Monday, December 11, 2017

How much better would the economy have to be...

before naysayers accepted that it's doing pretty damned good under Trump? 
Although President Donald Trump’s overall approval ratings have dropped to the lowest point of his presidency, he is getting significantly higher marks in one important area: his handling of the economy.
With the U.S. unemployment rate holding at a 17-year low, hiring strong and the stock market hitting regular records, Mr. Trump is getting stronger reviews from the public on the economy, with 42% approving and 37% disapproving, according to the most recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey, conducted in late October.

I can understand not liking what Trump is doing on social issues. I can understand not liking what Trump is doing on the international front. I can understand that some people just don't like Trump.

But exactly, are these 37% disapproving of?
  • The 3% plus growth? 
  • Nearly full employment? 
  • Manufacturing jobs coming back? 
  • Wage increases? 
  • Home values rising? 
  • Investment portfolios rising? 
My best guess is that some people simply don't like Trump to such a degree, that they simply cannot (and will never) accept that "anything" is going well, as long as he is President. 

96 comments:

commie said...

The 3% plus growth?
Nearly full employment?
Manufacturing jobs coming back?

Yep, trump can thank the previous administration for leaving a growing economy and job market that you and the sycophants can only attribute to trump....Yep, he did it all by himself..... Remember according to menstral, busch left obama an economy growing at .6% a year and jobs being shed at 500k a month.....Obama left with an economy growing at 3 times that rate and 80 plus months of job growth.....

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Wages got unexpectedly little increase in the last report. IMO, the fact that unions have been pretty much eliminated, wages are going to remain stagnant.

C.H. Truth said...

Tell me Opie...

If this is the expected "Obama economy"...

Then why did all of your liberal economists demand that the GOP and Administration were all collectively high on Quaaludes for suggesting 3% GDP growth for their budget projections?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The cumulative effect of the Obama economy policies provided the foundation of the economic growth you want to give Trump credit exclusive credit.

Look my friend, remember years ago, you said that the President can't be given mhch credit for economic growth. When a Democrat is President.

He inherited a growing economy and he hasn't fucked it up yet.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH must be on an opioid medications. His lose of rational analysis is obvious.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Oh oh.

Monday, several women who have accused President Donald Trump of sexual harassment and assault are coming together for the first time.

They will speak in New York at a press conference hosted by "Brave New Films," which released a documentary about the accusations in November.


President trump has denied all the allegations, accusing the women of lying.

But Sunday, the president's ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said they deserve to be heard.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger -

The question isn't how much credit you do or do not give the President. In this case, most economists believe that the massive overhaul of our Government regulations (basically slashing them with a machete) is the main driver of the increase in growth.

My question, Roger...

Is what exactly about the economic conditions today would make you want to "disapprove" of the President's efforts?

Can you provide us with a logical lucid response without grasping at personal "predictions" about how the economy is going to tumble down "in a landslide"?

Loretta said...

Spam by the drunkard.

He'll be putting this on every thread.

Creeper.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Let's see any proof that the machete had an immediate impact on the economy? You will say it's Trump chopping regulations provided the growth. You know that it takes time for changes to have an effect.

I'm giving both sides credit. You can't ever see that the President named Obama an ounce of credit for 80 months of job growth.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger

Providing credit to "both sides"...

Does not tell me what good reason there is to "disapprove" of Trump's economic policies.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I did that to drive Mrs. Alzheimer's disease crazy. It worked perfectly.

Loretta said...

You're a drunken creeper.

C.H. Truth said...

I did that to drive Mrs. Alzheimer's disease crazy. It worked perfectly.

So then you are okay that your saggy ass picture still sits atop of the legacy blog?

Since you seem to believe that trolling for reaction is a worthy cause?

Loretta said...

"Does not tell me what good reason there is to "disapprove" of Trump's economic policies."

It would require a basic knowledge of economics 101....

Myballs said...

So according to roger, all those part time and temp jobs obama created to make up his new normal low growth stagnant wage economy were really designed to not lift the economy after eight years until after he left office.

Yeah that is it. Not the probusiness policies from s president with 40 years experience creating jobs.

Whatta horse's ass

commie said...

If this is the expected "Obama economy"...

You can call it anything you want except trump didn't do shit.....LOL Nice try, again...

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I don't disapprove of most of them because they are working. But...a big one. A massive increase in the deficit, like the W tax cut, and the reductions of registration, specifically the banking and housing mortgages regulations did result in a recession.

