Anyone really remember why Watergate was such a huge scandal? Because Nixon was using his power to spy on his political opponents! |
But the professor was more than an academic interested in American politics — he was a longtime U.S. intelligence source. And, at some point in 2016, he began working as a secret informant for the FBI as it investigated Russia’s interference in the campaign, according to people familiar with his activities.
The role played by the source is now at the center of a battle that has pitted President Trump against his own Justice Department and fueled the president’s attacks on the special counsel’s investigation. In a Thursday tweet, he called the probe “a disgusting, illegal and unwarranted Witch Hunt.”
In recent days, Trump and his allies have escalated their claims that the FBI source improperly spied on the campaign.
“Reports are there was indeed at least one FBI representative implanted, for political purposes, into my campaign for president,” he tweeted Friday. “It took place very early on, and long before the phony Russia Hoax became a ‘hot’ Fake News story. If true — all time biggest political scandal!” (link)
Here is the reality, whether anyone on the left "really" wants to admit it. There should be almost no reason what-so-ever where the administration in power actually plants/infiltrates intelligence sources into the opposition Presidential campaign. To the degree that this reason might exist, it should only be at the most extreme and obvious situations where it would literally be malfeasance on the part of the intelligence community to ignore. In the other 99.99% of the time, discretion is the better part of valor.
Controversial informant Stefan Halper previously accused of spying in the 1980 Presidential campaign. |
Having the Intelligence community secretly monitor your political opponents are things we expect from Vladimir Putin and Russian authorities, or Richard Nixon. We certainly don't expect them from modern era American leadership (especially after Watergate). We certainly would not put up with the Trump intelligence community spying on his next political opponent. Why would we put up with this happening in 2016.
Let's also be clear here. The intelligence source in question made contact with the Trump campaign, not the other way around. This was not someone posing as a Russian agent, attempting to entrap them. This was a guy who was likely feeding Page and Papadopoulos with ten times more information (real or not) than they had themselves.
The "proof is in the pudding" and "put up or shut up" are sayings that come to mind here. If there was good reason to be spying on members of the Trump campaign, they better show that they got something very tangible for their efforts. Either Carter Page or George Papadopoulos better be actual Russian agents, rather than the effective nobodies that they appear to be. Because if they are the effective nobodies that they have always appeared be, then there was zero reason to be spying on them.
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Chilling.
Given that every asshole Leftist sees nada wrong in this when approved by Obama.
President Trump IF he did it would:
1, Stay true and support him
2, Go pussy hat wearing bat dung crazy
There is always a good reason to spy on your political opponents. They want to take you out of power.
Their double standard has already been noted.
Leftist are cynical people who will adopt principles when it serves them in acquiring power and then toss them aside went they are no longer of use.
For all the rhetoric about Trump it turns out Obama was the real authoritarian all along.
There were no "plants intelligence sources into the opposition"
Your post is based upon a totally made up "fact".
Dems where triggered by My President into defending, Hamas and MS13.
That was/is Priceless video. 2018 wave?
Remember Dems in the Senate have 6 years of Progress Obama votes to 'splain.
Clapper vs alky.
No winner. Only losers.
Your post is based upon a totally made up "fact".
Quoting the Washington Post, Rog?
I thought you trusted the Post?
Lost Years Historic, hope in change for unbridled corruption. A Hillary win and all this stayed under the Oval Office rug.
I thought you trusted the Post?" CHT
Oh not again, damn Rog.
There should be almost no reason what-so-ever where the administration in power actually plants intelligence sources into the opposition Presidential campaign.
There is no evidence to suggest someone was planted with the campaign. The source in question engaged in a months-long pattern of seeking out and meeting three different Trump campaign officials.
The academic asked for his own reasons, not directed to do so by either the President "Obama" or the FBI.
I posted it without the Trump administration editing as CH was directed.
"The academic asked for his own reasons, not directed to do so by either the President "Obama" or the FBI."
LOL.
Sure.
Ari FleischerVerified account @AriFleischer ·
"The investigation’s origin was the suspicion that the DNC’s server was hacked. Without this attack, there would be no investigation. But how do we know it happened? The Obama Justice Dept. never took custody of the server — no subpoena, no search warrant."
You beat me to it.,,, Gullible Alky.
Scott you intentionally and dishonestly edited the Washington Post story.
