So far, 2018 looks an awful lot like 2017 — at least when it comes to the broadcast networks’ hostile approach to Donald Trump. A Media Research Center analysis of the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts in January and February found ten times more negative comments about the President than positive statements, and found the ongoing Russia investigation once again swamped all other topics.Keeping in mind that the Russia investigation was listed as the 17th most important subject by the American voter in a recent survey, it's amazing that the media still thinks this is the subject that they need to concentrate on. I have to wonder out loud what will happen once the Russian investigation is completed and the media is forced to move along from the story (as the American public obviously already has for the most part).
For this study, MRC analysts looked at all 505 evening news stories that mentioned President Trump or his administration in January and February. Out of 851 total minutes of airtime devoted to the administration, the networks spent almost one-fourth of it (204 minutes, or 24%) on the Russia investigation, eclipsing other major topics such as the economy, immigration reform, and even the gun debate.
I have to go back to a comment made by our resident "genius" who suggested that we need to trust the media, and especially anonymous sources because those anonymous sources are sometime right. The problem is that these sources are hardly ever proven "right". They are just assumed to be right unless otherwise not proven to be wrong. Most of what they claim (chaos at the White House) is unprovable. People willing to be quoted will make statements that contradict the anonymous source, but it's simply assumed by the left that those are the people who are lying... and that some anonymous source get's it right. (try that in a court of law, or organized debate).
The reality is that when some anonymous sources are proven wrong, as they have been on many major issues including the Comey testimony, people leaving the White House who never left, and promises of major breakthroughs in the Mueller investigation that never happen, it becomes hard (or at least it should) to continue to believe them.
Between the 90% negative coverage, the fake anonymous sourced news, and the fundamentally transparent bias, the media has dug their own hole. The odd thing is that they don't really seem to care. They are seemingly willing to ruin the reputation of the media, present and future, in their quest to take down the President.
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But, ya know, it's Trump.
“This tweet is a great example of your paranoia, constant misrepresentation of the facts, and increased anxiety and panic (rightly so) about the Mueller investigation. When will those in Congress and the 30 percent of Americans who still support you realize you are a charlatan?”
— Former CIA Director John Brennan, on Twitter., responding to President Trump’s accusation that President Obama launched Russia investigation to help Hillary Clinton.
YESTERDAY
Why Sam Nunberg May Want to Reconsider
Lawfare: “It is an understatement to say that Sam Nunberg is playing with fire.
“Nunberg, a longtime Trump adviser and former campaign aide who is on the outs with the president, went on a bizarre rampage of media appearances Monday afternoon in which he mocked Special Counsel Robert Mueller, declared his intention to not cooperate before the grand jury in the Russia investigation, and appeared to speculate wildly on President Trump’s involvement, or lack thereof, in wrongdoing during the campaign…
“The point is that federal prosecutors have robust powers to deal with recalcitrant witnesses, and special prosecutors in high-stakes matters involving the president of the United States have particular incentives not to tolerate contumacious conduct on the part of witnesses they subpoena.
Nunberg may think it would be ‘funny if they arrested me.’ We suspect he’ll find it less so if and when ‘they’ actually do.”
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TODAY
Nunberg Backs Down Saying He Will Testify
Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg “spent much of Monday promising to defy a subpoena from special counsel Robert Mueller, even throwing down the challenge to ‘arrest me,’ then backed off his defiance by saying he would probably cooperate in the end,” the AP reports.
“Nunberg said he was angry over Mueller’s request to have him appear in front of a grand jury and turn over thousands of e-mails and other communications with other ex-officials, among them his mentor Roger Stone. But he predicted that, in the end, he’d find a way to comply.”
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
YESTERDAY james posts spam of something
TODAY james posts it's no longer true
ROFLMFAO !!!
Has he apologized for his Reverend Billy Graham lie yet?
and yes Brennan should be investigated for his illegal actions and Obama cover-ups. Worse than Watergate !!!
hey are seemingly willing to ruin the reputation of the media, present and future, in their quest to take down the President.
Conspiracyholics Anonymous might have meetings in Minneapolis.
1. We admitted we were powerless over Donald Trump that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of Roger as we understood Him.
4 Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to Roger, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects
of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons named James we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them him.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10.Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it to Roger
11.Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with Roger Gods we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12.Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to Conspiracyholics, and to practice these principles in all our blog posts.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
When I have time to reply to the rrb rant of lies and distortions, his racist fat ass won't be able to breathe.
March 6, 2018 at 9:38 AM
tick tock, alky.
TICK TOCK.
take my breath away alky. let's see what you got.
oh look...
the alky ripped off the kos-suckers:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/23/1551354/-Trumps-Anonymous-a-12-Step-Program
I didn't look on Kos. I did that on my own. Unlike you,I have an operating brain.
I tried to post the list of sites I visited.KOS is not on it. Nor is hotaire or Info World.
I'm going to c/p to word and shred your pile of lies and shit.
One day at a time, Jimmy.
I will be your sponsor and help you follow the steps.
it's word for fucking word, alky. with a couple of minor cosmetic changes to make it relevant to this blog:
Trumps Anonymous 12 Steps:
1.We admitted we were powerless over Trump - that our lives had become unmanageable.
Well, you certainly behaved as if you were powerless, so you might as well admit it now.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
You already turned your will and lives over to Trump, so you’re in practice. This step should be easy.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
Supporting Trump is a pretty big character defect, but he’s a forgiving God so you can probably trust Him with a task this size.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Roger Amick said...
I'm going to c/p to word and shred your pile of lies and shit.
really rog?
i'm still waiting on THIS:
Blogger Roger Amick said...
When I have time to reply to the rrb rant of lies and distortions, his racist fat ass won't be able to breathe.
March 6, 2018 at 9:38 AM
tick tock, alky.
TICK TOCK.
take my breath away alky. let's see what you got.