Moore in a landslide!

I hope that works. 😎

commie said...

In this case, most economists believe

Whatever most means you your delusional world...I am sure you have a list of names on the tip of your tongue as well as a link....Will not hold my breath waiting, scotty....

commie said...

Ryan Sit,Newsweek 1 hour 33 minutes ago

The majority of Republican voters think elected officials accused of numerous sexual harassment and sexual assault claims—a dishonor role that includes the president—should resign, according to a recent poll.

The Quinnipiac University Poll found the 51 percent of Republicans and 63 percent of all polled said an elected official should step down if he or she "has been accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault by multiple people."

The poll didn't ask about Trump specifically, but the survey suggests that most adults across the country, across party-lines and across racial and ethnic makeup want President Donald Trump—who has been accused of sexual assault or sexual harassment by at least 16 women—to resign.

Except for the republicon apologists here....LOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Some of your comments are trolling for negative reactions when time after time you defend the President and ignore his obsessive and compulsive tweets. And the credible reports on his behavior. Four to five hours a day watching television. He also knew all of the things Flynn did, including his contacts with the Russian government intervention.

Loretta said...

"Since you seem to believe that trolling for reaction is a worthy cause?"

Yes, if he does it.

He's a dirty creeper, just trying to get my attention again.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Roger Amick said...
Some of your comments are trolling for negative reactions when time after time you defend the President and ignore his obsessive and compulsive tweets.
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who cares if he tweets alky?



"And the credible reports on his behavior. Four to five hours a day watching television."

only 4-5? it was originally reported as 8/day. dod the most busted name in news issue another correction?



"He also knew all of the things Flynn did, including his contacts with the Russian government intervention."

yup. all of which were legal and normal duties of a transition team.

did you catch MSDNC's ralphie strap-on "special report" on the golden pee-pee dossier the other night? it was epic. she even spelled the "r" in dossier backwards just like the russian's do, and everything.



Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH if I could post without rrb fat ass I would not troll to get the twit crazy. She's an imbecile but that's common here. Butt (sarcasm) It's blocked for two years.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

The changing world on sexual harassment may just put the President and the Republican party in a very difficult situation.

Smantha Holvey, who said last year that Donald Trump personally “inspected” her before the Miss USA pageant a decade earlier, said it was “heartbreaking” when the business mogul was elected President of the United States despite facing several allegations of sexual harassment.


But now, she says: “The environment’s different. Let’s try again.”

Holvey appeared Monday morning on Megyn Kelly Today with Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks, two other Trump accusers who are hoping a sea change in the national discussion around sexual misconduct will help their stories find a more receptive audience than last year. Leeds said that Trump groped her and kissed her without her consent on an airplane in the 1970s, while Crooks said that Trump kissed her on the mouth in 2005 while she was an employee at Trump Tower. At least 19 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

Trump has repeatedly denied all allegations. The White House told Megyn Kelly Today in a statement: “These false claims, totally disputed in most cases by eyewitness accounts, were addressed at length during last year’s campaign, and the American people voiced their judgement by delivering a decisive victory. The timing and absurdity of these false claims speaks volumes and the publicity tour that has begun only further confirms the political motives behind them.”

Anonymous said...

At least 19 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.
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a whole 19, eh?

geezus. you would think that out of that many you could produce at least one who's credible.

Anonymous said...




here's your link, alky:

http://time.com/5058369/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-accusers/


don't let the fact that me-again kelley has just about the worst ratings in the history of nbc morning tv. she really needs this story to have legs.



“Let’s try round two,” Holvey said.

and round 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and...

Commonsense said...

Poor Megyn is going back to the Trump well to save her career.

Don't think it's going to work.

Loretta said...

"CH if I could post without rrb fat ass I would not troll to get the twit crazy. She's an imbecile but that's common here. Butt (sarcasm) It's blocked for two years."

Start your own blog chicken shit.

Anonymous said...

Roger, obama counted a mythical item, a "saved job".

BLS When asked during the lost years what a "Saved Job is an how will it be traced and reported". AFTER the laugher stop, BLS said, we won't be.

President Trump Economy has no such faggot dust in the numbers.

Anonymous said...

Out of a pound I will now grant what HB wants.

Prez lost years = 1 ounce of Credit

President Trump = 15 ounce of Credit

Anonymous said...

She is like the paid for whore HB laid with

C.H. Truth said...