Your words: There should be almost no reason what-so-ever where the administration in power actually plants intelligence sources into the opposition Presidential campaign.
The Washington Post:
There is no evidence to suggest someone was planted with the campaign. The source in question engaged in a months-long pattern of seeking out and meeting three different Trump campaign officials.
You lied. Pure and simple.
The source was never part of the campaign organization.
There is no evidence to suggest someone was planted with the campaign. The source in question engaged in a months-long pattern of seeking out and meeting three different Trump campaign officials.
That is a hyper-semantic argument, Rog...
The general meaning of infiltrate is to gradually gain access to an organization in order to garner information (generally otherwise secret or classified information) that would otherwise not be able to be gathered.
Did the FBI send an informant to garner the trust of Trump campaign members, in a manner to gather information on what these members knew? Did that person come out with secret information that they otherwise would not have had access to?
The ends are what clarifies the means, Rog.
I guess you just have to ask yourself if you are okay if the Trump DOJ decides to use a couple of informants to get cozy with their next political opponent, in order to gather information on what the campaign is doing.
If you can honestly say that this action would not bother you... then so be it. Otherwise, you are being a hypocrite.
Did the FBI send an informant to garner the trust of Trump campaign members, in a manner to gather information on what these members knew?
No.
Did that person come out with secret information that they otherwise would not have had access to?
Apparently yes. Investigation into the possible infiltration of the Russian intervention and possible collision between the campaign and the Russians was entirely legitimate.
If the Trump FBI/DOJ is directed to do so because there is evidence that the Russians and the opposition campaign were cooperating in an illegal effort to directly affect the outcome of the election, you can damn well bet I would approve of it.
If the Trump FBI/DOJ is directed to do so because there is evidence that the Russians and the opposition campaign were cooperating
See, that's the thing. There was no evidence then and there's not any now.
The whole spy plot was a counterintelligence operation to find out what the Trump campaign was doing.
And yet you won't condemn it.
Journalists' Hatred for Trump Is Destroying Them
Take for example the New York Times, a former newspaper. The Times used to pride itself on exposing and denigrating our military, intelligence and law enforcement services. The Pentagon Papers, Abu Ghraib, enhanced interrogation, search and seizure: the Times fought hard to thwart the work of our services when they were fighting against and spying on our enemies.
But now that it turns out the FBI and CIA leadership may have been subverting our political process to try to thwart Donald Trump, the Times has become a sort of megaphone for the excuses and spin of the Deep State wrong-doers.
On Thursday, with Devin Nunes relentlessly digging out the facts, and a reputedly damaging inspector general's report on the way, the Times attempted to help anonymous Fed sources spin, play down and obscure what is now obvious to any honest observer: the Obama administration abused its power for political purposes and nowhere so badly as in the DOJ's investigation of Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
Roger has three things, a criminal=Trump, evidence = he can't cite and a crime = has not posted the US Criminal code.
George Papadopoulos provided information about the Russian intervention yet you don't believe him because it reflects negatively on the President.
"help anonymous Fed sources spin, play down and obscure what is now obvious to any honest observer: the Obama administration abused its power for political purposes and nowhere so badly as in the DOJ's investigation of Donald Trump's presidential campaign"
Bingo. Chilling.
It wasn't just the Russians
WASHINGTON — Three months before the 2016 election, a small group gathered at Trump Tower to meet with Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son. One was an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation. Another was an emissary for two wealthy Arab princes. The third was a Republican donor with a controversial past in the Middle East as a private security contractor.
The meeting was convened primarily to offer help to the Trump team, and it forged relationships between the men and Trump insiders that would develop over the coming months — past the election and well into President Trump’s first year in office, according to several people with knowledge of their encounters.
Erik Prince, the private security contractor and the former head of Blackwater, arranged the meeting, which took place on Aug. 3, 2016. The emissary, George Nader, told Donald Trump Jr. that the crown princes who led Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were eager to help his father win election as president. The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his company’s ability to give an edge to a political campaign; by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump.
The company, which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers, specialized in collecting information and shaping opinion through social media.
It is unclear whether such a proposal was executed, and the details of who commissioned it remain in dispute. But Donald Trump Jr. responded approvingly, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting, and after those initial offers of help, Mr. Nader was quickly embraced as a close ally by Trump campaign advisers — meeting frequently with Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, and Michael T. Flynn, who became the president’s first national security adviser. At the time, Mr. Nader was also promoting a secret plan to use private contractors to destabilize Iran, the regional nemesis of Saudi Arabia and the Emirates.