I wish I had thought of this.
o one will be injured by you apologizing for supporting Trump (except for Trump himself, who’s got a pretty thin skin), so this one’s going to have to cover everyone you already listed in (9). But we’re going to make it easier on you. You all get to divide up the list, and that way (mentally dividing 300,000,000 by 13,000,000) you’ll only have to apologize to 23.07 people each. The fact that they mostly live in urban areas will help, and they’re bound to be more forgiving after the triumph that will be the Democratic National Convention.
Note: mass emails don’t count, you are going to have to go door-to-door and apologize in person. You can fulfill your obligation by throwing a BBQ for all 23.07 (find someone with a very young baby), but you must (a) first ascertain that no one you invited has already been apologized to – no fair stealing from anyone else’s list – and (b) serve really great food, so that people know you are sincere.
Second note: if one of the people to whom you must apologize is your wife, buy her flowers as well. She’s had to put up with a lot lately. Flowers always help.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
I wish I had thought of this.
HA! you wish you had thought of ANYTHING.
you are going to have to go door-to-door and apologize in person.
or i could just drop a "go fuck yourself" #MAGA!!! note in everyone's mailbox.
we have nothing to apologize for alky. you assholes otoh, after 8 long miserable years of 0linsky, have MUCH to apologize for.
https://coldheartedtruthlegacy.blogspot.com/2018/03/recovery-complete.html#links
Blogger Roger Amick said...
https://coldheartedtruthlegacy.blogspot.com/2018/03/recovery-complete.html#links
good hiding spot, alky.
nobody will ever find it there.
CH opined "Keeping in mind that the Russia investigation was listed as the 17th most important subject by the American voter in a recent survey, it's amazing that the media still thinks this is the subject that they need to concentrate on"
Probably they're more interested in the 75% who are serious or "very serious" about the investigation. According to the same survey that you got that "17th on the list" from. I think it's you who are out of touch, not CNN.
wp, at some point even the most casual political observer is going to say something like -
"russia investigation???"
"is THAT THING still going on???"
"they haven't found anything YET???"
"WTF???"
CNN hasn't been able to ask a question at a white house press briefing in 3 days. they're being treated in accordance with their pitiful ratings - like QVC.
I think it's you who are out of touch, not CNN.
Is that why CNN television ratings are in between the History Channel and something called the Investigation Discovery network? Versus FOX, which is rated first with over double the viewership...
Because they are so in touch with the people?
Gary Cohn to Resign as Trump’s Top Economic Adviser
Gary D. Cohn, President Trump’s top economic adviser, plans to resign, becoming the latest in a series of high-profile departures from the Trump administration, White House officials said on Tuesday.
The officials insisted there was no single factor behind the departure of Mr. Cohn, who heads the National Economic Council. But his decision to leave came after he seemed poised to lose an internal struggle amid a Wild West-style process over Mr. Trump’s plan to impose large tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.
“Gary has been my chief economic adviser and did a superb job in driving our agenda, helping to deliver historic tax cuts and reforms and unleashing the American economy once again,” Mr. Trump said in a statement to The New York Times. “He is a rare talent, and I thank him for his dedicated service to the American people.”
Mr. Cohn is expected to leave in the coming weeks. He will join a string of recent departures by senior White House officials, including Mr. Trump’s communications director and a powerful staff secretary.
This occurred just after Trump said he attracted only the best people for his cabinet and work in the White House
Per the racist rodent bastard, this is hatred of Trump.
rrb,
that went on Facebook and got almost 100 likes in a few hours
If no one is watching CNN, why do you give a damn.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
rrb,
that went on Facebook and got almost 100 likes in a few hours
ok, so you've befriended a hundred or so drunks on fakebook.
i'll allow you all the bragging rights you want on that one, alky.
you're their pied piper.
Reporting this is media bias according to our out of touch host.
He will join a string of recent departures by senior White House officials, including Mr. Trump’s communications director and a powerful staff secretary.
My followers are not alcoholics.
If you have any, they are racist republican bastards too.
Actually Roger....
I didn't bring up CNN. WP did.
Do you have any medications that help you pay better attention?
Friends · 505
https://www.facebook.com/roger.amick
Gary Cohn to Resign as Trump’s Top Economic Adviser
thanks for yet another story we've already seen/heard/read.
what are you, trolling for john oliver's gig on HBO?
"this is roger 'the alky' amick bringing you last week tonight on the CHT blog."
"take it away, rog..."
You are the one on drugs. I take Prograf and Lyrica. Two Lyrica and 5 Prograf, anti-rejection medications i will take the rest of my life.
Your post attacked the media, outside of Fox, so CNN is part of the media in your mindless claim that they are all part of a massive conspiracy to get Trump.
and btw rog, we all new cohn would scoot back over to government sachs just as soon as his majesty and royal highness donald trump announced the tariffs.
not a well kept secret there sunshine.
My cell phone vibrated like crazy.
It wasn't CNN
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Friends · 505
https://www.facebook.com/roger.amick
and just think...
if CH hadn't blocked your psychotic ass, you'd have 506.
and no alky, i'm not on fakebook. and i don't twit/tweet.whatever the fuck it is. mature thoughtful individuals like me tend to value their privacy, not piss it away on social media. or with alexa eavesdropping on your ever move. hell, i almost bought a 'nest' thermostat until google "let's be evil" bought them. same with 'ring' now that jeff bozo's bought it.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
Reporting this is media bias according to our out of touch host.
He will join a string of recent departures by senior White House officials, including Mr. Trump’s communications director and a powerful staff secretary.
0linsky had some turnover alky. all presidents do. but i don't recall his being focused on with a lead sentence like -
"He will join a string of recent departures by senior White House officials..."
every fucking report on this president, this administration and this white house has a ring of negativity to it. some subtle, most not. it's almost like sport with these media "democracy drowns in bullshit" fucksticks. that's the point.
90% NEGATIVE coverage alky. documented and demonstrable. you want more trump? this is how you get more trump. the media needs a 12 step program to get rid of their addiction to 0linsky's man gravy.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
My cell phone vibrated like crazy.
did it make your walker dance across the room?
