Saturday, May 26, 2018

Liberals hypocritically complain that Trump is branding issues.

President Trump's 'Spy' and the Dark Art of Branding
President Trump has many limitations, to put it mildly, but he is brilliant at the dark art of branding. Those seeking to hold him accountable had better study his technique — and learn to fight fire with fire.
Witness how Trump is trying to use the word “spy” as a weapon against the FBI, the Justice Department and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the election. The president’s performance this week has been totally dishonest — and, let’s be honest, quite effective.
Well it's been effective for a simple reason. It's an easily understandable description of the story that has been surfacing over the past week or so. The other descriptions (offered by the left) are much more convoluted, semantically challenged, and quite obviously defensive.

Let's start with the textbook definition of a spy:
a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.
Sure sounds like that fits the description of the FBI secretly sending someone to make contact with Trump associates, gather information on possible activities, and then report those activities back to them. Doesn't it?

But that doesn't stop the left from attacking the term:
  • You have James Comey stating that Stefan A. Halper wasn't a "spy" but a "confidential human source". 
  • You have James Clapper stating that Halper wasn't spying, but rather was gathering information to protect the Trump campaign. 
  • You have numerous people on the left purposely confusing the term "mole" with the term "spy" insisting that Halper wasn't a spy because he was not embedded in the campaign. 

But at the end of the day, you are still left with the reality that the FBI sent a person to effectively gather information about the Trump campaign, and report it back to the FBI, all without disclosing to anyone that they were doing it. By definition, folks... that's spying. 

So the reason that Donald Trump is winning this little war of the wording is because Trump is correct, by both definition and conventional wisdom, about what a spy actually is and what a spy actually does. The reason that the left is losing this little war of the wording is because they are attempting to redefine people's understanding of the term in a manner that is inconsistent, confusing, and (contrary to the opinion of Eugene Robinson) less than honest.

73 comments:

commie said...

Another big fucking OOPS by our liar in chief and family.....But, I'm sure you will question the way the data was obtained...Oh well, keep slurping trumpies. I'm certain you will consider this spying by the FBI....LOLOLOL!!!!!

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torsion, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville in May, 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-son-concerned-wiretaps-show-trump-jr-met-putin-ally-231215529.html

Commonsense said...

Translation: Liberals have been butthurt by the story for the last week.

commie said...

Yep....our commander in chief is a chicken in the eyes of many who have served.....

"It is right and fitting that the president of the United States give a commencement address to a service academy’s graduating class," Daniel Barkhuff and William Burke wrote in Wednesday's edition of the paper. "It is also right and fitting that citizens of the democracy for which these graduates will soon be charged with protecting point out the personal cowardice, narcissism and incompetency of the current president."

Barkhuff and Burke graduated from the Academy in 2001. They now work at Veterans for Responsible Leadership.

They wrote of the sacrifices made by various Naval Academy graduates, such as Sen. John McCain, over the years.

"Contrast this to the personal and professional honor of the sitting president of the United States, who time and again makes small choices guided by self-interest, ego, impulse and immediate self-gratification," they wrote. "He could never do what we ask our U.S. Naval Academy graduates to do. He is a physical coward, a liar and no leader at all."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/05/25/naval-academy-graduates-anti-trump-opinion/646282002/

Yeah, he's wining bigly with an extreme minority of Americans....

Commonsense said...

The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations

Yes, the news media was briefly excited by this story yesterday but there's no there there.

commie said...

Liberals have been butthurt by the story for the last week.

Whatever that means.....Idiot...

commie said...

this story yesterday but there's no there there.

I'm sure you are praying for divine guidance that your opinion is valid.....I'll let it play out like the nothing burger meeting yesterday about the spy.....which turns out to be nothing or Nunes would be cumming down his leg like you, menstral...>LOLLOL

Commonsense said...

Well I usually pray for divine guidance everyday but not about my opinion.

And given the hate and vulgarity you spew with every post it looks like you can use a little divine guidance yourself.

It's your choice.

commie said...

divine guidance everyday but not about my opinion.