Donald Trump Jr. was said to respond approvingly to a proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect his father as president.
Donald Trump Jr. was said to respond approvingly to a proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect his father as president.Damon Winter/The New York Times
After Mr. Trump was elected, Mr. Nader paid Mr. Zamel a large sum of money, described by one associate as up to $2 million. There are conflicting accounts of the reason for the payment, but among other things, a company linked to Mr. Zamel provided Mr. Nader with an elaborate presentation about the significance of social media campaigning to Mr. Trump’s victory.
The meetings, which have not been reported previously, are the first indication that countries other than Russia may have offered assistance to the Trump campaign in the months before the presidential election.
Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election https://nyti.ms/2IV6EpU
George Papadopoulos provided information about the Russian intervention yet you don't believe him
What information is that sport? (This is where Roger says Papadopoulos' drunken musings is the information but the targeted spy plot against the Trump campaign started way before that.)
If the Trump FBI/DOJ is directed to do so because there is evidence that the Russians and the opposition campaign were cooperating in an illegal effort to directly affect the outcome of the election, you can damn well bet I would approve of it.
except for one thing -
there is no actual EVIDENCE. none. zero. zip. nada. not even a little bit.
you've chosen to support a coup based upon a fucking LIE.
so not only are you a liar and a hack and a draft dodger alky, you're a fucking traitor to your country too.
It is unclear whether such a proposal was executed, and the details of who commissioned it remain in dispute.
but we're going to report it anyway because we are admittedly a pack of lying hacks and shills for democrats.
the best part of the alky's ny times story;
Maggie Haberman contributed reporting.
the same maggie haberman who blamed trump for the media's deliberate lies about the animals of ms-13.
Maggie Haberman of the far-left New York Times is publicly blaming President Trump after the media deliberately took his “animal” comments about MS-13 gang members out of context.
[...]
And so, the news cycle played out exactly as it always does. The media intentionally lied about Trump’s MS-13 remarks, at least until the pushback became too fierce. Then the media quietly “corrected” the lies. Then the media moved on to lie about something else. Rinse, wash, repeat. Welcome to American Journalism 2018.
The left-wing Haberman, however, still cannot let it go. Although she has been forced to concede Trump was referring to MS-13 and not all immigrants, she is now attempting to blame Trump over the fact that she and her media colleagues misled the American people by refusing to report the full context of his remarks:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/05/19/nyts-haberman-blames-trump-medias-animal-fake-news/
Yeah, she's a piece of work.
This was a guy who was likely feeding Page and Papadopoulos with ten times more information (real or not) than they had themselves.
Pure bullshit....
Blogger Roger Amick said...
It wasn't just the Russians
Now, wait for it. It was the Jooooossss!!!!!
First of all Rog... you are an idiot if you deny that they didn't send an intelligence source out to garner the trust of Trump individuals and see what they could dig up.
Apparently yes. Investigation into the possible infiltration of the Russian intervention and possible collision between the campaign and the Russians was entirely legitimate.
Except for the simple fact that they didn't actually gather any evidence that there was any collusion.
That begs the question, Rog... what information did they get? How can you possibly separate out all of the regular campaign information known by the three individuals working for the campaign, from the stuff that was specifically regarding collusion. Are you seriously suggesting that the source "only" gathered information regarding collusion?
That is the problem, Rog... You can't shut off the other information that an informant is privy to, which is why you generally would not allow a DOJ/FBI run by one political Party to spy on the other Party... regardless of the pretenses.
Again, if there was just cause for this, then we would have the just evidence to back up the cause. If they came up empty, then they never had just cause.
"the same maggie haberman who blamed trump for the media's deliberate lies about the animals of ms-13."
Haberman, another flatbacker.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Nothing to see here.....yeah sure....Next!!!
"First of all Rog... you are an idiot if you deny that they didn't send an intelligence source out to garner the trust of Trump individuals and see what they could dig up."
Which is why he's trying desperately to change the subject, lol.
Rog, poor slow low IQ, Rog.