Your post attacked the media
My post stated a fact. That 90% of the coverage on Trump is negative and about a quarter of the coverage on Trump is about Russia.
The concept that you see reporting facts as an "attack" is telling.
Media bias
The Wall Street Journal
POLITICS
Gary Cohn Resigns as White House Economic Adviser After Losing Tariffs Fight
This White House and President are the most bizarre in history. The media is telling the truth. You believe that the facts are attacking.
You (assume) that the news on current events in regards to the President and his tweeting about foreign affairs and the ongoing investigation into the Russian intervention into the election of Trump is biased towards the President. And the fact that Clinton lost according to you, is the only reason we are opposed to the policies of the President.
I speak out in opposition is because he's dangerous to the county. He knows little about governing, foreign affairs and the tariffs. The Wall Street Journal opinion said that " He doesn't know what he's talking about. "
He's incompetent.
You spent 8 years complaining about the lack of experience by Obama. You ignore that the President has no governmental experience. The tax law was written completely by the congress, with little or no input.
Infrastructure is DOA.
The congress appropriated $120 million for anti intervention into the election in 2018 or 2020.
You spent 8 years complaining about the lack of experience by Obama.
It showed.
ACA was a disaster.
The Stimulus was a failure.
The economy sucked, or barely moved forward.
Race relations got worst.
Crime got worse.
Poverty increased.
Obama lost over 1000 seats for the Democrats while he was President.
Perhaps Trumps legacy will be no better. Perhaps the economy will implode. Perhaps the GOP will get thumped. Perhaps he will even lose reelection.
I have no idea. But for now... things are doing pretty well for those of us who do not live exclusively in the CNN/Wapo/NYT world.
That's all that matters.
CH opined ... "That 90% of the coverage on Trump is negative and about a quarter of the coverage on Trump is about Russia.
The concept that you see reporting facts as an "attack" is telling."
And he doesn't see the irony of that. Heh. Whining about factual reporting as "negative", thinking it's all just attacking Trump, and then getting on a high horse about Roger calling his "reporting facts" about media coverage an attack. LOL.
Trump IS negative, CH. He is a negative person, and a net loss. His policies are negative: keep the nasty people OUT of the USA, tear down government services, even his motto MAGA is basically negative because to Trump it means America is NOT great. His campaign was negative, and he personally is constantly badmouthing enemies, employees, friends, allies ... Practically everything Trump does is a negative.
When you cover someone that negative, it's going to be negative. 10% of the coverage of Trump NOT being negative is pretty generous.
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
Actually Roger.... I didn't bring up CNN. WP did.
He says that while 3 blog posts down, on this very page ... Saturday, March 3, 2018 Perhaps it's CNN that has their priorities wrong? where he addresses this very same subject.
Is it all so much about "smack the other guy" now, that facts and true history have no more bearing any more? You realize, you gave Roger a "one-up" by doing that right?
They have not spent $0.00
The Obama administration is irrelevant in this discussion as related to the alleged political bias my the MSM.
Stormy Daniels has filed a suit because the agreement was invalid.
The hypocrisy of the Republican party, the party of family unity and the sanctity of marriage, has ignored the fact that he fucked other women outside of marriage.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
The Obama administration is irrelevant in this discussion as related to the alleged political bias my the MSM.
on the contrary, nothing could be more relevant, except perhaps the media's fawning over hillary during the campaign.
in fact, the contrast is both striking and perfect. with 0linsky as president and hillary as a candidate the media gushed and fawned and tongue bathed and throne sniffed every single day. with trump, the pendulum has swung just as far as it possibly could've in the opposite direction and it shows. in fact it seems like the various media outlets are almost tripping over each other to present the most negative trump coverage on a minute by minute basis. the only thing missing is benny hill theme music.
skeets could do no wrong, except as CH has pointed out without even trying there was much that asshole did wrong. and he got away with ALL of it, not a negative word was spoken. except for fox news. so what does skeets do? declares war on fox news. hilariously funny that what pissed him off was only having 98.9% favorable coverage.
so yes alky, the comparison is entirely appropriate. you just don't like it because as with all things that are true and embarrassing to democrats, it makes you very uncomfortable.
The hypocrisy of the Republican party, the party of family unity and the sanctity of marriage, has ignored the fact that he fucked other women outside of marriage.
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now that you mention it, the progressive democrat mayor of nashville DID resign today over fucking her bodyguard and paying him overtime for the pleasure. to the tune of 3 felonies.
you focus on the rumor mill alky. we'll focus on what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
I was not talking to the racist rodent bastard.
He believes that Trump had sex outside of marriage.
It's well documented that Trump fucked women outside of marriage in at least his first two.
A famous issue of the New York Post in 1990 featured a quote from Maples plastered across its front page—“Best sex I ever had!” referring to Donald—while he was still married to Ivana. Trump famously pushed the story forward and called the tabloids to make sure his name stayed in the papers. At the time, he was a prominent New York real estate figure, but not known for much more than that.
In a recent memoir, titled Raising Trump, Ivana refers to the mistress as “freaking Marla.”
Marla Maples (1993-1999)
Stephanie Clifford, the adult film performer known as "Stormy Daniels" who received $130,000 from Donald Trump's personal attorney just days before the 2016 election, filed suit in California on Tuesday asking a court to throw out a non-disclosure agreement preventing her from discussing an alleged affair with Mr. Trump.
In the court filing, Clifford claims that she began an "intimate relationship" with Mr. Trump in 2006 that ended the next year. In October 2016, she accepted $130,000 from Mr. Trump's longtime attorney Michael Cohen in exchange for her silence about the alleged relationship, according to the filing.
Cohen acknowledged the payment in a statement in February but claimed that neither the Trump campaign nor the Trump Organization "was a party to the transaction." He did not immediately reply to a request for comment about the lawsuit Tuesday evening.
