting China’s blandishments. The country’s leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, went to Beijing last week for a conference hosted by the Communist Party.

Vietnam, which has looked to the U.S. as a counterweight against its historical enemy to the north, now wonders whether it must accept Beijing’s economic leadership and yield to its claims in the South China Sea. Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has made noises about abandoning his country’s alliance with the U.S. in favor of China. Even Australia, one of our closest allies, is openly debating how to deal with American decline.

In the Middle East, the Trump administration is busy giving ground to Russia. Vladimir Putin is conducting Syrian peace talks while America languishes on the sidelines. Turkey, a member of NATO since 1952, is endorsing the Kremlin’s leading role. Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan recently met with Mr. Putin and Iran’s Hassan Rouhani to support negotiations on the future structure of the Syrian government and state.


Egypt was another long-term linchpin of American diplomacy, and Mr. Trump has lavished praise on its autocratic leader. Yet Cairo has just struck a deal allowing the largest Russian military presence on its soil and in its airspace since 1973. The U.S. doesn’t even have an ambassador in Egypt, let alone a coherent policy to deal with this pivotal country.

Even in Europe, America has been diminished. Mr. Trump’s early ambivalence toward NATO, which gave way to a grudging expression of support, have left a residue of doubt about the credibility of American guarantees. He has driven a wedge between the U.S. and Germany, long our closest ally on the Continent. The “special relationship” with the United Kingdom may not survive his repeated gaffes, capped by his impulsive decision to retweet discredited anti-Muslim videos from a British fringe group.

~~~~~~~>~

You are as predictable as a clock. Your obsession with defending Trump and the Fake News is as impulsive Tweets as the worst President in history. But you aren't limited to 240 characters. The evidence that demonstrates that he has helped by the Russians. There may not have been collusion, but there is evidence that his campaign did have contact and his son did ask for"dirt" on Clinton.

If you put 10% of your time to get a 500 word rant on his lies and sexual harassment, you would restore your credibility.

Even worse is that he's endorsing an (alleged) pedophile.

Anonymous said...

Real news, Alcee Hastings,DEMOCRAT.
U S TREASURY paid out $220,000 to settle his sexual misconduct issues while serving in the US House.

Wtf, make him and all other pay it back.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-world-has-taken-trumps-measure-1512519571?nan_pid=1863246979&mg=prod/accounts-wsj

Anonymous said...

GO ARMY

MY BROTHER IN ARMS. BEAT NAVY

Anonymous said...

$220,000 for his boots calls, garnish his wages/retirement.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

He has no respect for anyone but himself.



In 1776, at the threshold of American independence, the Founding Fathers espoused a “decent respect to the opinions of mankind.” Today, citizens of countries around the world regard the U.S. as morally diminished under Mr. Trump’s leadership. He shows no signs of caring, and he probably doesn’t.

Anonymous said...

DEMOCRAT Alcee Hastings is a sitting member of the US House, how is that even possible. How is it he has not been drummed out the door?

Anonymous said...

I mean, really, the charges have been confirmed, his sexual perversions have to be punished. Kick his sick ass out.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

$1,200,000 For more than boots.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The statute of limitations let's him go.

Anonymous said...

His victim, a younger female staffer, that said she was groped. She also said asshole Alcee Hastings asked her "what color underwear" was she wearing.

Charges substantiated. $220,000 paid.

Anonymous said...

Winsome Packer is the Victims name. ALCEE HASTINGS. RESIGN. DO THE RIGHT THING.

Anonymous said...

Winsome Packer is the Victims name. ALCEE HASTINGS. RESIGN. DO THE RIGHT THING.

Anonymous said...

His victim, a younger female staffer, that said she was groped. She also said asshole Alcee Hastings asked her "what color underwear" was she wearing.

Charges substantiated. $220,000 paid.

Commonsense said...

I don't know what in the world they were thinking of by running a pro abortion leftist for the senate seat in Alabama.

You would think they would put up someone with at least a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

A prolife moderate Democrat would be up 20 points against Moore.

Commonsense said...

Lord leftist blog sites are rotting Roger's mind.

Get the popcorn.

commie said...

You would think they would put up someone with at least a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

LOL....your pedophile sexual predator seems to be your kind of republican who will represent all assholes like you....a dirt bag that you adore. Idiot.. amazing what you tolerate as righteous. LOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

Alcee Hastings,Democrat, US House of Representatives.

