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This was a good night for Donald Trump (all possibilities considered). Watching CNN and MSNBC, they will always find something to complain about when it comes to Trump. But when you are criticizing facial expressions or suggesting that the speech was "racists" it makes it pretty obvious that you have no tangible criticism to wield.
I thought Trump made excellent use of his guests and their stories. In a quiet (almost subconscious manner) Trump was telling us that being an American hero is based on how you live your life and what you do, not based on whether you were born in America or some where else. The speech was a little long. The delivery was more somber than the message he was giving. But considering what "could" have happened, I would assume that Trump's inner circle are popping the champagne corks.
The follow up by Joe Kennedy was dark. Far darker than the GOP convention speech that the media declared to be dark. Quite obviously, that is how Democrats are feeling today, as I heard CNN and MSNBC sort of suggest that Kennedy told the right story.
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If you are part of the two thirds of Americans who believe that Americans can be dreamers too, and that it's reasonable for the country to end chain migration, visa lotteries, and cut back on immigration... then you will like the fact that the President stood up for Americans. If you want to live in a better country, have a higher standard of living, and be safer, then you probably appreciated the President's message.
If you are part of the less than one third who believes in open borders and that everyone who doesn't is a racist... then you probably fell in line with the message of Joe Kennedy (which appears to be that being born somewhere other than America makes you better than someone born here). If you are part of the shrinking minority still obsessed with "Russia" and are still not over the fact that Trump is President, then you probably related to Joe Kennedy and the "resistance".
UPDATE: CNN suggested on their front page that Trump's speech had the "least positive" reaction to the speech of any President in 20 years. You have to go into the story to read that Trump's 48% Very Positive rating was exactly the same as Barack Obama's first SOTU speech. The difference apparently was a few more Americans had a "somewhat positive" viewpoint of Obama's speech. a a few less had a negative rating of the former President's first SOTU. Moreover, the difference between the two speeches rested on the fact that more Republicans were willing to express a positive view about Obama, than Democrats were willing to express about Trump? Surprising? Not really.
Certainly nobody would have expected a CNN poll to show Trump and Obama anywhere's near each other in terms of speech giving. Certainly everyone would have expected Trump to have more "resistance" to his speech than Obama would have seen. The fact is that looking at expectations and how the media was going to portrait these two speeches, I would argue that Trump beat his expectations and impressed many, many people "in spite" of a negative reaction from most of the media. Perhaps he should come up with some more excuses to take his message directly to the American public with national addresses. They seem to work for him.
Btw... the fact that CNN is splitting hairs to declare Trump's first SOTU speech to be a "less positive reaction" than Obama's first SOTU speech is actually working (like it or not) to "normalize" the President. Many on the left never thought Trump would make it a year, much less seeing the media forced to compare and contrast his first SOTU speech to that of Barack Obama.
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Little Kennedy boy. Cute.
If there is any common sense the Democrats would get shellacked in November.
Tax cuts
"Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."
FACT CHECK: FALSE
In fact, the Trump tax cuts are the eighth largest in history.
This claim has been fact-checked in the past. The Washington Post deemed it a 4-Pinocchio whopper.
The Post measured the tax cut as a percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP), in order to take inflation adjustments out of the equation. Assuming the growth that Mr. Trump anticipates, the Post calculated that the tax cut would be 0.9 percent of GDP.
That puts his tax cut squarely behind President Barack Obama's 2010 tax cut, which was 1.31 percent of GDP. Ronald Reagan's 1981 tax cut was the biggest at 2.89 percent of GDP. -- Kate Rydell
Talk about lying, Obama's 2010 "tax cut" was really just an extension of the Bush tax cuts making them perminate.
Obama never actually cut taxes in his own.
And certainly the Trump's reform of the tax code was one of the most extensive in history.
Oh, and when you change the methodology of measuring tax cuts to call it a lie means it really wasn't a lie to begin with.
This will make the Democrat's head hurt.
CBS News: Viewers Approved of Trump's SOTU speech 75% to 25%.
Immediate response doesn't mean shit.
The immediate aftermath by Fake News isn't positive.
It means a lot since those people actually watched it.