Clifford asked the court on Tuesday to nullify the agreement, claiming Mr. Trump never signed the document.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
More bias in the media is overwhelming evidence that the candidate Trump was not guilty of collusion or obstruction of justice .
Ok. So I'm full of shit .
More turmoil despite the fact that lots of qualified people can't wait to work in his West Wing .
For many longtime Republican policy wonks and senior aides on Capitol Hill, Gary Cohn served as a touchstone. He was seen as the rare Trump administration official who did a good job of navigating substantive policy questions as well as the sometimes opaque decision-making process in President Donald Trump’s White House.
But with his resignation announcement Tuesday, Cohn joins the long list of policy experts who have departed in recent months — a brain drain that leaves the president with fewer people around him who know how to get policy made, and how to stop Trump from moving ahead with unworkable ideas.
Some worry the White House could return to the uncontrolled days immediately following Trump’s inauguration, when many West Wing jobs were still unfilled and former strategist Steve Bannon was writing executive orders with policy adviser Stephen Miller, including the disastrous travel ban that was ultimately knocked down by multiple courts.
“The number of bad ideas that have come though this White house that were thankfully killed dead — there are too many to count,” a White House official told POLITICO. “With Gary gone, I just think, from a policy perspective, it means disaster.”
Cohn’s resignation comes a month after staff secretary Rob Porter stepped down amid domestic abuse allegations. Porter, a Harvard Law graduate, had emerged as the White House’s lead policy coordinator, corralling the president’s often-divided advisers in a bid to reach consensus.
White House officials were feeling the loss of Porter in recent days, when Trump announced his plans to move forward with steep tariffs on steel and aluminum imports before key legal analysis had been completed. One White House official said that “never would have happened” if Porter — who had for months been organizing weekly trade policy meetings with Cabinet secretaries and senior aides — was still in the administration.
Porter had worked closely with Cohn to persuade Trump to narrow the tariffs. But Cohn told White House staffers on Tuesday that the tariff proposal is not the main reason for his decision to leave.
In addition to the high-profile resignations of Cohn and Porter, other White House policy experts have also stepped down, including Domestic Policy Council Deputy Director Paul Winfree, NEC Deputy Director Jeremy Katz and technology policy adviser Grace Koh.
Cohn’s upcoming departure leaves the National Economic Council, which under Trump has become the White House’s policy powerhouse, without a permanent leader. Several other senior officials on the NEC are separately weighing whether to step down in the coming weeks, according to multiple administration officials and outside advisers to the president.
Many on the NEC had already been considering leaving in the coming months, likely sometime in the spring or summer. In the wake of Cohn’s departure, NEC staffers, many of whom are deeply loyal to Cohn, were discussing speeding up their exits.
“People are thinking, ‘Maybe I won’t be here as long as I thought I’d be,’” the NEC official said.
Meanwhile, rumors were circulating on the NEC on Tuesday that Trump could be tempted to tap trade adviser and economic nationalist Peter Navarro to replace Cohn. That decision would likely be met with universal opposition from NEC staffers.
“No one on this NEC will work for that guy,” one NEC official said.
But White House officials said it remains unclear who will replace Cohn, and the issue is still under active discussion in the West Wing.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
ah, politico.
so much bullshit, so many unnamed sources.
good job alky. but i must tell you, sometimes i roll my eyes so hard at your copy/pastes i'm afraid they'll stay that way.
Ok. So I'm full of shit
finally! the alky collides head on with the truth.
better late than never, gin blossom.
.
Marla Maples (1993-1999)
newsweak, alky? they're about out of business, you know.
and always share the link you stole alky. always.
http://www.newsweek.com/how-many-times-trump-cheated-wives-780550
newsweak, alky? they're about out of business, you know.
And you know that is about as relevant as you ......LOL
winning BIGLY.
Private-sector jobs grow by 235,000 in February, vs 195,000 expected: ADP/Moody's Analytics
Private payrolls rose by 235,000 in February, well above Wall Street estimates of 195,000, according to a report from ADP and Moody's Analytics.
Growth actually decelerated slightly, as January posted an upwardly revised 244,000 from the initially reported 234,000.
The Moody's/ADP report precedes the more closely watched Labor Department nonfarm payrolls count, with economists expecting that number to be around 200,000.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/07/adp-us-private-sector-february-2018.html
MSM mostly ignores Stoneman Douglas High School student Kyle Kashuv
Guess he's articulate and doesn't fit their narrative.
Check out his twitter
https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv
Good thing we have FOX NEWS and students like this. (cue the "faux news" bs)
For example a posted re-tweet:
"ALX ✘ 🇺🇸 @TheALX
David Hogg claims he wants to make a change, but when the White House called him, he hung up on the President and bragged about it. @KyleKashuv seems like he will have more productive talks with @realDonaldTrump on solving this complex problem. Keep it up Kyle!"
Guess he's articulate and doesn't fit their narrative.
he's pro-2A. nuff said.
David Hogg claims he wants to make a change, but when the White House called him, he hung up on the President and bragged about it.
hogg's dad is supposedly retired FBI. if true i guess the turd didn't fall too far from the asshole.
it's ironic that when a tragedy occurs that requires reasoned thought and articulate discussion all the left can ever muster are one-trick-pony preening crisis actors
The resignation of President Trump's National Economic Council head, Gary Cohn, on Tuesday sent Wall Street traders rushing to hit the “sell” button as fears of a trade war escalated. The market was closed when the news of Cohn’s imminent departure broke, but traders sent the Dow sliding Wednesday morning.
The Dow fell over 300 points as the opening bell rang Wednesday before pulling back to about 200 points down. The S&P; 500 lost about 0.5 percent. It's a significant move, although nowhere near the worst the markets have seen in recent weeks. In February, the Dow dropped more than 1,100 points in a single day as investors worried the economy might start to overheat from the boost from the tax cuts. Now there's a very different concern: a trade war.
And he doesn't see the irony of that. Heh. Whining about factual reporting as "negative", thinking it's all just attacking Trump, and then getting on a high horse about Roger calling his "reporting facts" about media coverage an attack.