And the credible reports on his behavior. Four to five hours a day watching television.

And this would matter to you why exactly?

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Since this seems to be the host rant site today.

These are never going to show up on the blog here. It's "Fake News" from a self proclaimed analyst of politics.

https://youtu.be/dbHm2gh1ROo

https://youtu.be/KYymsEKO2V8

https://youtu.be/CRXI4xUHg4A

Anonymous said...



the alky considers himself the final arbiter on trump's fitness for office.

Anonymous said...




oh boy. the alky has a crush on me-again kelly.

Anonymous said...



It's "Fake News" from a self proclaimed analyst of politics.
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so start your own blog.

this one obviously causes you much distress and your constant criticisms of CH have become very boorish. you supposedly have a massive following both online and in your drunks r us pack of losers. in fact, you are the self-proclaimed greatest orator your little pack of misfits has ever seen.

c'mon alky. show us how it's done. put up a blog of such compelling political insights it puts this one to shame.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

And this would matter to you why exactly?

FYI, I have the NY Times, Wa PO and Wall St Journal subscriptions.

As to whey I have a problem with that? First, it's an obsession by the man who is supposed to be the President of the United States, who has to be informed about the nations he has to deal with and the leaders of each country. And the history of past policies, to understand his job as the President not a critic of the 24 hour news cycle.

Why don't you have a problem with the President of the United States of America spending most of his working days, except when playing golf at our expense?

Commonsense said...

And the credible reports on his behavior. Four to five hours a day watching television.

Kind of puts him in the middle of the pack.

Average American watches 5 hours of TV per day, report shows

So what exactly is your problem?

Loretta said...

"These are never going to show up on the blog here."

Start your own blog chicken shit.

CH doesn't answer to you or anyone else.

Anonymous said...

FYI, I have the NY Times, Wa PO and Wall St Journal subscriptions.
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that's nice.

both the times and the WaPo can be read for free with an incognito browser. so what you've done is show me you're too stupid to perform that fundamental task.


"As to whey I have a problem with that? First, it's an obsession by the man who is supposed to be the President of the United States, who has to be informed about the nations he has to deal with and the leaders of each country."



alky, i think you're projecting again. trump's not the one who's obsessed.

you are.


and regarding his tv & golf habits - he's the most powerful man on the planet. he can do what he wants.

and no, i didn't care how much golf 0linsky played because i knew that if he was on the links he wasn't fucking things up. james foley's parents were probably pissed though.

you should check with dr. ching chang chung to see if he can give you a sedative for your TDS.


btw, i am curious about one thing - did the doc issue you a temporary cripple card to hang from your rear view mirror, or did you get a permanent plate?




Loretta said...

"FYI, I have the NY Times, Wa PO and Wall St Journal subscriptions."

LOL.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Loretta said...
"FYI, I have the NY Times, Wa PO and Wall St Journal subscriptions."

LOL.
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that's roger's way of displaying his intellectual prowess.

in reality his regular reads are probably porn hub, AARP magazine, and liver transplant monthly.




Loretta said...

"dr. ching chang chung"

Hilarious.

Loretta said...

"that's roger's way of displaying his intellectual prowess."

That's exactly what he thinks, lol.

Pitiful, really.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

You two seen to have forgotten, that this blog is for the discussion of politics. That can also include calling out the host for changed behavior since Trump won the election. wp also noted that and others have too. But so you are just going to have to deal with me here. Even if he took your fat ass off the legacy blog, I would post here too, But he won't remove your fat ass.So be it.

I never watch the Today Show. But I heard about the story and went to YouTube on on my Dish Network and watched the women. I am sure you didn't watch the women and believe the President saying they are all liars. The truth is, the political world is changing and Trump isn't going to walk away without injuries.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRXI4xUHg4A

Anonymous said...

The truth is, the political world is changing and Trump isn't going to walk away without injuries.
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uh huh.

and by a proverbial landslide, no less.


"You two seen to have forgotten, that this blog is for the discussion of politics. That can also include calling out the host for changed behavior since Trump won the election."


alky, i've been on one blog or another with our host for longer than i can remember. his behavior hasn't changed a bit. yours otoh? you've lost what's left of your fucking mind. criticize CH until the cows come home if it makes your TDS easier to cope with but the problem is yours. not his.



Loretta said...

Spam by the drunkard

Anonymous said...