As Brit Hume said it will be interesting to hear what people who didn't watch the speech and only hear the media spin think of it.
The immediate aftermath by Fake News isn't positive.
You must have only listen to Juan. The rest of the panel gave it a more fair treatment.
Of course Hannity and Ingram are ecstatic.
AP is fact-checking remarks from President Donald Trump's State of the Union speech. Here's a look at some of the claims we've examined:
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
TRUMP: "The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age — that covers almost three times more people than the previous administration."
THE FACTS: Not so. The Obama administration pushed legal status for many more immigrants and was prevented by Congress and the courts from offering it. A 2013 bill that passed the Senate but died in the House would have bestowed legal status on about 8 million people, according to a Congressional Budget Office estimate.
In 2014, the Obama administration announced an expanded program that included parents of young immigrants who were shielded from deportation under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. According to the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute, the measure would have given legal status to up to 4 million people. The Supreme Court deadlocked on the plan, letting a lower court ruling stand that blocked it.
TERRORISTS
TRUMP: "In the past, we have foolishly released hundreds and hundreds of dangerous terrorists only to meet them again on the battlefield, including the ISIS leader, (Abu Bakr) al-Baghdadi, who we captured, who we had, who we released."
THE FACTS: Trump is correct that al-Baghdadi had been released after being detained at Abu Ghraib and Camp Bucca, U.S. detention facilities in Iraq. But Trump made his comment while announcing that he had signed an executive order to keep open the controversial U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. If he meant that "hundreds and hundreds" of Guantanamo detainees had been released only to return to the battlefield, his math is off.
The office of the Director of National Intelligence said this summer in its most recent report on the subject that of the 728 detainees who have been released from Guantanamo, 122 are "confirmed" and 90 are "suspected" of re-engaging in hostile activities.
Immediate response doesn't mean shit.
Of course not in your mind.
After all, the immediate reaction is based on people's own opinion of what they actually saw. It requires an ability to think for yourself (rather than wait till you are told how to think).
For those of you who cannot actually think for yourself...
sure... the only thing that matters is whether or not your cut and paste of someone else's opinion will have the desired effect of rousing Opie and James to your side!
For those of you who cannot actually think for yourself... applies to my friend not me
I'm just pointing out that the Fake News isn't being nice. I'm not able to write much. I'm at the Elks club in West Covina with my lovely wife.
I woke up to see what happened.
The reviews are not unexpected.
Slate as the unexpected
But Trump’s speech was also deeply dangerous for an even more important reason: Under the cover of his soothing rhetoric about unity and bipartisanship, Trump called on Congress to give him unprecedented and unquestionably antidemocratic powers: “Tonight,” he said, “I call on the congress to empower every Cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers—and to remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people.”
By design, it is easy to overlook the true significance of the second half of that phrase. But dwell on it for a moment, and imagine what this would actually look like in practice. Under Trump’s proposal, any Cabinet secretary could decide that, say, a law enforcement official investigating the president had “undermined the public trust” or “failed the American people”—and fire him on the spot. In other words, Trump is calling for an end to any semblance of independence for the IRS, the FBI, the Department of Justice, or any other federal agency.
To be sure, such legislation is unlikely to pass. While the constant standing ovations for Trump from the Republican benches demonstrate the degree to which the GOP has now embraced the president, they are not yet at the point of dismantling the rule of law quite so brazenly; even if they did, the Supreme Court would be very likely to strike such a law down as unconstitutional.
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But the fact that Trump’s authoritarian demand is unlikely to be realized anytime soon does not make it unimportant. In his first State of the Union, the 45th president of the United States asked Congress for the authority to end the rule of law. And that—not Trump’s supposedly unifying policy proposals, much less his supposedly presidential ability to read a speech off a teleprompter—should be the headline of every newspaper tomorrow.
sure... the only thing that matters is whether or not your cut and paste of someone else's opinion will have the desired effect of rousing Opie and James to your side!