You and Roger both love the concept of an "attack". It doesn't have to be an "attack" to be wrong.
Trump IS negative, CH. He is a negative person, and a net loss.
Well that is certainly an opinion. Many people find modern day liberalism and the constant identity politics to be extremely negative. It seems that everyone is passionate about who and what they dislike/hate.
It's not about the environment, it's about going after businesses.
It's not about gun control, it's about calling NRA representatives murderers.
It's not about immigration policies, it's about accusing people of racism.
Liberals don't seem to be able to become engaged in a cause without it being a fight against some "bad person".
I know many, many liberals. So easy to get them red faced and raged. They are overwhelmed and consumed by the hate. Roger is a typical example of someone who is literally "obsessed" with hating Trump. How many times does he post the same diatribe? Why does he do so when nobody cares? It's like a therapy with him.
Perhaps some people just want to go to work, not have to worry about their jobs. Perhaps some people want to go hunting with a rifle and not be called a murderer. Perhaps people want to go to church and not be called a bigot.
Sure, WP... there is negativity on either side. I am not arguing that the negativity is "only" on the left. But for people who live and die around how much they hate Trump, it's a pretty obvious "projection" to blame the negativity on the person they hate.
A famous issue of the New York Post in 1990 featured a quote from Maples plastered across its front page—“Best sex I ever had!” referring to Donald—while he was still married to Ivana. Trump famously pushed the story forward and called the tabloids to make sure his name stayed in the papers. At the time, he was a prominent New York real estate figure, but not known for much more than that.
In a recent memoir, titled Raising Trump, Ivana refers to the mistress as “freaking Marla.”
Marla Maples (1993-1999)
http://www.newsweek.com/how-many-times-trump-cheated-wives-780550
He cheated multiple times, and the racist rodent bastard isn't concerned. But when the mayor of Nashville admitted to an affair with her body guard, holy shit, he was outraged.
Hypocritical is Jimmy
Are these examples of conservatives allowing their dislikes to presume silly motives?
"It's not about the environment, it's about going after businesses.
It's not about gun control, it's about calling NRA representatives murderers.
It's not about immigration policies, it's about accusing people of racism.
Liberals don't seem to be able to become engaged in a cause without it being a fight against some "bad person"."
Liberals are more concerned about the environment than about the health of businesses. They aren't using it as a pretext to "go after" businesses. It may seem that way to you because your priorities are the opposite; you're more concerned about the businesses. And because the sad fact is, businesses (in America) are the greatest offenders against the environment.
Take a step back from it and look at your list: you're guilty of the same thing that you accuse "liberals" of. You're projecting hateful motivations onto their philosophies, because you disagree with their politics. Looking at it dispassionately, you know that those motivations aren't true.
Trump though, you cannot deny his negativity. It's not a matter of simple dislike - half of his tweets are badmouthing someone, or threatening, or complaining. Cold objective fact.
Half? I follow @realDonaldTrump and if I had to guess a full 90% of the tweets are either promoting his agenda and are PR tweets in general while only about 10% is of a negative variety.
And yes I find some of those tweets inappropriate for a president and counter-productive.
But exaggerating the number doesn't make it a cold-hearted fact.
Nor does it excuse the hysteria and dishonesty of some media outlets.
He cheated multiple times, and the racist rodent bastard isn't concerned.
not in the least, alky. what's good for bill clinton is good for donald trump.
my concerns are economic, domestic and foreign policy. who he's banging matters not.
who's the liberal broad who said she's blow bubba forever for keeping abortion legal? well, there might be a conservative broad out there who would do the same for his majesty your royal highness president trump for letting her keep more of her hard earned $$$.
thanks for the feigned outrage alky. it's always good for a laugh.
Your final comments are so revealing about your premises about liberals.
But for people who live and die around how much they hate Trump, it's a pretty obvious "projection" to blame the negativity on the person they hate.
I don't hate Trump. I leave hatred on the shelf. He's a despicable human being. It's not about the country , it's all about him.
It's not about the environment, it's about going after businesses. He is in complete denial on climate change. His statement that the storms leaving a foot of snow, is proof that climate change is a liberal fantasy.
It's not about gun control, it's about calling NRA representatives murderers.
The meeting with both sides on gun control legislation and mental health verification. He spoke to the NRA and completely reversed his stands on those important issues.
It's not about immigration policies. He met with Chuck and Nancy and they outlined an initiative to give the Dreamers a path to citizenship. He got negative feedback from his base and literally Fox And Friends and changed dramatically and hasn't gotten any thing done.
it's about accusing people of racism. There are many good people on both sides.
As a man married to an Asian, you should recognize that there were people there are white supremacist. They include Asians on the inferior list.
The fact is that he's not qualified by any measure to be the President. It's all about him and the intelligence you possess should be able to go past your hatred of liberals and understand the facts about Donald J Trump. K
Exactly
Trump though, you cannot deny his negativity. It's not a matter of simple dislike - half of his tweets are badmouthing someone, or threatening, or complaining. Cold objective fact.
two can play this game wp:
Pelosi though, you cannot deny her negativity. It's not a matter of simple dislike - half of her tweets are badmouthing someone, or threatening, or complaining. Cold objective fact.
review her rhetoric only around the tax cuts wp. negative, threatening, and complaining. "armageddon!!!11!" and all.
spare me. we can go tit for tat on this particular topic until the proverbial cows come home.
They include Asians on the inferior list.
no alky...
YOU include asians on YOUR inferior list.
suddenly you can peer inside the mind of a random white supremacist? well, for that to be true you'd have to be one yourself. are you? i think it's likely. liberals know how to hate like no other so the foundation is there. you just need to figure out which asians to target. start with the conservative asians and go from there, alky.
Roger is a typical example of someone who is literally "obsessed" with hating Trump. How many times does he post the same diatribe? Why does he do so when nobody cares? It's like a therapy with him.
i think he's up to about half a dozen on the marla maples post alone.
the alky is what you get when obsessive compulsive meets opioid-fueled psychosis in a recovering alcoholic.
ol' mail order could be shacked up with a ticking time bomb. heh.