I am sure you didn't watch the women
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you're right. me-again is a pain in the fucking ass. she grew up just a few miles from here and she's treated like fucking royalty whenever she breezes back into town. she gave a most vapid and meaningless commencement address at albany law school last year, and everyone who knows her acknowledges the fact that since she acquired fame and fortune, she's become a real c u next tuesday.

i've no use for her nor the clowns she's using for ratings bait.

Loretta said...

The unfriending and blocking really sent the OLD creeper over the edge, lol.

C.H. Truth said...

I just got off the phone with the Donald...

Told me rumors are true and that he watches approximately 5 hours of "Impractical Jokers" every day.

Says that Murr really cracks him up.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

We are starting to see some women senators and congresswomen coming out to resign over these accusations. He says he won the election, but the political atmosphere is different. He used Bill Clinton's sexual "adventures" against Hillary and got him enough women voters to win. If it was open this year, he would lose in a landslide. LOL

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I just got off the phone with the Donald...

Told me rumors are true and that he watches approximately 5 hours of "Impractical Jokers" every day.


Good, he thinks that the women should be heard.. I was watching the news conference and she said the same thing you got.. WOW. I wish the DNC would get in contact with me, this blog has national effects.

Anonymous said...

You do know alky that no one has shut anyone up. Every woman, has had here say and then some.

Have you ever tried to get a woman to stop talking? A fools mission

Anonymous said...

According to Jane your wife, the ACLU Monitors this blog, wait, as does 7,436 of your Facebook whore and faggots. WP told us the US Government monitors us too.

A lot of prying eyes.

Anonymous said...

We do know that economic success waited for President Trump to be Elected before showing up.

Is success racist too?.

Loretta said...

"Even if he took your fat ass off the legacy blog, I would post here too"

Of course.

You need constant attention.

Anonymous said...

Hb promised to show us US GDP stats proving Obama Averaged 3 % during his 8 years. I even granted him the exclusion of the quarters he did not like. Still nothing.

Anonymous said...

Youtube a news source, lol.

Those links are still here again proving Alky wrong. CO

commie said...

Still nothing. about clean burning wood ....LOL

Anonymous said...

I posted three links, you just don't like the data.

And just for you oPie.

SEE at the end of my post that " CO"

It means Cue oPie, and you did.

commie said...

posted three links, you just don't like the data.

You posted shit, dip wad....you wouldn't know data if it fucked your wife.....

Anonymous said...

oPie, so easy to Trigger.

Heating with wood has been done since the beginning of mankind. It spark human growth, tools and so much more. Don't be angry at being wrong again.

Anonymous said...

Madam Yellan is dumping debt on Trumps Economy and is again to raise interest rate. Theses are the last grenades and mines she has before being showed the door. Pres. Jv. Did good leaving her behind to do as mutch damage as possible. Both of here little troll feet on the economic brake.

Anonymous said...

The hawk is out tonight. Winds of 40 mph and below freezing temps. Cosy in my little 3200 sq foot ranch home. My wood burning renewable clean furance is doing so good with walnut and American Elm wood. Later, overnight will use red oak and Osage orange.

commie said...

Heating with wood has been done since

That is the third time you post that worthless statement. Why not say the sun has been providing energy since the beginning???? You remain an unmitigated asshole.....Your wood burning stove adds massive amounts of particulate to the air as well as more CO2 than coal....

Commonsense said...

I lit up a fire in my fireplace for the first time in years.

So much for global warming.

Anonymous said...

I lit up a fire in my fireplace for the first time in years.
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mine is lit every evening. i feel it's my civic duty to try and get my carbon footprint as big as al gore's. i know i'll never get there but it sure feels good trying.



Anonymous said...

oPie is still butt hurt because I proved him wrong, again.

Mother Earth News a American Icon for 40 plus years showed just how green burning wood for heat really is, see stupid old out dated data oPie uses ONLY looks at the burning of wood. oPie forgot the cleaning those trees do as they grow.

Anonymous said...

95 percent of my home heat is from cheap, renewable and clean wood. The other 5 % is from the use of propane.

Anonymous said...

A question for the blog, have you ever seen a real cabin without a wood burning appliance like a fire place, wood stove or the like?

commie said...

Mother Earth News a American Icon for 40 plus

That article had nothing but opinion. My guess is you need to learn how to read....Idiot...

https://www.des.nh.gov/organization/commissioner/pip/factsheets/ard/documents/ard-36.pdf

wanna try again, asshole????.

ommonsense said...
I lit up a fire in my fireplace for the first time in years.