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expect an alky-lanche of copy/paste's today.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
For those of you who cannot actually think for yourself... applies to my friend not me
alky, you can't cross a room without assistance. how the fuck could you actually post an opinion without assistance?
face it, your team got slaughtered last night... BIGLY. trump's speech hit a number of issues that put dems back on their heels, his guests and their stories were magnificent, and the congressional black whateverthefucks, led by driving miss nacy clyburn, sat there like a bunch of miserable assholes, even when hearing that trump has put a record number of their constituents back to work. something 0linsky could never do.
CBS news -
views of speech among speech watchers:
approve 75%
disapprove: 25%
“Tonight,” he said, “I call on the congress to empower every Cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers—and to remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people.”
Under Trump’s proposal, any Cabinet secretary could decide that, say, a law enforcement official investigating the president had “undermined the public trust” or “failed the American people”—and fire him on the spot. In other words, Trump is calling for an end to any semblance of independence for the IRS, the FBI, the Department of Justice, or any other federal agency.
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WRONG
BIGLY WRONG
trump just wants fed gov "workers" (LOL) to be treated like private sector workers. do your fucking job or get fired.
exhibit A: the VA. how many more of our veterans have to die before the VA employees responsible end up on the unemployment line? a VA employee was actually convicted of a fucking FELONY, and petitioned to get her job back.
and that's just one example. the abuse within the federal agencies is legion.
the author of that piece is a liar who knows trump was not referencing mueller or any of the other shitstains who are perpetuating the russia fraud investigation.
get ready for a shitty few weeks (hopefully months) for your team, alky. trump might have finally found the drain plug at the bottom of the swamp and when he pulls it it's gonna be ugly - for democrats and their 0linsky deep state embeds.
oh, and alky -
one thing trump said last night that stood out to me re: fed gov employees.
he would like for them to show some respect to the american people, and to be held accountable to the american people.
what a novel idea!
i don't ever recall hearing that before at a SOTU speech, or any other speech for that matter. especially from a democrat.
The trollish KD posted another brilliant comment.....
Little Kennedy boy. Cute.
His stupidity know has no bounds.....
Rat the Hole missed the point again with...
trump just wants fed gov "workers" (LOL) to be treated like private sector workers.
Yeah sure..... does not to be true....Sure opens another box of tampons for rat and his family....
For those of you who cannot actually think for yourself... applies to my friend not me
So are you going with I am rubber, you are glue argument??
So slate call the ability of elected officials to reward good federal workers and remove bad federal workers Slate calls "deeply dangerous".
What Stalinist reality do they live in?
Rat hole missed the point by ignoring this...
Federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people
IOW's an employer can fire you for being untrustworthy or make a single mistake ...LOL...My guess you'd be out the door today, rat.....
Just think Dennis, if we already had that law you wouldn't be sucking off the government tit today.
From the right leaning NY Daily news.....trump had lost of BS in his claims last night....
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fact-checking-president-trump-state-union-article-1.3789120
"The visa lottery — a program that randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of our people."
Trump has blasted the so-called diversity visa lottery program as an example of what is supposedly wrong with American immigration policy.
President Donald Trump delivers his State of the Union address to a joint session of Congress on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Jan. 30, 2018.
2018 State of Union address
The program, Trump claims, allows uneducated people and terrorists to freely slip into the country, placing a burden on the American economy and public safety. But, in reality, applicants for the lottery must meet strict educational and work requirements. They also undergo rigid vetting before their applications are considered.
PolitiFact blasted this claim as "pants on fire!" false.
I'd venture a guess, CH will say this is BS and illegals need to be controlled more than they are now.....
Menstral cramps once again posts out his ass....If he only had a brain....LOL
f we already had that law you wouldn't be sucking off the government tit today.
Gee, being retired from 2 major corporations with fully funded pension plans, your comment is most amusing...What's your plan? SS and your 5000 401 k savings?????
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is an undocumented pedophile.
As I have posted numerous times....
“Since the election, we have created 2.4 million new jobs, including 200,000 new jobs in manufacturing alone.”
The math is correct, but context matters.
The economy has added about 169,000 jobs a month since the 2016 election, but that is somewhat less than the 185,000 jobs per month that the economy added over the previous seven years.
Obama never actually cut taxes in his own.