Now, wait for it. It was the Jooooossss!!!!!" CS
Yep, not one Democrat US Senator or Democrat US Representative could be troubled to make the Trip to Israel.
social media manipulation effort "
Aka ads, like Carl's Jr Burger ads with big breasted woman eating big juicy hamburgers to get men to buy a burger.
Unwittedly did Akly just say Nixon Watergate was no big deal as alky attempt to justify Obama's spying on Trump.
Not to be lost in this is how Right Trump is on all this Obama wire tapping , spying and Chicago thuggery.
Admittly Off Topic. Winning Bigly.
In a joint statement released Saturday, the United States and China announced that a “consensus” was reached to “substantially reduce” trade imbalances between the two countries by $370 billion."
Why is it Obama never made deals like these?
If the Trump FBI/DOJ is directed to do so because there is evidence that the Russians and the opposition campaign were cooperating in an illegal effort to directly affect the outcome of the election, you can damn well bet I would approve of it.
Well it all depends on who does it, huh?
Because when Clinton and the DNC hired a foreign operative to go to Russia, to pay Russian officials for dirt on their political opponent...
what sort of outrage did you muster?
The answer is none. You just accepted that when it was Democrats doing it, that it can be just called "opposition research" and it's suddenly perfectly legal.
First of all Scott... you are an idiot if you believe that they sent an intelligence source out to garner the trust of Trump individuals and see what they could dig up for partisan reasons.
Because when Clinton and the DNC hired a foreign operative to go to Russia, to pay Russian officials for dirt on their political opponent..."
USS Wisconsin (CHT) vs Iranian gun boat (Rog.).
Obama used the IRS against Conservative Organization.
social media manipulation effort "
Roger AmickMay 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM
“A woman who was shot & killed today at Santa Fe High School had just gone back to work because her husband was diagnosed with terminal cancer. How tragically American. She has to go back to work to pay for healthcare no one can afford & she gets shot doing so”. ~ Melinda Carroll
Notice what is missing from the tweet the Actual Name of the Victim, got her name Alky?
Obama used the IRS against Conservative Organization.
BS!!!!!!
The IRS scandal was bs. Benghazi was bs.
First of all Scott... you are an idiot if you believe that they sent an intelligence source out to garner the trust of Trump individuals and see what they could dig up for partisan reasons.
Really? Because the person in question was accused of doing the exact same thing in a prior election.
I guess the proof will be in the pudding, as they say.
If Carter Page or George Papadopoulos are charged with conspiracy for colluding with the Russians, then you will be correct and the spying on the Trump campaign will be legitimate.
Of course is neither has been determined to have conspiracy connections then there would have been no reason for them to get someone to try to infiltrate the Trump campaign by engaging in these people. Regardless of what they say, I don't believe they would make that horrendously large of a "mistake". I would assume ulterior motives over blatant incompetence.
Time will tell who is correct and who is "an idiot".
Of course "if" neither has been determined to have conspiracy connections then there would have been no reason for them to get someone to try to infiltrate the Trump campaign by engaging in these people.
You're assuming again that any effort to "infiltrate" is partisan because there was no evidence of collusion by default.
Therefore no reason to investigate. You believe the Trump campaign officials are innocent.
Because the person in question was accused of doing the exact same thing in a prior election. is to remain anonymous as the director of the FBI for his own security.
Proof of your idiocy:
If Carter Page or George Papadopoulos are charged with conspiracy for colluding with the Russians, then you will be correct and the spying on the Trump campaign will be legitimate.
You're assuming again that any effort to "infiltrate" is partisan because there was no evidence of collusion by default.
Therefore no reason to investigate. You believe the Trump campaign officials are innocent.
Yes, Roger. That is how it works. If there is no evidence of a crime, that means that that person (or people) are innocent.
So far, the only evidence of collusion was between Richard Steele, Russian sources, and those who paid for the dirt on Donald Trump.
If nothing more serious than this comes out of this investigation, then there are very few conclusions other than the Democrats in charge of the DOJ and FBI were hypocrites who were putting politics ahead of integrity.
I understand that as it pertains to integrity, that takes a back seat to "getting" Donald Trump by any means for many people. I just don't believe that's a valid excuse.
Roger AmickMay 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM
“A woman who was shot & killed today at Santa Fe High School had just gone back to work because her husband was diagnosed with terminal cancer. How tragically American. She has to go back to work to pay for healthcare no one can afford & she gets shot doing so”. ~ Melinda Carroll
Go her name ole Rog?
