It's been suggested by more illegal leaks by unknown sources to the NY Times (aka fake news) that the main reason for the Russian probe was not the Trump dossier, but rather a drunken rant from George Papadopoulos to an Australian diplomat in London.
If you believe the NY Times, I have some ocean side Florida property, a couple of bit-coins, and a bridge to sell you.
Factually speaking, this information would have been at best third hand information. It could not have factually been corroborated by the FBI before starting the probe, because they didn't speak to Papadopoulos till February of 2017.
The concept that the FBI would both...
- Start a huge politically charged investigation based on third hand information
- Not verify the original source of the information till approximately eight months after the investigation started
BTW: This all takes place at a time that the FBI and DOJ are still stonewalling Congress on providing the information used to justify the FICA warrants and justify the investigation. If the FBI really wanted to show that it was a tip from the Australians, and not the Steele Dossier, well then they could hand that information over to Congress.
But they haven't. Why?
I have not been an advocate of firing Jeff Sessions, but ultimately he can make this call. If I was the President at this point, I would provide Sessions with the ultimatum. Find a way to produce the information to Congress or turn in your resignation.
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Fake News is proof that your credibility is in the gutter.
You're delusional.
The timing of the information on this specific case is irrelevant and nothing more than your opinion.
The Russians were involved in the election. The Trump campaign ignored the warning signs and instead used their knowledge of the planned social media assault to their advantage.
Did Trump know the details or his involvement is still an open question.
The Russians were in collusion with the clinton campaign. It would've stayed a secret if she had won.
HB went to the ER last nite for a opiate OD.
Roger -
Perhaps you could actually address the argument?
Oh right. My argument is spot on, and you cannot refute it.
Thus the desperate name calling.
Roger, will you live thru the Trump 7 years.
Exactly, only Dems had thier minds/vote changed by the Russians. Is that your position HB?
What point?
You randomly spouted that the Times reported a falsehood because they are part of the giant conspiracy to destroy Trump.
The conversation was verified. The fact that it took place early in the campaign and implies that the collusion between the Russians and the campaign.
The ambassador isn't part of the get Trump conspiracy.
I cannot remember the last time Roger actually made an argument.
He simply makes ad hominen insults... and then tells us the same story over and over and over about how he thinks Trump is dangerous.
I guess that makes him feel as if he doesn't actually "need" to make an argument. He just needs to call people names.
Roger...
There is no verification of this story. The investigation has been going on for 18 months and nobody has heard of this.
As pointed out by the WSJ and others:
Kimberley Strassel@KimStrassel
Sure--when the NYT provides any proof (or names, or sources or anything other than anonymous assertion) for its claims.
So factually you are wrong Roger. I story without named sources is 100% unverified. The FBI has the opportunity to provide Congress with their reasons for their warrants and investigations. Which would actually be something that would be "VERIFIED". They refuse to do so.
Just for that fucking idiot from Kansas.
I have an extremely painful issue with the lumbar spine area. All I know about it is that it hurts like hell. Sharp pain and spasms.
We have been waiting for about four hours. I am not high on anything.
Roger
Explain for us why the FBI would start an investigation because of something someone supposedly told another person...
and not even bother to interview the person who supposedly made the statements for the first eight months of the investigation?
The Australian government released a confirmation of the meeting to the FBI. They refused to confirm or deny the details. May 2016..Note the date.
In July WikiLeaks released thousands of emails hacked from the DNC server.
The "coffee boy" was a "great guy" and Trump did pick him.
This is standard procedure for the White House, to attack and call a liar or incompetent anyone who provides negative information on the President. This is how lawyers work. Call them a liar or worse, pound on the table. You have bought in.
The FBI was shocked, and that spurred the investigation. Ten months after the drunken meeting, fired James Comey for refusing to stop the Russian investigation.
The rest of it is history.
So if they refuse to confirm or deny the details what exactly are they confirming?
Explain for us why the FBI would start an investigation because of something someone supposedly told another person...
Because of the type of information on the election! Our free and honest elections are a foundation of our Republic. The involvement of a hostile foreign government is more important as anything else. What is even worse, is that the campaign of one of the contenders may have been involved with the hostile foreign government.