" CS
-$100HB likes to think the lost years were the friend of the middle income earner,so he has to forget how the Democrats fought against extending those tax cuts.
100 % of US HOUSE & US SENATE DEMocraps voted against the Trump Tax cut Law.
NannyState Polosi still thinks it a bill.
It's fun trolling Dennis. He's nothing if not predictable.
Slightly off topic.
Hillary Clinton: If I Had To Handle The Burns Strider Incident Again, I’d Do It Differently
She has to be the most awful person in the United States. We are indeed lucky she will never be president.
Trump trumpeted the repeal of the mandate that most everyone have insurance or pay a penalty at tax time as the elimination of the "the core of disastrous Obamacare." The penalty, he said, was "an especially cruel tax that fell mostly on Americans making less than $50,000 a year — forcing them to pay tremendous penalties simply because they could not afford government-ordered health plans." That's a big overstatement. Health insurance was actually far easier for most low income Americans to pay for than ever under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) for most lower income Americans than ever. More than half of the nearly 6 million people eligible for financial help could buy a bronze plan on Healthcare.gov without having to pay a premium for 2018.
She is so funny to watch. She has 80/80 hindsight.
Opie, we all know that the host will write that he alone has thought out all his comments. And all opponents are victims of the Fake News bullshit.
Common mis take of -$100HB
When others have money by force of government taken away to pay for others. It is not "affordable".
Watched video of NannystateNancy, she had a series of strokes last night.
As to the best way to predict the ne post is Matt Drudge.
Trump set aside the most inflammatory language he has used about North Korea and its pursuit of nuclear missiles that could reach the United States. The president was vague but threatening. “Past experience has taught us that complacency and concessions only invite aggression and provocation,” he said. “I will not repeat the mistakes of past administrations that got us into this dangerous position.”
The president also set aside inflammatory language about the Russia investigation, steering clear of it altogether. There was no repetition of his insistence that he did not collude with Russia to interfere in the election, no railing against Democrats, and no threats, veiled or otherwise, against Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the Justice Department, or the FBI.
Given how much Trump relishes the freewheeling rally stage and his equally freewheeling Twitter account, it remains somewhat jarring to see him deliver a standard speech—especially one that clocked in at an hour and 20 minutes, the second longest in history, verging into Bill Clinton-level loquaciousness. Trump has mastered some elements of the form. His reading from a teleprompter has gotten somewhat less stiff, and he reduced his many informal and awkward ad-libs. He also made liberal use of Lenny Skutniks—the invited guests used as exemplars of certain policies and traits. Many of the finest moments of the night came when the president spoke about these people.
Yet Trump struggles for the unifying, uplifting tone that presidents tend to favor in State of the Union addresses. It’s simply not a mode that suits him well.
“All of us, together, as one team, one people, and one American family,” Trump said. “We all share the same home, the same heart, the same destiny, and the same great American flag. Together, we are rediscovering the American way.”
But he followed this almost immediately with a carefully sharpened and deftly wielded jab at athletes who kneel during the national anthem, a reprise of a theme from the late summer, and he followed that with a list of fairly divisive, partisan points, including regarding judicial nominations and the Second Amendment.
Trump returned to the quest for inspiration as he closed the speech, with a long if generic paean to the American spirit. That coda helped underscore the strangeness of watching Trump in the setting of the State of the Union. Only the “USA” chant that went up in the chamber as he finished marked it as a distinctively Trumpian occasion.
Imagine that. Patriotism is now Trumpism to the deranged.
I don't like a "Stimulus package".
NOT NEEDED.
Democrats please resist that for us.
Chanting USA, really pissed of the Left.
They must have had the vapors in 1980 when USA Men's Hockey beat the Soviet Union.
Even the French were chanting "USA, USA".
Wages up in 2016, more than any lost year.
Last night was a sea change from lost years apologizing and managed decline to, well.
USA USA USA..
US Military "lowest of the low"
A proud Liberal
This speech was better than most of Trump's speeches, with effective stories---but also demagogic and hate-mongering ones--and lots of erroneous facts. I don't think it will affect policy or be remembered any more than the one a year ago. This is not a policy president. Nick Kristoff.
