Sunday, February 18, 2018

The Rosenstein press conference - full transcript.

Obviously there are already suggestions being made that Rosenstein made statements that he didn't actually make, or that he didn't make specific statements that he actually did.

  • He did not, as some have claimed, make any statement that suggests that there are others (referenced or unnamed) who may later be indicted. There wasn't even the slightest hint of this. 
  • He did, twice in fact, make the plain spoken statement that there is no suggestion in this indictment that any American had any knowledge of the scheme. Had Rosenstein made the statement that no Americans were being "charged" in this indictment, then it would leave open the possibility of more indictments. But he didn't. He stated that no Americans had knowledge. His statement basically precludes the idea that there are Americans who are going to be charged for any sort of conspiracy here. 

Transcript:

The indictment charges 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies for committing federal crimes while seeking to interfere in the United States political system, including the 2016 presidential election.

The defendants allegedly conducted what they called information warfare against the United States, with the stated goal of spreading distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general.

According to the allegations in the indictment, 12 of the individual defendants worked at various times for a company called Internet Research Agency LLC, a Russian company based in St. Petersburg.

The other individual department, Evgeny Victorovich Posogon, funded the conspiracy through companies known as Concord Management and Consultants LLC, Concord Catering, and many affiliates and subsidiaries. The conspiracy was part of a larger operation called project Lacta.

Project Lacta included multiple components, some involving domestic audiences within the Russian Federation, and others targeting foreign audiences in multiple countries. Internet Research Agency allegedly operated through Russian shell companies. It employed hundreds of people in its online operations, ranging from creators of fictitious personas to technical and administrative support personnel, with an annual budget of millions of dollars.

Internet Research Agency was a structured organization headed by a management group and arranged into departments including graphics, search engine optimization, information technology and finance departments.

In 2014, the company established a translator project focused on the United States. In July 2016, more than 80 employees were assigned to the translator project. Two of the defendants allegedly traveled to the United States in 2014 to collect intelligence for their American influence operations. In order to hide the Russian origins of their activities, the departments allegedly purchased space on computer servers located here in the United States in order to set up a virtual private network.

The defendants allegedly used that infrastructure to establish hundreds of accounts on social media networks such as Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, making it appear that those accounts were controlled by persons located in the United States.

They used stolen or fictitious American identities, fraudulent bank accounts, and false identification documents. The defendants posed as politically and socially active Americans advocating for and against particular candidates. They established social media pages and groups to communicate with unwitting Americans. They also purchased political advertisements on social media networks. The Russians also recruited and paid real Americans to engage in political activities for political campaigns and stage political rallies.

The defendants and their co-conspirators pretended to be grassroots activists. According to the indictment, the Americans did not know they were communicating with Russians.

After the election, the defendants allegedly staged rallies to support the president-elect, while simultaneously staging rallies to protest his election. For example, the defendants organized one rally to support the president-elect and another rally to oppose him, both in New York on the same day.

On September 13 of 2017, soon after the news media reported that the special counsel’s office was investigating evidence that Russian operatives had used social media to interfere with the 2016 election, one defendant allegedly wrote, “We had a slight crisis here at work. The FBI busted our activity. So I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with my colleagues.”

The indictment includes eight criminal counts. Count one alleges a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States, by all of the defendants. The defendants allegedly conspired to defraud America by impairing the lawful functions of the Federal Election Commission, the United States Department of Justice, and the Department of State.

Those organizations of the US government are responsible for administrating federal requirements for disclosure of foreign involvement in certain domestic activities.

Count two charges conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud by Internet Research Agency and two of the individual defendants.

Counts three through eight charge aggravated identity theft by internet research agency and four individuals. Now, there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charge conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

I want to caution you that everyone charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in court. At trial, prosecutors must introduce credible evidence that is sufficient to prove each defendant guilty beyond any reasonable doubt to a unanimous jury. Special counsel’s investigation is ongoing. There will be no comments from the special counsel at this time. This indictment serves as a reminder that people are not always who they appear to be on the internet. The indictment alleges that the Russian conspirators want to promote discord in the United States and undermine public confidence and democracy. We must not allow them to succeed.