How that you find irrelevant that a hostile foreign government's intervention and desire to elect a specific candidate is not important. Why aren't you distributed?
As to the delay in questioning him for months, I don't know. I'm not an expert on the investigation process, and neither are you.
But it would fire up your conspiracy theory on "Get Trump" .
December 30th , 2017 3:06 pm, HB tells us he hates RRB. Oh and HB is at the ER.
Yep, today, still there or back for 2nd time in two days.
"Living a healthy life style". HB
Roger:
from the NY Times story:
In response to questions, Mr. Papadopoulos’s lawyers declined to provide a statement.
In a statement, the Australian Embassy in Washington declined to provide details about the meeting or confirm that it occurred.
So there is no confirmation from either source on this. It's 100% entirely based on anonymous sources... the time line simply doesn't add up... and the "timing" of the story is very suspect: hearing about it for the first time 18 months into an investigation, at exactly the time that the FBI is under fire to explain "why" they started the probe in the first place...
Either way Roger... even if the story is true. The argument is that third hand information was used to start an FBI counterintelligence investigation... which is probably a "worse" reason than the Dossier would be to have started an investigation. A completely unverified drunken statement was the reason? Really? You actually are willing to buy that?
HB you abused your health with cigarettes, booze, opiates . Your body failures are to date your kidneys, liver, spine. What a train wreck.
Roger - you are so full of shit.
Your only problem is that Trump won the election.
If you were really troubled by foreigners causing problems with our elections, then you would be equally upset by anti-Trump people hiring former British Agents to go talk to high ranking Russian officials.
The fact that that doesn't bother you is proof positive, that your claims that this is about election integrity are nothing but a big fat giant lie!
Of course Roger is full of shit.
Roger is showing himself to be an ignorant buffoon when it comes to trump. What a shame.
Hillary AND FBI Paid Gps Fusion.
The Bitch almost got away with it along with James Commie's FBI. If only she would have Won, none of this comes to see the light of day.
Roger is still at the ER wating Four Hours.
What kind of shit hole coverage makes someone in extreme pain wait 4 hours to be seen.
CH the sycophant said....
He just needs to call people names.
Complains about roger's veracity while letting the ignorant duo post this tripe with impunity.....sad
Myballs said...
Roger is showing himself to be an ignorant buffoon when it comes to trump. What a shame.
KD said...
Of course Roger is full of shit.
KD said...
HB you abused your health with cigarettes, booze, opiates
And of course CH posts his own tripe...
C.H. Truth said...
Roger - you are so full of shit.
BTW....all you got is the australian allegation is unconfirmed.....Yeah, like every political BS argument, the lawyer and gov't neither confirm or deny the meeting....just like GW is a hoax, you know better than the reporting.....which is why I thank god for the free press to put this stuff out while all you can do is squirm and hope it is not correct....I'd be mueller knows for sure!!!! And he won't disclose, yet, but it is coming.
GO VIKINGS
BTW....all you got is the australian allegation is unconfirmed.
That and the fact that it makes absolutely zero sense.
which is why I thank god for the free press to put this stuff out while all you can do is squirm
Actually I find it amusing, more than anything else. I don't have to "hope" it's wrong, it's pretty much always wrong!
The real problem is that this story makes the FBI look like a bigger bunch of douches than they already look like. Actually starting a counter-intelligence investigation because one drunk person told another drunk person something over drinks? You do realize how stupid that sounds?
The Dossier actually would look like a credible reason in comparison.
Wikileaks just released emails showing ny times giving hillary state dept up to nine days advance notice for it's publications.
Everything involving hillary was rigged.
We have a lot. We Have President Trump.
What is hillary doing?
Seems business insider is also connecting the dots....seems to me that the story is now gaining momentum in spite of CH wishing it would go away....LOL
The FBI decided to investigate whether President Trump's campaign colluded with Russia after early foreign-policy adviser George Papadopoulos told a top Australian diplomat that Russia had compromising information on Hillary Clinton, The New York Times reported.