He will not go down as a good President. His impulsive hate-mongering provides an irresistible wall between his base and the majority of Americans. His approval ratings are not going anywhere. We will remain divided because that unfortunately he does not have the ability to unite the country.
Roger Amick
Tonight I missed Obama. What a wonderful feeling!
kd once again can't find his scrawny white ass in the dark posted...
Wages up in 2016, more than any lost year.
"After years and years of wage stagnation, we are finally seeing rising wages."
Despite this claim, American wages have been on a steady increase over the past five years. Many economists have attributed the wage hike to policies enacted under President Barack Obama.
He will not go down as a good President.
Which means he'll go down as the sixth greatest president ever.
Lincoln
Washington
Jefferson
FDR
Ronald Reagan
Donald Trump
Menstral the cramp admits to being a troll like the pig lover....too funny.
It's fun trolling Dennis
Yep, it is what you do best, be proud R's!!!!!
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Thank you President Trump. Americans are "Dreamers" too.
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Americans are "Dreamers" too.
That is the most memorable line that's for sure.
Just as I sure that I could find parts of Obama SOTU speech that Louis Farrakhan loved to the point of him taking a picture with Obama.
But I'm not going to do that because I don't hold Obama responsible for who likes or doesn't like his speech.
I'm simply not that small and petty.
I'm not surprised that CS is a David Duke lover.
Yeah, you just keep lying Roger. Everybody else knows better.
Looks like Roger actually follows David Duke.
Thanks for bringing that tweet to everyone's attention.
I'm sure no one else here follows him.
I must admit I am feeling as good as the morning after the election.
It is a beautiful day
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Roger Amick follows David Duke on twitter and is a white supremacist.
I don't follow David Duke.
Blogger Commonsense said...
Imagine that. Patriotism is now Trumpism to the deranged.
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well, to a democrat an american is a "deplorable" while an illegal alien is a "dreamer."
when your view of our nation is THAT fucked up, you're beyond help.
I don't follow David Duke.
And yet somehow you copied his twitter feed.
Roger
David Duke
@DrDavidDuke
Isn't that the guy trump denied knowing who he was???? I bet CH and menstral cramps even know who that is....Too funny that they continue to support the comedian in chief...
Commonsense said...
I don't follow David Duke.
I follow trump, does that make be a trump sycophant? Idiot...
It may make you a Trumpster.
"Americans are "Dreamers" too.
That is the most memorable line that's for sure." CS
Yep.
Higher Wages for Black and Hispanic America's and low unemployment really had the Dems stuck to thier seats.
The State of the Union vision exposed the divisions between America and un-America.
We saw a child honoring veterans, the grieving parents of children murdered by illegal aliens and a true refugee who had fled the Socialist tyranny that un-American leftists want to bring to this country. We saw small businessmen, hard workers, soldiers, police officers and an elected official shot by a Bernie Sanders supporter who wouldn’t let a murderous Socialist stop him from fighting Socialism.
We were reminded what we are capable of. And we were reminded of how much the left hates that.
President Trump’s State of the Union address was more than a great speech. It was our story. It was a reminder of who we are and what makes us great. It was the living soul of America soaring once again.
Americans, on the left and the right, are told every day who we are by an un-American media and its entertainment industry. We’ve been told it so often that it’s easy to forget who we really are.
A great speech doesn’t just score political points. It does more than move us. It wakes us up.
And President Trump’s State of the Union speech wasn’t just the greatest political address of his career. It’s the greatest American speech of the century. There have been significant un-American speeches that told us the traditions we believed in were dead, that the country we knew would never return and that we must become compliant citizens of un-America or be left behind on the wrong side of history.
President Trump succeeded by echoing the anger, the pain, the outrage and the common sense of a frustrated America. Some pundits found the echoes of this insurgency abrasive, disconcerting or vulgar. But this was not an insurgent speech. It wasn’t a call to arms. Instead it was a celebration of the changes wrought by the people’s revolution in Washington D.C. and of the growing power of a restored America.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/269181/trump-divides-americans-and-un-americans-daniel-greenfield
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