The Department of Justice will continue to work cooperatively with other intelligence agencies and with the Congress to defend our nation against similar current and future efforts. I want to thank the federal agents and prosecutors who are working on this case for their exceptional service and I’ll be happy to take a few questions.

Is there concern that this influenced the outcome of the election?

What I have identified for you are the allegations in the indictment. There are no allegations in the indictment of any effect on the outcome of the election.

On page four of the indictment, paragraph six, it specifically talks about the Trump campaign, saying that defendants communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign. My question is later in the indictment, campaign officials are referenced not by their name, by campaign official one or two or three. Were campaign officials cooperative, or were they duped? What was their relationship with this?

There’s no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge, and the nature of the scheme was the kept defendants took extraordinary steps to make it appear they were ordinary American political activists, even going so far as to base their activities on a virtual private network here in the United States, so if anybody traced it back to the first jump, they appeared to be American.

Have you had any assurances from the Russians they will provide these individuals for prosecution?

There’s been no communication with the Russians about this. We’ll follow the ordinary process of seeking cooperation and extradition. Thank you very much.

21 comments:

Commonsense said...

No, you never mind the facts. WP has assured us there's "more to come".

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I posted that yesterday.

You missed this.

Mr. Trump, you told the Russians you'd be running for president in Moscow in November 2013—and indeed it was that declaration that led to the anti-U.S. campaign in early 2014. Cohen had made clear by mid-2013 you were running; you confirmed it to the Agalarovs and Yulya Alferova.

2/ In Spring 2013, The New York Post interviewed Michael Cohen about the bevy of presidential polls you had put in the field. Cohen said, in answer to questions about whether this meant you were running for president, "Well, we're not taking these polls to stow them in a drawer."
3/ Immediately thereafter—mere weeks—Russia suddenly put in a bid for the 2013 Miss Universe pageant by wooing you face-to-face at the Miss USA pageant in Las Vegas in June. The Russian delegation needed mere hours to convince you Russia should leapfrog 19 nations for the honor.
4/ The Agalarovs, Ike Kaveladze (later at Trump Tower in June 2016), Yulya Alferova, and Artem Klyushin made up the Russian delegation, which overpaid you for the Miss Universe pageant by giving you $20 million, which helped keep the pageant from bankruptcy, according to reports.
5/ Your own tweets reveal you were also promised a meeting with Putin, which you'd been seeking for years. Yet by the time you arrived in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in November, Putin had backed out—because your presidential ambitions were by then clear to the Russians.

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Mr. Trump, you told the Russians you'd be running for president in Moscow in November 2013—and indeed it was that declaration that led to the anti-U.S. campaign in early 2014. Cohen had made clear by mid-2013 you were running; you confirmed it to the Agalarovs and Yulya Alferova.

2/ In Spring 2013, The New York Post interviewed Michael Cohen about the bevy of presidential polls you had put in the field. Cohen said, in answer to questions about whether this meant you were running for president, "Well, we're not taking these polls to stow them in a drawer."
3/ Immediately thereafter—mere weeks—Russia suddenly put in a bid for the 2013 Miss Universe pageant by wooing you face-to-face at the Miss USA pageant in Las Vegas in June. The Russian delegation needed mere hours to convince you Russia should leapfrog 19 nations for the honor.
4/ The Agalarovs, Ike Kaveladze (later at Trump Tower in June 2016), Yulya Alferova, and Artem Klyushin made up the Russian delegation, which overpaid you for the Miss Universe pageant by giving you $20 million, which helped keep the pageant from bankruptcy, according to reports.
5/ Your own tweets reveal you were also promised a meeting with Putin, which you'd been seeking for years. Yet by the time you arrived in Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant in November, Putin had backed out—because your presidential ambitions were by then clear to the Russians.
6/ Cohen—childhood friend of ex-Russian mobster Felix Sater—of course had every opportunity to communicate to the Russians what he'd already implied to The New York Post about you running. Even if he hadn't, you communicated it directly to your new business partners in Moscow.
7/ Yulya Alferova tweeted to you shortly after you left Moscow that she knew you'd make a great president. It was a topic you'd discussed with the Russians in November 2013 in Moscow as they were developing for you—with Putin's blessing—a wildly lucrative Trump Tower Moscow deal.
8/ We know this because Putin sent to your pageant—in his place—his permits man, Vlad Kozhin. He also sent his banker—head of SVB—to host you.