Though there were several events that prompted the bureau to investigate the campaign, Papadopoulos' conversation with the diplomat was reportedly the one that led the bureau to formally launch its probe.
Newly obtained emails also show that Papadopoulos' reach and influence within the campaign was greater than previously known.
The FBI's investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow was not prompted by a dossier compiled by a former British spy, but by campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos boasting to a top Australian diplomat about Russia's dirt on then Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, The New York Times reported Saturday.
The Times also obtained new emails which show Papadopoulos' influence within the campaign and contacts with Russia-linked individuals was greater than previously known.
The bureau opened its Russia probe in July 2016. President Donald Trump and his allies have dismissed the investigation as a Democratic "witch hunt" spurred by the dossier, which was compiled by former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, and alleges a number of explosive Trump-Russia ties.
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/fbi-opened-russia-probe-after-papadopoulos-told-australian-diplomat-of-clinton-dirt-2017-12/
That and the fact that it makes absolutely zero sense.
And the fact that the russians interfered with the elections is just a rumor also......LOL
The russinas also deny shipping oil to NK per putin....I guess that makes it true also..
don't have to "hope" it's wrong, it's pretty much always wrong!
Just like the GW models are wrong because you say so. That is truly funny CH....
makes the FBI look like a bigger bunch of douches
And so do you buying into the trump mantra that the DOJ and FBI are working against him!!!!!....yep, you are drowning in trump semen!!!
oPie, you admitted you don't know the tempature of the earth, yet, you belive it is too hot.
You admitted you don't know what the temp of the earth should be if man was not on earth.
Why did FBI Officials need an "Insurance policy" from the newly Elected President?
There is no reason at all to doubt the story of Papadopoulos and the Australian Diplomat. It is consistent with his documented behavior, with that of other Trump campaign officials, and of course foolishly running off at the mouth starts at the very top. It's almost certainly accurate, and I have to question why any objective person would doubt it.
That said, it is not as significant as some people might think it to be. So he was bragging that the Russians had dirt. Maybe they had dirt in Lebanon as well, maybe Australia, who cares. It's not illegal, not even noteworthy for a slimeball political consultant type. That's what they do, they look for dirt anywhere they can find it. It wasn't what spurred the Investigation. Mulluer's dtractors might hope that it was something trivial like that, and they may even try to generate that impression, the easier to knock it down. But the cold hard fact is that Russian interference spurred the Investigation, and the unusual nature of Trump's campaign contacts with the Russians brought him into it.
Wp, bad news Our Roger has been at the ER twice in two days. #sosadhealthylifestyle
and the unusual nature of Trump's campaign contacts with the Russians brought him into it.
Including all the forgotten contacts by sessions, kushner, flynn, manifort, et al.....A young unqualified coffee getter may be the straw that brings the house of cards down.....Seems donnie likes his workers submissive and passive to him. So many leads to follow and we really don't know what prompted the initial trump investigation. Me thinks as the shoes fall it will become self evident how much trump knew and when he knew it....I really hope he is squirming because if you go with CH and there is nothing there, why all the fuss???? I still have faith in the mueller investigation....as to Howdy Gowdy and his disingenuous smirks, congress has the capability of doing nothing important with the bias they exhibit. You have a better chance of winning power ball then getting an honest report from the R's.....
Say everything you, HB, Jane, WP say is true.
How did any of it cause Hillary Clinton to lose?
And how have you, KD not been killed due to your stupidity????? Oh I forgot, you have great genes....LOLOLOL
oPie, tags out.
So it is up to ER Alky, jane and WP, to answer my easy question.
WP
whether or not a drunk American said something to a drunk Australian really isn't the issue one way or the other.
the question (and I think you answered it the same way I did) is whether such a conversation would actually be he catalyst for a full blown investigation into some sort of "collusion"... as is being suggested by the NY Times.
It seems ridiculously far-fetched.
I'm only upset because she lost the election.
You are full of shit.
If you aren't blinded to the truth by your desire to be right despite evidence to the contrary, you wouldn't have looked so stupid. I hesitated to use that, because I think you are intelligent. But it's the truth .