Confirmed .

Anonymous said...

Get this Alcee Hastings has a networth of, wit, wait for it...

-2.23 million USD.

commie said...

God forbid we should find out the truth of the matter.

Let them get a court order. See how simple menstral????? When has truth mattered for a republican?????

commie said...

-2.23 million USD.

Which proves what, you are a worthless piece of shit/?????

Anonymous said...

Democrat Alcee Hastings was once a United States District Judge. Hmm, impressive right?.

Nope, he was impeached and removed from office.

Anonymous said...

ALee Hastings, age 81, Democrat.

Was impeached and removed from the bench for Bribery.

wphamilton said...

The signature, Roy's name, is the only thing that's important. By proving that Moore had interacted with her personally at that time, it lends credence to her claims that he pursued, and initiated, a sexual encounter with her.

This whole hue and cry of "it's a forgery" has no other purpose than to deflect from the fact that Moore DID sign the yearbook, one more piece of evidence against him. Anyone engaging in that deflection is, logically, doing so for no other purpose.

In another thread I asked "Why?". Why do you still support him? It was a little disingenuous of me because I already know why. The same people who do that are also still strongly supportive of Trump, and for the same reason. It is, literally, irrelevant to them if the man has no moral compass, or is a hypocrite of the first order. Political gain for a perceived personal gain.

I'd welcome you to reap what you sow, because in the end there is no way that you'll realize any gain from supporting these people, but you're dragging down the rest of us with you.

Loretta said...

"Lord leftist blog sites are rotting Roger's mind.

Get the popcorn."

Pitiful, isn't he.

Anonymous said...

So a signature is now "proof" Moore is a cho-mo?.

Got ya.

Please never in anyway get near my beloved Criminal Justice System.

Anonymous said...

WP, then fourth liberal stooge of CHT.

I support Trump and will again. Mostly to keep you liberals in a white lather like on a hard ridden horse.

I do not support, nor defend , nor i I had a vote would I cast it for Moore.

Anonymous said...

So then radical decline of elected Democrats, is because of their radicalized obama legecy?

Surely that is not WP's point.

wphamilton said...

The point is that putting your trust into people who are only concerned with themselves, who time and again show themselves as hypocrites or liars, will never turn out the way you hope. When they prove that they have no integrity in their business dealings, in their religious trappings, then whatever they have promised you is meaningless. You will always lose, guaranteed.

Man up and set some standards. Even if you don't gain something, your tax cuts, more billions made by someone, whatever it is that floats your boat, you at least won't have lost your own integrity.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

My response source was from The Wall Street Journal senseless. Your addiction to the Gateway nutjob has melted your mind. You and the twit have lost it .

Loretta said...

Why?

"Friday night, the Supreme Court issued an Order staying a lower court ruling requiring the government to turn over thousands of documents related to the termination of DACA. The vote was 5 to 4, with Justice Breyer writing a 10-page dissent joined by Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Kagan."

https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/12/supreme-ct-blocks-order-that-trump-admin-turn-over-daca-legal-advice-docs/

Neil Gorsuch is ONE damn good reason to support Trump.

Appointing Federal judges who aren't liberal activists warms my heart and I don't give a damn that he acts like a union boss, or has a history with some groupies/whores.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You can't wait to send 400,000 Beaners, rapist and murderers across the border.

It will look like the Nazi's trains loaded with Jews to the concentration camps.

The Republican party already has a problem with the Hispanic vote. This will lock the Republican party of power for a generation. The GOP is shattering before our eyes.

But Trumpism and Alzheimer's disease will continue to keep you from seeing reality.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This looks familiar.....

FRIDAY WAS ONE of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, with countless pundits, commentators and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.

The spectacle began on Friday morning at 11:00 am EST, when the Most Trusted Name in News™ spent 12 straight minutes on air flamboyantly hyping an exclusive bombshell report that seemed to prove that WikiLeaks, last September, had secretly offered the Trump campaign, even Donald Trump himself, special access to the DNC emails before they were published on the internet. As CNN sees the world, this would prove collusion between the Trump family and WikiLeaks and, more importantly, between Trump and Russia, since the U.S. intelligence community regards WikiLeaks as an “arm of Russian intelligence,” and therefore, so does the U.S. media.