And of course Aras Agalarov was and is the Kremlin's real estate developer. So Putin backed out but gave you those three men in return.
9/ The result, according to Emin Agalarov in a Forbes interview, was you signed a letter-of-intent in Moscow in November 2013 for Trump Tower Moscow—using funding from Putin's banker (announced 10 days later), land from Putin's developer, and permit approval from his permits man.
10/ As Putin was—from a distance—arranging this lucrative deal for you, you were confirming the signals Cohen had already sent far and wide: you would run for president. Yulya Alferova, a member of your Moscow entourage, left your company in Moscow with no doubt about your plans.
11/ Within a matter of *weeks* the Russian operation had started up.

You, Don and Ivanka remained in regular telephonic and in-person contact with your new business partners—the Agalarovs, Putin's developers—during early 2014, as the Russian machine began its attack on America.
12/ All this is *confirmable* by your tweets; the social media accounts of your Russian entourage; public statements by your own entourage; interviews given by you and others to major media; and statements you made privately to your friends at the time. There are pictures galore.
13/ Indeed, Aras Agalarov publicly announced in February of *2017* (not a typo)—via a major Russian construction website—that the letter-of-intent you signed with him in November 2013 became inactive only *after* you ascended to the presidency, as you now "couldn't do any deals."

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...


14/ Mind you, this is separate from Schiller confirming that a Russian in your Moscow entourage offered you prostitutes. And hey, guess what? Artem Klyushin—a Russian in your entourage—had a best friend named Konstantin Rykov. What does Rykov do? He runs Moscow's largest brothel.
15/ Fortunately, there's no evidence Rykov and Klyushin worked together to help elect you.

Actually, let's scratch that—as before the Buzzfeed dossier ever came into the public sphere, Rykov bragged publicly, on social media, that he and Klyushin worked together to elect you.
16/ Rykov's specific boast—which included facts that would later end up in the dossier, but which he couldn't have known at the time unless he had access to classified U.S. intelligence—was that the plan to aid you in becoming president began, in Russia, sometime in 2011 or 2012.
17/ All this is just the "Cliffs Notes" version of a mountain of documentary evidence suggesting the Russians knew you were running for president well before Americans formally did—and that they began their operations in 2014 fully aware that by mid-2015 you would announce a run.
18/ It's fortunate you only watch Fox News—as from watching that media outlet you would've had no idea that these events have been traced by both major media *and* independent journalists. And it's from within that ignorance that you claim Russia's 2014 actions are exculpatory.
19/ Neither Bob Mueller nor major-media journalists like Luke Harding are tracing your involvement with the Russians as beginning in 2015—when you announced your presidential run. They are seeing evidence that in 2013—and even before—you had let Russia know your political plans.
20/ It will be found—as it's the only theory of the case consistent with the facts—that it was your statement to Russian nationals that you'd run for president in 2016 that was the proximate cause of their decision to wage a massive cyber-campaign explicitly directed to aid you.
CONCLUSION/ *No one* in the intel community confirms your claim—or Pence's—that the election results weren't affected by Russia. And we already *know* from macroanalysis that your hijinks with Giuliani to coerce Comey into re-opening Clinton's case *did* affect the results. {end}

Commonsense said...