EXTREMELY STRANGE EPISODE that has engulfed official Washington over the last two weeks came to a truly bizarre conclusion on Friday night. And it revolves around a long-time, highly sketchy CIA operative, Stefan Halper.
Four decades ago, Halper was responsible for a long-forgotten spying scandal involving the 1980 election, in which the Reagan campaign – using CIA officials managed by Halper, reportedly under the direction of former CIA Director and then-Vice-Presidential candidate George H.W. Bush – got caught running a spying operation from inside the Carter administration. The plot involved CIA operatives passing classified information about Carter’s foreign policy to Reagan campaign officials in order to ensure the Reagan campaign knew of any foreign policy decisions that Carter was considering.
Over the past several weeks, House Republicans have been claiming that the FBI during the 2016 election used an operative to spy on the Trump campaign, and they triggered outrage within the FBI by trying to learn his identity. The controversy escalated when President Trump joined the fray on Friday morning. “Reports are there was indeed at least one FBI representative implanted, for political purposes, into my campaign for president,” Trump tweeted, adding: “It took place very early on, and long before the phony Russia Hoax became a “hot” Fake News story. If true – all time biggest political scandal!”
In response, the DOJ and the FBI’s various media spokespeople did not deny the core accusation, but quibbled with the language (the FBI used an “informant,” not a “spy”), and then began using increasingly strident language to warn that exposing his name would jeopardize his life and those of others, and also put American national security at grave risk. On May 8, the Washington Post described the informant as “a top-secret intelligence source” and cited DOJ officials as arguing that disclosure of his name “could risk lives by potentially exposing the source, a U.S. citizen who has provided intelligence to the CIA and FBI.”
Yeah everyone knows that, Rog.
Nice deflection, Rog.
Defending Trump against all charges is not a valid argument.
That's new.
New article, news everyone knew.
Hence, the current post.
" Saturday, May 19, 2018
There was no spying, there was no spying, there was no spying, there was no spying...
Okay, there was spying, but we had good reason. Okay, we had reason. Sort of."
Defending Trump against all charges is not a valid argument.
What charges?
As far as I know Trump hasn't been charged with anything.
The fact of the matter is that for all the bluster and all the yapping, there isn't a single shred of evidence that Donald Trump did anything either illegal or even improper as it pertains to the Russians.
Yet, here we are... two years into an investigation that has yet to uncover a single piece of evidence that backs the so called "collusion" that your former DOJ/FBI leadership decided was important enough to open up an investigation, use FISA warrants to tap and eavesdrop, use FBI informants to spy, and appoint a special counsel.
It's not a "defense" to simply provide the facts as they exist, Rog...
You're assuming that the Muller investigation has nothing on the President. The final report will show that who's the idiot. But you have already come to the conclusion that the FBI/DOJ report was politically motivated and therefore cannot be believed.
Maybe this momentum will be a pleasant surprise for some and abject panic for R's!!!!!!!
May 20, 2018
WASHINGTON — The pace of new voter registrations among young people in crucial states is accelerating, a signal that school shootings this year — and the anger and political organizing in their wake — may prove to be more than ephemeral displays of activism.
They could even help shape the outcome of the midterm elections. If voters in their teens and 20s vote in greater numbers than usual, as many promised during nationwide marches for gun control this spring, the groundswell could affect close races in key states like Arizona and Florida, where there will be competitive races for governor, the Senate and a number of House districts in November.
The deadly shooting on Friday at Santa Fe High School in Texas will probably add urgency to the efforts. Hours after the carnage, young organizers mobilized by the February mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., were vowing a political response.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/20/us/politics/young-voters-registration-parkland.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&hp&login=email&auth=login-email
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
It seems the students and parents at Santa Fe High School are having none of the anti-gun circus that the Parkland students fell into after their tragedy.
It's to their credit they maintain their dignity and restraint in this terrible incident.
You're assuming that the Muller investigation has nothing on the President.
That's a pretty good assumption since nothing has come out of the leaky boat that is the special counsel office.
The final report will show that who's the idiot.
If will be long on politics and short on illegality. You're going to hear the word "improper" a lot but not the word "illegal".