You should since devine guidance would tell you that you should stay out of others lives. And your faux indignation concerning my vulgarity is a bigger joke than you are as you ignore your asshole compatriots use without a modicum of care and complete silence!!!. IOW's fuck you....vulgar enough for an asshole like you????? LOLOLOL Black and white again...it is all you have....idiot...

Commonsense said...

Those "asshole compatriots" usual don't fall into vulgarity and if they occasionally say a vulgar word it is to make a point.

You on the other hand are obsessed with sexual imagery and you are vulgar just to be vulgar.

So yeah, I'd say you have a problem.

Loretta said...

"But at the end of the day, you are still left with the reality that the FBI sent a person to effectively gather information about the Trump campaign, and report it back to the FBI, all without disclosing to anyone that they were doing it. By definition, folks... that's spying."

It's spying. Period.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

It didn't happen.

It's lying folks

Loretta said...

WHOM to believe...

The facts?

Or, some irrelevant troll.

James said...

FBI Obtained Wiretaps of Russian Who Met with Trump Jr.

“The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016,” Yahoo News reports.

“José Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer.”

Said Grinda: “Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI. Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”
____________________________

OH NO! Spying is going on! OH NO!

Anonymous said...



oh, it's spying alky.

BIGLY fucking spying.

your coup is turning to shit right before your bloodshot eyes.

commie said...

It's spying. Period.

Only to non thinking morons like you and the rest of the trump sycophants.......Notice that Nunes has been very quiet? You think that the meeting would have caused him to make another stupid allegation if they learned anything....Even an idiot like you should see that...LOL!!!!!

Loretta said...

"your coup is turning to shit right before your bloodshot eyes."

HA!

Anonymous said...


Wiretap fever

Secret surveillance was conducted on no fewer than seven Trump associates: chief strategist Stephen Bannon; lawyer Michael Cohen; national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn; adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner; campaign chairman Paul Manafort; and campaign foreign policy advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.

The FBI reportedly applied for a secret warrant in June 2016 to monitor Manafort, Page, Papadopoulos and Flynn. If true, it means the FBI targeted Flynn six months before his much-debated conversation with Russia’s ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.

The FBI applied four times to wiretap Page after he became a Trump campaign adviser starting in July 2016. Page’s office is connected to Trump Tower and he reports having spent “many hours in Trump Tower.”

CNN reported that Manafort was wiretapped before and after the election “including during a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump.” Manafort reportedly has a residence in Trump Tower.


http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/388978-growing-signs-of-a-counterintelligence-operation-deployed-against-trumps




commie said...

Those "asshole compatriots" usual don't fall into vulgarity


BWAAAAAAAAAA!!!! You are dumber than my cats with stupid comments like that....saying that about rat hole and the injun are just as absurd as trump saying obama was born in kenya!!! Vulgarity is you speaking for the morals of others and believing they should live as you....FUCK YOU!!!! ASSHOLE......

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, Denni.

Anonymous said...




so... d0pie has cats.

why am i not surprised?

Loretta said...

"Wiretap fever"

The two-bit community organizer doesn't know just how much he's going to need the gig with Netflix.

Commonsense said...

Only to non thinking morons like you and the rest of the trump sycophants...

A group that would include almost every thinking adult in the United States.

Most Americans can sniff out bullshit and watching former Obama administration officials and the news media parse the diffrence between informant and spy they see a huge pile in front of them.

Anonymous said...

Roger Amick said...

It didn't happen.

It's lying folks



well excuse us alky but clapper himself said it DID happen and was done to "protect" (LOL) trump.

now, we all know that clapper is a pathological liar so either this is a rare moment of honesty for him, or...

you're hoping that he's actually lying this time too.


is that where you're going with this?

commie said...

The kid one....rat hole and his minions take it in the ass again ZERO .....TOO FUNNY.....so much for extortion! Morals win over idiot gun lovers....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

The supermarket chain Publix on Friday announced that it would suspend its political contributions to Adam Putnam, a Republican candidate for Florida governor, after being faced with overwhelming pressure to cut ties with him because of his fierce support for the National Rifle Association.

“We would never knowingly disappoint our customers or the communities we serve,’’ Publix said in a statement Friday. “As a result, we decided earlier this week to suspend corporate-funded political contributions as we reevaluate our giving processes.’’