I find Roger's comment interesting since the only institutions that are actively discriminating against asians are leftist Ivy League universities.
Oh and Berkeley, Berkeley discriminates against asians also.
Blogger Commonsense said...
I find Roger's comment interesting since the only institutions that are actively discriminating against asians are leftist Ivy League universities.
roger's the biggest bigot and racist on this blog. he's just couched his bigotry and racism in politically correct groups who it's a-ok to discriminate against and he thinks it gives him a pass.
like most liberals, he's over-the-top intolerant.
"Trump IS negative, CH. He is a negative person, and a net loss"
TDS. Period.
As to racism.
He was a birther for six years
I was referring to the White Supremacist movement. Learn how to read English
RRB said ... two can play this game wp: Pelosi though, you cannot deny her negativity.
I'm not going to deny much about Pelosi, since I consider her ill-qualified to be a leader in the Democratic party and I seldom find myself agreeing with her. Your point?
MY point is that we DON'T "go tit for tat on this". I'm not badmouthing anyone just because I disagree with them. Not everyone in Washington is a Trump or a Pelosi or a Hillary. Trump gets the negative publicity because that's what he wants. He works for it, wallows in it, and aside from some of the crazier stuff he deserves it.
Trump is an anomaly, RRB. Like you told me earlier, this is your window of opportunity; enjoy it now, because without having an entire slate of out of touch Republican candidates and a completely corrupt Democratic Party process, with an un-electable candidate, it wouldn't have happened. It's not likely to happen again. Anyone who has convinced themselves otherwise, or who thinks this criticism is abnormal, is simply delusional.
In the meantime, there is nothing wrong with me, the media, or anyone else pointing out his constant stream of gaffes, stupidity and screw-ups. He's earned it, and the more poorly he's thought of the less damage he can do.
Exactly again and again and again
wp, they won't accept this.
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In the meantime, there is nothing wrong with me, the media, or anyone else pointing out his constant stream of gaffes, stupidity and screw-ups. He's earned it, and the more poorly he's thought of the less damage he can do."
He was a birther for six years
He invented birtherism and was the head cheer leader and fraud.....Everything he does is for show and himself....He could care less about our sycophants like rat the hole, CH the genius, menstral our cramp or loretta the loathsome lesbian.....However, none of them are smart enough to know they are being played as fools in trumps megalomaniac games......
"wp, they won't accept this. "
It's his opinion, as idiotic as it may be.
Your point?
my point is that for every negative you can to tag trump i can produce a corresponding negative from a leading liberal. we can go at this for weeks. trump does not have the market cornered on negative political rhetoric.and furthermore, negativity is in the eye of the beholder. what you may classify as a negative is received quite positively by a trump supporter.
It's not likely to happen again. Anyone who has convinced themselves otherwise, or who thinks this criticism is abnormal, is simply delusional.
i would shelve that opinion until after trump's reelection effort is proven out one way or the other. it's quite possible the guy gets reelected. and by a wider margin than his initial victory.
for the idiot alky with greatly diminished reading comprehension skills - i said "quite possible." not guaranteed.
He invented birtherism and was the head cheer leader
Actually it was Hillary Clinton who invented it.
Isn't it funny how liberals keep forgetting that fact?
Blogger Roger Amick said...
As to racism.
He was a birther for six years
only an unabashed imbecile thinks questioning 0linsky's birth cert. was racist.
when everything is racist, nothing is racist, alky.
Actually it was Hillary Clinton who invented it.
Isn't it funny how liberals keep forgetting that fact?
there is quite the long list of facts that liberals seem to be in a perpetual mode of forgetting/erasing.
this would be one. that the KKK was a DEMOCRAT terrorist organization is another.
Indeed the KKK was the terrorist military wing of the Democrat party.
It was the primary reason Democrats kept control of the south for so long.
Had to suppress those black voters dontcha know.
This speaks for itself.
Hard to Trust The Media's Political Coverage After Texas
But the media coverage has focused extensively on the last days of Ted Cruz. He was going to be beaten. Again, this is a very familiar narrative in Georgia where only a couple of months ago the Politico did a story about the Democrats' plans to turn Georgia blue this year. They did the same story a few months earlier with the Karen Handel special election against Jon Ossoff. The New York Times did a similar story a few years ago as Jason Carter and Michele Nunn looked set to beat Nathan Deal for Governor and David Perdue for the Senate. They were assisted by a few pollsters you've never heard of who were happy to generate polls showing the press what the press wanted to show.
Here too, pollsters in Texas have been willing to generate polling to show Democrats exactly what they wanted to see. The media helpfully regurgitated the polls as gospel.
But we have the real data now. We have the votes. The votes show Texas is still an overwhelmingly Republican state with an energized Republican base. Even with the supposedly massive, historic surge of Democrat votes, Republicans still outpaced Democrats by several hundred thousand votes. It does not mean there are not issues the GOP must pay attention to. But it does mean the media has lost even more credibility in its willingness to run with nonsensical spin and both fake news and fake polls.
I don't hate Trump. I leave hatred on the shelf. He's a despicable human being. It's not about the country , it's all about him.
Calling someone a despicable human being is a fairly obvious example of "hate".
This would be akin to me telling someone I am not a violent person and then punching them in the face 10 seconds later. The action makes the statement moot.
my point is that for every negative you can to tag trump i can produce a corresponding negative from a leading liberal.
None of them are President, so that would be pointless.
furthermore, negativity is in the eye of the beholder.
No it's not.
what you may classify as a negative is received quite positively by a trump supporter.
There are some who would and do feel like Trump's badmouthing, mostly ignorant badmouthing, is some kind of positive, but the fact that some small portion of voters have a mental illness is not really pertinent. Perception is NOT reality - that is merely the "perception" of those who have difficulties processing reality. They might be good for a vote, but not much else and they don't help your position any.