Roger AmickMay 19, 2018 at 12:55 PM
“A woman who was shot & killed today at Santa Fe High School had just gone back to work because her husband was diagnosed with terminal cancer. How tragically American. She has to go back to work to pay for healthcare no one can afford & she gets shot doing so”. ~ Melinda Carroll
Go her name ole Rog?
"Cynthia Tisdale
Cynthia Tisdale was teaching the art class when she was shot and killed, according to Facebook posts by her brother-in-law.
"We are all heartbroken," John Tisdale said in the post.
He asked for continued prayers for Cynthia's husband and children.
Cynthia and her husband had been married for 47 years.
She was a mother of four and member of Anchor Bible Baptist Church in Pharr, Texas, according to Tisdale's posts. She had planned on retiring to spend time with her grandchildren.
In addition to working at Santa Fe High School, Cynthia had recently taken on a second job as a server to help financially after her husband was diagnosed with a terminal lung disease, her brother-in-law wrote on Facebook."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/624197002
So now mueller is looking into some israeli entrepreneur. Funny how incurious he is about the hundreds of millions of dollars the clinton foundation took in.
Ty Ette.
“We never know when our death will come,” Tisdale also wrote on Facebook. “Cynthia planned on one day retiring and being a full-time grandmother. It will never happen."
"Halper was not a spy but an informant."
The New York Times is becoming the laughingstock of journalism.
The final report will show that who's the idiot.
in DC that would be mueller. around here the idiot would be you, alky.
The deadly shooting on Friday at Santa Fe High School in Texas will probably add urgency to the efforts. Hours after the carnage, young organizers mobilized by the February mass shooting in Parkland, Fla., were vowing a political response.
be proud liberals. you've instructed children on how to politicize a tragedy.
Funny how incurious he is about the hundreds of millions of dollars the clinton foundation took in.
Especially since no small part of it came from Russia with love.
you've instructed children on how to politicize a tragedy.
Those children's votes count as much as yours.....Are you against voting????/
HB and a fact have never met.
The New York Times is becoming the laughingstock of journalism.
becoming???
"Those children's votes count as much as yours.....Are you against voting????/"
How was Paris, commie?
"becoming???"
LOL. Exactly.
You're assuming that the Muller investigation has nothing on the President. The final report will show that who's the idiot. But you have already come to the conclusion that the FBI/DOJ report was politically motivated and therefore cannot be believed.
There have been two official reports on the subject already. The House and Senate intelligence committee reports. Neither found any evidence of wrongdoing by the President, or any evidence of collusion.
But of course, you likely believe that those reports are politically motivated and therefore cannot be believed??
Bottom line Rog...
I will look at the "facts" from any report that comes out (assuming one does come out) and judge the situation based entirely on those "facts". If there are no new facts, then my judgement is set. If there are new facts that have been previously undisclosed, then I will assess those prudently to make my new judgement about the situation.
Meanwhile.. I will pretty much discount any "opinions" that Mueller might have.
Stephanie Kelton Has The Biggest Idea In Washington
Once an outsider, her radical economic thinking won over Wall Street. Now she's changing the Democratic
HUFFPOST
For most of her career, Stephanie Kelton was accustomed to being ridiculed. It started in grad school.
At Cambridge University in the late 1990s, she signed up for an economics course taught by Willem Buiter, who later became the chief economist at Citigroup. When she asked a question about money in a particular model, he turned, red-faced with fury, and unloaded on her. “If you are the type of person who thinks money is important,” she recalls him saying, “then you are probably the same type of person who enjoys sitting in your basement and beating yourself with a rubber hose.”
The words obviously left an impression. Kelton ― who is now 48 and has been teaching economics herself for more than 16 years ― repeats them, twice, to make sure they’re transcribed correctly. Buiter didn’t respond to a request for comment.
She’s been receiving (slightly) more polite versions of the same dressing down ever since. Conservatives have accused her of worshipping a “magic money tree,” and Paul Krugman dismissed her ideas in a 2011 New York Times column as a naive blueprint for hyperinflation that carried “a sort of eerie resemblance to John Galt’s speech in Atlas Shrugged” ― a ruthless insult among her left-leaning friends.
Kelton’s core idea ― that the government can’t run out of money or go bankrupt, no matter how much it spends "
I think Argentina has disproved that theory.