This entire revelation was based on an email which CNN strongly implied it had exclusively obtained and had in its possession. The email was sent by someone named “Michael J. Erickson” – someone nobody had heard of previously and whom CNN could not identify – to Donald Trump, Jr., offering a decryption key and access to DNC emails that WikiLeaks had “uploaded.” The email was a smoking gun, in CNN’s extremely excited mind, because it was dated September 4 – ten days before WikiLeaks began promoting access to those emails online – and thus proved that the Trump family was being offered special, unique access to the DNC archive: likely by WikiLeaks and the Kremlin.

It’s impossible to convey with words what a spectacularly devastating scoop CNN believed it had, so it’s necessary to watch it for yourself to see the tone of excitement, breathlessness and gravity the network conveyed as they clearly believed they were delivering a near-fatal blow to the Trump/Russia collusion story:


There was just one small problem with this story: it was fundamentally false, in the most embarrassing way possible. Hours after CNN broadcast its story – and then hyped it over and over and over – the Washington Post reported that CNN got the key fact of the story wrong.

The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 – which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published access to the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks – as everyone by then already knew – had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.

Loretta said...

Spam by the drunken creeper.

Commonsense said...

Roger's source.

The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened

But what it means most of all is that when media outlets are responsible for such grave and consequential errors as the spectacle we witnessed yesterday, they have to take responsibility for it by offering transparency and accountability. In this case, that can’t mean hiding behind PR and lawyer silence and waiting for this to just all blow away.

At minimum, these networks – CNN, MSNBC and CBS – have to either identify who purposely fed them this blatantly false information, or explain how it’s possible that “multiple sources” all got the same information wrong in innocence and good faith. Until they do that, their cries and protests the next time they’re attacked as “Fake News” should fall on deaf ears, since the real author of those attacks – the reason those attacks resonate – is themselves and their own conduct.


Does anybody think this is the first time it's happened. These "sources" have been playing a complacient media like a fiddle.

Commonsense said...

Why would we abandon Trump? He’s doing what he said he would do.

Among all of candidate Trump’s missteps and outrages, the one that was thought to most assuredly guarantee his demise was the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape and the ensuing allegations of numerous women claiming Trump sexually assaulted them. Those instances are the most frequently enumerated in the correspondence I receive suggesting the need for endorsement regret.

But apparently lost on many is that, in the 1990s, the left won the argument that these stories don’t matter, and that people’s private lives and attitudes, as sordid and problematic as they may be, do not determine their effectiveness as a public servant. So convincingly did President Bill Clinton’s defenders win that debate that even many on the right came to accept it, which is in part why Trump is immune on the topic and Roy Moore’s Senate candidacy remains viable in Alabama.

During the campaign, Trump famously boasted that he could shoot someone and not lose support. That is not literally true, although one could be forgiven for wondering about it. But the point he was making to the media was to quit wasting their time trying to discredit him with lurid details of his private life and times.

Even now, though, the left, along with “Never Trumpers” on the middle and right, keep waiting for Trump supporters to “wake up,” to realize their horrendous mistake, perhaps even rending their garments in an act of self-flagellation.

But the voters who coalesced around Trump understood that everyone’s closet has skeletons, a belief proved truer with each passing day. Through a lifetime of celebrity, laid bare in the media, Trump’s closet door has long stood wide open. No new revelations about his personal life were going to shock or shake his supporters.

v\The left’s sudden post-Clinton awakening on issues of boorish behavior and sexual harassment has been fascinating to watch. The recent claims against Democratic Party stalwarts such as Sen. Al Franken and Rep. John Conyers Jr. have had Democrats pushing for political death sentences in hopes of maintaining the moral high ground. There apparently is no need for courts, judges or juries, and evidence is optional, as long as a claim is determined to be credible by a panel of hastily assembled media pundits.

But in light of the recently exposed feet of clay of so many of Trump’s fiercest critics in Hollywood, Washington and the media, making examples of Franken and Conyers is a case of too little, too late. The hypocrisy has been exposed, the high ground surrendered. It turns out that the calls for Trump’s supporters to wake up were coming from a lot of people who were blissfully snoozing away.

commie said...

Poor donnie, still worried about size...whatta a asshole!!!!! I'm sure Scotty will comment... LOLOLOL

President Donald Trump called for the firing of Washington Post’s Dave Weigel for posting a picture of a half-empty arena and the caption “packed to the rafters” on his Twitter account on Friday night.