The announcement came moments before “die-in” protests organized by 18-year-old gun-control activist David Hogg began at several Publix supermarkets, forcing store managers to reroute shoppers around the protesters, who lay on the floors of the aisles. At an Orlando

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/05/25/publix-suspends-contributions-to-adam-putnam-amid-david-hoggs-anti-nra-protests/?utm_term=.eeb4fd2c449d

commie said...

A group that would include almost every thinking adult in the United States.


BWAAAAAAAAAAA!!! You are so full of shit it's coming out your mouth.......


why am i not surprised?

And you care why???? IDIOT.....I've only mentioned it 60 or 70 times......try to keep up.....

Anonymous said...




publix has no presence where i live d0pie.

little shitler's latest antics with them mean exactly nothing to me.

Commonsense said...

It's disappointing that Publix caved to the little asshole.

But I don't think it will stop Putnam from being governor.

commie said...

caved to the little asshole.

What a vulgar thing to say....the little punk has more ballz at his young age than you can even dream of....He won, your side took it up the ass with the hyperbolic bullshit that you all posted yesterday....Funny how you rationalize the loss!!! Putnam has to win the primary first and he may not!!!!!

Commonsense said...

The little punk as you call him is riding his 15 minutes of fame.

And trying everything he can do the keep the attention on him.

Sooner or later even his supporters will tire of him.

commie said...

Menstral from the other site now questions the Irish vote in its entirety....they are all obviously not Christian in his foolish cultist eyes...very sad...


Wow got much anti-Catholic bigotry there James?


Yer a fucking idiot.....vulgar enough or you want more??????

Commonsense said...

Why no, that enough to expose you as the ignorant ass you are.

Thanks, but we knew it already.

commie said...

call him is riding his 15 minutes of fame

He sure is and is still getting results as your claim to fame is being an idiot....Yeah publix statement sure shows they were listening, unlike you....Sooner or later you will wake up from your trump coma, but I don't hold much credence in that!!!

commie said...

o expose you as the ignorant ass you are.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! Sure GW is a hoax advocate.....Ignorance is you and your belief all should live in your image.....IDIOT. You missed your calling as the town jester.....Trump sucking asshole......

Commonsense said...

He sure is and is still getting results

Hardly.

Gun control support fades three months after Florida massacre: Reuters/Ipsos poll

However if his goal is just to get attention, then he has succeded.

commie said...

little shuttler's latest antics with them mean exactly nothing to me.

Then why did you post that hot air bullshit about him yesterday??? If he means nothing, why are you responding about him, again????.....You either are a loser like him or worse....BWAAAAAAAA!!!!! He won another round while you still peddle your loser wares in upstate NY!!!!

commie said...

And menstral is surprised history repeats itself until the next massacre.....SHOCKING he is so vulgar in his thinking that gun control is a bad thing....

Gun control support fades three months after Florida massacre: Reuters/Ipsos poll

While U.S. public support for more gun control measures has grown slowly but steadily over the years, it typically spikes immediately after the mass shootings that have become part of the U.S. landscape, then falls back to pre-massacre levels within a few months.

He should read before posting headlines.....but I know he is too lazy to actually read....LOL

Loretta said...

"Hardly.

Gun control support fades three months after Florida massacre: Reuters/Ipsos poll"

HA!

commie said...

Injun breath posted

Gun control support fades three months after Florida massacre: Reuters/Ipsos poll


Ha, yer an idiot also.....try reading before posting....it avoids you looking dumber and lazier than you already are.....

While U.S. public support for more gun control measures has grown slowly but steadily over the years, it typically spikes immediately after the mass shootings that have become part of the U.S. landscape, then falls back to pre-massacre levels within a few months.

Shocking how stupid you trumpians are!!!! BTW....fuck your chuckle remark


Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, Denni.

commie said...

I repeat for the weak minded gut eater....

.fuck your chuckle remark

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, Denni.

denni said...

commie said...
I repeat for the weak minded lesbian gut eater....

.fuck your chuckle remark

Loretta said...

You forgot LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, Denni.