Kelton’s core idea ― that the government can’t run out of money or go bankrupt, no matter how much it spends "
The Times published a bombshell report on Saturday saying that the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., had met with George Nader, an emissary for the crown princes of the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, during the 2016 campaign.
Nader reportedly told Trump Jr. that the crown
princes were willing to help Trump win the election. The Times's report is the first indication that a country other than Russia sought to influence the 2016 election.
An Israeli political strategist named Joel Zamel also reportedly attended the meeting. His company created a plan to manipulate social media in an effort to help elect Trump, according to the Times.
A lawyer for Trump Jr. told the Times in a statement that "prior to the 2016 election, Donald Trump Jr. recalls a meeting with Erik Prince, George Nader and another individual who may be Joel Zamel. They pitched Mr. Trump Jr. on a social media platform or marketing strategy. He was not interested and that was the end of it."
This week marked the one-year anniversary of Mueller's appointment as special counsel. Trump has repeatedly attacked the investigation as a "witch hunt" and claimed that the probe is biased against him.
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Any objective consideration of such things would soon inevitably develop biases against him.
Mnuchin Says Trade War Is ‘On Hold’
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said that the United States and China are stepping back from a possible trade war after two days of talks that produced “meaningful progress,” the Washington Post reports.
“Despite not getting China to agree to trim its overall trade surplus with America by a specific amount, Mnuchin said the U.S. team did get a number of commitments on a framework for reducing the deficit over time, including big increases in purchases of farm products and a doubling of purchases of U.S. energy products.”
Said Mnuchin: “We are putting the trade war on hold.”
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Campaigning and yelling are easy. Governing is not.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile and admits it.
good times...
Obama State Dept: $350K For Campaign Infrastructure Used Against Netanyahu In Israel Election
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/state-dept-350k-group-built-campaign-structure-used-against-election-israels
back when interfering in another country's election was cool.
"back when interfering in another country's election was cool."
No bigger POS than the two-bit community organizer.
Mueller Probe Expands to Israeli Entrepreneur
“Special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe is looking more closely into Middle Eastern involvement during Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, as it is now exploring the role of an Israeli entrepreneur with ties to a Gulf monarchy,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
“Mueller has been conducting interviews about the work of Joel Zamel, an Australia-born Israeli businessman with experience in social media and intelligence gathering… Mr. Zamel met with Donald Trump Jr. , Mr. Trump’s eldest son, at Trump Tower in the months before the 2016 election along with George Nader, a top adviser to the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates, to discuss an offer to help boost the campaign. Erik Prince, a U.S. defense contractor who specializes in the Middle East and had close ties to the campaign, also attended the meeting, which was first reported by the New York Times on Saturday.
“Following Mr. Trump’s election, Mr. Nader made a payment to Mr. Zamel of $2 million, which a person familiar with the payment described as unrelated to the campaign.”
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Believe that? Then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Believe that? Then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
...where I come from, only guilty people trot out the I-was-stung defense...
How many times have we heard from the president and his defenders that the Mueller investigation is “a witch hunt,” that “there’s nothing there” and it’s time to shut it down? As the inquiry enters its second year, Trump’s forces now appear to be falling back to a new trench.
Whatever Team Trump did wrong, the FBI tricked them into doing it.
As I’ve said before, I intend to wait until Mueller presents his findings before I draw conclusions about what has gone on. So far, what I know with confidence centers on a few key points:
Russia hacked the election, which is a problem whether or not the outcome was affected.
Candidate Trump was more connected to Putin’s circle during the campaign than he acknowledged.
If his son Donald Trump Jr. didn’t collude with Russia, he certainly wanted to.
And Donald Trump’s desire to shut down “this Russia thing” led to his ham-handed firing of FBI Director James B. Comey, which in turn gave us the Mueller probe.
No deep-state conspiracy, just Trump’s own blundering, according to sometime adviser and confidant Stephen K. Bannon.
It has been said many times: For a man protesting his innocence, Trump sure does act guilty. And that, more than anything, creates the air of mystery shrouding this topic.
But at least we now know what he’s likely to say if and when we learn what he is hiding.
"Feds set me up."
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And if you believe that, the bridge is still up for sale.
James Boswell of Normal, Illinois is a pedophile.
Obama Legacy:
Most Corrupt President Ever
Every day liberals are a day closer to that inevitable conclusion.
And it shows.
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