Collusion isn't far fetched because the evidence is irrefutable. In March the drunken conversation, very early in the campaign.
It would be seen as a big fucking deal. If you were an investigator, you would have been amazed at how the Russians were involved in our election, unless you are on Trumpism stage four mentality. Which is brutally apparent
"It seems ridiculously far-fetched"
Not if you're into conspiracy theories, along with being ate up with a serious case of TDS.
geez alky, i haven't seen you get your clock cleaned this badly in at least a couple of days.
here's a helpful hint, alky...
if you see a story out there and you see maggie haberman's name associated with it, even loosely, dismiss it on the spot. she is arguably the biggest fucking hack at the ny times right now. and that's going some.
LOL
The Trump campaign went under investigation after the meeting. That's a fact.
There is no credible evidence to the contrary.
Our host has made claims that the investigation that was not spurred by the meeting.
"the question (and I think you answered it the same way I did) is whether such a conversation would actually be he catalyst for a full blown investigation into some sort of "collusion"... as is being suggested by the NY Times.
It seems ridiculously far-fetched."
It (seems) to be far-fetched.
There is no longer reason to doubt the FBI investigation into the Russian government intervention into the election.
That's all he's got because he flat out refuses to believe anything that is contrary to what the President says. Irrefutable evidence that the conversation about dirt on Clinton has been verified by the ambassador to Austria. It is a fact.
4.) The @maggieNYT is also nonsense based on common sense. Papadopoulos was so important that:
July 15th 2016 Comey opens counterintel investigation into Russian collusion.
January 15th 2017 FBI visits Papadopoulos for first time.
FBI waited for six months to talk to him?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/947239086842146816.html
The Trump campaign went under investigation after the meeting. That's a fact.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
That's all he's got because he flat out refuses to believe anything that is contrary to what the President says.
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actually alky, the president has nothing at all to do with this particular pile of haberman bullshit.
kim strassel gets it -
Kimberley Strassel
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@KimStrassel
Sure--when the NYT provides any proof (or names, or sources or anything other than anonymous assertion) for its claims. Funny that the FBI cooks up this story right at the point that the House is demanding to see the documents that will show what really happened. https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/947150751242993670 …
5:04 PM - Dec 30, 2017
funny indeed. the house has been demanding those docs for a while and the FBI continues to stonewall. then out of nowhere this story pops up. quite the coincidence
wp answered the questions and so did I.
Kimberley A. Strassel is an American author, journalist, and member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board. She writes a weekly conservative column, "Potomac Watch", which appears on Fridays.
This is your source. A conservative columnist.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
wp answered the questions and so did I.
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wp did but you didn't. you bitterly cling to the notion that a conversation between 2 drunks in a bar was the genesis of the russia, russia, russia investigation, and that popadop is somehow key to the whole thing.
both assertions are flatly false and ludicrous on their face.
haberman and her 5 minions concocted a mountain of amazing bullshit, probably at the behest of some clinton lackey within the FBI.
your fundamental problem alky is that the russia, russia, russia story is falling apart. it was always never more than a lame excuse for granny's defeat. if you were in pursuit of the truth you'd want what the house wants - those fisa warrant applications and all the other supporting docs that the FBI refuses to reveal.
This is your source. A conservative columnist.
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so? i know exactly who she is.
your problem is that she's asking questions and demanding things that make you uncomfortable.
too fucking bad.
alky, you're a coward. whining because strassel is a conservative who writes for the WSJ? really. LOL.
show us where what she saying is unreasonable or wrong.
c'mon champ. give it a shot.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
As to the delay in questioning him for months, I don't know. I'm not an expert on the investigation process, and neither are you.
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you dumb fuck.
you don't need to be an "expert" on the investigative process to see that you probably don't want to wait A FULL SIX MONTHS before questioning someone related to your investigation. you probably don't want to wait six days.
as usual, you're flailing alky. and i must say, it never gets old.
Sure--when the NYT provides any proof (or names, or sources or anything other than anonymous assertion) for its claims. Funny that the FBI cooks up this story right at the point that the House is demanding to see the documents that will show what really happened. https://t.co/cR8iT1XVDP
S h e is a h a c k
I had to write that in rrbenglish..