The tweet, which presumably was referencing Trump’s Pensacola, Florida rally, didn’t sit well with the commander-in-chief, who included pictures of the rally to prove it was indeed packed to the rafters. Oh, and he included the patented “fake news” label, of course.

The Romper room potus is adored by his sycophants.....LOL

Commonsense said...

It was a deliberately phoney photo. What was so hard to get?

commie said...

It was a deliberately phoney photo. What was so hard to get?

Whatever you say snowflake The fact remains you took the bait and defended the pussy grabber..,..LOL

Commonsense said...

Funny, it is you who looks like the idiot.

Maybe because you are just an idiot.

commie said...

https://www.snopes.com/was-trumps-pensacola-rally-packed-rafters/

As usual, copious amounts of bull shit on both sides...You would hope the POTUS would act a little more maturely, but he doesn't, he acts like the right wing children here. Sad

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...

You can't wait to send 400,000 Beaners, rapist and murderers across the border.

It will look like the Nazi's trains loaded with Jews to the concentration camps.
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not at all, drama queen. what awaited those jews was certain death.

what awaits the beaners is their homeland.

one must really hate jews a lot to post such a disgusting and false comparison.

you're a real piece of shit alky.


commie said...

Commonsense said...
Funny, it is you who looks like the idiot.

Maybe because you are just an idiot.

Another snappy retort from our snowflake dumb dumb...LOLOLOL

Commonsense said...

Thanks again for proving my point.

Commonsense said...

Roger's always been anti-semitic no big surprise there.

Seig Heil!!!

commie said...


Roger's always been anti-semitic no big surprise there.

Liar....the only point you constantly prove is your bigotry of reality...LOLOLOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You folks don't get it. This looks like the post here. I found it on Drudge. It's obviously looks like a rewrite of this story.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Our host looks like he . I'm not going to say the word....

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

This is obviously another departure from reality.


"Roger's always been anti-semitic no big surprise there.



Seig Heil!!!

Your accusations are below you.

Your political views are close to Fascism minus anti-Semitism.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Our host looks like he . I'm not going to say the word....
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looks like he...

pulled an "alky?"


no he didn't, alky.

only you and the pederast plagiarize around here.

Anonymous said...

WP, I expect nothing from President Trump.

Keep that clear.

I wanted him to beat Hillary, he did soundly.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Sorry folks. I'm going to the gym today with a trainer who has been brutal. LOL

You would not want to arm wrestle with the old man

Anonymous said...

Roger Godwins, Good Morning.

Anonymous said...



"sorry folks?"

heh.

still thinking that we give a shit, eh alky?

Anonymous said...

Roger explained to this blog that his networth is $2.3 million.

Yet, he told us they would have been bankrupt i they had to pay a $162,000 bill.

Anonymous said...

Cold morning. Have them wood furnace running wide upen, btu's by then millions heating my home. Looking out over their flat land of Kansas I see them older people we donated firewood to are doing their same.

Commonsense said...

Your accusations are below you.

If the shoe fits, you're the one who sided with the anti-semitic governments of Europe and the Middle East.

Anonymous said...

Jane, on another thread put down the blacks that have bought homes under Trump, leading to a moderate percent rise. Higher then under prez jv.

Why does more black home ownership devastate Jane?

HB, legal American Hispanics gain jobs lowering thier unemployment rate to historical lows.

Why does that crush your soul?

caliphate4vr said...

All 5" have melted, still cold

Looks like a beef pho day

Anonymous said...

CS, I heard this about the Sin of Pres. Trump on the Jewish-American Embassy issue
"Trump's sin is he buck the past TALK of other Presidents and actually DID IT.".

Anonymous said...

You got more snow then I have had all year. Bbbbrrrr

Loretta said...

"You would not want to arm wrestle with the old man"

No

One

Cares creeper.

wphamilton said...

Appointing Federal judges who aren't liberal activists

ANY Republican will do that. It's a given, a no-brainer, and you don't need Trump for that. ANY Republican would have beat Hillary as well. We need higher standards for national leaders than just this.