So much for global warming.

Thanx for the weather report, menstral....

Here's some climate info]

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/weather/first-four-months-2017-hottest-record-for-florida/PEgPQsUGjxSxM8v1ZcGJnL/

Anonymous said...




hey d0pie,

i'm curious... if you were to eat a pistol, and your body was left to decompose where it fell, how much would that contribute to warmyl cooling?

Anonymous said...

Small Business Optimistism Idex soared higher in the latest report.

Of Course it is well higher then any time during the loser lost years.

Jobs, wealth and unchaining minorities from economic bondage of poverty.

Anonymous said...

Me try again. oPie I won the game. You lost.

Better luck next time. If I see fit to play you again.

Trees Clean the environment.

commie said...

without a wood burning appliance like a fire place, wood stove or the like?

Has anyone ever seen a person able to function with a broken brain?????? BTW, ever see a cabin with a nuclear reactor?????? Your stupidity grows with each post. LOL

Anonymous said...

Human man made models. How cute that oPie believes they mean something.

They are as meaningful as the car models I built with my Dad as a kid.

Anonymous said...

Dear oPie, your cabin has a wood burner in it, right?

commie said...

KD said...
Small Business Optimistism Idex soared higher in the latest report.

Which proves you are what, an idiot/?????

Trees Clean the environment.

When you don't burn them......Asshoile

Anonymous said...

My uncles cabin at the great divide has a fireplace with insert. 100 % of the cabins in his area has a fire place of wood burning stove.

I see when the electricity goes out in cold weather areas that it takes days/weeks to be restored. Those that prepared with stocked seasoned clean firewood stay warm.

Anonymous said...

Trees Clean the Environment , yep.

That is why the burning of wood for heat is clean. The ash left over is a net gain, it is a superior fertilizer.

commie said...

Yeah you won asshole of the year....
http://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2017/12/06/wasatch-fronts-seasonal-inversion-is-coming-and-so-are-higher-fines-for-burning-wood/yea

commie said...

t. 100 % of the cabins in his area has a fire place of wood burning stove.

Which proves what??? They can't afford to put in modern system or they are too cheap to move into the modern era, like you

Anonymous said...

A law of man, ok. So you fine those that can't afford price gas, if that is wnning, you are off center.

Anonymous said...

oPie, does your cabin have a wood burner?

Anonymous said...

oPie, does your cabin have a wood burner?
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i would hope so.

the dumb fuck was trapped in it for 3 days because of a paltry 4 inches of snow.

commie said...

Rat the hole again proves his head is stuck up his ass

the dumb fuck was trapped in it for 3 days because of a paltry 4 inches of snow.

Again has no ability to read....Oh well, can't fix stupid...

Cabin has a modern gas fired system.......

So you fine those that can't afford price gas,

So all your friends are on the govmt' tit and are leeches to society...Too funny jag off!!!! Sure says a lot about you!!!! LOLO

Anonymous said...

His view comes out.
"They can't afford a modern system"

oPie is for punishing people with less wealth, because they choose to provide heat for thier family.

RRB, one would hope. Seeing oPie did not build the cabin himself. The original owner build it with a wood burning appliance.

Anonymous said...

It is a fun event to watch oPie chase his tail.

Anonymous said...

oPie's overly government regulated world.

1st offense for heating with wood on freezing days. = $150.00

2nd offense for heating with wood on freezing days = $300.00....


However, IF a homes sole source of heat is clean, renewable and affordable wood. An exemption is issued.

commie said...

1st offense for heating with wood on freezing days. = $150.00

Yep....they fine wood burners because wood is clean energy...seems the irony is once again missed by the goat fucker....LOLOLO Dayum you ar ere a dumbass....

Anonymous said...

They fine the poor and that makes oPie happy.

No cover to run to oPie.

Anonymous said...

Madam Yellan , never ever expressed the following view.
She has leaked a head of her again raising rates, her concern that "This Economy is overheating".

She sees it as her job to cool it?

commie said...

KD said...
They fine the poor and that makes oPie happy

And the rich get all the tax breaks and estate rescinded and kd jumps for trump......

Yep, KD finally sympathizes with the poor instead of screwing them like he usually does. by supporting trump

Anonymous said...

Opie keep chasing your tail, you almost got your own nose up your own ass.

commie said...

KD losing again shows us his lack of brains.....

you almost got your own nose up your own ass.

Awesome retort retard....LOLOLOL