It was an opinion column in the Wall Street Journal.
I'm going to open some her columns and read more of the stuff that CH has rewritten and posted here.
President Trump is on the hunt for a 2018 issue—a strong follow-up to his tax-cut victory that will motivate voters and gain bipartisan support. Democrats are pushing for an infrastructure bill, inviting the president to spend with them. House GOP leaders are mulling entitlement reform—a noble goal, if unlikely in a midterm cycle.
Fortunately for the president, there’s a better idea out there that’s already a Trump theme. It’s also a sure winner with the public, so Republicans ought to be able to pressure Democrats to join.
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It’s Lois Lerner, the IRS official who used her powers to silence conservative nonprofits. It’s the “anonymous” officials who leak national-security secrets daily. It’s the General Services Administration officials who turned over Trump transition emails to Special Counsel Robert Mueller in the absence of a warrant. It’s the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s Leandra English, who tried to stage an agency coup. It’s the EPA’s “Scientific Integrity Official” who has taken it upon herself to investigate whether Scott Pruitt is fit to serve in the office to which he was duly appointed. It’s the thousands of staffers across the federal government who continue to pump out reports on global warming and banking regulations that undermine administration policy.
This is what we see here from a columnist, not a journalist, she's a hack.
except she's not wrong, alky. you are.
and you're flailing again. reduced to your old crutch of copy/paste's.
you're a joke, alky. and it's easy to see why you're addicted to narcotics. your life's a pile of shit, and you have a ton of emotional pain to kill.
The delay is meaningless. But you of course have nothing but angry, incomprehensible insults, instead of thought out responses.
The meeting happened. You claim that the FBI and the "Fake News" are in a conspiracy to damage the President.
That's either stupid or insane. In your case, it's both.
anyway alky, tell us again why the FBI would wait six full months to question someone who was the genesis of your entire russia, russia, russia story.
i mean, according to haberman, et. al, popadop was the mastermind, the kingpin, the single most important person of the trump campaign that could prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that vladimir putin himself installed donald j trump into the oval orifice.
and while you're at it, help me understand why the FBI is stonewalling congress again? what could they possible be hiding? does it implicate 0linsky? inquiring minds want to know.
Roger
- WP admitted that he didn't think the conversation had anything to do with spurring the investigation...
- Your article admits that the information is unconfirmed.
Yet you continue to argue as if WP agrees with you, and you continue to claim that the Australian story is "verified".
Are you just stupid, or are you under the influence of something?
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The delay is meaningless
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really.
ask anyone in law enforcement if in the course of an investigation they would wait a full six months to investigate a suspect or witness. we're talking the ability to recall here. and popadop was shitfaced, remember?
The meeting happened.
no shit, sherlock.
what also happened is that six journOlists from the ny times wrote a story assigning a level of significance to that meeting that cannot be supported by any witnesses or evidence. and you're waving it around like a smoking gun shouting "we really got him this time!!!11!"
you're a fool, alky. a desperate, psychotic, pathetic fool.
This is all you have.
you're a joke, alky. and it's easy to see why you're addicted to narcotics. your life's a pile of shit, and you have a ton of emotional pain to kill.
I write about this, and provide back-up. The above is an accusation about things that are not true. Your obsession with my recovery and other medical conditions is disturbing. Get some help.
Are you just stupid? Of course not.
or are you under the influence of something? No.
Are you stupid enough to believe that the Russian intervention into the Presidential election is meaningless?
Are you just stupid, or are you under the influence of something?
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oh, he's stupid.
the narcotics is just the cherry on top.
Are you stupid enough to believe that the Russian intervention into the Presidential election is meaningless?
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meaningless? absolutely not! we're talking masterful evil genius here, alky.
think about it...
hillary spent a reported $1.2 BILLION on the election.
trump spent about half that.
pooty poot, being the diabolical evil genius that he is dropped about $100K on fakebook ads and stole the whole fucking enchilada.
i mean, you just can't make this stuff up, alky!
or can you?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/11/10/kimberley-strassel-fusion-gps-dossier-was-one-dirtiest-political-tricks-in-us-history.html
Your non-attributed comments are from this hack.
The Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign hired the opposition-research firm Fusion GPS in April 2016 to dig up dirt on Donald Trump. Fusion in turn hired former U.K. spook Christopher Steele to assemble the (now largely discredited) dossier. That full dossier of allegations wasn’t made public until after the election, in January 2017. And the media and Democrats continue to peddle the line that it played no role during the election itself.
Are you stupid enough to believe that the Russian intervention into the Presidential election is meaningless?
You believe that this is my argument?
I have never argued that election intervention (by anyone) is not a problem.
But that's not really the focus, is it? The focus for the past 18 months has been to attempt (by any loose means possible) to show that Trump was somehow involved in it.
You really don't give a bigger shit about election interference. You are only interested in Trump.
You don't care that British agents were paid to talk to Russian government agents about Trump. You don't care that the FBI appears to have started an investigation into one of the candidates (during the election) and allowed periodic leaks of information to the public. You don't have any real interest in the fact that our FBI still refuses to provide Congress with the information they used to start an investigation into a Presidential Candidate and his team.
How would you feel if the 2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate and team was put under FBI investigation in May of 2020, had members of the team put under FICA surveillance... all approved by the FBI and Trump DOJ. Then the FBI refused to turn over to Congress their reasons for instigating the investigation (even under subpoena)? Would't that appear to be a little bit fishy to you? Woudn't you question the legitimacy of the investigation, as well as whether or not there was an abuse of power?
No Roger... you are only interested in Trump. Moreover, you are even able to ignore the parts of your own stories that don't seem to fit your preconceived notions.
The reality (like it or not) is that the Papadopoulos story is based entirely on four anonymous sources that include former American and Foreign officials. The story doesn't even suggest that any of the sources are law enforcement, much less FBI or DOJ. Moreover, the fact that they are "former" officials suggests that they were Obama appointees (not rank and file members of the Government).
The NY Times attempted to verify this story with the sources, and got zero verification from anyone. They literally have no verification from the Papadopoulos camp, Australian officials, or from a single person from the FBI.
Yet you keep insistig that it's 100% verified. Which tends to make me believe that you literally take "EVERYTHING" you are told from the media and believe it... without "ANY" critical thinking what-so-ever.
This is just one example of the hacking by someone who is supposed to be without fault. She contradicts herself right here
That full dossier of allegations wasn’t made public until after the election, in January 2017. And the media and Democrats continue to peddle the line that it played no role during the election itself. This is contradictory...
She claimed that the dossier was influential in the election but then it wasn't released until 2017.
You have been trying to claim that the Clinton campaign used the dossier against Trump, and so has Trump. CH is in the Trump swamp.
Roger -
You do realize that the statement that the "full dossier" was not released to the public until after the election... is actually an admission that "parts" of it were released prior to the election.
So says CH
Let's put it this way. This election was influenced by a hostile foreign power. The Trump administration says that the Russians were not involved.
That is a lie. Yet you don't care when he lies. Again you are not bothered about it.
Why aren't you calling him out for anything?
Roger -
You continuously change the subject... and flat out lie.
I would have absolutely no problem (nor would any conservative) with an actual investigation into what happened with the 2016 election.
By all means, Mueller should be able to tell us what exactly happened. Show us evidence (not speculation) that it was the Russians. He has 17 people on staff, and that's his job.
But that's not what Mueller is doing, and it's not actually what you want him to be doing. You would much prefer that he investigate what Paul Manafort did in 2012, or what Mike Flynn did during the transition.
Your only interest is having Mueller try to find something (anything) to pin on Trump, or his associates. You couldn't care less if it's about the 2016 election, Russian hacking... or not.
At least someone like WP pretty much admits he doesn't care much about the election, and that he just wants Mueller to go after Trump and his family. WP openly admits he would be fine with process crimes against the Trump family, or having Mueller go after old Trump financial issues (to see if there is a crime) just to prove a point.
The fact that you pretend otherwise... makes you a liar.