Commonsense said...

Dennis really thinks his posts are witty and clever that's the sad part of his disease.

Loretta said...
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Loretta said...

Simple words historical truths....

"There is no hill our Marines can’t take and there is no stronghold the SEALs can’t breach. There is no sea the Navy can’t brave…together there is nothing that Americans can’t do."

President Donald J Trump
May 25, 2018

Loretta said...

"Dennis really thinks his posts are witty and clever that's the sad part of his disease."

He's a weird one.

commie said...

Dennis really thinks his posts are witty and clever that's the sad part of his disease.

The fucking asshole from coral gables thinks he has a brain.....we all know better.....Thinking and cultism do not coexist and you are living proof with the gut eating lesbian.....Nothing witty about that, doncha think....pretty vulgar, but neither of you will go away....sad.....

commie said...

President Donald J Trump
May 25, 2018

The chief draft dodger of the 70's that loretta fawns over.....Too funny even for a weak minded lesbian sycophant injun like loretta. How come you hold him to a different standard than me?????/

Loretta said...

CS, want to hear an AMAZING prayer??

This is the opening invocation delivered at the U.S. Air Force Academy graduation ceremony on Wedneday. Wow.

About 3 1/2 minutes long and if you watch just one video this weekend, this should be the one. Watch, listen & see for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeaCWy5bx2Q&feature=youtu.be

Loretta said...

Because you're an obnoxious troll.

Commonsense said...

From Sharyl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

It's convenient (for them) that Clapper, Brennan, Morell are hired at national news organizatns where they can give their spin & monitor media on matters that directly implicate them in *possible* improprieties.

There was a time when this placement wd have been considered an ethics problem.

A fmr. top intel official I asked about this said, "It also gives them an opportunity to correct the record and possibly influence others in the industry including editors and management.

If former CIA Dir. was in the news room I suspect a coworker or editor would use them as a resource and/or run things by them. They also become well placed spies to report on what legitimate journalists are up to. Sound familiar?"--fmr. top intel official. #HeOughtToKnow

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

CH, You need to take the twelve steps in Trumpohilics Anonymous.



Yesterday May 25th was my Christmas of every month. I have been sober for five years and eleven months and one day!
One day at a time.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Donald Trump is winning the war of words because he has the bully pulpit. He lies with each Tweet. It becomes the word of the day. The true story coming from the media word against the lie doesn't have the impact of the lies from the President.


This is a classic example of how autocratic regimes around the world operate.

James said...

See his latest very obvious lie on the Kim Jong Un Blinks thread.

commie said...


Blogger Commonsense said...
From Sheryl Attkisson @SharylAttkisson

An opinion as irrelevant as yours....Sad so many idiots, so little time....

commie said...

Loretta the injun said...
Because you're an obnoxious troll.

Wow...such clarity in thought. IOW's you can't defend trump either....perfect!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

You on the other hand are obsessed with sexual imagery and you are vulgar just to be vulgar."

Dennis, good to see ya. One point, If, your dead parents saw your writings would they be proud?

Anonymous said...

I really Hope that the obama/clinton radicalized left find peace.

The best political win of my life time has been this Trump out of no where win. He did it with 1/3 the money 1/5 the staff.

commie said...

Menstral again claims erroneously that


You on the other hand are obsessed with sexual imagery and you are vulgar just to be vulgar."

No just stupidity like yours and the hope you will vanish into the ether like the assholes from kansas who like you have no shame or intellect....LOLOLOL

Loretta said...
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Loretta said...

"It's convenient (for them) that Clapper, Brennan, Morell are hired at national news organizatns where they can give their spin & monitor media on matters that directly implicate them in *possible* improprieties."

Convenient is right.

Commonsense said...

Using the FBI to spy on your opponent is a proud Democrat tradition:

The FBI Spied for LBJ’s Campaign
On the president’s orders, the bureau wiretapped Barry Goldwater’s plane and headquarters.