I don't hate Trump.
you almost owed me a new keyboard with this comment, alky.
Calling someone a despicable human being is a fairly obvious example of "hate".
According to your reasoning, every time Trump tweets something critical of someone it's an expression of hate, and by extension every time one of you excuses it, you're participating in his hate.
Take a step back from it and look at your list: you're guilty of the same thing that you accuse "liberals" of. You're projecting hateful motivations onto their philosophies, because you disagree with their politics. Looking at it dispassionately, you know that those motivations aren't true.
Actually, not true. I do honestly believe that most people start off in politics with good intentions. I know two young people who are just getting their feet wet in politics (one Republican and one Democrat) and both are the sort of people I would trust with just about anything.
Heck, I am married to a classic West Coast liberal, Korean immigrant, who's entire family is hard core life long Democrats. We disagree about politics more than we agree... but I don't feel any animosity towards her just because we disagree on gun control, or taxes.
Do I believe that some politicians are corrupt? Sure. At a national level, there are probably more corrupt politicians than honest ones (Democrat and Republican). Do I think that 90% of national politics in 2017 is about who can better sell their dishonest rhetoric? Sure. Nobody is telling the honest truth about anything.
But in my day to day life, you simply don't run into the amount of anger from conservatives than you do from liberals. Much of that is likely the fact that conservatives are in charge, and liberals are watching things change in a way they don't like.
Certainly the situation was different when Obama was President and the Democrats were in charge. But you simple did not see the same amount of widespread hatred (led by the media) of any President, than you do today with Trump.
And it's an excuse to blame it on his short skirt, low cut blouse, or flirty attitude. You don't blame the rape victim for the rape. People are responsible for their own actions (as much as the Kathy Griffins of the world would disagree).
wp, the basis for your entire premise is subjectivity. and perception IS reality in trump's case. ESPECIALLY in trump's case.
and it's not some micro sub-subset of voters who feel this way. i talk with them every day. the bigger, the more outrageous the trump utterance, the more they cheer him on. these are folks who suffered in silence and obscurity during the previous administration as their healthcare system was demolished, almost a trillion in stimulus was pissed away, the IRS singled them out for attack, and they were called 'racist' every five minutes for daring to object to the asininity of the policies of the magic negro.
sorry, but you're not the final arbiter of how trump is to be interpreted by the nation.
And it's an excuse to blame it on his short skirt, low cut blouse, or flirty attitude. You don't blame the rape victim for the rape.
True, but when he's flaunting his food-stained t-shirt as high fashion he is deservedly mocked for it. Trump is no victim here. He doesn't deserve your sympathy - hell, conservatives around here are grumbling that his "true" Democratic roots are starting to show through.
According to your reasoning, every time Trump tweets something critical
Well there is a difference between a broad general attack on a person's general character and a specific criticism of a person's actions.
So to the degree Trump tells Alec Baldwin that his career is dying and that Darrell Hammond did a better impression of him, I can live with that without believing he "hates" Alec Baldwin. I also took the whole "Crooked Hillary" and "Little Marco" etc... with a grain of salt.
Nobody has ever stated that President Trump is Mr Positive. But I can probably take the silly tweets much better than some of the more serious statements about "cops acting stupid" or some of the other "serious" things the previous President said.
But my observations are more about the conservative on the street versus the liberal on the street. Heck you can't even hire a conservative speaker to come speak anywhere, without a bunch of angry hateful liberals looking to burn something down, blow something up, or start a riot.
A Declaration of Civil War from the Trump administration.
SACRAMENTO — Warning that California’s liberal politicians were endangering the state’s citizens and obstructing federal law, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced on Wednesday that the Trump administration was suing the state over laws designed to make it more difficult for federal immigration agents to operate there.
Speaking before a crowd of more than 200 California law enforcement officials in a Sacramento hotel ballroom on Wednesday morning, Mr. Sessions described the state’s so-called sanctuary laws as a radical maneuver that would threaten public safety and throw open the nation’s borders to even more illegal immigration.
Immigration law “is in the books, and its purposes are clear and just. There is no nullification, there is no secession. Federal law is the supreme law of the land,” said Mr. Sessions, one of the Trump administration’s most adamant immigration restrictionists. “But California, we have a problem. A series of actions and events have occurred here that directly and adversely impact the work of our federal officers.”
The lawsuit, which the Justice Department disclosed on Tuesday in advance of Mr. Sessions’s speech, was the culmination of a clash both the Trump administration and California have been heading toward for more than a year, with each antagonist reaping political profit from the battle. The Trump administration has sought to demonstrate that it will not tolerate noncompliance with federal immigration enforcement; California’s top officials, self-proclaimed leaders of the anti-Trump resistance, have pushed the state to cooperate with Immigration and Customs Enforcement as little as possible.
I guess that you forgotten the Oklahoma City bombing.
Heck you can't even hire a conservative speaker to come speak anywhere, without a bunch of angry hateful liberals looking to burn something down, blow something up, or start a riot.
Blogger Roger Amick said...
A Declaration of Civil War from the Trump administration.
thanks for nothing for the copy/paste, alky.
that made the news HOURS AGO.
how about telling us something WE DON'T KNOW for a change, eh?
I guess that you forgotten the Oklahoma City bombing.
??? This is another "what the hell is he talking about" moment.
Heck you can't even hire a conservative speaker to come speak anywhere, without a bunch of angry hateful liberals looking to burn something down, blow something up, or start a riot.
so your claims of 'tolerance' turned out to be as much of a lie as every other tenet of liberalism.
“For example, the mayor of Oakland has actively — has actively been seeking to help illegal aliens aboard the prehension by I.C.E. And those who take the law and illegality. There’s no way to understand those remarks. The lieutenant governor of the state praised her for doing so. Bragging about and encouraging the obstruction of our law enforcement and I am afraid that this is an embarrassment to the proud state of California.”