You have no scruples, and would much prefer Mueller investigate anything "but" the election... as long as it goes after Trump and his family. Because, you are obsessed.
The use of anonymous sources always bothered you when they are negative information on the President.
When they were used against Obama, you couldn't get enough sleep before you wrote a negative post on him.
You brought up the dossier. You changed the topic as you tried distract attention from the meeting that spurred the investigation into the Russian/Trump collusion. You ducked again.
You are lying about me again. If there is credible source, of course there should be an investigation into the dossier.
But you would end the Mueller investigation immediately.
Hypocrisy on steroids.
Almost as powerful as mine. Lol
CH stated....
no problem (nor would any conservative) with an actual investigation into what happened with the 2016 election.
Isn't that exactly what comey was doing before he was fired and mueller was appointed to investigate? IOW's FBI/Mueller bad, Trump et al is as pure as snow????? Maybe Howdy Gowdy should be the guy in charge since he did such a spectacular job on Benghazi for 10 months....Funny how a republican appointed ex-director cannot meet muster in your biased world. The takeover is complete because you can no longer be rational about trump. And the reality is, what difference does the reason behind the investigation was the dossier or a loud mouths drunken boasting....The bottom line once again is mueller know and hasn't disclosed and you speculating something nefarious going on is just that....speculating and completely irrelevant to what will go on or happen. Chill, CH, roger and his opinion is just as valid as yours....Not that it matters, I think the popadop, drunken tirade helped and as WP said, there is no reason to doubt the veracity of the reporting.....
LOL.
CH triggered Roger again.
Beautiful.
oretta said...
LOL.
CH triggered Roger again.
Don't you ever have an original thought to add instead of being an old haggish cheerleader??? Yeah, get me some of that....LOLOLOL Roger kicked CH's bigoted ass again....at least one of them admits shortfalls, something neither you or CH have ever done.....
Meaningless" HB really deeply believes Hillary lost because Putin changed votes.
HB, do tell, you voted Trump?
HB, Jane, WP and even little oPie.
Your vote was changed to Trump because of how Putin manipulation?
Your vote was changed to Trump because of how Putin manipulation?
You really are too stupid for words, asshole...You need to tend to your pig....she is lonely.,...LOLO
The use of anonymous sources always bothered you when they are negative information on the President.
Roger... Several problems.
- The anonymous source stories have been wrong, over and over. When it comes to stories that are "smoking guns" it's been like Lucy pulling the ball on Charlie Brown. They always end up being a whiff. There still has not been any potential smoking gun stories that panned out, but many that ended up being retracted.
- This particular anonymous source story doesn't even suggest that the sources were even part of the FBI or had anything to do with the investigation. They call them "former officials, some of them foreign". There is little reason to believe that officials unrelated to the probe would have any real information on what prompted FICA warrants or an FBI investigation.
- anonymous sources are not "verified" sources, as you keep suggesting. In fact the story itself admits that they got no verification from any of the players (not the FBI, not the Mueller investigation, not the Austrialians, and not the Popadopoulos team. There was a time when the media would not have reported a story based on anonymous sources that could not otherwise be actually verified.
Why, Roger.. when so many of these stories turn out to be proven wrong, would anyone just take them at face value? Without the slightest bit of critical thinking.
oPie, so your vote was FOR Hillary .
So, your not the one whom The Russian Mind Meld . Ok, who do you know that it worked on?
Why, Roger believe in any story that might be "THE STORY"?
Because TRUMP WON.
To be clear here... whether or not two drunk people talked about Hillary dirt is sort of irrelevant. Even if such a conversation took place and even if such a conversation was relayed to the US Government, it still wouldn't prove what the NY Times is suggesting (that a drunken conversation was what "spurred" the investigation or was the catalyst for FICA warrants).
Do you seriously believe that a Judge would provide a warrant to wire tap a Presidential campaign based on unverified third hand information about a supposed conversation between two drunk people? Apparently both an investigation was started and FICA warrants were provided "prior" to the FBI even questioning the person in question?
I want you to really seriously consider how a Judge would possibly provide a secret wiretap based on such an unverified conversation? If you really feel that is how our government works, then you and I have a different idea of what our FBI should and should not be doing pertaining to Presidential Candidates and elections.