In 1971 Robert Mardian, who had been a regional director in the Goldwater campaign, became (in the Nixon administration) assistant attorney general for internal security. During a two-hour briefing with Hoover, Mardian asked about the procedures for electronic surveillance. To Mardian’s amazement, Hoover confessed that in 1964 the FBI had wired the Goldwater campaign plane, under orders from the White House. When Mardian asked Hoover why he had complied, the director answered, “You do what the president tells you to do.”

In a later conversation with Mardian, William C. Sullivan, the bureau’s No. 2 man, verified the FBI’s spying operation against the Goldwater campaign. In a 1992 interview, Mardian told me that Sullivan was appalled at LBJ’s partisan use of the bureau.”

President) Johnson also illegally ordered the FBI to conduct security checks of Goldwater’s Senate staff. Cartha “Deke” DeLoach, the FBI’s liaison with the White House and a top aide to Director J. Edgar Hoover, denied at a 1975 Congressional hearing that the bureau had investigated Goldwater’s staff. But through the Freedom of Information Act, I obtained copies of FBI memoranda detailing the results of the bureau’s illegal file check of 15 Senate staffers. “No derogatory information was located concerning” any of the people in Goldwater’s Senate office, stated one memo that bore DeLoach’s initials.”

Former intelligence officer E. Howard Hunt, best known for his role as an orchestrator of the Watergate bugging, told a Senate committee in 1973 that his CIA superior had ordered him to infiltrate the Goldwater campaign. Hunt claimed to have questioned the order, only to be told that it had been a personal request of President Johnson and that the information he recovered would be delivered to a White House aide.

CIA Director William Colby confirmed the White House’s role in the illegal surveillance while addressing a congressional hearing in 1975. That the CIA is prohibited by law from operating within the U.S. didn’t matter to the Johnson campaign. The Goldwater people never suspected that one of them was a spy for the Democrats.”

Now. Question. Where was the liberal media in 1964 on this hot story? Answer, all too predictably, exactly nowhere.


But they were sure to crucify Nixon.

Anonymous said...

Yes,jfk and his idiot brother Robert against Dr. KING.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

That's 50 years ago. Hoover has been dead for at least 40 years.

The FBI has not been partisan since Hoover.

Menstra has been using an invalid analogy for years.

Anonymous said...

Can CA Tax themselves into Prosperity.
"USC Poll found that a majority of California registered voters would back a 2020 initiative to eliminate Prop 13 benefits for commercial property owners.
The latest USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll found that 54 percent of California registered voters now favor eliminating Proposition 13’s protections against unlimited increases for industrial and commercial owners. With about $60 billion per year currently collected in property taxes, eliminating Prop 13 protections for businesses would generate another $6.5 to 10.5 billion in property tax revenue each year, according to the non-partisan California State Legislative Analysts Office."

Anonymous said...

Jfk directing his brother to spy on Dr. King.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

In a tweet, the president took issue with that sentence, saying, “WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.”


It is not clear whether the president was simply unaware of the actions of his own senior staff or if he knowingly ignored the truth. The source of that sentence was a White House official who held a briefing on Thursday afternoon in the White House briefing room that was attended by about 50 reporters, with about 200 or so more on a conference call.



Reporters often request such briefings to be on the record, which would allow the official to be named. But, in this case, the rules of the briefing imposed by the White House required that the official be referred to only as a “senior White House official.” The Times is continuing to abide by that agreement.

The Times was been right all along.

Coldheartedtruth Teller said...

Trump Falsely Says Times Made Up Source in Report on Korea Summit Meeting https://nyti.ms/2xgdl0V

commie said...

Jfk directing his brother to spy on Dr. King.

Another irrelevant POS posted by the idiot of kansas...WTF does jfk have to do with the trump idiocy????? Go burn a tree for jesus...

Anonymous said...

Good morning Trump haters.
Hope you have a fine day.

Commonsense said...

There isn't a lot to make Trump haters happy today.

For the rest of America, an American came home after being held hostage in Venezuela.

Anonymous said...

David Marcus‏ @BlueBoxDave

NYT: White House official says Trump is wrong, 6/12 is impossible.
Trump: That’s a fake quote, no actual source said it.
NYT: Ok, nobody said it, but there is a real source, we just botched what he said.
MSM: WHY IS TRUMP SUCH A LIAR!!!