Oh look Roger is colluding with the Russians.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Mr. Trump, you told the Russians you'd be running for president in Moscow in November 2013—and indeed it was that declaration that led to the anti-U.S. campaign in early 2014. Cohen had made clear by mid-2013 you were running; you confirmed it to the Agalarovs and Yulya Alferova.

2/ In Spring 2013, The New York Post interviewed Michael Cohen about the bevy of presidential polls you had put in the field. Cohen said, in answer to questions about whether this meant you were running for president, "Well, we're not taking these polls to stow them in a drawer."

He posted 13 tweets this morning. He lied when he claimed that the Russian intervention was started before he was running for President. The Russians knew that he was going to run for President in 2013.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Roger is presenting the truth.

Commonsense said...

He didn't lie. It did start before he was running for president.

You are confusing "telling someone you're going to run for president" with "running for president".

They are two distinct things. Trump didn't "run for president" until the summer of 2015 when he descended the staircase at Trump tower a announced his candidacy.

You need to not be so reckless with the truth.

Anonymous said...


Roger AmickFebruary 18, 2018 at 2:05 PM
Roger is presenting the truth."

Someone forgot a ID switch

Loretta said...

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Roger is nothing but a two-bit troll.

C.H. Truth said...

Roger believes everything he us told...

Except from those who actually know.

Loretta said...

There's something wrong with him.

wphamilton said...

So you're saying "it doesn't count" if a Russian campaign to help Trump started before Trump officially declared as a candidate?

I think what Roger is saying, and he'd have a pretty good point, is that a Russian campaign to damage trust in our elections began before (or as) the campaigns started, and utilized whatever tools presented themselves as their campaign progressed. Trump would be a tool in that progression. Those dates are pretty much irrelevant to whether Trump colluded with the Russians and their illegal campaign.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

wp understood what I am thinking.

Russian campaign to damage trust in our elections began before (or as) the campaigns started, and utilized whatever tools presented themselves as their campaign progressed. Trump would be a tool in that progression. Those dates are pretty much irrelevant to whether Trump colluded with the Russians and their illegal campaign.

Trump's excuse for the 2013 start is irrelevant.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

I'm thinking above your ability to understand me.

Commonsense said...

wphamilton said...
So you're saying "it doesn't count" if a Russian campaign to help Trump started before Trump officially declared as a candidate?


No, I'm saying Trump didn't lie.

But while were on the subject, I don't think it made much of a diffrence who was running for president to the Russians.

Their plan was disruption and thanks to the media and the immature, sore loser Democrats, they spectacularly succeeded.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

A former top aide to Donald Trump's presidential campaign will plead guilty to fraud-related charges within days — and has made clear to prosecutors that he would testify against Paul Manafort, the lawyer-lobbyist who once managed the campaign.

The change of heart by Trump's former deputy campaign manager Richard Gates, who had pleaded not guilty after being indicted in October on charges similar to Manafort's, was described in interviews by people familiar with the case.

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"Rick Gates is going to change his plea to guilty,'' said a person with direct knowledge of the new developments, adding that the revised plea will be presented in federal court in Washington "within the next few days.''

That individual and others who discussed the matter spoke on condition of anonymity, citing a judge's gag order restricting comments about the case to the news media or public.

The noose around the neck of The President is getting tighter every single day

Anonymous said...

The noose around the neck of The President is getting tighter every single day. Crippled Alky.

Great, and then what. Let's grant you every belief you have. Someone has to move to remove him. Who is that?

Anonymous said...

Roger, you hadthepresidrent out of office after one year, forgive me for pointing that out.

wphamilton said...

He (Trump) did lie. He publicly asked the Russians to disseminate the illegally acquired Clinton emails. Was Trump too dumb to know that it was Russian trolls that were spreading the stories, when just about everyone else knew it? Perhaps. Did he think he was just being cute and wasn't really serious, maybe.

But the fact that he put it out there, asking the Russians for the 30,000 emails, proves that he knew that the interference was going on during the election, and was targeted against his opponent (Clinton), which gives lie to his tweeted claim.