So he beat Hillary and appointed some judges. Good, well done and thanks Trump. All his other appointments are political, but OK the judges. But we also wanted to elect a President, and now that it's clear that Trump cannot handle it, doesn't have the capability even if he wanted to? It was a longshot that Trump would suddenly have an epiphany and depart from his old ways when finding himself in a position of great responsibility but unfortunately he didn't. Trump made a fortune by lying to investors, trashing the deal and running away with his part. Scamming people with his "University". We all knew this and hoped that President Trump would grow into his role. But he didn't, and what happened to your standards now?

A man, or a woman, with strength and integrity can accept when their favored leader has failed them, and isn't afraid of being called "fence sitter" or any other name by the foolish cheerleaders of Team Party. Set your standards and stand by them.

wphamilton said...

Does this FB photo link work? From the Georgia "snowstorm" 2017 Greenway after Snowstorm from my ride home yesterday. I've never seen the trees draped over the path like that, it was like that the whole way.

Anonymous said...

We need higher standards for national leaders than just this.
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agreed.

but since we had to go with the "cool" community organizer, complete with styrofoam greek columns that were as phony as he was, then i guess we've relinquished our right to bitch about who we elect from there on out.

it was a short ride from hopey-changey assclown to reality tv billionaire.

and as ed koch was fond of saying -

"the people have spoken and now they must be punished."



caliphate4vr said...

US Fiji in Capetown

I love Roku

commie said...

furnace running wide open, btu's by then millions heating my home

And polluting the air as badly as coal....Good for you, hope your flue has lots of tar in it....Always thought chimney fires were fun to watch especially in kansas....

wphamilton said...

but since we had to go with the "cool" community organizer, complete with styrofoam greek columns that were as phony as he was, then i guess we've relinquished our right to bitch about who we elect from there on out.

By my way of thinking, that gives us even more right to bitch about it. We tried one thing, you didn't like it, and now you deserve better. Right? We ALL deserve better.

Ask me when Trump's up for re-election and Franken is his Democratic opponent. To pick one at random. You sure as hell won't hear me saying "The last guy was so bad, I don't care what's wrong with this one."

commie said...

Anonymous wphamilton said...
Does this FB photo link work? From the Georgia "snowstorm" 2017 Greenway after Snowstorm f

Worked briefly....looked rather frosty!!! Got some pictures back from our neighbors in Blairsville....sure looked like a foot of snow on our deck!!! Glad to look at it, but last year got stuck in the house for 3 days after the 4" snow fall that refused to melt!!! Looks like it is melting quickly.

Anonymous said...

but last year got stuck in the house for 3 days after the 4" snow fall that refused to melt!!!
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what kind of a fucking retard gets stuck in their house for 3 days because of 4" of snow???

commie said...

What kind of a retarded asshole has to ask stupid questions about 4" of snow? You obviously need a new hobby if this is what you need to ask. LOL at you again..... Ask loretta's husband on how to he got to my house.....LOLOLOL

Anonymous said...

WP, your Facebook link, worked fine, 100 percent. Zero problems. Nice .

Anonymous said...

Hi oPie.

I know you. You that gal that talks about "being green". So here, try this question, put away the Tourette.

What percent of your yearly food consumption is purchased and what percent is grown by you?

ACLU said...

james we take your letter seriously and ask that you follow the board protocols until we respond back to you directly. We did notice a shitload of postings just in this thread copied from political_lire without any attribution or link. We remind you this is infringement, immoral and illegal.

While we do our investigation we are putting JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY in charge and ask you to follow his directives.

Also you need to stay away from all children and provide us with the size of your ankle which will assist us in the direction we think this will take.

Thank you JAMES'S FUCKING DADDY for your offer to assist which we have accepted wholeheartedly.

wphamilton said...

WP, your Facebook link, worked fine, 100 percent. Zero problems. Nice .

Thanks KD. I just thought that the ice-bowed trees were striking.

caliphate4vr said...

Why did it take me to be 55, before I had a mani and pedi?

Love Asians

Anonymous said...

Lol, you rock

Anonymous said...

Fantastic, ty for sharing.

Commonsense said...

what kind of a fucking retard gets stuck in their house for 3 days because of 4" of snow???

We're talking about fatty, a shovel is an alien artifact to him.

commie said...

We're talking about fatty, a shovel is an alien artifact to him.

The idiot again talks out of his ass......Ask loretta on how her husband got to my house!!!