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
retta said...
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Whatever. Still nothing to add, shocking from such a genius like yourself....
KD said...
oPie, so your vote was FOR Hillary .
None of your fucking business, idiot...
not the one whom The Russian Mind Meld .
You having a lobotomy would do the world good
You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Goofball.
"then you and I have a different idea of what our FBI should and should not be doing pertaining to Presidential Candidates and elections."
Roger was calling for Comey' s head when he thought the FBI was screwing Hillary.
SO, there's that.
it still wouldn't prove what the NY Times is suggesting (that a drunken conversation was what "spurred" the investigation or was the catalyst for FICA warrants).
And you sure didn't prove it did not happen... Only you can think your position is correct since you do nothing but project trump BS. The fact remains until proven otherwise, the times piece seems correct and logical in spite of you saying otherwise!!! Mueller knows and till he spills the beans, no one is right or wrong.....
Roger was calling for Comey' s head when he thought the FBI was screwing Hillary.
Sure, in your little mind....LOL
Opie they are just pissed off because the drunken conversation with a Trump hire as a campaign aide – Not Dossier – Sparked FBI Investigation.
I never wanted Comey to be fired.
That's a complete lie.
"Time For Comey To Go"
https://coldheartedtruthlegacy.blogspot.com/2016/10/time-for-comey-to-go.html?m=1
"defending the statement he made today, Comey might assert that he was attempting to clarify his prior Congressional testimony. But that elaboration on his testimony could legitimately have waited until the FBI completed its analysis of the new emails. He has been around long enough to understand that any new FBI statements regarding the email scandal during the final 11 days of the campaign had a high probability of improperly placing the Bureau into the political process.
Trashing the Justice and FBI rule books in the interest of "openness" is likely to put the FBI front and center in one of the most contentious presidential races in recent US history. J. Edgar Hoover loved to influence elections, but he had the good sense to keep quiet about it."
It was a copy/paste of a CNN piece. I didn't comment on the story. That was the title of the story.
I got criticized for that.
I didn't want him fired ever.
Your mind is worthless. You made an assumption. You are obsessed and need help because you are on drugs lol
"EmailGate Is Becoming Even More Ridiculous"
LOL
"This is a search for a "penitent" email. They have NO idea whether there is any pertinent email, and given there are thousands of emails . Comey made a massive mistake."
LOL
I didn't write a single word of the post.
If you want to go back and post the entire thread and show that as part of the discussion to prove your claim.
My memory is intact. I had several evaluations by psychiatrists after the transplant surgery.
Another flashback...
"This is an expression of his deep anger at getting beat by a woman.
I think he's going to go completely over the top tonight. He's going to lose more states and cost the GOP the congress too. BTW, the newest polls show Clinton 6% over Trump in Arizona. Look out Texas will probably go if he loses it tonight.
Landslide."
Ette, I love it when qoute HB vs HB.
The NY Times cannot keep their story straight:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/us/politics/carter-page-russia-trump.html
A few months back, the reason that the FBI decided to investigate Trump and Russia, was because of Carter Page and a visit he made. No mention of Populousness at that time.
Today the same NY Times insists that it wasn't Carter Page, but now it's Populousness and a drunken conversation. No mention of Carter Page today.
"Trump isn't Saint Ronald of the Reagan.
He's a joke.
If your party had nominated a qualified candidate, you would be looking forward to a Republican being sworn in on January 20, 2017.
But you won't.
By 10:00 PM one week from today, I will be laughing at you."
Roger Lynn Amick
"Comey Has To Go"
"The director of the FBI inserted the agency into the election. The letter nine days ago, was incorrect. The letter he released today, does not excuse his original letter. I don't know how it works, but he should not be retained as the director of the FBI.
Roger Amick at 5:49 PM"
https://coldheartedtruthlegacy.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-post-i-put-up-yesterday-for-racist.html?m=1
I didn't want him fired ever.
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yeah you did, alky. in one meltdown after another.
but i'll be kind and give you the benefit of the doubt and fault your memory instead of calling you a liar.
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