[…]
“Here’s my message — how dare you. How dare you needlessly endanger the lives of our law enforcement officers to promote a radical, open borders agenda.”
??? This is another "what the hell is he talking about" moment.
he must've had an opioid hit. blithering incoherence just kicked in.
So none of you are smart enough to see the correlation between the Oklahoma City Bombing from 23 years ago and the attempted suppression of speech by modern day liberals?
Good... I guess it wasn't just me then.
hypocrisy is the bedrock of liberalism:
The modern Left prefers to argue emotions rather than principles. As it happens, their principles are entirely fungible, unless you count their one overarching principle, which is to achieve and maintain power by any means necessary. When they need a friendly federal judge to issue an injunction against some particular policy with which they disagree, they’re all in favor of a federalism that allows a single solon anywhere in the 50 states to frustrate both the legislature and the executive. This is known as “social justice.”
Alternatively, when the national legislature passes a law, or the chief executive issues an order they despise, they simply nullify it, either covertly through enforcement inaction or, increasingly, overtly, through outright defiance. This is also known as “social justice.”
https://amgreatness.com/2018/03/06/californias-defiance-exposes-house-senate-divided/
being able to pick and choose only the federal laws that you agree with is not how this works.
Blogger C.H. Truth said...
So none of you are smart enough to see the correlation between the Oklahoma City Bombing from 23 years ago and the attempted suppression of speech by modern day liberals?
Good... I guess it wasn't just me then.
it just came to me -
the alky, like most liberals, likes to be able to cling to the fantasy that the OKC bombing was carried out by a conservative. ooooohhh... spooky.
therefore, any violence carried out by any liberal from now until the end of days is justified because OKC was conservatism's original sin or something.
and as usual, reality collides with their fable. mcveigh was no conservative. even when bill clinton blamed the bombing on rush limbaugh. even that bullshit didn't make mcveigh a conservative.
Roger's mind is as spooky as an Edger Allen Poe story.
Stupidity is the bedrock of trump sycophants.....now the tide is flowing out....as nancy called it crumbs....and with tariffs, can't even buy a 6 pack.....yep....you all are soooooooo fucking smart....LOLOLOL
DAYTON, Ohio — At Slyder’s Tavern, Matt Kazee, a machinist, drank a couple of beers as he waited for burgers to take home for dinner. His tab was about equal to the increase in his take-home pay after President Trump’s tax cut found its way into the nation’s paychecks.
“I have seen a little uptick in my paycheck, about what I expected, about 30 bucks,” said Mr. Kazee, who voted twice for President Barack Obama before backing Mr. Trump in the 2016 election. “It felt to me about like where things were 15 years ago.”
His underwhelmed reaction was not what Republicans had in mind. The white working-class voters in the industrial Midwest who helped put Mr. Trump in the White House are now seeing the extra cash from the tax cut, the president’s signature domestic policy achievement and the foundation for Republican election hopes in November.
But the result has hardly been a windfall, economically or politically. Other workers described their increase as enough for a week’s worth of gas or a couple of gallons of milk, with an additional $40 in a paycheck every two weeks on the high side to $2 a week on the low. Few are complaining, but the working class here is not feeling flush with newfound wealth.
And some are convinced that what the tax cut has given them upfront will ultimately fade.
“He’s pulling out jazz hands and shiny stuff up front and will screw us on the back end,” said Brian Barkalow, a worker at Requarth Lumber, where the Wright Brothers once bought wood for their planes.
U.S. Steel to reopen dormant Illinois plant, credits proposed Trump tariffs
U.S. Steel said Wednesday that it is preparing to restart its steelmaking facilities and one blast furnace at an Illinois plant as a result of President Trump’s promise to levy tariffs on foreign steel.
If U.S. Steel restarts part of its plant in Granite City, Ill., which has been out of commission for more than two years, the company could hire 500 workers. The company anticipates the restart could take about four months.
Gee Opie...
Nancy Pelosi stated that people will die if the tax cuts were passed. Suppose the Democrats came up a little short on their expectations? Are they going to campaign on dead people from tax cuts?
All I know is that support for the tax cuts keeps going up and up and up and up...
500 steel workers are about to get a big boost in their pay.
Nancy Pelosi stated that people will die if the tax cuts were passed
And donnie said the tariffs would save lots of jobs.....We'll see who is correct in a couple of years....And you saying the support is going up seems to contradict what I posted.... Oh well, lots of crumbs for the working poor.....let them eat cake......
http://fortune.com/2018/03/06/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs-cost-jobs/
But according to the Trade Partnership, although these industries might see a boost, the costs for industries that use these metals for their products would increase. Therefore, while the number of American workers in the metals industry could increase by an estimated 33,464 jobs, the decrease in other industries would be more significant: an estimated 179,334 jobs. This means that the net loss could total 146,000 jobs.
Read: The U.S. Oil and Gas Industry Is Howling About Donald Trump’s Steel Import Tariffs
The researchers found that in addition to lost manufacturing jobs, the tariffs would have repercussions for related industries that support manufacturers. The increased cost of steel and aluminum would also increase the cost of the goods in which they’re used. This in turn may negatively affect spending, thereby causing an additional fallout for industries sensitive to consumers’ purchasing habits.
Just like saving coal.....it is a rather empty win.....
So Opie...
The Trade Partnership is a free trade lobby/organization, not an neutral based economic think tank.
You'd have about the same chance of the Trade Partnership organization putting together an estimate that tariffs increases jobs, as you would seeing the NRA put out an estimate that more rifles would lead to more crime.
Edger Allen Poe was a genius.
Walter Shapiro certainly isn't
roger said ... But according to the Trade Partnership, although these industries might see a boost, the costs for industries that use these metals for their products would increase.
I have been sympathetic with SOME of Trump's tariff ideas - for sure we should counter blatant dumping of product subsidized by governments and exploitative labor abuses. But dang I wouldn't have chosen something that domestic industries need for construction, infrastructure, products and so on. Exactly the wrong way to go about it.
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